2024 Kawasaki Eliminator vs Vulcan S: Ultimate In-Depth Comparison!

[@ursirius4878]

I owned and rode a lot of bikes in my younger days but when I wanted to get back into riding I just wanted something that was fun to ride and had a little spirit. The Vulcan S 650 checked all the boxes. Got one in 17' new and it's been an awesome bike. I'm 60 now and I'll probably ride it til it dies, or I do. Happy trails.

[@sinanyasin6350]

Wish you long life and good days 🌹

[@hoodriplifestyle3633]

@@sinanyasin6350 you rock brother 🤙🏾

[@ludeman]

Hell yeah, I like both but the Vulcan get my vote as well

[@alphaimad2966]

Ride safe, brother

[@fricekuo]

thank god, this is probably the most detail eliminator video i've seen these days !

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for watching!

[@astro0125]

Just bought my first bike, Vulcan S abs, really excited

[@PeterLoweOne]

Great first bike! Enjoy it!

[@-MakeItGood-]

See you out there 🫡

[@whollymindless]

Stay safe.

[@metaldreams3595]

so how has it been?

[@astro0125]

@@metaldreams3595 love it so far

[@michellemifflin9296]

I've been on my 2015 Vulcan S since 2017 (bought it used with 845 km). After pretty much rebuilding it after the original owner seriously messed it up, I've been able to truly make this bike mine. It has more than enough power for me (I'm 5'1" with a 27" inseam) and my 6' tall, much bigger husband still is able to have his own fun with it. He loves how he's able to throw it around, unlike his Vaquero and the smile on his face after he borrows my bike is more than worth my letting him take off for a half hour or so. My smaller bike also has no trouble keeping up with his much larger one on our Alberta highways and I honestly feel like I'm at an advantage once we head into the Rockies as my bike takes to the curves so much better. I 💯 recommend the Vulcan S for all types of riders.

[@raymond1181]

I went and sat on the Eliminator , it is so tiny. Loved it being old, but man sitting on that S, yep my creeky bones needs my legs pushed out . Can't go wrong with the Elim, but the power and leg position of the S fit me best. 5'11" 210 lbs. Bad right knee. Picking it up Wednesday. So excited.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm the same height as you and a little lighter. I love the Eliminator position best, but I think it's just because I'm used to bikes with that type of seating position. Enjoy your Vulcan S! Great bike! Thanks for watching!

[@weylins]

Went with the Eliminator myself, even at 6'1" I find it very comfortable. And the mid controls mean I can post instead of taking every bump on the tailbone like the forward controls on the Vulcan.

[@FitFamTonyBest]

OMG! You've pretty much descibed me. 53, 5' 10" and 210lbs with a dodgy right knee 😂. Also looking at the Vulcan S. Seating position looks to suit the broken old man frame nicely.

[@AugustineIkebudu-u7k]

Kawasaki Vulcan 650s all the way 🙌🏻 Any day any time!!!!

[@PeterLoweOne]

Haha! I can't argue. I like both the bikes. I think I would lean towards the Eliminator because I really feel at home with that riding position.

[@jaybruno4313]

I'm just gonna have to sit on them both! I can't decide

[@primestarprimetime]

I just bought one lol

[@joecain1010]

I have not rode in 20+ years. Just bought the Eliminator 3 days ago. Being a bit rusty, It is very forgiving for me. This bike looks great and is a lot of fun.

[@leeinwis]

What color ?

[@joecain1010]

@@leeinwis orange

[@teej1987]

The slipper and assist clutch is great

[@Matthewsmith-2024]

I got the eliminator a few months ago. It was my first road bike, and I found it incredibly fast and powerful. I also really enjoy how light and flickable it is on the turns. After riding this on and off the highway for a while, it seems silly to me that anyone would "need" a 1000cc+ unless they're going to the tack a lot.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Totally agree. People are going to be really surprised at what this bike can do! Thanks for sharing!

[@bikerbeliever8169]

thats what most riders find. Alot of riders that ride 1000cc plus bikes after awhile come back to middleweight 400 to 700cc machines and find them to be more enjoyable for the majority of people. Plenty of pep, but not so over the top that you can stay in control on normal roads and streets.

[@bnolsen]

I think 750 to 800 is the right range for a 2 up highway use that can still scale down to daily riding. 650 for single rider.

[@LuciferMorningstar-wk8qu]

Eliminator is a good entry level bike for a handicapped woman.

[@POVwithRC]

​@@rickwithckit's not that deep. Some people just like having more power.

[@charlesbrown1444]

Bought a Vulcan S ABS for my first bike before seeing this. I knew I wanting something more cruiser style, main trips are to work and back down with a 55mph speed limit. Amazing comfortable to relax on the ride back and forth without feeling I have to go fast.

[@jbcoker]

I'm 58 years old and have owned many bikes of all styles and brands. Bought the Vulcan S 5 years ago and haven't looked back.

[@enricohagn]

*THANKS* for your highly appreciated comparison VDO, mate 🙏 Based on your detailed work I ordered today the Vulcan for my Ol'Lady.

[@allenking6172]

I'm 5'4 with about 29" inseam. I sat on both bikes. The Eliminator that I cannot bent my knees. I feel comfortable on my new Vulcan S which I reduced the foot controls, pull back the handlebar a little bit which not touching the gas tank and put the medium reach seat. Now I love my Vulcan S.

[@joeythegoof5410]

im 5'3 and got my license but no bike. im debating between the indian scout bobber and the vulcan s

[@jaredmarsh4002]

​@joeythegoof5410 get the scout for the power, or get the vulcan for the comfort because the scout lacks.

[@martinmendoza1761]

@@joeythegoof5410al final cuál compraste? Yo estoy decidiendo entre esas 2 precisamente. Saludos desde México

[@BlazinBlades]

Thank you Sir Many KZbinrs miss a lot of information and many times give incorrect information 😩 You do your research and it shows! To know that the Vulcan S did not have a gear indicator for the first couple of years (which was about 10 years ago) shows you are a pro! Wonderfull walkthrough and insightful and useful information 🍻🍻

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for your support!

[@whollymindless]

I bought a vulcan s last year over a Rebel 500 to get a more highway capable bike for my mass. Buy once, cry once. One thing to note is that you can't stand on the pegs on rough roads on the vulcan. You ARE going to take it on your seat. Hint,squeeze the tank with your knees to spread the shock.

[@dendanskeguru]

Absolute amazing video and comparison, thank you! I'm in love with the new Eliminator

[@evelyndanforth8346]

I bought my vulcan a few years ago, and I love it. This is an excellent description of the motorcycle, and it's nice to see some vulcan love :) I completely agree on riding the country roads. I'm in Moncton, and it's perfect for all the rural NB roads. I will say though I'd like to eventually get an led headlight and corbin seat, aaaannnnddd maybe a power commander to play with the power settings (I find 1st gear very very touchy) but to me this is a bike worth investing in and keeping long term. It fits my daily commute ride well, is nimble enough for city riding, and is powerful enough to be fun. Whatever your feelings on the matter, I will note that it's also a fairly quiet bike, which I'm sure my neighbours appreciate.

[@BlackArroToons]

Great comparison, thanks! Both really cool looking motorcycles and colors from Kawasaki.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for watching. Yeah, I really like both colours. Jim Gilbert's Wheels and Deals also has both of these bikes in black, but I like to show different colours when I can.

[@simonscheibel2063]

Thanks a lot for this video! Really appreciate it. I'm currently doing my motorcycle license and i am looking for my first bike so i'm totally on the Eliminator side! It just seems to be a really good bike to start driving with! Cheers all the way from germany. Simon

[@helmutscholz5284]

Excellent comparison video! I'm 5'-6" and, though I prefer the look of the Vulcan, I'm guessing the Eliminator will be a better first bike for me. I'll have to compare at the dealership. Something that stands out to me which has not been discussed is that despite having a slightly smaller tank, with much better fuel efficiency the range on a tank of gas appears to be almost 100 miles more on the Eliminator. From what I see online, the Vulcan can only go about 150 miles on a full tank, while the Eliminator should go about 250 miles. This seems like a big advantage in quality of life.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I haven't done a range test on either of these, so I can't speak about that. I do expect the Eliminator to be capable of fantastic mileage though. That's an interesting point that I'll have to look into. I owned a Versys 650 for years, and I know that the style of riding could really make a difference on fuel efficiency of that engine, but yeah, you raise an interesting point.

[@Mookie21378]

We just bought my daughter Kawasaki Vulcan 650 s...exact same color in your video...she loves it...👍🏼

[@mylifeinthailand8751]

Superb review again

[@DevopsumGeldi]

i used both of them yesterday and definitely saying eliminator easy to use and smooth shifting

[@genegoodwin8925]

I like them both and can't make up my mind which one to buy. I like the looks of the Vulcan S engine because of the silver highlights. I like the 650cc because of more torque. But the Vulcan S is dated whereas the Eliminator is ALL NEW. I'm 70 years old and have been riding since 1964. I just sold my LAST Harley which I paid $37000 for, It broke down four times within the first year of ownership, NEVER AGAIN WILL I OWN A HARLEY. I sold it for $28000 one year later. I could buy either of these Kawasaki's with the money I lost on one Halrey. I'm going to stop by a Kawasaki dealer this coming Friday who has some Eliminators in stock. I've sat on a Vulcan S and it was very comfortable. I can't wait to check out the Elmiinator. I like the looks of the Eliminator a lot, but I worry about the passeneger seat and foot position. If I but an Eliminator I will add a flyscreen, a luggage rack, and a round leather bag for the rack. On the Vulcan S I'd have to add a passenger seat, and passenger foor pegs along with a small windshield, passenger backrest. I think I'm going with the Eliminator. We'll see this Friday.

[@tdog5017]

I am going to try out both bikes and see which suits me best. I don't need more speed as much as more nimble and lighter weight for hauling on a bumper carrier. So I can take it camping with me. I am downsizing from a 1500 cc cruiser. I have sometimes missed my Suzuki Madura 700 which was the V4 like the Honda Magna.

[@martinmendoza1761]

Y cuál fue su compra final? Y ahora qué recomendaciones tiene al respecto?

[@carolyntumpalan308]

Thanks for this video. We're watching all sorts of motorcycle review before we get one. We gotta be careful, especially driving around Manila Philippines.

[@garyrohlman6013]

This guy does a great video . Gets right down to the nitty grit.

[@PeterLoweOne]

Thanks for watching!

[@fallenphantomxx]

Yes, This is the video i have been waiting for.

[@elbertho4508]

thanks peter as always for the very informative comparison!

[@nightwingvyse]

I'm a happy Vulcan S owner, it's by far the best bike I've ever had in about 18 years of riding. It's also the first cruiser I've ever had and now I'll never go back. I'm glad I got the Vulcan instead of waiting for an Eliminator, and not just because of the power difference. I expect Kawasaki has fixed a lot of the issues that the Vulcan has in regards to the seat comfort, spongy rear brake etc, but there are quite a few aspects of the Eliminator that I'm really not fond of, mainly the non-cruiser style sitting triangle (which in my opinion disqualifies it as a cruiser in the first place) but also a lot of the aesthetics such as the fork gaiters, the positioning of the ENORMOUS muffler, and especially the downpipes which look like they've been in an accident.

[@alaskankare]

living in coastal alaska, distance on a tank and ability to climb steep mountain passes is a must. sounds like vulcan beats out on both maybe? it has a bigger tank size right?

[@-0-__-0-]

I love how the both bikes sounds like the usual classic twin when driving it on low rpms then screams once you pull on those rpms.

[@petersobotta8184]

I have a 2018 vulcan s, probably my favorite bike I've owned so far and super easy to modify

[@DanielRRomani]

It's gonna be the Vulcan for me. Thank you for helping me make the choice! The funny thing is that I came here to learn about the Eliminator, because I couldn't decide between that and the Hona Rebel CX 500! But you've flipped me to the Vulcan 😂

[@Justhavingfun-cc4qz]

Out of those 2 which would be best beginner bike

[@WanieB]

I wish the Eliminator had the option of a bigger motor but absolutely love the frame and how it sets.

[@olegyefremov2583]

Fantastic review/comparison. Really like your Chanel. I'm team vulcan. Bought one myself last year 23' model with abs in that color as my first bike

[@PeterLoweOne]

Nice! Thanks for watching and supporting what I do! Enjoy your Vulcan S! Great bike!

[@TwitchRadio]

I've been comparing 3 that I really like.. The vulcan 650, the Honda rebel 500 and my favorite (but expensive) the Indian scout sixty... But the last one is probably much later down the road for me... But I like the vulcan Alittle bit more because of the price and that more relaxed seating position, as a disabled Veteran, it's hard for me to be in the more sporty position.. Anyways, just window shopping for now, maybe next year I'll be able to safe enough to get one of these... But was curious on your thoughts about this compared to the rebel.. 😎✌️

[@ValwithaVee]

Dear God, please allow me the means to afford a Kawasaki Eliminator 450 in 2025/2026. I promise I will ride safely, happily, and take my wife with me whenever possible.

[@user-dh3qc3pq3g]

I’m borrowing your prayer…🙏🏾🙄😂

[@forrestnome9521]

Get a Vulcan. The eliminators are slow and you'll get bored after a month.

[@forrestnome9521]

My top speed on my 2021 Vulcan is 122 MPH in NJ at or very near to sea level.

[@ValwithaVee]

@@forrestnome9521 I like to ride slow and take in the sights

[@ValwithaVee]

@@forrestnome9521 whoa,I think that's a little too fast especially if I have my wife with me

[@mithrandirthegrey7644]

Going for the Vulcan just because I want the cruiser curb appeal.

[@tattoopunk75]

I really wish they made the Eliminator in a 900 or at least a 650

[@PeterLoweOne]

If this sells well, maybe they'll expand the line!

[@brandonrudicell4064]

I so miss my 1985 Eliminator.

[@johnd9031]

A must for me is a comfortable seat and driver backrest. Also heard the Vulcan S engine is quirky and some mod is needed.

[@PeterLoweOne]

There's no mod "needed" on that engine at all. Lots of people have opinions about preferences, but suggesting the engine is quirky and in "need" of a mod would be a big stretch in my opinion. I've owned that engine on one of my bikes for years. It's very good.

[@bnolsen]

Word is the Vulcan s runs too lean stock and should have an EFI flash to fix up the fuel settings at low rpm/idle. The fun of govt regulations.

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@bnolsen it doesn't run "too lean" it runs more lean than some would like. Most riders find no issues with this engine in stock form. That doesn't mean you can't tweak it, but we have a lot of new riders that read these comments, and the way we talk about things can create false narratives.

[@jihigh482]

I'm sure you "heard" that in KZbin comments the same way someone else gonna "hear" your nonsense

[@FairladyS130]

Suspension travel is important if not all your roads are smooth, I understand that the Vulcan is a bit challenged that way which has sort of put me off it. Engine vibration is also relevant to some, it can be a comfort thing.

[@gilneral]

Suspension is the downside of the Vulcan S, sadly! But there are aftermarket suspension kits that promise to improve it a lot. Let's see.

[@sujithnr2004]

Great comparison video. Thank you so much !!

[@notyourpapa]

Great video.vLooking at the spec sheet of the Eliminator, it appears they are really competing with the rebel 500. It's very similar but a little cheaper. The eliminator and vulcan look great and beginner friendly, i can see why people would compare the two.

[@salskars6637]

Eliminator all day. -Power to weight ratio and the more standard position ftw. Owning a Ninja 400 I already know the engine and love it. This one adds a bit more displacement making it even better. The aesthetic design of the Eliminator won me over with the flatter and wider tank/fender. The exposed trellis frame is what drew me in initially (especially when it contrasts with the color scheme, so the storm grey is my choice. -base model and no ABS. For reference, I had a Honda 1000 naked for 6 yrs; Honda VFR 800 for 5 years... so I've learned what I want/desire in a ride/vibe. Great video (again).

[@jeniko2841]

With Kawasaki putting out the Eliminator and Honda with their SCL500, it's really hard to pick which one I like more. I gave up trying to get a Vulcan S because everyone keeps it and wont sell it lol

[@jaythemusicman801]

Strongly considering an eliminator

[@ScaRlaK319]

they combined the old Vulcan 500 and the eliminator 125, with the concept of the great selling Vulcan s. and made a wonderful new motorcycle.

[@Dave-sw2dm]

Noticing the Z650RS in the corner. If I would have seen that color in person in my location I would have probably bought it. Only saw the secondary color that didn't do anything for me.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I find a lot of these colours REALLY jump out in person. It shows the importance of dealers stocking these bikes. Jim Gilbert's Wheels and Deals really gets it. They have a huge inventory for people to see everything.

[@FluffyVM]

ngl it all sounds like the Eliminator would be best for me, but man that Vulcan looks awesome.

[@PeterLoweOne]

That's sometimes what I think. I love the Eliminator, but the Vulcan S is so great as well!

[@4Saturday]

I traded my Harley Heritage classic for the Vulcan I love the lighter bike. The only thing I miss is the rumble.

[@SkintSNIPER262]

I love the look of the Eliminator, but being 6'3" I think the Vulcan would be a better fit for my first bike.

[@Matthewsmith-2024]

I'm 6'3". I have an eliminator, and it fits just fine. You should try sitting only one. You'd be surprised how comfortable it is.

[@SkintSNIPER262]

@@Matthewsmith-2024 thanks for the input. Yeah theres a dealer near me with both the eliminator and vulcan. Will definitley try them both out.

[@dynasty2295]

I'm 6'3 with shoes and around 200. Good to know they fit our size well.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I would try the bike out. I'm guessing when it comes to who might be too tall or too big for one bike over the other. You may find that you're completely happy with the Eliminator.

[@kevinphillips2411]

I've been driving a Vulcan S for 5 years and I absolutely love it. I do think the new Eliminator is really good looking and I love the new tech, but at 6'5", the Vulcan S is already small for me. No way I'd fit on the new Eliminator comfortably. I prefer the forward controls on the Vulcan S as well. However, with the Vulcan S being identical in just about every way for 9 solid year models.. I do hope we see a redesign soon. Honestly still an incredibly attractive bike, but a digital dash and full LED lighting would be a great start. I'd love to see a rear fender and tail light configuration more similar to this new Eliminator as well.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I wonder if the Eliminator existing will move the Vulcan S up the line for a refresh. I think people really like the Vulcan S, but I agree with you, a few minor tweaks could really bring it up to date for a few more years.

[@libertyprime9891]

The eliminator is about the same price as an RE Super Meteor 650 in my region, neither are really affordable as a starter since i still have the Vulcan 900 as a target. Did that one get any updates for this year?

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm not expecting any updates for the Vulcan 900 this year, but to be honest, I haven't looked into the specs yet.

[@paulstanley3265]

In the USA it is the same. I would like to see a Vulcan s update to a se with the ninja se engine and tech.

[@jgrisoni1]

I was lucky enough to hop on a family members Eliminator 500. Wow what a blast to ride and super comfortable riding stance/position. Needless to say, i just need to decide Black, grey or orange?

[@paulstanley3265]

Another good video thanks

[@chaos_mom88]

I am wanting to upgrade from a 2023 Honda Rebel 300 and thinking about one of these. I'm relatively new with one season under my belt. 5ft8in. Thoughts? FYI I am most attracted to the cruiser style, I was born and raised around Harley.

[@PeterLoweOne]

These are both great upgrades from what you're riding in my opinion. The Eliminator is a similar class to your Rebel 300 but it's a much higher performer. The Vulcan S is the next step up and may be exactly what you're looking for. Keep in mind when you sit in the Vulcan that it has a system of adjustments (and seat options) that can make it fit anyone much shorter than you, to much taller than you, so if it doesn't feel great right off the top, ask about the Ergo Fit adjustments to learn more about adjusting it to fit you perfectly.

[@ThBacelar]

I can't wait the Spring to get a Vulcan S 🤩 the thing is that I'm a new rider and dealerships around me don't have the ABS version 😩

[@PeterLoweOne]

In Canada, for 2024, it looks like ABS is now standard equipment.

[@Wasabi-one]

Wait for the ABS. Definitely good option

[@paulstanley3265]

Abs should be standard on all bikes at this time.

[@frontdeskstaff9359]

I have a Vulcan S that I bought used. No abs, my only regret. It's my first bike and I have no intension of getting rid of it anytime soon. Easy enough to learn on, but I can easily cruise at 90+ mph all day. I personally would factor in the cost of whatever mods you want to get it to your personal taste. I've done the same and really happy with it.

[@ThBacelar]

Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm living in US. The black model is non abs and the pearl sand is abs, I would like a black one but safety over style, right? 🤷‍♂️

[@AkioKenji]

Which one is better for 2 up riding (80% of the time)?

[@Garraz98]

Does the black Vulcan S come with ABS? Or would I have to go with the Cafe version to avoid the khaki?

[@raybrensike42]

I was looking at the specs of both the Z 900 RS and the 650 cc Vulcan S. The Z is 20 lbs lighter. Why? Wouldn't it be nice to have the 900 motor in the Vulcan S frame?

[@boogieboogiebo]

I bought a 2024 Vulcan Cafe w ABS. Best bike

[@susanl3136]

Great video!

[@1SaG]

Re top speed on the Eliminator: I found a video from a German YTer who took his up to 180 kph on the Autobahn. Not that it should really matter on a bike like this... :) I'm also not sure about any of these "modern retro" cruisers. They're very far from that old school look I like about both Harleys and metric cruisers and just seem like slightly altered street bikes with slightly re-tuned (and not very pretty looking) street- or sport-bike engines in them. Plus a lot of them will only give you very un-cruiser-like inline-two engines - kinda like on the early metric cruisers of the bad old days like the OG Eliminator, the EN500 or the OG Honda Rebels. And if you're not getting that cruiser look, why not simply opt for a naked or a touring bike? Both of which will probably be the more capable, agile and comfortable bikes because they don't have to adhere to things like "ultra low seat height" or "feet forward in the wind".

[@gdvadventours5512]

I think the Eliminator is the better bike overall besides that vulcan 650 looks odd for a cruiser might be that headlight.I wish they bring back those buckhorn handle bars im pretty sure it will look fantastic on the Eliminator

[@Dave-sw2dm]

I wish they would bring back a modern version, but keep the look of the original Vulcan 750.

[@chrispekel5709]

I've seen a lot of people replace the headlight, or put a cafe racer cowl over it. Looks a like nicer then. The shape of it is just a touch feminine, which might have been done on purpose given many women want cruisers due the height

[@yogames6199]

I booked the vulcan s 2024 the same colour and i love it in sk and they said it will come in april most likey i cant wait...

[@PeterLoweOne]

Awesome! You're going to love it!

[@lowdragsolutions2237]

I am so confused. I have owned an 86 Zl600 eliminator and 900 and still own a ZL1000. I love the eliminators and couldn't wait for the new one to come out. I just don't know if i want a 450? I hope they bring it on up to a 900 at least soon.

[@warrenwarburtonesq.6884]

I also had a 1986 ZL600 Eliminator, and absolutely loved it. The only reason I got rid of it was that I stepped up to a 2003 Mean Streak which was also a great bike. Two great bikes with two different personalities.

[@ericmok7617]

trying to make a decision between the vulcan s, eliminator and cmx500, complete new rider looking for a fun bike for commuting and sometimes long trips(200-300km), haven't riden any of the bikes, looking for some advice thanks

[@PeterLoweOne]

I haven't had the chance to review the Honda yet, the Vulcan has been around a while and has been my go-to recommendation for a sporty cruiser that works well for beginners to experienced riders. Having said that, I think a lot of people are sleeping on the Eliminator. It's excellent! I have no reservations about recommending that bike. I really think it's very good and I prefer the seating position of that bike

[@mohsinnasir7453]

Hey, Im getting my motorbike lisense but I need a bike to learn on and keep as my daily in the summer. I'm 6 foot 4 inches and weigh about 300 lbs. I'm 20 year old guy, but I'm not looking for something to speed on. I'm just looking for a comfortable bike without exseccive power. Please recommend me a bike. I live in Canada Bc. I'm thinking of getting a new bike only Thanks. Forgot to mention, I love the look of harley and the honda Rebel 300. I had a seat on the rebel 500,1100 and the Vulcan s and the 900. All were a little too small. The vulcan 900 was good, but I need something a little bigger. I'm not sure what else to look at. I'm buying new only, used market has screwed me over too many times before. Budget is around 10 to 12k Cad. Any other recommendations?

[@wolfgarward9285]

There's also new MBP C1002V which is pretty much larger Vulcan S with litre V-twin. No idea when that might be availible in Canada tho, it's new. Or get control extensions, I know there are sets availible for Vulcan S and both bigger rebels though Rebels are pretty small in general. I've been riding Vulcan S for 4 years now and only added highway bars on it to stretch my legs on longer trips and had saddle remade and its very comfortable.

[@danielkrivor9152]

Maybe try the indian scout, I’m 200LB 6’4” and with the extended pegs it’s a pretty good fit. I personally have the scout rouge which is 100 hp 72torque 1133cc and it’s great fun even as a starter bike

[@lionheart10801]

What’s the green bike to your right towards the beginning of the video?

[@AlexMasangkay]

Z650rs

[@PeterLoweOne]

Correct!

[@PeterLoweOne]

I just finished filming a review of a different color of that bike. The Z650 RS. It'll be up today.

[@herrtomas6729]

Yep, nice toys . Thanks for the review .peter.

[@TheExodusV]

Great explanations!

[@Doug-h2z]

Peter, a better comparison would be the Eliminator 450 vs the Rebel 500. I'd put the Vulcan S up against the Shadow 750 or Meteor 650.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I could do that, but I had these in the same showroom, and a lot of people do want to know the differences, so that's why I made this video.

[@yipcheekin6272]

I would still opt for Eliminator for the ease of riding and extra tech as a bonus. That said, its not avavilable in Singapore.

[@Dave-sw2dm]

They should have made the frame the same color as the accent paint on the Eliminator Special Edition. For me the Eliminator feels more like a standard motorcycle while the Vulcan S feels more like a cruiser.

[@PeterLoweOne]

It definitely has the feel of a standard motorcycle, but to me, it still looks like a cruiser.

[@Dave-sw2dm]

@@PeterLoweOne same as the Moto Guzzi V9 Bobber. Cruiser looking, but sits more like a standard.

[@Patito_23]

I'm debating between the 450 Eliminator and a z650rs. Will you be doing a comparison of both? I'm 5'2 and it will be my 1st motorcycle as a new rider. It will be my daily commuter for the bad roads in LA, CA

[@PeterLoweOne]

I just did a review of the 2024 Z650 compared to the 2024 Z650RS. I don't plan a comparison in the near future between the Eliminator and the Z650RS, but feel free to watch my latest Z650RS video here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnK0Xo1-edObq5o There are several other Z650 videos and Eliminator videos on this channel too.

[@gregcorbinbarrett]

Z650rs is a whole different animal than the eliminator gain speed loose comfort

[@sidneyjr1560]

Z650rs é mais confortável do que a Vulcan e Eliminator. Suspensão dela é macia e tem mais torque. Não sofrerá pancadas nas costas.

[@pknightrider]

Where is the RPM at around 60 MPH on both of these? Someone said eliminator is at 6,000 but haven’t confirmed.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I don't remember off hand, but keep in mind, comparing RPM between two different engines and two different sized engines is a little misleading. A transport truck runs at 1000 rpm and redlines at 3500. An economy car with a 1.5 litre engine runs at 3000 rpm. A 1000 cc motorcycle doesn't even bother to clearly show rpm until it's over 4000 rpm. Nobody would wish for a 1000cc bike to rev like the economy car or for a car to rev like a transport truck. If these bikes are designed to handle the revs, I wouldn't worry too much about the 500 to 1000 rpm difference that they might have at a different speed.

[@pknightrider]

@@PeterLoweOne Good points. I confirmed RPM is at 4,500 @ 60 MPH by the way. Wouldn't you agree wear and tear is still a factor if riding at 5,000 RPM let's say, for purposes of long trips vs more casual use of a bike? 80,000 miles at an average of 5,000 RPM vs a truly cruiser design at lower RPM has to matter as far as longevity. I'm not an expert yet, just thinking.

[@Vengent1]

I was 100% on getting a honda rebel 500 now it's a 3 way tie between all these 2 and the rebel

[@PeterLoweOne]

Haha! Whoops! 🤣

[@69sound81]

I think the Vulcan S is the perfect bike for someone who cant make up their mind between a standard/naked bike and a crusier bike. Also, I think it is the perfect replacement for someone who dreams of a big american crusier like a Harley or an Indian but can't afford to buy one of those and might be able to squeeze the Vulcan S into the budget they have for a bike. It is a perfect 1st bike if you are concious of what riding a bike implies and you are willink to grow into the bike (if not, please start on a small 250cc bike and progres into a bigger one as you become a better rider). I've taken the vulcan S for a spin before, I've ridden other bikes before (never owned one so far) and I'm absolutely certain about the vulcan being a good fit for my first bike. It has enough power to go anywhere, it has great ergo, it is light enough, it is low enough for a small guy and it is also inside my budget (barely). I wouldn't go smaller myself because in my country law requires a 600cc engine to use the highway, my needs require me to take highway, road and high speed avenues daily and I do need a bike capable of storage that doesn't look wrong with the bags. And I love crusiers, for me a crusier should be at least 600cc while a naked can be as little as 250 for me to be okay with it. Perfect bike behind the Indian Scout and the GOAT, Harley Davidson Breakout

[@True_Draconian]

Do you know what color the Vulcan 900 custom 2024 gonna be ?

[@PeterLoweOne]

I film in Canada, and the Canadian information can be found here. www.kawasaki.ca/en-ca/motorcycle/vulcan/classic-cruiser/vulcan-900

[@bgfthntr]

Can you remove the rear seat on the Eliminator?

[@PeterLoweOne]

I would think so... but to be fair, I haven't checked. My guess is that you can remove it to put in all kinds of accessories. There will probably be a few bolt holes like you see on the Vulcan in this video which are filled with fasteners. I'll have to look into that more.

[@raymond1181]

Which one for a guy with a bad knee that wears a brace?

[@pasmas3217]

i have decided on getting the vulcan s and it is just a matter of when i move place and get a garage to be able to also get the bike. the two important things for me about the bike are: the seat that almost everybody says is very uncomfortable so you have to change and the weight of the clutch lever, which this video got me a bit worried... it is very unfortunate that we dont have a kawasaki store here (country... not city) and there about 2 second hand up for sale total. gonna have to check it and see how it suits me somehow also i somehow found the dash of the eliminator hideous! and until now i hadn't particulalry like the vulcan s one, i was just neutral on it. now it looks even better in my eyes with the analog rev meter

[@PeterLoweOne]

I find the seat to be pretty comfortable, and the clutch lever shouldn't bother you. There are MANY bikes with much heavier levers, you'll be fine.

[@pasmas3217]

@@PeterLoweOne most reviews have said that sitting on it is i great. but travelling over 45-60 minutes and it becomes very uncofmortable... i plan to replace the summer car trips back home with this bike and that is close to a 4 hour trip, so seat will probably be an issue... How do you find the seat in long distance travelling? (lever wise i will just have to try to find out. only other big bike i have riden was a suzuki gladius with terrible clutch and clutch lever... it was the training course bike i did 20 hours on and i hated it XD)

[@alexkovachevich1694]

I saw this colour on the Vulcan and in my opinion it looks better than the black.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I agree. It won't be for everyone, but it's the colour that I would choose.

[@alexkovachevich1694]

After seeing both bikes at the Helsinki Bike show yesterday a few of the guys were wondering why the Eliminator has been resurected? Is the Vulcan S going to be phased out?@@PeterLoweOne

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@alexkovachevich1694 Check out the video. There are a lot of differences. This isn't a smaller version of a Vulcan but an entirely different type of cruiser.

[@alexkovachevich1694]

@@PeterLoweOne yes I saw your video but I feel the difference is too small to warrant both models to continue, hope I am wrong. The Vulcan series is the best cruiser line in the market, again in my opinion.

[@aliasgharayati2082]

Turn the bikes on to hear the exhaust sound

[@stephenccoleman]

Great video Peter! I weigh just over 200lbs. Am I okay on the eliminator?

[@Wasabi-one]

Get the Vulcan S. it’s adjustable ( look into it) and more power. I’m 165 lbs and I had one for 2 years. Great bike.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I would think up to 200 wouldn't be an issue on either one. 220 and above and I'd suggest staying with the 650. But that's just my opinion and I could very well be wrong in that opinion. I'm open to learn from others on this. I will say that too many people are writing off the 450 as not enough and in my experience, that would be a mistake. It's going to be a great bike for people with reasonable expectations when it comes to performance.

[@tiffinhappy9744]

I weigh 294 and my Eliminator runs great. Iwould suggest riding both. I like the foot position of the Eliminator better than the Vulcan.

[@stephenccoleman]

@@tiffinhappy9744Thanks! I found the writing position to be most comfortable on the eliminator and I think I'm going to go that way.

[@PeterLoweOne]

@@tiffinhappy9744 thanks for sharing! That's good information!

[@Anon40G]

Is the Vulcan good for daily riding?

[@PeterLoweOne]

Yeah. The Vulcan S is a GREAT daily rider!

[@Dave-sw2dm]

I disagree that having the offset shock affects handling. What it does do is require more money spent on the swingarm rigidity. Moving to the center is a money saving exercise. The dual shocks also mean the ability to use a cheaper swingarm. Thinks about high end bikes that use single sided swingarms.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I probably could have explained that better. I see your point. Simply, and in an incomplete way, the point that I tried to make is that the central location of the updated chassis on bikes like the Ninja 650 did improve mass centralization, (likely weight) and contributes to better handling on THAT chassis. Not saying that handling CAN'T happen on a design that is like this, but the Versys and Vulcan don't have the latest and greatest from the 650 chassis, and to those riders, it probably makes no difference.

[@alexsalapan6329]

I prefered ELIMINATOR. They are 2 FLAWS on VULCAN that i dont really like. 1. The length, Height and Design of REAR FENDER. 2. The BIG BULKY SEAT. Hope KAWASAKI can fixed those flaws for the next one.

[@yufoh7753]

They need to make an Eliminator 1100 version for the European market, to compete with Honda. The styling is much nicer on the Kawasaki's. I'd buy one!

[@PeterLoweOne]

It will be interesting to see if they expand the Eliminator lineup. I would think they won't prioritize that immediately, but I can see if this one sells well, they'll have to think about that. The class that I'd like to see Kawasaki step into is the lightweight, to middle weight modern adventure bike category. I think Kawasaki could build a great bike in this class if they put their resources behind it.

[@Lactovacilo939]

i find it weird that the bikes look almost the same size. why not just use the vulcan frame then?

[@PeterLoweOne]

That's the thing. This may have similar dimensions, but it feels like, and IS a completely different bike. You couldn't have created this bike on the Vulcan frame.

[@Coachmeister]

How do these compare to a Honda rebel 500?

[@PeterLoweOne]

I haven't ridden a recent rebel, but in general, Kawasaki's 400 engine bikes have nearly identical horsepower to Honda 500 cc bikes, and they are usually lighter weight when in the same class. The Eliminator is a 450, not a 400, so I would think it has an edge. The Honda 500 engines are often a little lower revving as well. The Vulcan 650 engine is more enjoyable, and more powerful than the Honda 500, so both of these bikes would probably be my preference over the Honda for powertrain, but there is more to a motorcycle than just a powertrain, so it may be something that you have to take a closer look at with your preferences.

[@suesue5694]

The eliminator is way more comfortable than the rebel. Love the rebel but its seat isn't very good

[@ivanbalashov468]

Eliminator not yet available in Israel 😢

[@PeterLoweOne]

Another great reason to move to Canada! 🇨🇦

[@forrestnome9521]

My Vulcan gets up to 122 MPH in NJ at or sea level.

[@Wasabi-one]

Remember that new for 2024 ninja 500 and Z500 with the 451 engine is coming out.

[@paulstanley3265]

I’m excited for the ninja 7

[@leolin8010]

How Vulcan S is a v-twin?

[@PeterLoweOne]

It’s a parallel twin.

[@mihaimihai9254]

I think he was talking about bigger Vulcans.

[@Evirthewarrior]

My wife has a Vulcan 650s and I have a street glide special (114). I know these bikes are in different ball parks, having ridden hers a few times, while it has enough power, any crosswind at highway speeds really knocks you around because it is so light, it also feels like I am struggling to get the higher speeds to speed by an 18 wheeler that is knocking me around a bit. I have zero issues with any of that on my Street Glide. I know that people love to meme on Harleys because of the cost, but my street glide just rides better and feels nicer in the corners. The point is that, the Vulcan is every bit of its price point, it makes a ton of compromises to get there. I had a Fat Bob before the Street Glide, it rode better also, and handled just fine in the corners.

[@hakankillberg6043]

Vulcan looks so much better but i want it with midpegs like the Eliminator.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I prefer the Eliminator seating position as well.

[@eatutorials4669]

They assembled vulcans engine place neatly than eliminators

[@Shadownian]

Vulcan S no question. If i wanted to sit up and face in the handlebars id get a ninja type bike. But i dont find that comfortable at all. Im 5'6''' and I have sat on alot of bikes and nothing was anywhere near as comfortable as the vulcan. So I call bs on the vulcan being for taller or bigger guys.

[@PeterLoweOne]

I'm not saying the Vulcan is ONLY for bigger riders. Shorter riders have loved the Vulcan S for years. I do think that the Eliminator has a point where taller riders may find the Vulcan S more comfortable, but I've had some people tell me in the comments that they're tall and it isn't an issue for them.

[@jseth9925]

I sat on both last week and the vulcan s to me was infinitely more comfortable than the eliminator. I'm 5'10 and 275 lbs. It felt more relaxed to me. Softer ish seat, better handlebar and footpeg placement. Felt like a lower center of gravity. Again, just personal opinion here.

[@Justhavingfun-cc4qz]

I was just there