2024 MK9 VW PASSAT R LINE - WHY IT’S BETTER THAN A TIGUAN

[@roberttye5908]

Do you know when you're going to review the new Golf face-lift?

[@volkswizard]

I have no idea unfortunately. I haven't been invited to anything and all I could extract from the UK press team (at this event) was that the first UK cars arrive at some point during a 3 month period know as summer. I suspect seeing as the cars are rolling off WOB production line that an international press launch is imminent seeing as configurator is open for the 4 trim levels (assuming they will bother)

[@roberttye5908]

@@volkswizard you got hold of the new Passat so I'm sure you'll review it at some point. Judging from what I've seen online the changes are minimal so think you might be disappointed in it. Having said I am considering upgrading my mk8 to the new R Line. Liked what you showed on the Passat. Expensive but very nice.

[@brianiswrong]

I thought tyre monitoring was a legel requirement (even my berlingo van has it) or is it an option above standard base level monitoring?

[@volkswizard]

I thought that and can only assume it gets the ABS system version as standard and proper TPMS valves as an option

[@Quickb3n]

Destined to be a company car special.

[@volkswizard]

Yes and no - it's all about the Benefit in Kind tax, I covered this in the Taycan vs S4 TDI video, it was like £600 pa for the Taycan and £6k for the A4 TDI which was around 60% of the price of the Taycan (S4 no longer on sale). So company car drivers would be mad to buy this as in one year they'd save the extra cost to 'upgrade' to the hybrid (don't know the exact figures but it's a no brainer).

[@majkl8491]

I like the coventry wheels

[@tonyfitt3590]

I had 190 Gt estare DSG for 4 years and now got a DSG 190 RLine estate which is 4 years old now and will change later this year. Both been excellent cars, with high mileages, but Not sure about the new model, i will take look, but the Skoda Superb must be explored.

[@colinw1591]

Thanks Andrew. Would be good to see a comparison with the latest Superb.....of late, I tend to prefer the more traditional styling and practicality of the Skoda brand.....👍

[@volkswizard]

It will be interesting to see how they stack up, pricing seems close. Curious to see if Škoda interior is as convincing, if so not sure if VW badge alone is enough of a draw

[@flint9591]

Deal breaker for me is the entertainment pad sticking out of the center of the dash. Cheep move !

[@volkswizard]

Not much choice, look how low the air vent is, any lower and it wouldn’t work, ventilation is very important for me and golf 8 and this have the vents too low.

[@geronimooo260]

Deal breaker for such a detail ? Customers are weird nowadays

[@andywright1634]

@@volkswizard but I wonder why do they [and others]have the screen in landscape? It makes more sense [like in Mclarens i think] to have the screen in portrait, as you predominantly want to see ahead if you use it for sat nav for example, it can run down in to the centre console area, and have air vents either side. Just makes more sense to me.

[@oliverstemp9132]

The 13 inch hardly sticks up at all. This is the 15 inch.

[@patrickvennard838]

I think VW has lost their way I imagine anyone who wants a good looking VAG estate will buy a Skoda or a Audi if you want a fast estate.

[@volkswizard]

For some (including Geoff) a Skoda badge isn't going to cut it. And Audi's new A5 Tourer will be even more expensive (A4 goes EV but A5 lives on as ICE Sportback and Avant thank god).

[@patrickvennard838]

@@volkswizard I have had MKII-VII GTi two Skoda Octavia response cars and one 8Y RS3 and to be honest, the build quality of the Skoda is better than that of my RS3. I really wanted a MK VIII Golf R but the quality and lack of buttons put me off. I think your S4 is the ticket if you want good looking daily estate.

[@tonyjazz4073]

At least it's not another ID series launch. Perhaps your choice is this or the Tiguan but prices north of 50K are nuts. For that you're looking at recent M series a year old plus similar types. Decent effort, seen in golf club car park/airport taxi soon.

[@volkswizard]

Well Tony, ID7 was available to drive but I didn’t bother filming it. However it makes Passat look good value as it definitely feels cheaper inside.

[@abrahamgeorge4994]

Good video Andrew - I have a 2019 190bhp AllTrack with 4motion and it’s been an excellent reliable car: comfortable, spacious with great carrying capacity and a good gutsy diesel engine ( same as the Golf GTD) so plenty of power and torque and the 4motion gives added security in winter/wet weather. Not sure about the styling of the new one but sometimes you have to see it in person. So glad you mentioned about why buy a SUV ( Tiguan etc) when the carrying capacity, spacious and driveability is far better in estates. Why is the range of engines in the Passat so limited compared to what is offered in Europe. The equivalent new Skoda in the UK will offer a greater range of options including diesels and 4motion - also more powerful petrol engines. I suspect the 1.5 is for the private motorist and the two plug-in hybrids are for company car drivers.

[@rodneyhchef1]

Prefer the B8 externally as it looked more passat-like (I have a 1987 B2 passat estate and the B8 looks very similar to me!) but it’s hard to dismiss how good a car it is. The superb equivalent will have separate climate controls, so Jeff might prefer one of those…

[@robtt997]

Good thorough review . Well done. I like estates much more than SUVs . They are cooler cars .

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Rob! 👍 Cooler but also better for your pocket and dynamically superior and in this case vs Tiguan more practical. Not just win win but win win win win :)

[@craigbest5327]

Really great review. Thank you 👍

[@tipp55]

No saloon, huge oversized screen stuck on top of the dash, nasty alloys. Those things apart, it's a pretty nice car.

[@harrytanfield193]

Looks and styled like a car that should have more than 150hp 😂

[@volkswizard]

Well the hybrid has 272 and look the same so you are right :)

[@harrytanfield193]

@@volkswizard saw that later on, will pull stronger than a mapped pd 😂

[@interceptor-ss8kb]

The fact they offer no 2.0L tsi either so your left with that gutless 1.5 is really annoying. It makes the Skoda Superb estate the one to go for as you can get a diesel with that

[@hughjanus7354]

1:39 "shporty" dafaque iz dat?

[@oldhamer111]

This is the first time a new Passat has arrived and I prefer the look (and interior) of the old one...Nice video though, thank you Andrew.

[@volkswizard]

Thank you oldhamer! As I've said before as long as you like the video that is all I care about :)

[@jaywhitney789]

Omg ive had 3 passat estates. When they took out the internal clock that really annoyed me 🤣. But omg, they have ruined it. Soka superb it is from 24 onwards 🤦‍♂️.

[@mda5003]

I wish they'd bring back the Jetta saloon.

[@volkswizard]

It probably still exists in some Far Eastern market where they don't like hatchbacks, or maybe even America.

[@superseven7947]

I've had a good few passats estates for work, last 2 were excellent, bullet proof powerfull 190tdi engines. Replaced my last with an A40 tdi audi A4 .. very disappointing and doesn't feel as special as my previous2018 GT spec Passat . I'd definitely go back to passat for my next work car

[@JohnGuidetti751]

Let’s not be silly now. An A4 is miles better than a Passat.

[@interceptor-ss8kb]

I have a B8 passat estate and the wife is Audi and bmw mad thanks to her dad, shes had A4s as company cars and I would put the passat above one of them anyday​@JohnGuidetti751

[@garys7828]

Nice looking car....but even without options very expensive

[@volkswizard]

That's the way of the world sadly. On the plus side, discounts should be forthcoming. Ultimately people can only afford x and with interest rates still chunky (unless subsidized by manufacturers) these new RRPs are pie in the sky.

[@bengilrane]

Respectfully please do not call the B9 Passat a mk9 it’s not a golf👍

[@volkswizard]

Mk isn’t specific to Passat or even VW, it just means generation, commonly used on Fords too. Nerds might say B6 etc but this means nothing to the non-nerd and is often misheard as V6. Also with Audi A4 a B5 is not the 5th gen A4 so confuses people. Parkers (who I respect) use this terminology too so I’m happy it’s valid; www.parkers.co.uk/volkswagen/passat/saloon-2011/used-review/

[@focus3303]

I had a 1990 VW passat 16v two tone. Its was Red with the black plastic bottom part along the doors....a saloon model.

[@volkswizard]

I know it well, the B4 model with nose cone (no grille). Back in the 90s I bought a used one for my boss, it was brilliant, it had the 2.0 115 engine from Mk3 GTI

[@focus3303]

@volkswizard exactly.....the interior I think was a two tone grey.....dark grey trim with a lighter grey chequered middle part. 🙂

[@justinkirkhope8810]

I ran a used B4 Passat GT 8v for a few years, really weird spec VW Burgundy non-metallic but with full cream leather interior. Rear seats even had a recline function, bags of rear leg room, but mine had a few electrical gremlins. Headlight output was awful, I think a bit like mk1 Golf, the headlight feed went through the dash switch rather than having relays closer to the lights.

[@getnyrb]

I prefer the look and price of the Octavia.

[@zzhughesd]

Anything does. Superb a great looker. The Tiguan and this Passat just aren’t an improvement on styling. It’s going backwards. Stupid

[@volkswizard]

Octavia is OK but the dash/infotainment of the current model is tragic and I don't know how Skoda have got away with it and VW get slated. It's all in my review from 2021.

[@zzhughesd]

@@volkswizard yup, had forgot ice screens c.2020 the dogs

[@briankeenan6553]

Now that’s a looker !❤

[@apox5308]

Volks wizard done Volkswagen dirty….

[@volkswizard]

Good old Mat 😁

[@alivekicking6247]

"R line" is never good. A car is either an R version, or it's not. Not a fan of any "Line" version of any car... that includes fake S line, fake AMG body kits, fake M sport kits etc

[@volkswizard]

I know what you mean but profit margins are much bigger on R than R line so when it comes to value the pretenders make a lot of sense. How much would an R be if this R line is £47k?! With Golf 8 2.0 TDI 140 R line is probably the best value

[@alivekicking6247]

@volkswizard but why can't they call them the "lux" or something? It muddies the name of performance versions of cars and undermines them.

[@jochem1986]

@@alivekicking6247You’d be bemused by how much money car companies make from people who are comfortable pretending that they have a performance version. Vanity is a huge part of what makes the world go round.

[@alivekicking6247]

@jochem1986 it's mad. I just don't get it. What's the point without the correct engine, suspension etc?

[@jochem1986]

@@alivekicking6247 The slightly sad desire to impress beyond one's means.

[@richarddastardly6845]

Not for me, no saloon option anymore and no more diesel so I’ll go for Tiguan I think

[@volkswizard]

New Tiguan will be my next review video, possibly Friday 👍

[@richarddastardly6845]

@@volkswizard please find out if the light bars both front and rear can be deactivated somehow, I can’t stand them

[@danielrussell446]

I agree I do like the Tiguan a lot I think it will take sales from this

[@paulmk5841]

Nice to see you did this video close to the pub I frequent. lol. Nice motor.Would love an 'R' version.

[@nealjoyce8696]

The Passat Alltrack 190 ps Tdi 4MOTION was one of my all time favourite cars and towed my heavy caravan with ease , this one isn’t as good looking I’m afraid I’d prefer the new facelift Skoda Octavia VRS

[@volkswizard]

The 2020 ish Octavia had a really bad infotainment system, much worse than VW and was just as buggy yet VW got all the flack unfairly. I hope they've sorted it with the new one, I presume its gone MIB4 as well which is good news if so but they need to angle it towards the driver as well - old one was inline with front axle to save pennies not having to make a different section of dash for LHD and RHD. Simply stupid.

[@incasejstn]

Is it just me or was the first section of the video was oddly distorted? Almost as if you were in front of a green screen. Otherwise great video Andrew.

[@markrennie6659]

A £47k 150bhp 1.5 litre estate? Should sell by the bucketload! 😂 Certainly makes the S3 facelift look good value. Massage seats standard, rear door electric child safety locks and tyre pressure monitoring optional? 🤔 Heater controls still in the infotainment system. Great when you’re stationary but a chore on the move. 🙄 Great video as always though, thanks Andrew! 👍🏼

[@volkswizard]

As long as you like the video Mark then that's all I care about. Must look at Joe Achille's S3 facelift review as need to see if Audi have sacked the person from Dacia who chose the materials for the old model's interior

[@DownShiftThrottle]

Styling looks like a mishmash of 2018 vauxhall astra, Hyundai and a Peugeot.....not sure about it but I'd probably buy a Tiguan over it.

[@volkswizard]

Review of new Tiguan coming soon, might change you mind ;)

[@maverick4177]

Does anyone buy Passat of any version anymore?

[@volkswizard]

Good question, last year sales were tiny in the UK but I put that down to supply issues and it being an old model but the hard fact is that most people probably went out and bought a 3 series and I can't really blame them.

[@cfpu4863]

Genuinely no idea who buys this, corporate or private. Geoff is probably buying a used Superb! 😃Pricing is complete madness at the moment. VW styling on an odd journey is recent years - but they're not alone! Thanks for the video & subscriber thanks Andrew, we appreciate you too 👍

[@volkswizard]

Thank so much cfpu! And BTW, Geoff wouldn't be seen dead down the Conservative Club in one of those communist Skodas 😁

[@volkswizard]

Thank so much cfpu! And BTW, Geoff wouldn't be seen dead down the Conservative Club in one of those communist Skodas 😁

[@danielrussell446]

Hi Andrew a great review as ever and I think Volkswagen have made a good job of the Passat it’s a big comfortable estate loads of room to put things in it would be ideal for me with two boys and all the luggage we have but I do worry about the depreciation so for that reason I would probably have a Tiguan here’s hoping this will be the yardstick for the golf 8 facelift

[@wynhughes9072]

Do not like those big centre screens. Noticed Andrew how you took your eyes off the road to select certain options. Thank you as well for shoehorning us oap's into a certain customer bracket. I'm 71 and still love driving my S3 and MK1 Golf Gti. And have no intention of buying one of these Rep.mobiles. And I believe you will still be a performance car driver when you get to my age...lol Apart from that winge. Great enthusiastic video on a very mundane car

[@JimboJammy]

Excellent review and I really like this new Passat, but I think you hit the nail on the head once again, who's that particular car even for?

[@volkswizard]

You like the review and the car? Wow that’s a first I think😄Glad you did anyway. Not sure who will buy it, only on press fleet I assume because hybrids haven’t arrived yet so they are getting the word out with this one

[@aaaaplay]

I've read that the MIB4 system is really just a reskinning of the MIB3 system. More of an MIB3.5. The mapping (by HERE) looks near identical and some of the HMI screens like Drive Modes, Driver Assist, Park Assist etc... are the same. If you've got the latest 1969 update for the LG MOI3/MIB3 then it looks equally fluid to this. Unfortunately the OTA updates are very slow to roll out. Also if the software version is older than 1941 then OTA updates fail to appear. So there are a lot of owners out there still suffering with software issues and needlessly.

[@RichThomas68]

Attractive and premium looking, had a mk7 estate and loved it, practical load luggers

[@malcolmscott4150]

Excellent review Andrew - Passat in Vic has become the local police fleet car of choice along with highway patrol BMWs - wagon most popular here but being dropped as no demand for non SUVs unfortunately

[@volkswizard]

Thanks Malcolm, interesting feedback on Police wheels in AUS. VW's are rare over here as proper traffic cop cars but they do exist, it's mainly Volvo now, BMWs have lost the contract I gather.

[@garymcgregor7048]

I think it looks lovely, so aggressive, and steering wheel is much better

[@volkswizard]

👍👍

[@Jack-D-Ripper]

I wouldn't have a "Milk Float" given, other than to sell it at a loss. Petrol, petrol, petrol every single time. Mild hybrid is okay to fill in the power gaps, but EVs are a joke.

[@oliverstemp9132]

I love that they still make the Passat, not much different to the Tiguan though, just less mumsy.

[@volkswizard]

Surprisingly similar to Tiguan on paper but inside Tiguan is less good, why? I have no idea.

[@rasherbasher8203]

Will there be a Passat r?

[@volkswizard]

I doubt it and if there will be it will be so bloody expensive. I think VW learned with Arteon R it's a bridge too far

[@andrewmarsden1970]

Very smart.

[@stephenbutler3333]

I run a 2018 TSFI 220 bhp B8 R line estate which i opted out of the co cars scheme with. I really like it. Im a bit concerned that the German manufacturer's used to call the UK 'treasure Island' many years ago before the existence of the EU , and now post Brexit they're all fleecing us again because they can ?!?!

[@volkswizard]

I’ve never (in last 10 years) found cars in Europe cheaper than here, new or used. Market forces will decide on the price of new cars. VW have some strong competition now and factories are back in full swing so expect 10-15% discounts to be common. However I paid £32k for my brand new Mk8 CS in march 2021 and expect inflation since then to mean I’ll never get even close to that sort of deal again - £38k today 😬

[@jochem1986]

Has there ever been an estate only bodywork version of a car?

[@volkswizard]

That’s a great question. Before I rack my brains I wonder if China has a saloon version?

[@volkswizard]

www.carthrottle.com/news/theres-new-volkswagen-passat-saloon-after-all

[@Birmingham_racing]

I've always liked passats but this is too weird I don't like it. Vw styling was on point a few years ago this looks more like a Peugeot

[@johngoodwin1710]

Oh dear. I look forward to seeing one per year.

[@volkswizard]

It will be interesting. The hybrid versions we will probably see a lot more of because the ID7 pure EV is similar money but interior is less good and you only get one source of propulsion (and a flawed one at that).

[@Zero_Ninety]

I'll stick with my R36 thanks.

[@volkswizard]

I’d like to stick with your R36 💙

[@steveburroughs7343]

I’ll not be replacing my Tiguan R (one of the best cars I’ve ever owned) with one of these. Any Passat I’ve ever had has been a total yawn to drive.

[@johnjcs1982]

You need the Tiguan to load kids and babies in without breaking your back Andrew - I've got a PHEV Tiguan mk 2.5 and it's an excellent family car. In my opinion, like rim brake road bikes which I know you will appreciate, modern road bikes all look the same and are all disc brake. Like road bikes the sweetspot from an aesthetic and design perspective for the Passat was back in 2017 in saloon form, even if the modern car is much better equipped from a tech and economy perspective. This Passat takes design cues from the iD4 which in my opinion looks hideous, good review though.

[@volkswizard]

Thanks John. I guess emissions are screwing up design language now too. With regards to babies and SUVs I understand that but I bet that’s a tiny proportion of SUV buyers. Also it amazes me how many parents ferry their kids around in inefficient SUVs with no thought to the climate emergency that will impact their children significantly more than them. It’s even worse that many of these vehicles originate from China (including Volvo) who is trying very hard to subvert western society and support Russia. End of rant 😬

[@jayburrell]

Great review Andrew 👍

[@volkswizard]

Thanks so much Jay 👍 Considering it was a 90 min filming slot I'm glad I am not being told it's a crap review :)

[@nickaf5262]

its crazy that there stopping diesels such a shame Glad ive bought a new diesel mercedes now even though my golf estate gttd was best car i ever had

[@mattluxton]

Very impressed with the interior. Exterior wise I’m not sure. Maybe with bigger wheels and a different colour it may appeal more to me I don’t know.

[@volkswizard]

Red is good for photos but rarely suits big cars so a grey might do it. As usual the wheels don’t help, even if you can get 19s, they will still be stuck in the arches too far. Interior is very good though at least

[@mattluxton]

@@volkswizard I just spent some time on the Volkswagen configurator and made one in grey with the 19s. As you can probably imagine the design of these leaves a lot to be desired and they do indeed still look lost. Be interesting to see some out and about but I’m a fan overall

[@Matty12333]

I prefer the 2006 passat

[@paulwaites6551]

I have had three passat's i won't be buying this one, Far to expensive. I think the bmw 320i touring is a far better looking car and better value for money.

[@volkswizard]

3 series is due a facelift so plenty of time for BMW to ruin that car's so far inoffensive looks (4 series/M3 excluded)

[@brianiswrong]

As you say andrew A 1.5 petrol engine, big BIK and over the £40k luxury ved is going to be a firm NO for any company car user who can choose what they drive.

[@volkswizard]

I didn't think of VED and luxury car tax. Just checked and with a hybrid you dodge the BIK hike (5% if it does 70+ on electric range which hybrid does) but you still get the LCT which a pure EV dodges - still that's a small price to pay for no range anxiety. There will be a cheaper model sub £40k but it won't be a hybrid so impossible to dodge one or the other sadly

[@zzhughesd]

Sadly it’s no looker. AND. Over years SW / Estate Passats looked ace !!!! Sad we’ve gone full circle now in the era of tragic design. 19/20 cars bettter looking earlier generations. What. Crap. No diesel Passats. What a crack pot clown world we live in. We don’t need mega size iPads. We need traditional door handles full size spare wheels. Old school handbrakes and good design. Not insane size iPads and haptic feedback

[@volkswizard]

You won’t like the door handles on ID7 then 😬Only really positive is efficiency, diesel mpg from petrol is impressive

[@zzhughesd]

@@volkswizard crazy that current smaller capacity petrol hybrids reached 65 mpg with cylinder deactivation. And yet we’re getting unproven EV tech down our next

[@geronimooo260]

You must be kidding right ? The last generations looked better ?? Wait, how old are you ? 😂

[@zzhughesd]

@@geronimooo260 47 currently, not getting younger

[@geronimooo260]

@@zzhughesd 45 here, I get you

[@MrMr1ish]

Always liked Passat estates, but think this is a horribly over-designed machine. Like most VWs lately.

[@leemace9638]

Sadly VW are stopping importing estate cars here in Australia 🇦🇺 it’s all SUVs 😢

[@kevinclarke9933]

I’m not keen on that screen. I think it’s a poor solution just to stick an iPad style screen on the dash, and as mentioned by someone else - what about the safety?

[@volkswizard]

VW aren't the first, Tesla have done it for years and no record of extra accidents as a result of driver inattentiveness (Autopilot is a different story!). The new Passat has so many safety systems which is probably no coincidence. What is a good is that the screen is in the perfect position. What is bad though is that the air vents are too low and I bet more likely to cause accidents due to drowsiness. My Golf 8 was bad like that

[@paddycoleman1472]

Still loathe touch screens in cars. Highly dangerous.

[@chrisp4899]

I can see them losing sales by not having a diesel

[@volkswizard]

Hybrid is the diesel for company car owners in UK. Probably is when they are clapped out after 4 years and 60k with no warranty, used car buyers may not find them so appealing

[@WALKET91]

Too much “Korean” these new Volkswagen. I prefer the last generation design

[@leemiguel3437]

Brother ueewwwww…..eughhhhhh.

[@parvindermander5664]

Mk6 Passat was the best built Passat

[@geronimooo260]

The past was better, okay pal

[@volkswizard]

I beg to differ - I used to sell ex-lease B5 1.9 TDIs with 100k miles up them no problems. B6 2.0 TDI 140 starts coming through and it's not a good look when they have be towed through the auction with the engine largely in boot - I think the balancer shaft was...shafted. General build quality was OK to be fair but it wasn't a good car for a few years. Their only real plus was that they drove really nicely, just like Mk5 Golf which they were based on. Previous B5 model was effectively an Audi A4 for VW money (just like the original was very similar to an Audi) and the accountants couldn't allow that forever.

[@Tagomago12]

It looks a lot better inside when you don't have to see the outside and all the bells and whistles take the price to silly levels, nice presentation though.

[@volkswizard]

Thanks - as long as you like the video that's all I care about :) had 90 mins to film a 23 min video which believe it or not isn't easy and took a lot of prep but was good fun and VW laid on the perfect filming environment having learned from previous events geared towards those who write, and don't film.

[@vladmihai306]

frankly, it's a nice car, but they got too expensive this generation. a decent spec is 40-45-50k euros. what?

[@marcuswoodgate4026]

Those Alloys 🤮

[@davideoblak]

I just don't get why would you need such a big screen in a car. This is a step too far for me.

[@volkswizard]

Have you been in a Tesla? It’s all screen in there and they’ve sold a few so it’s apparently what people want

[@SF-rs3xm]

You can get a smaller screen than the one in the video. It also has a 12” screen standard

[@sergeydanilov]

Cheap. Infotainment screen that sticks out. No plastic window surrounds in interior. You can see external red metal from the inside of the car. Ridiculous. External window trim on front doors is not straight. It bends near the rear view mirror. Who designed this? No powerful engines. Why not to put 2.5l 5 cylinder engine from rs3 there. Idiots. Cheap carpets. Small wheels for the size of the car. Wheel should be higher than middle line of the car. Only that way the car will look nice.

[@stefanconstantinescu1576]

Model Y is way way better value for money as a familly car

[@volkswizard]

If you want an electric car then great but this isn't an electric car so it's not really a fair comparison. Looking at sales and Tesla's slashing of prices, it's not going to end well and depreciation of EVs is tragic. So outside of a PCP funded which will be heavily by the manufacturer (and one that you absolute must not terminate early even if you hate the car or circumstances change as the penalties are huge) no EV is better VFM than a good ICE car when you look at the total cost of ownership. And manufacturers won't be able to afford to lose so much on PCP EVs so it's only a matter of time before something gives. PS I like the way and EV drives, I don't like depreciation on any car

[@geronimooo260]

Plus, and let’s be honest here for a minute : the model Y is a dull generic SUV with no personality whatsoever, when the Passat is a sexy break

[@TerbrugZondolop]

Frankly disgusting.

[@volkswizard]

Very concise :)

[@TerbrugZondolop]

@@volkswizard no need to waste time beating around the bush. We all know VW has completely lost the plot. There is nothing going for this car. Old passat is a design marvel for this.

[@rasherbasher8203]

First

[@volkswizard]

Nice one rasher :)

[@cousinbillybob3224]

That looks awful…🫣 My 2016 Skoda Superb 3 estate is far better looking..! Says it all really…

[@paulmussett94]

Have to agree, think the older and newer Skoda Superb estate look much better.

[@justinkirkhope8810]

Would definitely be interesting to have another vid to compare this with the Superb 4 - I really like the pics I've seen of the Skoda interior, including its multifunction physical climate control dials.

[@geronimooo260]

Really ? I don’t think so, the superb is fine but really dull, the Passat is far sexier

[@Rotciv1929]

Your Skoda superb is a Passat with knickers

[@cousinbillybob3224]

@@Rotciv1929 No shit Sherlock, but my 2016 Superb is better looking than that 2024 Passat.