2024 VW ID.4 Review: Finally Good to Buy?

[@damieg82]

The Windows phone took me out 😂😂

[@AutoEsoterica]

I loved, Loved, LOVED my early Windows Phones, they were amazing. The Lumia 950 (shown in the video) was hot garbage. Thanks for commenting! - Craig

[@MirkoReinhardt]

@@AutoEsotericaBut how good is the Zune integration in the ID.4?

[@AutoEsoterica]

@@MirkoReinhardt You know that's a sore subject! 🤣

[@AceHigh45]

Over the BlackBerry?? lol

[@Lascarnn]

Interior noise is still much better (lower) compared to Tesla Model Y. I think ID.4 is really worth buying now

[@jimj2683]

I find the id4 to be the nicest in terms of seating space and position. I like how the rear bench is so high so the kids can see forwards and not get carsick.

[@JimSpence]

Motion sickness for passengers in EVs is a very under-looked issue. Until you've committed to the car, it's too late!

[@bullit199]

5:41 Actually you can hold the “REAR” button for 2secs until it flashes. When in this mode driver window up/down does all windows.

[@Demobot1]

I never understood the need to roll down the rear windows. I Mena if I need them rolled down the people in the back can do it.

[@mwahlert]

@@Demobot1children…

[@BobKlein-e3q]

I'm a new ID.4 Pro S owner. I'm really enjoying it. Agree with all the positive comments shared by others. I really like the new infotainment system. Takes time to learn, but what's the hurry? My little gripes are different. $57,000 sticker car with no garage door opener and no 360 degree camera? But that's VW/Audi for you! Oh, you can get the 360 camera in the ID.4 Pro S Plus model. The problem? It's not on the website and they don't seem to have any for sale...if they even exist. C'mon VW/Audi...it's time to stop being so cheap. These are no-brainers.

[@NewYorksFinest1]

The id4 has stopped sales. Do you know for how long?

[@jefmes]

I'm about a year in on my 2023 Pro S lease, and I'm still really enjoying it. The infotainment system does need additional improvements but if youre an Android Auto user it doesn't matter all that much. I'd definitely recommend the Pro S version though for the range - I get about 200 miles on an 80% charge, and 100% charge at 250-270 miles, which has been plenty when I have to commute (rarely, thankfully). If there arent major battery improvements by the time my lease is up in 2026, Ill likely buy out the rest and keep it.

[@michaels3003]

Major battery improvements will cost money. I see a deluge of complaints about the future prices coming...

[@drongogo]

Thank you! I didn't get, what you meant by "charger is not included"?

[@EVPulse]

A level 1/2 EVSE cord is not included with the car anymore

[@cb4675]

Would you get this or Ioniq 6 (both single motor)? Thanks

[@KingTechHD]

At Electrify America a VW id4 owner came over to my Hyundai ioniq 6 to praise how good it looks. I thanked him. We talked for a few mins about charging experiences. Seemed to love his id4. He wants the EV Hellcat next 😅 I’m getting a Rivian if they’re still a company

[@infernovideo]

Thanks for the updated review on the 2024's. You are the first person I've ever heard complain of the noise in an ID.4. Which EV's do you find to be quieter inside?

[@michaels3003]

Good question...

[@jamessankey01]

No mention of the piano black plastic or anything else on the interior?

[@usaverageguy]

I don't remember you recommending the ID4 six months ago, when you drove to all 5 great lakes. But you did give it a lot of praise.

[@AutoEsoterica]

Actually, we took a Nissan Ariya on that Great Lakes drive. I reviewed the 2023 ID.4 a few months back and found it hard to recommend, but the changes for '24 make a huge difference. Thanks! - Craig

[@usaverageguy]

@@AutoEsoterica Oh yes. You are right. My bad.

[@AutoEsoterica]

@@usaverageguy No worries. Appreciate your patronage!

[@MaxPower-11]

I would definitely stay away from the base version with the small battery given it still has the old underpowered motor and sluggish infotainment system.

[@Calipeixegato]

I'm impressed by the improvements they made. Does it have heads up display? I'm also really amused that people are so annoyed by not having 4 window switches. In the grand scheme of things, it's such a non-issue. When do you ever need to put down all four windows at the same time? And how often do you go to lower your front driver window and end up lowering the back window instead by mistake?

[@EVPulse]

It’s a non-issue for some. Other people it’s a daily occurrence. But even if it’s not something that happens often, why make the change? Was there something wrong with four window switches? In the Volvo EX30 it’s done to save space, so while annoying at least makes sense. Here? It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

I have driven my ID for over three years now and never seen this as a problem. It just works.

[@Orange_Manbaby]

@@EVPulsethe guy mentioned a problem that does exist. Accidentally lowering the back windows. Which happens a lot and is annoying.

[@infernovideo]

In Europe you can get it with HUD but not an option in North America. I've been hoping they will bring it for 2025 as well as the 86kWh battery that is available in the ID.7. Unfortunately the initial info I've read is that they are not planning any changes for 25! I hope this is wrong and they are just keeping details close as VW needs to stay competitive with a refreshed Ionq5 , EV6 and other new entrants from Chevy etc.

[@photographyisnotacrime7300]

I agree however my ID4 Pro S RWD does something funky when you switch between the front window and rear window up function. They are one press auto up but when I switch between rear and front and perform that up function the river side window actually moves down about 8-10 inches. Very odd. Well, is the 4 button a show stopper? No, not for me but I could use the four buttons though. It does not have a heads up display. I wish it would but I am rather tall and probably would not be in the proper position (too low) as many HUD's from other car manufactures are. One thing I would like to have in my 2024 is the key fob all windows up function. My VW CC had that and my golf TDI as well (Although the Golf with key in the door). I really liked that function on those cars.

[@blackchristiangeek]

We owned the 2023 VW ID.4 Pro S, and, yes, the infotainment system can be improved and the window switches are annoying. However, after a year and a half of ownership I still love the vehicle. I'm happy to answer any owner questions for this considering or fellow owners. Thanks for the review and God bless.

[@mikefreed1281]

I own one too. Very happy with the car.

[@fredyjaramillo9419]

How was winter? Did you have problems charging or battery draining?

[@blackchristiangeek]

@@fredyjaramillo9419 Both extreme cold and hot effects the battery 🔋 that said, the few folks days we had in Mississippi had less of an effect than the many days of heat waves. A few weeks ago, we took a short trip across the state and barely made it home because of extreme heat and battery drain. Thus, that was never the case in the winter, keep in mind we are in Mississippi, not New York or Colorado. Thanks for the question, God bless

[@tonyapendleton7467]

Are you happy with it? What's the longest trip you've taken? Are you in the city or burbs and do you get used to the quirks?

[@blackchristiangeek]

​@@tonyapendleton7467 Yes, I absolutely love my ID.4. The longest trip I have taken is from Jackson, MS to Austin, TX in April 2024 for the Texas Linux Fest, with 4 recharging stops (actually three, because the last one was right outside the city). And, I Have taken several trips from Jackson, MS to Dallas, TX since. We will about 15 minutes outside the city with daily comment of approximately 60 miles. Yes, I have learned to live with the quirks with some days being more frustrating than others. That said, I have yet to experience anything that made me say, "that's it!" All-in-all, I Have been very pleased with my purchase and once more, I love my ID.4. I look forward to driving my car every day. I can't imagine ever going back to a combustion (gas) engine car. Seriously. Thanks for the questions and God bless,

[@vulpixelful]

I have this model and I love it! I got the 2024 model, AWD with the larger 82kWh battery for the battery preconditioning. Other similar models had lower ground clearance and seat height, and I wanted to ride high. The capacitive buttons on the steering wheel are very responsive. Travel Assist is awesome.

[@EVPulse]

The full tax credit makes this car very interesting, and the faster charging rate of the bigger battery makes this more than capable for going on trips. Good on VW for building it Stateside. And thank you for watching and the comments :)

[@YouHaveTheRightToRemainStupid]

Thi k you mean 82kwh battery

[@vulpixelful]

@@YouHaveTheRightToRemainStupid Yep! I updated my comment. Thanks!

[@donthehypnotist3054]

I don’t believe the US version have a (heat pump), just preconditioning.

[@vulpixelful]

@@donthehypnotist3054 I have the option to start manual battery preconditioning in my infotainment system, and my car was built in Chattanooga, TN. It turns on automatically if I use the car nav, but of course I haven't needed that yet

[@NewYorksFinest1]

i'm thinking of buying the id4 pro s . should i wait for the 25 model in hopes the range is improved?

[@danlambesis1289]

That was a very interesting way to buckle up your seat belt at around the 6-minute mark. Does the car recognize that as the driver having his seat belt buckled?

[@AutoEsoterica]

Not sure, I didn't try to drive like that, but I'm sure the car wouldn't have liked it. Thanks! - Craig

[@BobbieGWhiz]

While I don’t think one should be hyper focused on EV range, my exactly 1 year old Model 3 RWD range has dropped from 273 to 263 miles. Range loss is supposed to slow over time, but I wish there was closer to 300 miles for a feeling of greater range cushion. So be careful when you hear these ranges as they are going to decline before long. (I very rarely supercharge.)

[@MrVeeBlog]

I still love the styling of the ID4. Probably would be great on a road trip. Windows phone, then you lift one up into view? bruh!. I was a huge fan back in the day. All the best

[@vulpixelful]

It is great on a road trip. It maps out chargers and preconditions the battery if needed. There's also manual preconditioning if you aren't using the in car nav to find a charger for whatever reason.

[@jason5031]

I had a 2021 model Pro S. Great looks and very usable and comfortable interior. Took it on a 1600 mile road trip. It was comfortable and quiet. The day-to-day thought was infuriating. I didn't find out until too late, no heat pump in the US, only Canada (very small print). Winter range was 180-190 miles.

[@AutoEsoterica]

I loved my early Windows Phones, especially the cyan Lumia 920. It was beautiful, ran soooooo smoothly and was built like a tank. The 950 pictured here was an abject disaster, an infuriatingly poor product. Thanks! - Craig

[@samjam6989]

​@@jason5031heat pump is not going to make a big difference. Only see like maybe 20 or 30 km range improvement with heat pump. Battery range is affected in winter regardless of havinh heat pump or not

[@jason5031]

@@samjam6989 Except that I live in a climate that gets cold in the winter. The addition of a heat pump increases range when you're not relying resistive heating. So the extra 20 miles you can save makes a difference.

[@johnshepherd2666]

Thanks.this info will guide me to a VW product...away from a Tesla 😢...still wailing for any VW ID down here in OZ😅

[@EneriGiilaan]

I honestly can't understand the fuzz about the rear window switches - all the reviewers seem to have an itch over those. I don't remember the last time I needed to operate the rear windows as the driver. If the windows need to be opened or shut it is because for someone in the rear seat - and he/she can quite well operate the windows by him/herself. And BTW no one seems to mention that if you push the selector longer then you can operate all the windows simultaneously - not that I find that particularly important either.

[@Calipeixegato]

It's almost like that has become the "cool" thing that everyone complains about without even being able to articulate why it's a problem. I have yet to see one reviewer explain WHY having 2 window switches is such a problem.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

Exactly this! It's the biggest non-issue ever.

[@christianlinke380]

Cannot agree more. Plus how often did I accidently open the rear window by clicking the wrong switch. Happened in every car (with 4 switches)I owned so far at some point.

[@EneriGiilaan]

@@christianlinke380 Heh ... didn't remember that - but has indeed also happened to me several times during the years with the four switch cars.

[@Orange_Manbaby]

Exactly this. And yes with 4 buttons you very often open the rear windows by mistake. This resolves that problem.

[@HectorCervantes]

We have been having lots of problem with GPS and the navigation system doesn’t work properly all the time, it even screws google maps on apple play. With just about 1 month having it at home we have taken it to the dealership to be told they didn’t find anything wrong on it. In terms of the car we really like it, but I think software is the main problem here

[@rwg1811]

Is the battery a lithium ion or lithium iron phosphate?

[@Orange_Manbaby]

NMC

[@rwg1811]

What is a portable charger

[@geraldh.8047]

It’s like a fixed charger except that it can be moved and put in the car.

[@michaels3003]

He misspoke. He meant L1 charging cable.

[@cmdrstevemcmaru7417]

@@michaels3003 Yes, but the L1 charging cable is included with the car, maybe he was hinting at L1/2 charging cable?

[@billmussatto2294]

does the trip planning work in the US version?

[@7motion985]

❤ your review. I am currently trying the Polestar 2. Cause I dislike Tesla

[@subninja8069]

I'm probably more likely to get one like one of these because my dad has one and he would know what to do

[@BearsinGamesNeo-qt5ww]

My WP7 LG is still the best phone I've ever used. Avatars! Achievements! Metro interface with live tiles!

[@LoveStallion]

Still can't get into the over-reliance on capacitive buttons everywhere.

[@fgerstm2069]

I got the new one. The buttons work great.

[@keithw32123]

After a year and half of driving the 2022 ID4, the buttons work fine. No issues with any it. Handles like a Porsche in turns and has jack rabbit starts. Quiet. Roomy. Good looking.

[@rodriguedouglas7880]

Do they work if you have gloves on??not to mention mitts…

[@keithw32123]

@@rodriguedouglas7880 have heated steering wheel so don't care about mitts.

[@krestdorl1697]

First time I’ve seen cabin noise in Id4 as a negative point…🤔

[@solidus784]

I must be the only owner that thinks the window switches are a great Idea. I had a 5 series previous and I dont know how many times I pulled up to the drive through and opened the rear window by mistake.

[@EVPulse]

Based on comments we’ve received, you aren’t the only owner who likes the switches. We can see some advantages in situations like you describe. We just haven’t been won over yet.

[@jayb0nd007]

You forgot to mention it include the park assist feature no human interaction to fully park the car

[@mnhsty]

If only VW would upgrade the software of earlier cars as they indicated they would when new.

[@BoricuaFez]

Always been interested in the iD4 when it came out, but the reviews and the issues I have read made me think other wise. When it comes to EVs, I am looking more at City EV cars in which the battery is between 42kWh to 44 kWh for daily commuting and going on errands around the city or town.

[@BTC909]

2025 needs to have NACS. Proper window switches. Get rid of those touch capacitive sliders. The odd column button. How about a fold flat 2nd row. Needs pricing tweaks.

[@louisjov]

What's crazy is these are laughably reasonable things to ask for.

[@Disciplemedic]

I can’t believe NACS is not already in use but good news most manufacturers are supposed to be on board starting in 2025

[@BTC909]

@@Disciplemedic Did you miss the news regarding GM?

[@michaels3003]

I think, it would be useful for owners, and would be owners, to contact the corporation instead of leaving comments around the YT.

[@BTC909]

@@michaels3003 I left a comment with Nissan before, the response was below average. Something regarding a Leaf. I also left a comment on Lexus KZbin page, I got a response. I still think whatever that vehicle was is a waste of money.

[@Jorge_Magallon]

I am complaining about a bait and switch. Who’s the guy with the flowing locks in the thumbnail? lol. Glad to hear that the ID4 is less disappointing. I kid VW. Good job.

[@gsengle]

One pedal is a feature that some auto makers think is a bad idea. I agree with them. Why do reviewers always act like it’s a a given that cars should have it? It makes generally for more car sickness in passengers and generally reduces range over intentional regen through the brake pedal.

[@EVPulse]

Early EVs had the feature and some people expect it and like having it. Some newer EVs have done away it to make it easier for people to transition. Since its software, it'd be nice to have the option to turn it on or off if you want it.

[@Orange_Manbaby]

Having stared with a dislike for one pedal driving in my Niro EV I now love it. Easier to simply brake and intuitively regen. The car sickness suggestion makes no sense as you would brake anyway.

[@Ovationhabs]

@@Orange_Manbabytest drove ID 4 and bZ4X (neither with full OPD) and my wife found it so nauseating on each one she vetoed any use of it while she was in the car (then or in future). No such comments with OPD off. And she’s never been remotely nauseated in the car in our 25 years of being together.

[@AB25a1]

Worth buying now? What exactly was wrong with it, before?

[@kevinn1158]

This is a big improvement and will impact sales of the previous versions. In fact, I wouldn't buy a used ID4 of the pervious versions.

[@rosieaddison3146]

How tall are you? My husband is very tall and center consoles hit his knee.

[@ALMX5DP]

I’m sure it’s fine, though there are a lot of really appealing options in this segment so makes it difficult to endorse.

[@samjam6989]

ID4 is better than most in terms of pricing and options imo. I take it over model Y for ride comfort and quality. Also take it over Ariya due to bigger cargo space, i would also take it over a Mach e due to ride comfort and pricing. I would take it over EV6 and Ioniq 5 or 6 due to ride height and ground clearance. Overall its a more balanced vehicle with a better value and price than many others in this segment. And the led lens, headlights and tail lights with light up logo at front and rear with light bars makes this car more unique than many EVs especially those ugly Model Ys😂. I think Nissan Ariya ans Benz EVs are the only other ones with light up badges

[@stewpid74]

You didn't talk about the annoying turn signal noise! That, along with the EXTREMELY confusing trim levels that seemed to prioritize nickel-and-diming you for small upgrades (such as power seats). These two things turned me off of the ID.4 and I ended up going with the Kona electric Limited. I don't get the tax credit, but I also don't want to break my car because of the incessant *click-click* of the turn signal.

[@Corkfish1]

Friend just bought one and the day after he brought it home the thing wouldn't start.

[@Molishious]

This seems greatly improved but I won’t consider it without a heat pump and the capacitive buttons, stupid window controls and lack of knobs are a big turn off.

[@Molishious]

@@GeeDeeBird I’m in the US and VW decided to not offer it here in spite of offering it in Europe. I happen to live in the perfect climate for a heat pump and they are fairly common in EVs so I see no reason to do without. Ford Mach E also has no heat pump.

[@tylovset]

The heat pump is really just some extra percent of range during the cooler months, when people mostly don't go on long road trips anyway. You won't save money with a heat pump due to the added car price. Get a car with higher capacity battery and/or use smaller wheels if you really need long winter range, and get the bonus of better range all year.

[@donthehypnotist3054]

@@GeeDeeBirdno heat pump in US models only Europe.

[@moreybrown870]

Unlike nearly all the vehicles in its category (sans the Model Y), you can get it with a proper tow hitch, decent tow rating (2,700lbs) and a 7-pin connector! Can't get that on a MachE or Ioniq5. With the updates, it's made it back onto my short list. But the lack of 1-pedal driving? like, WTF? Why not? I'd like a frunk, but can live without it. will it get access to NACS?

[@EVPulse]

VW has committed to NACS. But when? It's hard to say at this point with Tesla Supercharger shakeups.

[@EVPulse]

We also saw a Mach-E prototype recently with a tow bar, so maybe it's coming. We know lots of people are asking for it.

[@Hybridog]

2 things: a) Didn't know there was ever a Windows based phone, but I've never owned anything Windows based so there you go. 2) Digging the Italian style "arms out" driving position you chose.

[@amigajoe]

My favorite looking ev.

[@Orange_Manbaby]

The ID4 is now a really good package. When the ID2 is launched VW will become a force again.

[@stevekight1955]

I love my 2023 ID 4 but, then, I'm not anal about control buttons, etc.

[@mikefreed1281]

I own a '23 Pro, and the grumbling about the infotainment is a bit much. You get the hang of it very quickly. The weakest point is the "ID system" for media controls and VW's nav (which isn't great), but if you use Android Auto or Car Play, you won't be using the ID system much. Plus, they gave me a ridiculous deal on mine, which includes 3 years' free charging at EA stations. I'd love the bigger HP in the '24, but the '23 dual motor is every bit as quick as my old car - a '21 Jetta GLI. That's plenty quick enough.

[@jimj2683]

They should include the id7 seats in this car. They are much better.

[@tumbleweed1976]

Nice review. This comment is for Craig’s work not a VW 🎈

[@LarryRichelli]

The ID 4 is the slowest accelerating EV except the Chevy bolt

[@donthehypnotist3054]

I have never thought I didn’t have enough power in either my 2021 or now the 2024.

[@EvanTheTargetFan2025]

we almost bought that one

[@truthjunkie3]

Seriously didn't know how to put on seat belt? Didnt list what you didn't like before thats suddenly so much better. Prior RWD long range has the same range as the 2024 AWD, so I don't see why that wasn't sufficient before but suddenly is now.

[@EVPulse]

Don’t understand humor, eh?

[@VincentZebraitis]

WTAF??!!? Deciding to put on his belt before taking it for a test drive... he connected the driver's seatbelt to the passenger seat locking mechanism. (huh??!!?) Somewhere in that car there is a safety sensing computer module that just tried to divide by zero.

[@Shotgunanybody]

lmao

[@tomheim9516]

He didn’t drive it buckled like that (saw his reply to similar comment earlier on).

[@thiagolima5232]

perfect car

[@JimSpence]

I have a 23 ID.4 AWD ProS and a Lightning. Previously had a Model 3 and Model Y at different times. Honestly, despite these updates... avoid it like crazy. It's very comfortable and quiet, great build quality... more than either Tesla ever was (pre-update to M3). So many quirks... windshield has glass that looks warped and will give you motion sickness. Terrible infotainment. I knew this going in and didnt think I'd mind using CarPlay usually but you'll need to use it occassionally and its awful. Car turns off the second it senses you leave the driver seat. Good luck keeping climate control on for your partner, kids, pet, etc. while you run inside for an errand. Depreciation is off the charts - worse car i've had in that aspect. Tires are 2 sizes and cost a fortune. Brakes squeak like they are going out, VW service tells me they dont have ceramic pre EPA restrictions on VW and there is no factory service remedy. Weird. Could go on and on, just dont.

[@louisjov]

Heat pump, fold flat seats, and physical buttons! You aren't selling an minimalist art display, you're selling a vehicle that people will use and abuse.

[@cmdrstevemcmaru7417]

I get the ask for physical buttons, but I have the impression that those are gone forever, look at Tesla, they do have no buttons, everything is on this touch display in the middle of the console. For me, the mix of touch display and touch buttons is a good alternative, but it is just me.

[@louisjov]

@@cmdrstevemcmaru7417 agreed The touch display is nice for many things, but keeping the basic HVAC and other commonly used controls real buttons is so much better imo. I've been driving a relative's Tesla for the last two weeks, and I really wish it had some real buttons.

[@kelalamusic9258]

All well and good. One of the biggest reasons why people, in general, are not purchasing EVs is due to the high price, yet EV reviews here on KZbin keep pushing at us the highest priced model. Can you focus on the reasonably priced model rather than the ridiculously higher priced models with all the superfluous extras.

[@EVPulse]

We don't intentionally push you to the highest priced model. Review vehicles are supplied by the manufacturer (this is common industry practice, there's only like one publication that can afford to and then actually purchase every vehicle it reviews), and manufacturers will typically put higher-spec'd models in the media fleets. Sometimes there'll be a mid-grade or volume model made available, but it's not the norm. This is the same for magazine, print, and website reviews along with KZbin. The advantage to many of these EVs is being techy-focused to begin with, even the entry-level models have a lot of standard features, which Craig mentions is a good deal in his conclusions at the end of the video.

[@kelalamusic9258]

@@EVPulse I understand, but it’s really not helping to generate needed sales. They obviously want people to purchase their higher priced models forcing them Into an unaffordable debt. That is so often the case, especially when you see so many repose from buyers who purchase beyond what they afford by crafty sales staff.

[@vulpixelful]

​@@kelalamusic9258 As someone who purchased this car in the trim that I wanted, based on what I could afford, there's a responsibility on the buyer. I did my research about what features I wanted in an EV and cross-checked my list with the models. We have little computers in our pockets, you can even do it at the dealership! I'm a woman and it still didn't take a lot for me to be firm on the trim I wanted. If a salesperson is trying to get you in a vehicle you don't want, switch salespeople or go to a different dealership.

[@patrickmckowen2999]

​@@kelalamusic9258 Look at the used market, batteries are lasting a long time, so you might find a good deal as some people trade to get the lastest or just off lease. Cheers

[@joaocustodio2934]

How can we trust a review from a guy who still uses a windows phone?😂😂

[@bovineox1111]

You lost me at cubic feet measurements 🤪

[@maverickb9465]

Even Bill Gates & Jim Balsillie have moved on with the latest smartphone OS. This dude is struck in the 90s

[@paulo3564]

Expensive & Outdated.

[@kelebgadol]

Windows phone? You just lost us. UGH.

[@SuperDB215]

😂 they still make windows phones????

[@EfieldHfield_377]

$55K too expensive.

[@bojan80]

As I saw is 50k , but you getting 3k discount from VW and 7.5k government EV incentive, so come up to 40k

[@EfieldHfield_377]

@@bojan80 At 40K too expensive. The US market has made us all desensitize to the price of cars. Even after incentive, which are likely to go away, the car is still out of my reach and I think what most people can reasonably afford. VW is struggling to sell in EU for the same reason - too high. The difference is at least EU has the benefit of China options - US is stuck with highest price vehicles.

[@timvdl4819]

Windows phone ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 please move to 2024 , it was good , no one cared, get over it

[@PowellRandolph-k4c]

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[@loafs1656]

These cars are terrible

[@cmdrstevemcmaru7417]

Why? Please explain, just spitting out such comment doesn't make any sense.

[@loafs1656]

@@cmdrstevemcmaru7417 I work with them all day and they’re garbage. Nobody who goes to get trained for certifications on them ever wants to touch them. They’re too heavy and get flats all the time too and they’re impossible to move when broken down. Also the driving experience is terrible and the range on one is incredibly low. They say for id4’s not to charge the battery to 100% but only to 80% or else the longevity of the battery will be at stake. They do that while advertising the miles per charge based on 100% charge. They depreciate like crazy and drive people’s energy bills up, and most importantly I’ve never met someone who owned one who actually liked it. It’s not a senseless comment it’s just a bad car

[@Shotgunanybody]

@@loafs1656 Your unbelievably biased and it sounds like you just don't like ev's. For one, EVERY manufacturer who uses the battery type in the id4 says to charge to 80% for longevity purposes but gives a range to 100%. Shit if you want to charge to 100% all the time knock yourself out. All ev's depreciate like crazy and they ALWAYS WILL. Its the nature of technology particularly with battery tech always changing. As for driving your bills up, I have a chevy bolt and yes it drives up your electric bill but hey! your not paying for gas! and if you look at gas costs vs electric costs its cheaper to charge your ev even if its more often then it is to run your gas car especially if you drive alot. Overall, keep your opinion to yourself and if you dont like ev's dont work on them and don't watch videos on them.

[@loafs1656]

@@Shotgunanybody you sir should keep your opinions to yourself😂. And you shouldn’t say things that aren’t true. Gas is still cheaper now than an electric bill with an ev. It also takes 3 minutes and not 12 hours😂. I don’t care if you like the id4 or whatever but everyone I know with one regrets it unless they’re under a 1 year lease. Most importantly I’m talking about problems with the car, you’re talking about your feelings which if you love the car ignore me. People who are on the fence should know what it means to own an ev before they buy one and that’s the cause of their regret

[@tomheim9516]

@@loafs1656 And you sir, shouldn’t say things that aren’t true. It is less expensive to charge an EV than to buy gasoline for the same distance travelled. And the three minutes to fill a gas tank is done at a pump, not at home. No one spends 12 hours at a public charge station, more like 20-30 minutes which gets you plenty of range to get gome and charge overnight. When that 12 hours you’re complaining about is spent sleeping. You’re clearly biased against all EVs.

[@daniel0223-i8s]

worst ev ever..

[@keithw32123]

One of the best EVs and getting better. 2022 ID4 AWD Pro S.

[@akmalfahmimdamin-250]

so.. its an Electric Tiguan, not bad 🦥