2024 Kia EV9 Early Review | Consumer Reports

[@chuckwalla2967]

These hands on review videos are a lot more useful than those round table discussions.

[@juanl7081]

Quick, no nonsense early review. Great work as always CR!

[@protovack]

just got an EV9 land trim, its extremely well built and drives fantastic. also, best headlights of any vehicle i've ever owned.

[@mattscinto]

We have this same trim level, minus the light seats. One of the best cars we've ever owned.

[@toronado455]

Great review! Good job of pointing out the good and bad.

[@brachiator1]

Good, short review. Interesting to know the weight comparison compared to a similar ICE vehicle.

[@plixie1]

I would love captains chairs in the wind trim

[@Mr-eGolf]

Background soundtrack is a bit distracting but I love the EV9

[@Shockiiie247]

The reality is KIA is a sturdy and solid car. It great car to drive the Urban City setting environment.

[@frankcoffey]

The heated seat thing on the door is not good. I use the passenger seat heater to keep carry out food warm on the way home and I can't reach the passenger door to turn it on. So does that means I have to get out of the car and go over there, open the door and turn it on?

[@N3kr0manc3r]

Hi, did you find the seats to be a bit stiff and maybe uncomfortable? My wife and I found that to be the case when we test drive it in our dealership. It was the wind trim. Don't know if the land or gt trim has better seats.

[@petegalindez9961]

Ok. With that hoodie you just moved ahead of Jennifer as my favorite CR car reviewer…

[@jlink8589]

LGR!! 🤩

[@user-zx8de8op9l]

I will keep my 2022 Telluride SX Prestige

[@life-pm5xl]

I could only afford the light base model with rwd for $45k.so, far im happy with it.

[@navinjha2975]

When will the full report be available on the consumer reports website? I'm really interested in this one.

[@LACTS-be7pr]

My 2024 ev9 with 800 miles has already two recalls. One for headliner and reserved battery. Mmmm

[@fatboy19831]

Home run for Kia. Even without the tax credit. All they need lithium ion phosphate batteries and the Tesla connector and it will be complete.

[@brokeboy87]

I like the exterior styling but the front row with the controls and button layout seems needlessly irritating.

[@davids1816]

I'm sure it drives great and is a really useful car around town. To be completely honest, I think that the sweet spot with range is 350 miles. Because you're going to charge it to 80% so the range in summer is more like 280 and in the winter it's about 200 (due to cold and using the heater. Even if this has a heat pump, it's still has a lot of interior to warm.) Furthermore, this thing is a brick. It's going to have a significant loss of range if one drives at over 70 mph. But it's a great first effort.

[@TotallyJoel]

350 miles?? Lol that would be one heavy vehicle. All we need is better infrastructure because it charges real fast. Quick charge, enough to where you need to go and thats it

[@d.pollard5962]

out of spec motors, Kyle got 284 miles in cold weather, check it out on their channel

[@mattscinto]

If you're driving more than 300 miles in a day then I wouldn't be driving a gas car anyway.

[@davids1816]

@@TotallyJoel So what you’ve basically said is the thing shouldn’t exist yet. I agree. I have a Tesla M3P and a Chevy Bolt that is my daily car. If I wanted to road trip the Bolt I would absolutely go insane. There is no solid, stable charge network unless you drive a Tesla. Because of that a car has to go there and back on a charge for the time being. If Kia hadn’t engineered this to flatter people who think Cyberpunk Range Rovers are what their image needs they could have added a lot of range by making the car sleeker. But they didn’t. And so it needs more range until/if Tesla are generous enough to make Kia EV’s viable.

[@davids1816]

@@d.pollard5962 Which is abusive to the battery and will speed up the decline in its function far faster. An EV should absolutely last 200k miles on its original battery, but if you go 100-0 or something similar all the time, you’re going to wonder why it can’t go far on a full charge after a few short years.

[@ASD-DAD]

The best 3 row EV out there. If only were $55K for this trim, it would sell like hot cakes, $65K still out of reach for most Americans.

[@Dive-Bar-Casanova]

Dealers are discounting already, shop around.

[@jstephens2758]

Do car manufacturers employ human factors or ergonomics engineers? Apparently not, because controls keep getting more difficult to use and less integrated into the dash. Hire an ex-SAAB engineer to design the controls.

[@Elegant-squirrel-home]

Lots of talk about switching to nacs but still no nacs ports on non teslas

[@TJPavey]

The actual port is pretty meaningless. Adapters will be cheap and maybe free. The important part is access to the supercharger network. That will happen over the year for most manufacturers. No manufacturer will put the port on before access to the network.

[@saintsubie6661]

They would’ve been better off cloning the Telluride and adding a frunk

[@YuriRetro]

Savage geese thumbnail?

[@asifzaffer809]

I clicked thinking this was savage geese

[@user-ck1zs5zk5b]

This vehicle is going to be a tremendous hit once it includes the Tesla NACS charge port. I would definitely buy one if I wasn't getting a Cybertruck. It's far more functional than a Model Y, though almost 2x the cost and much less efficient.

[@dallasd86]

Adapters are available now for $50. Why wait?

[@fredrmitchell]

All these BEV reviews, I keep thinking wait 5 years. Technology will get better

[@ChicagoBob123]

If only it was affordable. 65k ouch

[@andresmattos7541]

What's next u want all of this did 30k?

[@scottgabbard662]

Just buy it two years from now or just off lease. Then you can buy it twice when you replace the battery. 😂

[@blipblop92]

Definitely is in the luxury price range, cars are getting too expensive

[@christophcollier]

I’ll be happy to sit next to you on the bus. We can talk about how excited we were when we were 16 y/o to get our drivers license.

[@mfbikle]

No normal driver drives 70mph, 70 is the min in almost every state..

[@alanwilliams8531]

The music bed is horrible

[@S2kDude36]

Wow, $65k for the base model KIA, seems like a lot of money, and our local dealers are trying to get $10k over MSRP, so with tax you're in for $80k, who can afford that? From the review, the interior controls are terrible, even a Tesla is better laid out than the Kia who decided that letting the steering wheel block the screen is good ergonomics and those touch buttons on the dash would drive most people insane. Seems the only thing Kia got right was the flip up 2nd row seat.

[@DJL78]

Anyone under 50 drive it?

[@bitkahuna]

you want to talk annoying? that drumming backing track? ugh

[@CHunter415]

Please discuss the quality, or lack of quality on the inside. I went to sit in one recently and was shocked at how bad the materials where inside for the price point, I’ve used IKEA furniture that was better quality seats and interior material. At the 65k price point it’s beyond disappointing as a a Honda Pilot, Highlander, Acura MDX or many other 3 row ICE are cheaper and far superior in the quality department and for the savings you’d have to drive a lot to justify.

[@scotters201]

I agree.. I was like 65K+ for this level of interior & material..

[@davewilson7602]

The cost difference is enough that I don’t think it ever makes sense, in current EVs we’re seeing the batteries degrade after approximately 100-120k miles, which for average use on a car like this is between 6-10 years. Then you’ll have to spend probably 5k+ (that’s assuming battery replacement costs will go way down) to replace the battery pack. On a Highlander or Pilot or whatever else, the engine will usually last at least double that as long as it gets somewhat regularly maintained

[@andresmattos7541]

what evidence you have that the materials are of bad quality in the EV9, do you have any analysis have you asked the manufacturer for the composition of every part inside out or you are just brining your bias and repeating things like a parrot? Have you seen how cheap recent honda and toyota products feel nowadays? you need glasses this EV9 has very nice materials and appearence inside and out

[@Zavarcerealtor]

CR is loosing its appeal for me. The reviews seem to come from a place of mistrust, a place where "if things aren't the same as before, then they're not good" I've been watching several reviews for the past few months to see if there was a fluke. But it seems that everyone in there is struggling to see EVs as something viable

[@carljaekle]

CR continues to be lost when it comes to BEV’s. They seem to buy into all the conspiracy theories involving BEV’s. Do they test ICE vehicles at a continuous 70 MPH, and compare that result to the EPA highway rating? If not why not?

[@jbmop]

Cause it’s not relevant.

[@TJPavey]

My Mazda CX9 gets less than 300 miles on a tank, especially at 70 mph. Anyone fussing over range doesn’t understand EVs or is intentionally trying to make them sound bad. The round table when they were erroneously conflating one pedal drive with regeneration makes me think they actually don’t know what they are talking about.

[@christianrichard5805]

I lost interest 1:30 in when he says it can accept 350 kw if the charger is working. No the car cannot accept 350. It’s more along the lines of 240-253 kW

[@davewilson7602]

They do that with all cars

[@jamespaul2587]

Range anxiety is not an issue with gas and diesel vehicles, with filling stations on almost every corner. Range and charging infrastructure are critical factors for EV owners and potential buyers.

[@dougsheldon5560]

And while you're typing all that nonsense in the truck in front of you has stopped.

[@ronkemperful]

My concern is long term usability and durability. The Kia mechanical architecture design for the cooling of the battery, electrical motors and inverters, and of the interior of their vehicles has been excessively complicated with 2 different antifreeze coolants - one nonconducting and one standard with 3 separate radiators, an inefficient heat pump that requires additional electric resistant heating elements for temperatures just down in the teens, and an excessive number of separate control valves… a very expensive system to repair in the future. Kia hasn’t had a good track record for new technology, an example is their dual clutch transmissions. When Kia learns to simplify and make EV propulsion more efficient without massive batteries and massive price tags I will gladly accept their vehicles.

[@andresmattos7541]

Go read about the massive Toyota and Honda recalls. Some people like u still live in 1980.

[@davewilson7602]

@@andresmattos7541there’s specific technical information in there about how the cooling system is likely to break because it’s complicated

[@2sk21]

Good points! I'm dubious about the long term reliability of Kias but I will wait and see

[@andresmattos7541]

@@2sk21 Go see the toyota recent scandal and recalls, toyota admitted cheating safety and performance data for more than 30 years, google it, there is your toyota reputation and reliability, go read about the recent massive honda recalls and class action law suits, silly people just like to repeat like parrots without looking at the evidence.

[@kaseyc5078]

That will depreciate very quickly

[@andresmattos7541]

which car does not depreciate genius.

[@RickyRicardo-1]

We want captain chairs in all trims why do we buy suvs for a reason because it looks nice naw man because we got kids and so we need captain chairs to get them kids in the back and grown kids in the middle and adults in the front .

[@GXTOLX]

Cr was relevant in time of sears and service merchandise. No longer sorry

[@ien2023]

KIA needs to fire the UI department.

[@benjaminkoontz2711]

Our culture is interesting. Enormous 3 ton hogs with the aesthetics of backyard sheds are judged as if they are smartphones. Nevermind the excessive power it takes to move 3 tons. The 14 ( FOURTEEN ) hours it takes to charge on 240 volts. $65,000. All that matters is the charm of using the screen. No offense to CR. Just interesting to think about our priorities.

[@chriszawertany5242]

Nobody will buy this piece of junk-to expensive-trade in value down the toilet-not to mention ugly. Nobody wants EVs anyways.

[@radudeATL]

It looks like KIA made some really poor ergonomic choices with the dash. Plus it just doesn’t look that attractive. Hopefully a refresh in a few years will fix this.

[@JonathanRootD]

What is wrong with the dash? Other than the climate being behind the wheel it works and looks sleek with modern minimalism.

[@jasonstewart764]

I guess its eye of the beholder. The dash makes pretty smart compromises between the all digital of Tesla, Rivian, Volvo and the all buttons of the grandparents vehicles of the past. The only screen that is obstructed is the permanent climate touch screen which is previous vehicles was just dead space and its redundant since everything on it can either be done with physical buttons or you can still pull up a full climate screen on the main unobstructed screen or use voice. As long as there's other options I'd rather them use that space than just leave it dead.

[@user-pk7hk3vb4s]

How much is the cost of the battery to replace, is there a frunk? I expect their electric vehicle reliability will be poor like their gas vehicles.

[@JoeMama-ud5eh]

The batt prob has a 10 year 100k warranty. I have a ‘22 Niro with 38k on it. I don’t know how the dealer is because there hasn’t been anything wrong with it. By the time the batt warranty runs out, there will likely be some new technology out better than LiPo anyway. We drive our Niro so much because we love it. The controls and all on our 2017 bolt, not so much. It does have a frunk. Other reviews show it to you. I saw on at the show and tell at the dealers before they went on sale. I found the space behind the back seats, when they were up was a little small, a little less than our T&C minivan, but our minivan didn’t have awd. I literally fit a full 4x8 sheet of plywood flat in the back of our minivan but I doubt anything new can do that….

[@prevailz1]

The egmp platform that the ev9 is based on is actually very reliable and one of the best platforms on keeping the battery temps maintained. The only issue that you may come across is the 12v battery dying, which was plagued by tesla in the past as well. Warranty has always covered the issue, and some just swap out the battery to a more reliable one, like a Smart BMS LiPo battery.

[@guesswhatprofile]

clown

[@feildmaster]

There is a small frunk

[@jasonstewart764]

There is a small frunk. It has a 10 year/100K battery and power train warranty and a 5 year/60K complete warranty. That's better than most luxury brands.

[@F85M]

Gross....hyunDie-Jenesis Rubbish.

[@sunnibird]

EV's are still too expensive.

[@kingkontinuum]

A Kia 💀💀

[@jngobngo]

A Kia EV9

[@victreebel170]

It's 2024, dude.

[@JG-mp5nb]

Yep. It’s cursed.

[@andresmattos7541]

Sure u only buy ferraris you winner. 😂😂

[@jeffclark5268]

If you don’t like EVs…don’t review EVs. The little digs and purposely inaccurate numbers make you somewhat less trustworthy. I.e the 14.5 hours to charge at level 2. If your EVSE on the wall is 6kw then yes 14.5h but the EV9 has an 11kw charger so if you have 10 or 11kw EVSE then it’ll take 8.5h.

[@JG-mp5nb]

Oh great. Another Kia for endless recalls and surly service where they bogart you on a worthless warranty. Does it come with easy to steal features? Maybe tapping on the window causes the door to open? Worthless warranties. Lousy quality.

[@andresmattos7541]

Watch the massive honda and toyota recalls 😂😂😂

[@d.pollard5962]

no, tell us how you really feel. omg

[@captpicard100]

Great car but it’s a Kia so it’s $15,000 too expensive.

[@andresmattos7541]

It's a Kia what a oxymoron statement of course is a Kia. People like you still live in 1980. You wanna all these goodness for like 30k? 😂

[@lonnieschreiner5879]

way to expensive.

[@dystopia-usa]

Seems like most auto designers have no business designing vehicles. It's like they go out of their way to make the vehicle look as goofy and/or cartoonish as possible.

[@williamerazo3921]

WTF you talking about

[@Sashazur]

They wouldn’t do it if the market didn’t want it. Most Asian makes have goofy overdone styling these days, except Hondas and a few Hyundai/Kia models.

[@jasonstewart764]

Or maybe your taste is out of sync with the market they are designing for.

[@atomic190]

This battery maxes out at 210kw dcfc. On an Electrify America 150kw charger you'll can probably get around 180kw peak in ideal conditions because of the 800 volt architecture. Don't trouble yourself too much seeking 350kw rated chargers.

[@prevailz1]

I was able to hit 248 on my ev9 gt line.

[@mattscinto]

This is not correct.

​@@prevailz1that has a small battery if so? The bigger ones goes only to around 210.

[@atomic190]

​@@mattscinto Which is not correct? I'm truly confused now

[@atomic190]

​@@prevailz1That's interesting, Kia told Kyle Connor that the larger battery is rated for 210 kw. Do you know what equipment you used? What SOC were you at? How long did it hold that?

[@mdavid1955]

$65,000!