2025 Four Winds 19Z | No Slide | More Room Than A Van | RV Review

[@rh8152]

This was perfect for me and my husband until I looked it up online. $122,700! That's insane!

[@timmuller1567]

Thats pretty cheap actually. I was guessing it would list for close to $200,000.

[@MMacAttack]

$122k ??? Hard pass

[@glampergirl4495]

Too much $$$

[@jeanne8507]

Never pay MSRP. Expect to get 25-35% off the MSRP. You have to be willing to haggle. You also have to be willing to walk away (like I did), if they won’t haggle.

[@harryknutts8428]

Id pay 70

[@barbarabuford5795]

THIS is now my fav RV, ..on my senior Wishlist! I especially love the 2 door fridge- more Grub, ♥️ the storage and the length! I have driven a 19 foot U haul truck for moving, so This 20ft 4 in RV 'Does Not' intimidate me- comfortable with the length, DOABLE For Seniors! THX 👏♥️👍

[@donaldfrazier5244]

So buy a used ex uhaul and build your own RV for less than half the price and twice the quantity!

[@cmharris67]

So glad a manufacturer brought these back. Can totally see someone lifting this or making it 4x4.

[@garydanter4543]

wished they would not build such a long over cab sleeper, for better wind deflection

[@cmharris67]

@@garydanter4543 I thought about that too. They look so old fashioned but if you’re a couple you kinda need it.

[@stanw909]

This motorhome would get shaken apart on dirt roads. Better off with 4X4 pickup and camper.

[@eugeneparzek3901]

Your speed and time line explaining the features was perfect. Not too long to bore me. I stayed all the way to the end. Excellent presentation and was impressed all the way around 👍

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Thanks for watching and your comment! Stay in touch with any questions you may have.

[@loriking2113]

Exactly!

[@kjkayjay]

Wow someone is finally making this size again that isn't a rental! I may have to rethink my plans.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

We heard feedback like yours and wanted to deliver for you. Please let us know if you have any questions.

[@stevemurray2737]

RV without a Slide! The entire industry breathes a sigh of relief. Get rid of them. They don’t work.

[@hmmm2564]

Says you

[@hmmm2564]

Says you

[@Tungoon]

Nothing but a place to leak !

[@bahahahaha8217]

Speak for yourself. Just say you cant maintain basic upkeep and maintenance of the slide. Dont bring everyone down to your level.

[@luigiprovencher]

​@@bahahahaha8217 It's not that he can't. Why would he want to?

[@barbarabuford5795]

Why, This is PERFECT! I could Live in this, it has it all! I love the idea of the dinette, I can see myself parked, looking outside- beautiful panoramic windows, enjoying the weather! And the kitchen has it All! Never thought I'd like wet baths, but that's doable with the 'sink' and mirror, just need some hooks for the interior door for towels, place a metal shelf in there for body wash, deoderant, toothbrush, etc. And GOT to add Solar! Oh how my grandson would love the Cabover bed, SO CUTE! THOR, You Know you've done it Again! THX 👍♥️✌️

[@barbarabuford5795]

P.S. It looks like another person could get in the Cab over, so sleeps '4'!

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. Thanks for watching and your comment. Stay in touch if there's anything we can do to help.

[@taurusview9]

You nailed it, this was missing in US market. If this had lithium instead of gas generator, would have for sure considered it!

[@debbieschwartz1038]

This size is exactly what I've been waiting for.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Thanks for watching and your comment. We heard this from many people and wanted to deliver for you all in a big way. Please stay in touch if we can help you with anything.

[@ladavis1959]

Look at the older Toyota Dolphins they are great when you can find them at a good price in good shape Most have been well loved.

[@WilliamGullett-k3c]

​@@ThorMotorCoachwould a person be crazy to see their condo and buy this to live in?

[@teresavale2517]

U walked right past that Nice,Large Fridge!!!

[@JohnathanB-w5n]

MSRP from $122,700 You can outfit a high top cheaper and have more solar than you'd ever use...

[@Pnanasnoic]

Should be half that

[@alesiayoung2160]

My heart just sank at that price!

[@CC-kq8hf]

Not to mention a diy build would likely be a lot sturdier than these. They all seem so poorly made with cheap materials and tiny screws etc.

[@rygguy88888]

It’s msrp, if you know rvs you know that means nothing. Will be on lots for 69,999

[@JohnathanB-w5n]

@@rygguy88888 IF YOU know RV's ? It rolls off the lot and it's now worth 1/2 of that 70K. What are you doing? Girl math???

[@HN-oq3gf]

this one is just perfect for 2 people.

[@celestepalm6949]

Yeah, 3 people is pushing it, really, even if the third's a kid.

[@anonymousdevildog1406]

$122,700 folks. You can buy many acres in many states for this AND put a small house on it. Don't do it. I'd pay 60-75k for this max.

[@joinjen3854]

The small house......doesn't MOVE. You do the " stay in 1 location. ". Nomads want the Adventure.

[@lukeweyant-d1k]

For 122k? Name me one state that aint swampland…

[@charofheart37]

6 foot tall can fit in that wetbath, yes! The sleep across, finally for 6 footers! My favorite is not slideout but so much turn space!! Thank you thank you, no longer built for shorties and stick folks. 😄❤️👍🏽💯

[@massimoalampi7009]

A classic RV like in the good old days, airy and well thought out without the need for unnecessary and wasteful contrivances. It would be time to return to this school here in Europe as well, where by now virtually all RVs are made from the same mold.

[@johnskelton5683]

I wish you had talked about the refrigerator! 😮

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Thank you for watching and your comment. We currently use a 7.5 cubic foot, 12V refrigerator from Contoure in the 19Z. Is there any other information you'd like to know about it? We're happy to help in any way we can, just let us know.

[@shelleys1872]

Okay this is so adorable. I want it!!!

[@ginnyk50]

Lol this reminds me of the little Toyota campers they had in the 1970s, I wanted one so bad but bought a mustang instead 🤣. They’ve gotten so big and fancy now. Full circle.

[@JulianaBlewett]

Seats four but sleeps three. Wow, what a concept.

[@Patty747]

Love it but would prefer more solar panels on the roof and a lithium battery bank in place of a gas generator.

[@JD-xo3xz]

Agree. These RV manufacturers are out of touch with what customers need/want. They are still trying to get rid of all the old stuff nobody wants.

[@fastdude2002]

I have solar panels on my RVs roof and they don’t do much when camping for the very fact that we always park in the shade under the trees, redwoods when camping here in sunny, hot California. Who wants to park in the direct sun at 100 plus degrees during the summer. Park in the sun and you will need a generator to run your A/C all day long to survive. I like solar but it’s not always going to keep you powered. Winter also not much sun so I have a backup generator.

[@Patty747]

@@fastdude2002 I park in campgrounds under the trees, but when boondocking I am usually in a parking lot somewhere and have open sky.

[@fastdude2002]

@@Patty747 I see your point. I personally don’t boondock in parking lots, we just go to campgrounds that we can get to in one day. I have solar and lithium batteries but at times need the generator if it’s not going to disturb my camping neighbors.

[@CindyinArizona]

Nope, would prefer the gas generator, solar is too unpredictable....rain, clouds, shade, etc.

[@williamanthony5021]

THE NINETEEN Z RULES. ROCKS MY BOAT PERFECTLY

[@ericmyers1306]

We have a 21QB Coachmen without a slide and love it. For a couple, you really don't need anything more.

[@WilliamGullett-k3c]

Would a single guy be crazy to sell the condo and live in that?

[@DaveInCanada081]

Im glad this has dually rear end. I like the other floor plan

[@janjones4224]

This is the cutest motorhome I've ever seen, Love Love it! Thank you for sharing. I would love one of these.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

We would be happy to help you get one. Let us know if you have any questions.

[@1hackmodeller557]

Nice! That's what we need!

[@ThorMotorCoach]

We love to hear that. Let us know if you have any questions. You can find all the information on this with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec

[@gregjo5141]

I like it it's just the right size for me.

[@PJSmith-sn1sf]

Build this cool rig on a Chevy cutaway chassis and with an aerodynamic cab over, far superior to Class B. The cab over is big giveaway to HOA winers who hate RVs. Great job Thor!

[@DonFarmer-hq5sw]

The rear dinette was a complete waste of space 😮 $122,000 dollars 💸. Hell Naw

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Thanks for watching and your comment. We have two other floor plans that might be of interest to you in the 21Z and 22Z. You can view those on our site. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec Stay in touch with any questions you may have.

[@GodBless-pc6sx]

Anything under 100k do you have it?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning, @@GodBless-pc6sx! Thank you for your question. Retail sale price is set by each individual dealership and typically you'll find it anywhere from 20-25% below MSRP.

[@rygguy88888]

Msrp is not retail, will be 69,999

[@MINT_TENT]

Way overpriced

[@Dave-zl2ky]

I liked Four Winds before Thor. Great size.

[@arlenesterling6782]

Love this.. absolutely wanted a small rv like this❤

[@janicesullivan8942]

Nice, perfect for NASCAR events.

[@celestepalm6949]

Love the layout. Just wish they could somehow option in a dry bath. A wet bath is a _dealbreaker_ for most women.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you for watching and your comment. The 21Z or 22Z might be more your liking. They are slightly bigger, but with that additional space have the traditional bath you're interested in. Those can be viewed on our website with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec Please let us know if you have any questions.

[@celestepalm6949]

@@ThorMotorCoach Thanks but I'm here because I _love_ the rear dinette floorplan of the 19Z. Just _one_ change from wet to dry bath would make it perfect for most ladies. I appreciate your time & feedback.

[@rygguy88888]

@@celestepalm6949it’s a challenge but I would choose storage, larger refrigerator and lighter weight vs a dry bath. Can’t have it all but this seems really optimized for rv needs

[@donwhitehead4587]

Now you’re talking, Thor

[@8880039]

Amazing Floor Plan and Size

[@tjjump6343]

Not bad. Bigger than a van yes, but still couldn't park it in your driveway with my hos, but you know what I can park? my van. Stealthy is why people do vans over class c's. Still a nice floorplan.

[@Desperado3248]

Depends where you live

[@jocelynb8935]

If it wasn’t for my 2 cats I’d love to get this sized rig. I got a 25 ft one to accommodate the litter box and extra room for the kitties.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

We love our furry friends and totally understand doing what needs to be done to take care of them. Thanks for watching and stay in touch if we can help in any way.

[@shelleys1872]

Which make and model do you have? I have a cat and would love to travel

[@jocelynb8935]

I got a majestic 23U a retired cruise America. If u research and get an RV inspection and don’t mind doing some DIY upgrades this can be a solid rv for a decent price.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning, @@shelleys1872. You will find all of the brands and floor plans we build here at Thor Motor Coach on our website by using the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@4vinylsound]

Does the plastic carrot come with the rv?

[@youdandee1]

Slides are Very Nice but just more to go wrong in the long run

[@Super_C_Chows]

Small RV.... HUGE carrot 🥕 😁

[@notconvincedgranny6573]

As long as the build quality is there.

[@lynnmorin9771]

Love this it’s perfect

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Please let us know if there's anything we can help you out with.

[@MrSirlulzalot]

I'll keep this one in mind for when I become rich. ❤

[@patricialmt5272]

The under-the-cap bunk should be able to drop. That would be fantastic.

[@peckerpeter2078]

1st off brilliant to do No slides, All slides leak all have problems no matter what manufacturer. No slides will be the future! 2nd love the smaller size, can park in any parking spot that’s huge when traveling!! Should put it in the 13-14mpg with conservative driving 62mph highway speed. This is perfect for solo or a family of 3 very comfortable. Not liking a wet bathroom tho.

[@MiscName1493]

Love the design...very nice...but price not so much.

[@abigailandino6251]

5:16 I would use it for storage, unless I had a young guess. I would break my forehead in that bed 😂

[@mateocafe45]

I love the small compact size! And it isn't a B van! Thank goodness!

[@LilyDrew-q1d]

Extremely nice!

[@ujointoffroad]

Even better with our 4x4 conversion 😉😉

[@jeremysautomobile]

This looks pretty awesome. I'd buy one 2 years old for a steep discount after it's had all of the bugs worked out

[@Desperado3248]

Looks like someone is looking to tap into the market of weekend and day trip rv people, not full timers, not looking to spend as much as a second home. This works for couples, small families, grandparents and a couple of grandkids, first time buyers

[@ThorMotorCoach]

We heard from consumers and wanted to come through for them in a big way. We think we did just that with the E Spec lineup. You can view all the information on the 19Z and other floor plans by using the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec

[@patriotronin7098]

Got to have a slide out to be perfect.

[@beckyjohnstone1610]

Price?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good afternoon! Thank you for your time and your question. The MSRP on this unit is $122,700. You'll find that along with the rest of the information on this coach with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec Please stay in touch with any other questions.

[@marciaricksgers2018]

Yikes, nope

[@MattMorris481]

7.3 liter gas V8 you better have the Exxon Valdez following you around.

[@merc88]

you will be surprised on the road... itdoesnt have to work as hard.

[@denisemendoza4277]

What is the weight capacity on the over cab bed no one ever talks about that and I can't find out what mine is on my 1992 Damon hornet. Hopefully you are still reading the comments and maybe you can help me I don't know?

[@jeanne8507]

Hi! I saw his answer on another comment. The overhead capacity is 800 pounds!

[@DisabledNomads]

How long before the vinyl starts peeling off the furniture?

[@JD-xo3xz]

and the laminate countertops separating, and the stapled and glued walls loosening.......

[@SassiBerri]

Sooner than expected.

[@ladylex16]

been waiting for this one!

[@Newbomb_Turks_Punch]

Wish we could afford something like this and travel more 😢

[@leslietolmie4184]

Wish it had a cassette toilet and more fresh water, but not bad.

[@CindyinArizona]

What is the overhead bunk capacity? What material is on the roof?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Thank you for watching and your question. The cabover bunk has a 800lbs limit. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@CindyinArizona]

@@ThorMotorCoach That's an impressive weight capacity which should have been mentioned.

[@zapinflapegido2775]

I really like this small class c. It is too bad that we do not know where the water tanks and plumbing are located. I live in Quebec and winters get really cold. So I would need it to be in working order for our winters. It is my favorite floor plan so far, and perfect size.

[@Heidi914]

Ok it looks to me like the rear back window would be the headboard area, not the side of the RB. Which making the back the headboard would give you more bed length, correct? Especially if you kick off the cushions you weren’t laying on.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. The bed is designed to be laid on as Steve showed in the video. It runs head to toe across the coach from side to side, not front to back. I hope that helps out. You may use the link below to find all the details on this great unit. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec/floor-plans/19z Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@Desperado3248]

I thought the same

[@PamShortt]

Tiny home. I like it.

[@cjhoward409]

We’ll buy a sprinter van and make our own rv out of it

[@mixflip]

I wish they would make a version of this with a Chevy V8 for us Chevy fans.

[@CindyinArizona]

What is the roof material?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. The roof is a TPO Crossflex membrane. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@jasonlovell3934]

Should be on the e 450 chassis and does it have the 7.3? This is what is needed to haul a jeep or race car on a trailer which is what is missing in the rv market.

[@easternbiker47]

Did you not watch the video at all? Yes it is the 7.3

[@Desperado3248]

What about the construction of the outside and roof? It is a leaker, or is it made to prevent them?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! All of our units are engineered for years of worry free use. There is routine maintenance that needs to be done on any RV to protect your investment.

[@eradicator187]

Will in fall apart in 5 years like all the others?

[@SassiBerri]

No, after 5 months it will start to.

[@campbell9439]

Price? Can’t find any in stock, is it available yet?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good afternoon, thank you for watching and your comment. This is just being released now at the annual dealer open house. You will start seeing them on dealer lots as orders come in for them. MSRP is $122,700 for this particular coach. You can view that along with an abundance of other information with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@LizDev0306]

Quand sous dites 122,700$ c’est le prix US en CAN ? Ça change la donne car tres cher, pour un classe C

[@operationhotshotinc.6887]

How many seatbelts total ?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. Thank you for watching and your question. The 19Z has 4 seat belts. That will be shown on our website along with an abundance of other helpful information by using the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec/floor-plans/19z

[@LorrieMarchael]

Loved it I would live in that. That over cab bunk would be great storage also. Love no slide. Love colors so modern. Love that nice bed. I would leave it as a bed and get a add a room tent to the awning for sitting out. Wet bath is fine but I would want a compost toilet that black tank is way to small. I thought for sure they would say 89,000 and I think this would be the one for me but not 122,000 darn I thought I finally found my home

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you so much for watching and your comment. Please stay in touch with any questions you may have.

[@jenniferhuffman1835]

Will Thor bring back the floor plan of the19G? Love that one.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Hi Jennifer! Thanks for watching and your comment. Right now we have the 19Z, 21Z and 22Z. At this point in time there are no immediate plans to make any changes. You can view all those floor plans on our website with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec Please keep your questions coming.

[@jennifire2801]

Love it❤❤❤❤

[@barto9458]

Any refrigeration?? How about showing it?? I take it the TV swings out and locks in place? Does it have any heat in case it gets cold?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you for watching and your comment. The unit is a fully built out motor home and comes with all the necessities. It has an A/C, a furnace, a full kitchen. You will be able to view all the details on our website by using the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec/floor-plans/19z Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@MommaT1970]

Do you still make these with the rear corner kitchen option?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! We offer many different floor plans and those can be viewed at www.thormotorcoach.com. We do not currently have a rear kitchen in the Four Winds.

[@nickjones2923]

A wet bath and no slide...give your head a shake....the only RV to buy in this size is the Phoenix 2100 with Quigley 4WD and Liquid Spring...far more expensive and a much better vehicle.

[@artsteadman2230]

@nickjones2923 to each their own

[@tomsweeney8433]

how much

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thanks for watching and your question. The 19Z comes with a MSRP of $122,700. You will find this along with an abundance of other information on our website with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@bob-j1t]

you need to put up front its fuel mileage per gallon? like it get 3.5 miles per gallon!

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you for watching and your comment. Fuel mileage will vary based upon how the coach is loaded, what if anything is being towed, person driving habits, the type of terrain being driven on and how the chassis has been maintained.

[@Desperado3248]

First rear bed should have tv . Next the bathroom is big enough to be a dry bath. Front tv should be smaller and this tv should be in back to view in bed or while sitting around rear table

[@phillipthrasher6812]

Were you buy these RVs at I'm in Anderson South Carolina and they don't have none of Anderson South Carolina

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. Your closest Four Winds dealer to Anderson, SC is: Blue Compass RV 302 S. Main Street Duncan, SC 29334 864-433-0887 You may search for other dealers by using the dealer locator on our website. www.thormotorcoach.com/locate-a-dealer Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@gfayecox]

Would love to have one.

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! We'd love to help you in the process. Please let us know if you have any questions.

[@Desperado3248]

Looks like 2 kids could sleep up top. Would line a cassette toilet option. Not bad

[@shannonburke7346]

Great love it

[@dirgesinthedark5637]

You dsont look very tall. Can 6'2' stretch out?

[@jeanne8507]

He is 6 feet 1/2 inch tall. It looks like 6’2” would fit, maybe a little snugly.

[@louisaisthankful6455]

Fridge details?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you for your question. The refrigerator we are currently using is a 12V, 7.5 cubic foot double door Contoure refrigerator. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@pegatheetoo1437]

The one thing I don't like about some wet baths is there is no place to put your clothing.

[@adreanadotson4621]

I am in love ❤️

[@craiginker6732]

I wish the storage compartments were bigger. I like to take a weber Joe mini charcoal bbq. Not sure where I could store it on here. Maybe the Wet Bath? Although will get dirty

[@lucillehjort971]

Is there storage under the booth seats?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. Thank you for watching and your question. You will find some electrical and plumbing items under the dinette. However, there is some open space as well.

[@Ryan-u5f]

Wonder what the wheelbase length is

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you for your question. The wheel base is 11' 6". You'll find this on our website for each coach we build and for this awesome 19Z, the link below will provide you all the details. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec/floor-plans/19z Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@The.Real.Timmii]

dual powered fridge would be good

[@emeraldhaze]

Dear Santa, ❤🎅

[@ThorMotorCoach]

The perfect gift under the tree! Let us know if you have any questions we may help you with.

[@bassmonk2920]

Copying the Euro style without any euro style

[@annewhite5445]

How many seat belts for travel

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning. This unit comes with 4 seatbelts. You will find that along with an abundance of other information using the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec/floor-plans/19z Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@annewhite5445]

@@ThorMotorCoachare there four seat belts in dinette plus two in driver front, with a total of 6 seat belts?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Hi, @@annewhite5445. There are a total of 4 seat belts in the coach. 2 in the dinette and 2 in the cab. The link below will show you the location of those belts. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec/floor-plans/19z

[@amiralions2681]

That overhead bunk is huge, making the coach hard to handle in high winds. Why don't US manufacturers go with the drop down bed like the one in the Wingamm or the one that was in the Itasca?

[@brucekim7614]

Does this have inverter?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning and thank you for watching. There is no inverter installed from the factory on this particular coach. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

[@LoLoLibra1]

My dream!

[@drdeliciousful]

Do any of the seatbelts in the back have car seat tethers?

[@ThorMotorCoach]

Good morning! Thank you for your question. There are not any tethers in this particular floor plan. You will find tethers in the 21Z and the 22Z. You can view those floor plans and all the information on the ESpec series with the link below. www.thormotorcoach.com/four-winds-espec

[@Tungoon]

All under 20 Grand now that’s a camper I can afford !

[@jeanne8507]

I’m sorry. I think you misunderstood something. This RV does not cost less than $20,000. The MSRP is over $120,000.