2024 Two-Stroke Turbo Trail Sled SHOOTOUT! Patriot Boost vs 850 Turbo R

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SnowTrax TV

SnowTrax TV

5 ай бұрын

It's time for a good ol' fashioned SNOWTRAX SHOOTOUT!! This segment features a showdown between the two 2-stroke turbocharged trail sleds currently available on the market for the 2024 - The Polaris Patriot Boost Indy VR1 137 and The Ski-Doo MXZ X-RS with Competition Package featuring the ROTAX 850 E-TEC Turbo R engine!
#polaris #skidoo #LetsRide #ThatSkiDooFeeling #snowmobile #turbo #snowtraxtv
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@pajamatime5750
@pajamatime5750 5 ай бұрын
Whhhhoooooahh what a shoot out. I’m sure the comments are going to be wild! Everyone: Take a second to appreciate what we see here…. Who would have thought years ago that we’d be talking turbos on sleds that make 180+ HP, are jammed packed with technology and handle like they’re on rails…. These are truly the pinnacle of snowmobiles! We’re lucky to have brand options and these two clearly push each other to produce the best sleds ever. Thanks guys for bringing us this shootout!!! Have a great season! Look forward to the next video!!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!! 👊💥🎉
@mrmoparrr
@mrmoparrr 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t mind a few 1000ft DragRaces in the next Video!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
@@mrmoparrr Stay tuned!!
@sergiolandz6056
@sergiolandz6056 5 ай бұрын
still wont beat a good old 90's tripple sound.
@pajamatime5750
@pajamatime5750 5 ай бұрын
@@sergiolandz6056 Hahahahaha nope - not even close!!!!!
@biffdotorg
@biffdotorg 5 ай бұрын
Not only is shot nice, but it brings back the rope start backup standard! A huge miss on other doo models not having a rope backup and leaving it as an option you need to buy.
@let_it_ride9216
@let_it_ride9216 5 ай бұрын
SHOT should be a industry standard love it on my trail ridden FREERIDE every weekend
@darrylwebb388
@darrylwebb388 5 ай бұрын
Awesome shootout! Thanks again guys
@coryroot
@coryroot 5 ай бұрын
I like the style of this video with both of you talking about the sleds!
@SnowmobileHomeMovies
@SnowmobileHomeMovies 5 ай бұрын
Love this video before even watching it. I don't care who wins I just love the fact that you did it.
@dskofich
@dskofich 5 ай бұрын
This is the one I have been waiting for!!!!!! Great Review guys!!!!!!!
@lowandfast4491
@lowandfast4491 5 ай бұрын
Both sick sleds,I have a 2023 assault 850 and I love it. Made me fall in love with the sport again. Just wish it would snow in Minnesota
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
@Snowtrax - great video guys. Thank you!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@pliskie6
@pliskie6 5 ай бұрын
I own both brands, I think you should have included braking which is a very important category, more so than if one has shot starter or not. Also, The screen technology needs to be on it's own comparison and we all know the 7S is in a whole different world from the 10.25 functionality. The mapping system on the skidoo is garbage, so don't discount that. So when you add these two important categories, then Polaris wins. You could do this all day long. Both are great sleds, it comes down to which one fits a person and handles better.
@flyinhighaerial3193
@flyinhighaerial3193 5 ай бұрын
which one is faster wot?
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
They couldn't confirm - they said that within the first few minutes.@@flyinhighaerial3193
@bedlambikes
@bedlambikes 5 ай бұрын
I'd also add in customization when spring ordering. When spending well over 20K on a new top shelf performance sled, its nice not to be forced into buying something that will look EXACTLY the same as everyone else who ordered one. Even Ford had this figured out back in the 1920's!
@brandenjoseph604
@brandenjoseph604 5 ай бұрын
I haven't rode the competition turbo. We don't have snow so I haven't rode much of anything this year. However, I believe the competition is a 4 piston caliper with an adjustable brake lever. If braking is your concern, I don't think the Polaris brake system would be better and it certainly lacks the adjustability. Kinda important since no two people are the same.
@Outdoors-and-Sports
@Outdoors-and-Sports 5 ай бұрын
Got so excited when I saw this in my notifications!
@mattbonnell7023
@mattbonnell7023 5 ай бұрын
Awesome vid guys. Really enjoyed it.
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate that!!
@davidking8909
@davidking8909 5 ай бұрын
YOU GOTTA LINE THEM UP ON THE LAKE! TURBOS ARE MADE TO GO FAST, SO LETS SEE WHICH ONE IS FASTER!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately where we were testing these in March we didn’t have a safe place to run them head to head, but we have both on site this season and will do a special KZbin video in the very near future. Initially the Polaris has been quicker, actually our Switchback Boost has been the fastest sled we have this year so far, but our skidoo wasn’t out of break-in. We will make sure to put both our boosts and the 850 Turbo as well as the 900 Turbo R in the race just for interest sake. Actually we will have an XTX Sidewinder as well so might toss that in the mix too. - AJ
@mrmoparrr
@mrmoparrr 5 ай бұрын
When are we going to see the Drag Race !!! ? 😎
@twall0594
@twall0594 5 ай бұрын
All good points that are brought up. However I don’t understand how you don’t mention brakes or the fact that you need cell service on the BRP gauge, effectively rendering the maps useless. That’s kind of a big deal when it comes to tech, a lot more than handlebar angle markers. And even though my bias is to Polaris and know that their brake is superior, at least throw Ski-Doo a bone for coming out with a new brake! Is it better? How close is it to the Polaris? Thanks for doing this comparo SnowTrax!
@TheTurboteg94
@TheTurboteg94 5 ай бұрын
You don't need service for the maps. You can download entire states to the app and use the GPS rather You have service or not
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
For more detailed info on the XRS Competition, check out that full test ride. I talk about the brakes there. They ARE a wild improvment over any other skidoo brake. Still not as good as a polaris though.
@koltonguralski7517
@koltonguralski7517 5 ай бұрын
I think you guys should do top speed testing on these like you did with the 900 ace turbo and t cat! Would compare the two turbo 2 strokes but also turbo 2 strokes to turbo 4 strokes!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Stay tuned!!
@jc9601
@jc9601 5 ай бұрын
What sled is faster in 1/8 mile?
@davidpickens3117
@davidpickens3117 5 ай бұрын
AJ and Luke, I love your videos and comparing different snowmobiles. The LIKES and DISLIKES. AWESOME JOB. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jasonfreake9020
@jasonfreake9020 5 ай бұрын
Great video guys thanks. I own both a 2023 Boost and a Competition 850T. I have just shy of 1000km on my Comp now and I have to say it's the best Doo I have owned to date. I thought it was going to be to stiff but it is perfection in the suspension department. The front end is the best handling Doo I have had. Not as good as my Boost and certainly not as good as my 24 XCR 850, but still oh so good! I sold my Mach at the beginning of the season and do not miss it one bit. I can tell you as of the last time I lined up my Boost and Comp the Boost was bye bye. Quicker and faster on GPS. I only had about 150km on the Comp at that time. Time to line them up again now that the Comp is broke in.
@daletoole6873
@daletoole6873 5 ай бұрын
Nice review. Great job guys
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@donhacker
@donhacker 5 ай бұрын
Really well done. I have a '24 VR1 Boost 137" and enjoyed the video.
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jasonarbour1616
@jasonarbour1616 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic shootout
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@justsomeone6835
@justsomeone6835 5 ай бұрын
Doing the Doo 🏆
@s1edneck700
@s1edneck700 5 ай бұрын
Both great sleds, thanks for the review. The one thing I couldn’t deal with on the skidoo is the open footwells. Idk how you guys do it, but I absolutely cannot weight the outside board in a corner without my foot flying off. Lynx has traps on the side which make total sense. Open wells made the sled feel super insecure and gave me very little confidence to push it.
@rickkneeshaw6337
@rickkneeshaw6337 5 ай бұрын
The side plates can be added. I originally put them on with the same thoughts as you, but have since removed them. No regrets.
@snomofilms
@snomofilms 5 ай бұрын
Gotta throw Doo a bone every few years anyway 😂. Too bad it’s almost February and us in the Midwest haven’t had a day to ride yet 😢
@welderteach
@welderteach 5 ай бұрын
Whoa whoa whoa, but which one is faster??
@rw3100
@rw3100 5 ай бұрын
Good choice guys 👍🏻.And It's a 🇨🇦 🇲🇶 made and that's a great thing 👍🏻❄❄❄❄
@hunterb1215
@hunterb1215 5 ай бұрын
Who pays these prices for a snowmobile my god ! Crazy!
@handsomerob9715
@handsomerob9715 5 ай бұрын
I’d be more than happy to ride and own either one!
@johnfila6480
@johnfila6480 5 ай бұрын
the polaris is the sharper looking sled..
@gregfleenor9654
@gregfleenor9654 5 ай бұрын
Look forward to having all 4 big dogs head-to-head on a 2-3 mile stretch of groomed lake run. If all 4 can be acquired & have some break-in. The 998 has held the speed title for virtually a decade & beat off all posers. Maybe there is a new titleholder?
@billkenyonbk
@billkenyonbk 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video!! Where are you guys testing these? Conditions look good!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
This was shot in Montana in March. Conditions were amazing.
@AZBADBOYz
@AZBADBOYz 5 ай бұрын
As a former desert racer of big bore two strokes, I'd freaking love to throw my legs over that Ski-Doo MXZ X-RS.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
Rotax and Polaris those 2 stroke bigger for cars/trucks too. I hate 4 joke stroke in them too.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
Rotax and Polaris those 2 stroke bigger for cars/trucks too. I hate 4 joke stroke in them too.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
Rotax and Polaris those 2 stroke bigger for cars/trucks too. I hate 4 joke stroke in them too.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 ай бұрын
I bought 2 55 gallon barrels of Methanol years ago. I have an off road diesel lime spreader truck with a 3208 Cat engine swap.. That Radiator is not big enough and after 19,500 hours since a re-core it's too thin which makes it not cool very well. So I added water Injection in the summer... I have to add methanol to the 7 gallon tank in when it's cold out.. Injecting water makes steam and cools your engine that steam is free horse power and fuel economy .
@sylvainlaurence1554
@sylvainlaurence1554 5 ай бұрын
Love it.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Check out the story I did specifically on the Skidoo engine. It covers all of this.
@pullman24
@pullman24 5 ай бұрын
Love the competition that Ski-Doo always brings to the industry. I wonder how Polaris will respond? I still prefer the 7s display. Great video as always
@brentbeiler7051
@brentbeiler7051 5 ай бұрын
Agree that ski-do is wicked! But I’ll take either one.
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
😆
@twistedsxs2426
@twistedsxs2426 5 ай бұрын
Always a great review! Crazy how Ski-doo can add a turbo, piping, waste gate and Methanol tank and fluid for 6lbs?
@sylvainlaurence1554
@sylvainlaurence1554 5 ай бұрын
SHOTS. STARTERS SAVE WEIGHT.
@pajamatime5750
@pajamatime5750 5 ай бұрын
@@sylvainlaurence1554 Really?
@markfeasel9431
@markfeasel9431 5 ай бұрын
Can I ask one question. Lighting on them skidoo vs Polaris... Night time riding. Which one do you prefer for nighttime rides
@farmshoffman8475
@farmshoffman8475 5 ай бұрын
Skidoo is the top dog now , doesn’t matter if u have some extra thing to fill , still out performs over Polaris they hit a home run,
@markcomisky7106
@markcomisky7106 4 ай бұрын
Should do all the turbos quarter mile
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 4 ай бұрын
Just need snow and it never happened this season.
@calcobb442
@calcobb442 5 ай бұрын
Baloney...I will take the Polaris all day long!!!
@joshgessinger4509
@joshgessinger4509 4 ай бұрын
Want to know what the competition the competition package is for lol!! Since there is no terrain racing that allows 850’s must just be for Polaris boost haha!! Good stuff Would love to see a drag race though with all the turbo’s including cat and Yamaha.
@shelhawke7206
@shelhawke7206 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it, can you also get a Thundercat ?
@jlhjr1979
@jlhjr1979 5 ай бұрын
Great comparison. Love my 23 VR1 Boost and 22 XCR 850. I'd love to see either the patriot boost or 9R in the XCR offered by Polaris. The 7S is the game changer compared to other offerings.
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
7S is awesome.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Something like an XC9R? Thats what I want.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 ай бұрын
My Cousin says those High Horsepower sleds are the first to the scene of the accident .
@sylvainlaurence1554
@sylvainlaurence1554 5 ай бұрын
It’s part of the game, no one is forced here…
@tomtraynor5384
@tomtraynor5384 5 ай бұрын
Thing I notice in action shots is the Polaris front A-arms are sagged below the mounting points. Thinking that's not ideal--especially in rough trails.
@adampetten1009
@adampetten1009 5 ай бұрын
cool but i'm here hoping for a 700 2 stroke to return... 700 comp XRS with 46mm KYB all around and shot start has me drooling. riding in the mtns the boost RMK sputters as well... like it needs to be full throttle all the time. could be why so many are going through multiple sets of plugs per season or week in some cases.
@MrGrobert1
@MrGrobert1 5 ай бұрын
And the 10.25 " display dont get black?😅 is that issue fixt?
@otahu26
@otahu26 4 ай бұрын
The Prob I have is Range. If you add Power. Ad some range with a larger gas tank. How often do I see people carrying gas like we did in the 1990's when we had 650 sks. Gas range is the pits. Give us enough to get 140 to 160 miles and still be a trail missile.
@scottsweeney5005
@scottsweeney5005 5 ай бұрын
I want to see you guys race both of these sleds
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Stay tuned...
@mrmoparrr
@mrmoparrr 5 ай бұрын
😎
@mrmoparrr
@mrmoparrr 4 ай бұрын
What Sled is Quicker head to head?
@joshpitts7256
@joshpitts7256 5 ай бұрын
Kowabunga Dude!! Lots of People on that Ninja Turtle looking Ski-Don't..
@lindenmattie2023
@lindenmattie2023 5 ай бұрын
When you guys get a sled to test or do a comparo like this, how much time/effort do you put into the suspension setup? Do you set preload for your rough weights/preferences as well as play with compression settings, or mostly run them as they arrives other than clicker settings?
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Great question. We typically try and pick a good middle ground. We have a long list of people who ride these sleds, often times multiple people during a single ride. Its not realistic to re-adjust the suspension for each person during a day of riding. So we pick a middle ground setting that SHOULD work well for everyone. Is it perfect? No. But part of our job is to filter out the things the suspension isnt doing well that is BECAUSE of the middle ground settings and not count that against the sled. In a shootout like this one, we set up both sleds to be right in between AJ and my weight. Thats as far as ride height is concerned. As far as the compression/rebound settings are concerned, at the beginning of each season we set both to their fully open positions. Then as we ride we turn up the clickers until we reach a spot were happy with. They DO get adjusted each ride though so its helpful to remember where I set the clickers on a specific sled so I can reset them when I get back on after someone else has been riding it. Remember, your sled SHOULD bottom out on the BIGGEST hits. If it never bottoms out... EVER... your not using all the suspension travel you paid for. Hope that helps man.
@Mike_B_724
@Mike_B_724 5 ай бұрын
Are dealerships able to order and stock these Spring Only/Snow Check models, or are they for individual orders only?
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
I bet you'll see one or two around.
@timtorkelson7201
@timtorkelson7201 5 ай бұрын
I miss S N O W!!! Go Doo!
@shelhawke7206
@shelhawke7206 5 ай бұрын
Skidoo has always been my first choice, though I appreciate the dialog, you guys still failed to show what matters most, which one is faster ! Now get on the lake, and finish the comparison 😁
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Stay tuned!!
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately where we were testing these in March we didn’t have a safe place to run them head to head, but we have both on site this season and will do a special KZbin video in the very near future. Initially the Polaris has been quicker, actually our Switchback Boost has been the fastest sled we have this year so far, but our skidoo wasn’t out of break-in. We will make sure to put both our boosts and the 850 Turbo as well as the 900 Turbo R in the race just for interest sake. Actually we will have an XTX Sidewinder as well so might toss that in the mix too. - AJ
@bedlambikes
@bedlambikes 5 ай бұрын
@@snowtrax The video the sno-mo-world is waiting for! Kevlar Lake will never be the same!
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
I disagree that top speed matters MOST... but I agree its important. Were waiting for both the right snow conditions, and both sleds to be fully broken in before we shoot this test though. Fear not, it IS coming.
@coonlakebackwoods
@coonlakebackwoods 5 ай бұрын
Amazing sleds but wow. Do you really need that much hp/speed on the trails!?
@sethalos
@sethalos 5 ай бұрын
Now...next year bring a Lynx Rave 850 Turbo R.
@vetesnikpowersports1974
@vetesnikpowersports1974 5 ай бұрын
If ski-doo would put that Pilot R ski on this model & tighten that strap one hole tighter from the factory i think it could possibly have taken the cornering catergory.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, we all agree this skidoo is the best handling skidoo theyve made in a while. So, changing things would likely hurt its score. If I had to pick ANY skidoo sled to ride all day, it would be the turbo. Not for the motor, but for the handling.
@slick_rickmcquick387
@slick_rickmcquick387 5 ай бұрын
You are right my son and I both have 850T and he has Pilot R I have the stock Pilot X. It took me 2 corners on his to figure out the error of my ways. I bought a set of Pilot Rs last night. And we are rhe same size and weight sleds set up almost exactly the same.
@bigchaloopa
@bigchaloopa 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video 👌. Love that SKI-DOO feeling ✌. Glad you didn't compare the list of recalls 😅.
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
You want me to add the list of BRP recalls, or you just gonna pretend like they don't exist like a typical Doo queen?
@bigchaloopa
@bigchaloopa 5 ай бұрын
Hey, if it ant pooster himself. 😂. Did you say something 🤔. Oh please share the list and start that firestorm. I'm sure others will laugh after all bad press Poo has had. SnowWest even dedicates full shows on poor quality Poo. I gotta stop waisting my time here
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
@@bigchaloopa You’ll laugh because you’re not capable of accepting the truth. You won’t admit to Doo’s exploding chain cases. You won’t admit their garbage 2 piece drive shaft. You won’t comment under Muskoka’s CONTINUED issues with his 154 G5. You conveniently forget about his Freeride seizing with 34 km’s on it, and you gloss over the multiple tracks falling apart along with belts blowing up under 300 miles. ALL YOU DOO QUEENS FOCUS ON IS POLARIS. We live rent-free in your head.
@zacheckert6970
@zacheckert6970 5 ай бұрын
are they both 137s
@mikedesantis733
@mikedesantis733 5 ай бұрын
so the polaris turbo flutter noise bothers you but the launch control impresses you
@jonl2938
@jonl2938 5 ай бұрын
Both sleds are awesome, pretty fair review. However, how the heck do you boil down syrup to make sap?! Maybe I’m a bit nit picky, but as a home syrup producer when sledding season ends you’ve definitely done that metaphor backwards 😅 Cheers from North Bay guys!
@lobster1002000
@lobster1002000 5 ай бұрын
Yes its the other way 40 gallons of sap boiled down makes 1 gallon of syrup.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
When your shooting candid stuff like this, your not going to nail every comment. Were human, like you. Sometimes we get the metaphor backwards, sometimes we dont. If you dont like it... Make like a tree, and get out of here. (Biff Tannon from "Back to the Future") Lol
@WattsyID
@WattsyID 5 ай бұрын
Interested to know top speed and braking?
@bigdaddy490
@bigdaddy490 5 ай бұрын
This is no surprise. I mean brp motors are legend
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
Yes and these 2 stroke’s should be scaled up to big inline 6 and v8 for trucks with insane torque. Lightning bolts and the sun are plasma 2 stroke entities.
@chadgale9305
@chadgale9305 4 ай бұрын
By the way, u guys raze on skidoo about the bad front end. Well surprise surprise 2025 they have dramatically changed the front end with skis, spindles, A arms and shocks.
@canolando3499
@canolando3499 5 ай бұрын
The only negative is both sleds are getting way too expensive for a few month riding experience.
@Ceemysix
@Ceemysix 5 ай бұрын
Holy bejeezuz, 22K for a sled!
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 ай бұрын
Skidoo has Shot yes.. but they are the only Direct Fuel injection engines that I know of and they get a lot better fuel Economy as far as I know..
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
Ehhhh not in the mountains they don't. I know that for a fact. I dunno about the trail sleds though.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 ай бұрын
@@208SledHead on the Trails a Skidoo will go as far on a 9 gallon gas tank as Polaris and Arctic cat go in a 12 Gallon Gas tank .. I ride the same trails and routes and fill up at the same gas stations as guys with other Brands.. The Skidoo always used significantly less gas.. traveling the same distance at the same speeds on the same day . It does better than my 2006 Yamaha Attack .. which used less gas while I ride in deep snow in the Ditch while the Polaris guys rode down the middle of the road.
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
@@mikeskidmore6754 That doesn’t tell me anything though. If one person is puttin around and the others are riding aggressive, then obviously they’re gonna use more gas. If someone weighs more than the other person, they’re gonna use more fuel. But I already know what you’re gonna say so…✌🏻
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 ай бұрын
@@208SledHead I told you everything already, We were riding together in a Pack in a Group On Gravel roads with good hard pack .. I would run down the road too and we would drag race.. I was pulling away from the Polaris Sleds in a somewhat impressive Many .. This was in the Cadilac MI area.. There are no Mountains and not really much off Trail riding.. If it's beyond your Comprehension to visualize riding on the same roads and trails and maybe across a Lake or two then I guess you are just too slow to Comprehend the nature of Trail riding. We all pulled up to the same gas stations and filled up at the same time. My 4 stroke Yamaha used less gasoline than the others even though I rode in the deep snow in the ditches while they drove down the road. 4 other guys admitted that I needed less fuel at every stop .. We all weighed about the same.. My Skidoo Renegade 800 uses less gasoline than my 4 stroke Yamaha does.. that could partly be because it weighs 175 # less my Yamaha has a 136" track and my Skidoo has a 137" by 16" track .. One sled I was riding with had a 144" track with 1.75 cleats he noted that his sled was using more gas with the new track than it did in the past with 1.25 lugs.. Would you argue that a Ford F-250 Gas might not use as much gas as my Duramax 2500 HD uses in Diesel ? Oh my 88 Chevy 350 with throttle body fuel injection and headers on a really cold day got 8.8 Miles per gallon .. My Duramax gets 16 MPG pulling the same Trailer .. but maybe my stomach was more full because I ate two Hamburgers while driving the gas truck and only ate one Hamburger the day I was driving the gas truck .. It's not Rocket Science..
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
@@mikeskidmore6754 You added a helluva lot more to that second post than you did the original. You still can’t explain throttle control and you still haven’t mentioned weight - both are massive contributing factors to MPG. But I already know what you’re gonna say so spare me. Thanks👍🏻
@shavedape
@shavedape 5 ай бұрын
Great shootout and wow does the Ski-Doo make the Polaris look ugly and old so glad it's also better in the most important ways and very close in handling. In the tech section you said each has all the tech tricks but the Ski-Doo doesn't have Smart Shocks (not that it would have improved what you seemed extremely happy with due to Pro40s). But Smart Shocks is the one and likely only tech trick Ski-Doo did not have installed though it may be just as well since then you'd sacrifice Pro40s.......unless they incorporated Smart Shock technology into the larger Pro40 shocks. Unless they already do but thought they're smaller than that.
@flyin427ford
@flyin427ford 3 ай бұрын
Yup, Polaris is on a huge cosmetic FAIL with Matryx. AXYS was the pinnacle! Cant Improve on perfection so Matryx is downhill. Especially that ridiculous highlighted boomerang in the bodywork, STOP highlighting that thing and get some badass BNG back. Doo has always nailed this.
@bedlambikes
@bedlambikes 5 ай бұрын
Braking no longer of any importance when measuring performance? lol
@markfrench1410
@markfrench1410 5 ай бұрын
What’s a brake?
@bedlambikes
@bedlambikes 5 ай бұрын
@@markfrench1410 According to yellow engineering - when applied, its all or nothing!
@ericduchesne807
@ericduchesne807 4 ай бұрын
Luke is sitting much higher than A.J.. Look at the front belly height of both snowmobiles. The Skidoo's higher engine section certainly harms it on the trail. It would be necessary to measure. The Skidoo seems more geared towards the snowcross type than the flat trail.
@kwmiked
@kwmiked 5 ай бұрын
Polaris DONT TOUCH THE FOOT WELLS!!! U already ruined them by opening up the bottoms on trail sleds where feet get cold 🤦‍♂️ Ski doos open foot wells suck
@recentlyretired
@recentlyretired 5 ай бұрын
We cut and zip tied a rubber mat on foot wells, looks factory
@Justin-gh4ol
@Justin-gh4ol 5 ай бұрын
I’ll take the one with less recalls
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 ай бұрын
You can't do a Turbo sled shoot out with out a Drag race on a lake with studded tracks.. Get some one to plow two lanes on a like for you a mile long with a snow blower ..
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
yup
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Its coming. The location we shot these at was not appropriate for top speed runs. We have both here at home now. Once they are both out of break in, well shoot a top speed story.
@burnzillablue
@burnzillablue 5 ай бұрын
998 is still king of the land.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
The 1000 sdi!
@Captndarty
@Captndarty 5 ай бұрын
What if you run out of methanol? Does it just operate exactly like the mountain sleds?
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
It will still give you boost, but it will cut the boost when the temps get to high. It only uses the methanol on LONG full throttle pulls. Unless all you do is lake race, a tank of methanol will last a LONG time.
@Sledtube
@Sledtube 5 ай бұрын
It would be nice if you guys set the sleds up the same to your rider weights. Look at the a arm angles on a stock XRS sled compared to a Polaris. Of course the Polaris will be more precise in the corners when it’s a arms are flat and the ski doos are setup for moguls. It would be nice if you did a more accurate, properly setup comparison.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Its not a realistic possibility. These sleds get ridden by multiple people each ride. We set them up to be as good a compromise as possible. Part of our job is to not count things the suspension doesnt do well BECAUSE of this compromise. With that said, the XRS is SUPPOSED to be setup taller in the front. Its designed that way. It has a tall er ride height than other skidoos. It also handles WAY better than other skidoos. SO... its very likely the extra ride height is the REASON it handles better. The Lynx sits up tall as well and it handles better than any other skidoo. The Polaris is SUPPOSED to be setup with the a-arms level. There was nothign wrong with the setup on either of these sleds.
@davidpickens3117
@davidpickens3117 5 ай бұрын
Do you think that snowmobiles will eliminate the pulll cord on the different machines
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
Doo already has...for whatever reason.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
I sure hope not. The majority of the feedback we get about skidoo not having a pull cord on their sleds is negative. MOST people prefer to have it.
@billslabich6543
@billslabich6543 5 ай бұрын
It's like comparing a Hellcat vs. corvette, basically
@bedlambikes
@bedlambikes 5 ай бұрын
How? The C8 and Hellcat are wildly different. These machines are virtually the same weight, same horsepower, same acceleration and the same price. Except the Polaris handles better and has far superior braking, so kind of like the C8 Z06 I guess?
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
Both need to to go with 2 stroke DFI v8’s as the sucky 4 joke stroke has done it’s time.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 5 ай бұрын
Both need to to go with 2 stroke DFI v8’s as the sucky 4 joke stroke has done it’s time.
@dgnytro
@dgnytro 5 ай бұрын
You should be able to see what the boost is on the skidoo by holding the center area where the Smart chocks area would be on that screen. I was able to on my four stroke turbo RXRS see what I am pushing for boost battery volts stuff like thatby holding the center of the screen to change the modes
@Dixie866
@Dixie866 5 ай бұрын
the boost gauge is a % readout, not PSI unfortunately
@dgnytro
@dgnytro 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully like you said, in the future, a software update can address that
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
The sled we rode was a pre-production unit. They added that feature shortly after we shot this.
@robinkoenig
@robinkoenig 5 ай бұрын
The Ski-Doo motor is hitting 8100-8200 rpm in the video That is down over 12 HP from peak and 16.5 torque. Should be shooting for no more than 7900.
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
This was shot at 6500 feet of elevation. Its why we didnt do any top speed testing. Theyre both at an equal disadvantage (though not nearly as much as an NA sled) .
@TSmith-kg2fy
@TSmith-kg2fy 5 ай бұрын
Be careful with those sleds I'll want to buy one from you in 5-8 years. 😆😆
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
😆
@sooperdan
@sooperdan 5 ай бұрын
How does Polaris keep intake temps down if it doesn’t have a intercooler or meth injection???
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 5 ай бұрын
That's for their engineers to know.
@PatriotBrad
@PatriotBrad 5 ай бұрын
What about the skidoo maping needing a phone connected for gps to work? If thats true thats a huge technology downfall imho
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
The polaris 7S is better. But the skidoo has other technology that made for a tie in that category. You CAN download full maps onto the skidoo display for use when there is no cell signal. So its not totally useless. Just requires more planning and effort.
@PatriotBrad
@PatriotBrad 5 ай бұрын
@@pavmentsurfer13 fair enough. Im not into the tether really. Expensive if you loose it versus a simple key. If someone wants to steal a sled they will.
@1Kurgan1
@1Kurgan1 5 ай бұрын
I hope they did a drag race and are just saving it for another video. I don't think many care about one engine being more refined, more concerned with what one performs better.
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
You're generalizing and trying to suggest you know what everyone else is interested in. We will make sure to put both our boosts and the 850 Turbo as well as the 900 Turbo R in an upcoming drag race. We'll have a Sidewinder XTX too, which we'll throw in the mix...
@user-gl8cu3hh6m
@user-gl8cu3hh6m 3 ай бұрын
Can these guys sell snowmobiles or can these guys sell snowmobiles 😂
@austanhall
@austanhall 5 ай бұрын
This should of been the mach z
@user-fk2dm5oy9f
@user-fk2dm5oy9f 5 ай бұрын
I hate that fluttering sound of the turbo. Plus, I don't need a turbo for the trails since the speed limit is 50mph. 165hp on the Rotax 850 is plenty of power on my 2022 backcountry X 850.😊
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
I can help you with this.... DONT GET ONE. Problem solved. Wasnt that easy.
@user-fk2dm5oy9f
@user-fk2dm5oy9f 5 ай бұрын
@@pavmentsurfer13 I'm not interested in one.
@JDRTRM
@JDRTRM 5 ай бұрын
Skidoo by a snowflake ❄️! Which one gets better gas mileage 😮
@GenSparks
@GenSparks 5 ай бұрын
woooo 26k for a sled no thank amazing machines tho
@rogerhamilton3338
@rogerhamilton3338 5 ай бұрын
You guys said the Mach Z was crazy fast and it turned out to be a Turd. So why should we believe you about the 850 Turbo R ?????
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
You shouldn't. We are just lying to you to sell snowmobiles. Heck, we didn't even ride these and this was just shot on a set in a studio in front of a green screen. You should just get out of the sport completely and get yourself an e-bike.
@vwdiesel101
@vwdiesel101 5 ай бұрын
is this video sped up?
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
No
@flyinhighaerial3193
@flyinhighaerial3193 5 ай бұрын
Which one is faster?? shootout without speeds vs? cmon guys.
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately where we were testing these in March we didn’t have a safe place to run them head to head, but we have both on site this season and will do a special KZbin video in the very near future. Initially the Polaris has been quicker, actually our Switchback Boost has been the fastest sled we have this year so far, but our skidoo wasn’t out of break-in. We will make sure to put both our boosts and the 850 Turbo as well as the 900 Turbo R in the race just for interest sake. Actually we will have an XTX Sidewinder as well so might toss that in the mix too. - AJ
@oldmanmtb6573
@oldmanmtb6573 5 ай бұрын
NO DRAG RACE???? Let down.😢
@snowtrax
@snowtrax 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately where we were testing these in March we didn’t have a safe place to run them head to head, but we have both on site this season and will do a special KZbin video in the very near future. Initially the Polaris has been quicker, actually our Switchback Boost has been the fastest sled we have this year so far, but our skidoo wasn’t out of break-in. We will make sure to put both our boosts and the 850 Turbo as well as the 900 Turbo R in the race just for interest sake. Actually we will have an XTX Sidewinder as well so might toss that in the mix too. - AJ
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263 5 ай бұрын
I ride a GSXR 750. I would want the most aggressive monster I can rest my cheeks on.
@giligan6534
@giligan6534 5 ай бұрын
I wish someone could dial in my vr1 front end. heard so many good things about it before I bought but so far very disappointed in the twisties, take my procross front end any day over the Polaris
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
Are you trying to ride it like a procross? If you are, its not going to work as well as it should. Every sled requires different riding styles. I promise you, the Polaris front end will out handle a procross in the twisties every time.
@joelaichner3025
@joelaichner3025 5 ай бұрын
Two-Stroke Turbo Snail Sled comparison
@shawnmclaughlin7418
@shawnmclaughlin7418 5 ай бұрын
All I want to know now is who the hell runs right out and gets themselves a $400 a month payment for 60 months on one of those
@Derrek4Real
@Derrek4Real 5 ай бұрын
I work with guys who took 15 year 200 a month loans... lol 😆 🤣 😂 for the 3 times we ride that's unacceptable 🤣
@shawnmclaughlin7418
@shawnmclaughlin7418 5 ай бұрын
@@Derrek4Real wow that is nuts.
@terryattewell5842
@terryattewell5842 4 ай бұрын
But Doo is soooo ugly. Just kidding they are both monsters. Love your content as usual
@drewharris3544
@drewharris3544 5 ай бұрын
buddy of mine had 2 of the turbo rs and sold them both they are not as good as you would think. also real world for the methinal its a 100 miles to a gallon of that stuff at 35 usd ya no thank you
@robvange
@robvange 5 ай бұрын
RIGHT......................having to ad ANYTHING other than gas and 2-stroke oil is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!! METHANOL is junk.... I get Meth-free 91 octane here in NYS..... I dont even put Meth=gas in my TRUCK!
@pavmentsurfer13
@pavmentsurfer13 5 ай бұрын
We have a Competition package turbo as well and we love it. So, maybe your buddy isnt the single person the world should be listening to for advice on sleds. And, if you use a full tank of methanol in 100 miles, youve likely spent that entire 100 miles at full throttle. Methanol is only used during prolonged full throttle runs. If you ride it like most people will, a tank will last a long time. We have closer to 400 miles on our and still havent used even a 1/4... more like an 1/8 at most.
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