2024 KTM 300 EXC TBI Long Term Review- The good and bad

I've done over 80H of riding on my 2024 KTM 300 EXC TBI now and thought it would be a good time to share my thoughts regarding what's good and not so good...
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[@MrDirtrdr22]

Am i got 105 abused hours on my 24 xcw 300... Original plug, no head work, no ecu. I had to get my suspension worked on because of the racing ive been doing. But bike is amazing

[@assaftennenbaum6751]

How would you compare the forks to the DAL SOGGIO SPHERE FORK CARTRIDGES you had before?

[@theshed2569]

I am interested to hear about this as well!

[@TokyoOffroad]

I still love the Dal Soggio Sphere Cartridges which I have fitted on my 2017 KTM 300 EXC. No plans to change them for anything else. It's difficult to compare these directly to the XPLOR closed cartridges on my 2024 as there are many other differences. What I will say is that unlike the stock 2017 forks (which I didn't like at all, felt very unstable and deflected) the 2024 performs well in stock form. Could it be better? Yes and Dal Soggio recently announced a bladder kit (XR Kit) which can be fitted to 2024 WP enduro model closed cartridge forks and replaces the stock piston/spring pressure reservoir. This should result in improved plushness and grip. Keen to try it and will make a video if I get it. Shock Treatment have an interesting video which gives some detail regarding the XR kit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iauyq5qkrseeqrM

[@davidbeauvais1364]

@@TokyoOffroadI found a gem on eBay. Bladder forks that had a red cone valve mid valve… $500 USD.

[@riders.oregon4474]

Commentary while riding tight trails? Good job!

[@P4ddyC4ke]

It's always a good day when I get to ride vicariously through the trails of Tokyo. :)

[@Gg_gorilla_bikes]

+1 on the BRP cycra combo. I have used it on my last 2 bikes. It is rock solid even in a heavy crash

[@motoboggle7525]

You can tune most of the bottom end richness out of it by turning out the adjustment dial on the bottom of the throttle body despite what people like to tell you

[@gamermoejoe]

Literally just set up a tsp tune and med comp insert on my 250sx tbi hope for good results 👍 happy to hear your map is untouched

[@Cee-FJedi]

Thanks heaps I've been waiting for your long term before buying one. Any thoughts on testing the TSP oversized powevalve part?? Cheers 💪💪👍

[@TokyoOffroad]

I'm keen to try a TSP PV cover. Looks like they enhance bottom end power, without taking anything away from the top. I'll be sure to make a video when I get one...

[@Unkownktm]

I’ve got the 24 hard enduro, stock is perfect, just went 1 up on spring rate on fork and shock other than that `I just ride it. It’s definitely better than previous models. as for shock I have no issue with it, clickers work well, so just a matter of dialling in the ideal setting and improving riding technique

[@TokyoOffroad]

My riding buddy (he appeared a few times in the video video) is on a 2024 300 Har Enduro model. His bike is stock too. He rode mine on Saturday for the first time and was surprised at the difference in power. He said the TSP map and head has much better torque and responsiveness. But if you're happy with the stock map performance and way your bike runs fair enough... Regarding suspension, yes, the 2024 is easily the best stock suspension I've had on a bike and very rideable stock for what I do. But I do like mods if I think they will further improve my enjoyment, which is why I'm considering a bladder for the shock and a bladder pressure reservoir for the forks.

[@tylerhall3854]

One more question, I'm at 95 hours. I plan on doing top end in the next 15-20, what's your thoughts on meteor pistons? Started shopping for kits an there's not a lot to choose from, always used vertex in the past. Super pleased with bike, I also have ERM an medium comp head.

[@TokyoOffroad]

Both Meteor and Vertex 2-stroke cast pistons have good reputations so I think either is fine. KTM often use Vertex as OEM. Personally I always use OEM.

[@mikeburnett6222]

Mark, which map selection did you make? I have the ERM as well and chose the Hard Enduro map for my bike.

[@TokyoOffroad]

The version of the map I'm currently using is 3BE-24-I (unchanged from when I first installed the TSP map): kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooqzg4Rqaa9ngJIsi=-qw1OtbpSRuY7Ihn&t=279 I see that the latest version is 3BE-24-J. Version notes: "This is the latest tune for the 2024 300EXC (XC-W). This tune has changes to the Green map compared to the previous 3BE-24-I tune. The changes involve adjustments to fuel, ignition and powervalve at low throttle and mid/high revs to reduce the engine knock that is experienced on some bikes in this zone. The Green map is the aggressive/tuned map. The White map is softer with more fuel, less ignition advance, slower powervalve opening and is better suited to hard enduro or slower technical riding. Can be used with the stock pipe and silencer or the FMF Fatty pipe. IMPORTANT: Set TPS to 0.40v with both red and yellow adjusters backed all the way out." I haven't experienced any engine knock with 3BE-24-I. But I'll update the map next time anyway...

[@greatsouthernsky]

Great insight! Regarding the bike loading up, did you ride it before you deleted the oil injection, if so did it also load up then, wondering if when lugging around the injections system would have gone to a leaner ratio that may not have loaded up? Thank you!

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes, I rode it with the stock map, before deleting the the oil injection. It felt quite rich off the bottom. When I deleted the oil injection and started using premix (I use 60:1) it improved a little, but still felt too rich. There was a partial throttle rich burble. Switching to the TSP map and it runs very well.

[@BraaapoholicBob]

Great overview! I have new 24 300 XC-W and have set up pretty much same as your upgrades. Have not done any motor work yet but I’m thinking toward the TSP. Only other item I love is my Midwest Mountain Engineering shorty levers. They are insane upgrade for lever feel and you never get tired with them. Cheers!

[@TokyoOffroad]

The TSP map works great on my bike. Highly recommended. My switch to a 9mm clutch master has resulted easier clutch pull with one finger. I was looking at aftermarket clutch levers which give a mechanical pull advantage, but for now I'm going to stay with a regular one.

[@Ride4life311]

@@TokyoOffroadhave you looked into the Altrider levers! I put one on my 2024 300 XC-W! What a game changer. 40% less clutch pull and the best ergonomic comfort I’ve ever had. Check them out. You won’t be disappointed. Cheers 🍻

[@Ride4life311]

The TSP High compression head is also an absolute beast on the low and mid range. It wakes the bike up completely

[@bikevault2302]

Thailand Hard Enduro - you need this bike😂

[@getitoffroad4750]

Did you ever install the vforce4x? 0:02

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes, I've been using it for about 9 months now. I made this video which compares the stock reed valve to the VForce 4X: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYrFm3qjpb2sbZosi=JuXZX_Roz82H4bmJ Have had no issues.

[@natefenn]

What is the part number for a 9mm brembo clutch master cylinder? Just broke the entire perch off of my 24 300xcw with the 10mm…

[@neildxb]

Thanks for the video! With the new forks have you found an easy way or any useful tools to adjust the rebound clickers when the fork shoe guards are on? I find they block my fingers from getting in to turn the clickers. So far I'm removing the fork shoe for each adjustment & replacing it after. Easy to do but I'd rather not.

[@matttousey4300]

The two-stroke performance ERM mapping is awesome I had difficulties downloading it and had to have the antivirus on my laptop disabled in order to download the mapping two-stroke performance since put out a better video for people with limited computer skills like myself, your videos have helped me thank you and this is by far the best bike I've ever owned I've only ridden 6 hours on it so far I just put the medium compression head in it and we'll ride tomorrow but I can already feel the difference going down the road. Is there any reason you don't use brake disc rotor guards with all those rocks?

[@Ride4life311]

He does use a rear TMD brake disc and brake caliper gaurd.

[@TokyoOffroad]

That's right, I use a TM Designworks rear disc with caliper guard. I forgot to mention it in the video, but it works well and haven't bent a rotor so far. You can see it more clearly in this video when I fit the Crosslinked Components swingarm guards: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKPOipqEgqyNY9Usi=pCf5Ua_Aq3XhUDuU&t=240

[@matttousey4300]

@@TokyoOffroad I rode the bike today with the medium compression head , definitely more torque on the bottom also fuel mileage went up even more than with the TSP mapping alone. extremely happy well worth the money thanks for the advice, riding the rocky trails in the state of Maine north America

[@jigsaw666jigsaw]

I tried it today and a feel it a lot heavier than previous TPI. Did you noticed this?

[@neumann534]

what gearing you run on the bike now?

[@TokyoOffroad]

I'm using 13/50 gearing. Works well for my riding.

[@simplymoto07]

Blew my girl up today using cheap 2t oil 😢

[@TokyoOffroad]

Oh no! Hope you can get it running again quickly

[@simplymoto07]

@@TokyoOffroad thank you .. me too. I'm lost without my bike . It heat seized and stopped. I didn't try kicking it so I'm hoping the bore is not ruined as it's fairly new ...

[@Ktm-jas]

Hi. Can I pick your brains. I have a 2019 ktm 300 exc tpi Yesterday I was out riding all day I came home cleaned the bike and put it away , I’ve came out to it today and now it won’t start it turns fine but won’t fire up and has some oil coming from the exhaust port. Do you have any ideas what the issue could be ?

[@TokyoOffroad]

Check that the fuel line connector (left side under the tank) is securely plug together. If that's OK and it still doesn't start try a new spark plug.

[@madsoothsayer]

Are you using stock gearing (sprockets)?

[@TokyoOffroad]

No, I'm using 13/50 gearing. Stock is 13/45 on the 2024. If you want to stick with the 45 sprocket my recommendation would be to use 12/45 if you ride similar terrain. I did talk about this in the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3LTemV3ZrJ_rMUsi=CelMc5Dm5oZKPspf&t=884

[@madsoothsayer]

@@TokyoOffroad thank you!

[@tylerhall3854]

On your 24 300exc your fork decals say explorer cc? In the states the 300xcw has xact cc decals

[@TokyoOffroad]

No, the fork protection decals which came with my 2024 KTM 300 EXC state "XACT CC". You can see them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4fPf6WIlqyDe68si=YOCjMznZQ-FJ-Ybk&t=198

[@Mostviews111]

Not happy with mine as it has 40 hours on it and I've been chasing an internal knocking noise since new.

[@TokyoOffroad]

Sorry to hear that. What fuel are you using? I use high octane pump gasoline (100 RON) and no engine knock, either stock, or currently using TSP medium comp head with premix 60:1, sea level to 1,500m. If you're using low octane fuel at low altitude it will be more prone to knocking.

[@James-nc2ed]

Are the adjuster access hole on your TMD for protectors large enough to use your fingers?

[@TokyoOffroad]

I haven't tried, but doubt you could do it.

[@tylerhall3854]

As for 9mm master, I'm trying a mid-west easy pull clutch lever. Ive heard people say the mid-west lever an 9mm master are similar as far as throw an engagement? I dont really like the engagement on the Midwest, clutch seems easier modulate with standard lever in super tight/technical. Do u have any experience with Midwest lever if so how would you compare it to the 9mm. I have large hands so extra travel doesn't bother me. With the Midwest it does have more travel but to me the engagement point is very on/off

[@TokyoOffroad]

I find the 9mm Brembo master has a broader friction zone, which for me makes it easier to modulate power in technical riding. If the increase on overall lever throw (compared to the stock 10mm) I'd recommend the 9mm master to anyone who rides technical terrain and uses the clutch a lot. Regarding the Mid West lever, I personally haven't used one because multiple riding buddies have tried it and not been happy with it. Adjustment seems to be very tricky (either dragging, or slipping). And personally I don't like the very square profile shape of the lever. One of my buddies ended up with a Clake One light clutch which he really liked. For me I'm happy with the performance and feel of the Brembo 9mm.

[@tylerhall3854]

@@TokyoOffroad 9mm it is

[@ashwillmot2051]

Do you still have the 2017. I’m tempted to buy a low hours. How does the 24 compare?

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes, I still have me 2017. With the mods I've made it's a really fun bike to ride. The 2024 with Two Stroke Performance medium comp head and ERM tune makes good, smooth and responsive power. On my 2024 I'm still running the stock suspension, which for my riding (slower mountain riding) works well. Easily the best stock suspension on a bike I've had. Planning to add a bladder to the rear shock soon.

[@daveyboy7305]

​@@TokyoOffroadI have a 17 300 exc and love it . Kind of think it couldn't be improved on ( maybe the suspension ) so would love to hear a direct comparison with the 17 and 24 models .

[@miro_s]

Hi there and thanks for the video. Planning to buy my first ever enduro 2T, worried about smashing the pipe. In a recent video (can’t find it again) I remember you arguing against pipe guards as they tend to damage the flange. Is that so? Do you use a flange guard or nothing at all?

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes, I use a flange guard. They are not expensive and provide some good protection to help prevent breaking the exhaust flange on the engine. Whether you fit a pipe guard, or not, it's a good idea to fit a flange guard... Cancel Reply

[@mike-js1jj]

Can I ask what tires you are using.

[@TokyoOffroad]

Shinko 540DC 120/100-18 (Tubliss @ 2psi) and Shinko 216 Fatty Cheater 90/100-21 (Heavy tube @ 11psi)