2025 Polaris Patriot 9R Indy XCR 136 Detailed Overview

[@gregsouther7293]

Nice to see a Polaris 900 that is not a pile of junk. I was working in the service department of a Polaris dealer when the Fusion’s came out. All of us hated life back then.

[@jakeradcliff7691]

Just give it time. Im sure it'll have an issue or 2

[@oldslow3694]

if you were a good dealer, you could make that pile of junk run lol

[@208SledHead]

The motor is solid. The clutch on the other hand...@@jakeradcliff7691

[@kwmiked]

Guess u haven't been up on the mnt sled 900s for last 2 yrs 🤦‍♂️ still a pile of junk

[@kwmiked]

If Polaris was confident of this motor in a trail sled it would have the 4yr warranty for snowcheck..it has 2yr, and it's 2400$ more. Not worth it imo. I'd rather take that money and put it into shocks since those Walker Evans are a pile of garbage. That mod right there will make a 850 better then 9r

[@Hesled_shesled]

This is going to be a trail weapon

[@happyindeed6392]

Thanks for being positive. Polaris builds some amazing sleds right now.

[@bedlambikes]

Luke - thanks so much for taking some time to discuss braking! When riding at the limits of what a snowmobile is capable of, braking plays such an important role and nothing comes even close to the incredible amount of feedback the Polaris brakes has to offer!

[@pavmentsurfer13]

%100 agree.

[@jdxjim]

POLARIS---- Simply the best in the business right now---Engine and suspension are tops. No Wonder why their sales are so strong and such excitement for POLARIS SLEDS.

[@kwmiked]

Lol stop it

[@musicman6887]

Engine and suspension are tops lol. The 9r has been a POS since it came out and those walker evans have never been good

[@wasupfool5692]

They have about 1/2 the market share as Ski Doo

[@huronv9500]

Yes, that windshield looks so much better than the really short one.

[@squishmaster]

Just picked up my 70th anniversary edition cantbwait for snow ya polairs is the beat in industry

[@Lynxrave23]

Congrats hope you enjoy that sexy beast

[@ijimmythekid6918]

Another excellent intro video of a new model, Mr. Lester, thank you. I've sensed your enthusiasm previously on newly introduced sleds to the market, though, I don't think I've ever seen you this enthusiastic over any previous sled. Must be nice to already have snow to ride on. Kidding!! I'm guessing this was filmed at the end of last winter. All the best to you, AJ, and Mark, keep up the excellent work and thanks again for providing all of the informational videos on a sport that I have loved for over 40 years. Michigan loves you fellas!

[@snowtrax]

Thank you!! Yes, this was filmed in March.

[@thepatriot153]

Great video as always! I love my XCR 850, I predict they’ll have an XCR 9R with dynamix for 2026, I’ll wait for that one. Thanks for the effort you and your family and staff make to provide all this information on winter and summer toys. Tough Job, LOL, someone has to do it. You are the reason I bought my XCR ! It’s Amazing! Enjoy!!!

[@D3thM3tal]

I hope they bring the Dynamix to the XC9R - that'll be my pick too!

[@kwmiked]

Dynamics is nothing special, it wasn't that good in the RZR, still needed a grand worth of springs and another grand worth of valving in the shocks to make them how they should've come from Factory. Why people hype up this stuff before the public gets to ride them and put thru paces is beyond me. It give others the false impression to buy it

[@pavmentsurfer13]

@@kwmiked You need to just move on man. Your comments arent appreciated and its absolutely %100 clear that you simply hate polaris. Get over it.

[@pavmentsurfer13]

I hope they do. And your welcome man. Thanks for the kind words. It IS a tough job. Lol... nah. Not really. Im super blessed to be able to do what I do and I never take it for granted. But its because of people like you that I love my job.

[@jessebuchman6744]

Great video Luke! The sound of the Polaris brake is incredible. Sounds the exact same now as it did with my 2000 Polaris 700 XC Deluxe. Super excited to try the 9R for next season!

[@pajamatime5750]

The 2000 XC Deluxe - 45th anniversary edition? I had the 600 that year. Loved that sled!

[@jessebuchman6744]

@pajamatime5750 one of my favourite sleds! Yup the red 45th anniversary editiom

[@pajamatime5750]

@@jessebuchman6744 That’s awesome. Great memories on that sled! Take care

[@djg1028]

XCR with dynamics hopefully next year for 2026 model year would be sled of the year. Hope Polaris brings it to XCR.

[@3man035]

great video!!! keep up the good work. im convinced. i have one on spring order

[@nunzioiacobellis453]

great video and review of what will be sure to be a very popular sled for 2025 and a trail weapon no doubt.

[@jasonfreake9020]

Awesome video Luke thanks!!

[@snomofilms]

I always use protection. I run big windshields. 💨

[@Allout2321]

I have a 23 VR1 boost and after riding it for the past 2 seasons I believe the VR1 needs a shock upgrade. The XCR may not need the Boost but the Boost does need the XCR. Was hoping for that combination this year.

[@pavmentsurfer13]

Lol... I like how you put that. If you do get a chance to ride the 9R, you wont want a boost anymore. Unless you live at altitude. Then youll want to stick with the boost.

[@markchartrand9682]

Answered my question cheers

[@reidmcnabb818]

Nice Video Luke, pretty sure I saw you a few weeks ago at Moose Winooski's in Kitchener. You were walking in as we were leaving lol

[@CameronYandt]

As someone shopping the used market. Would you suggest getting a higher package 850 Axys chassis over a lower package matryx for same dollar?

[@davidkolisnek6601]

I would axys ride beautiful because a little longer and flatter Matryx you slide to the tank more so put on knee and tank pads helped lots

[@pavmentsurfer13]

Man, great question. And hard to answer. The Axys is still a fantastic sled... STILL better that most. But the matrix is just a step above. Id say go matrix... you can always upgrade the shocks later if you want, and, in reality, thats the biggest difference from a mechanical standpoint between the different models.

[@backcountrysteve7704]

Luke I watched two episodes of you on the nine r. the first episode you had was the gray and chartreuse or lime, yellow XCR the day after they came out and now I just watched the black and gray one that you were on. One question, Polaris ⭐️ was stupid not to let you pick your tracks this year and the gray and yellow one has the 1.6 inch track and the black and gray one comes with the 1.35 inch track. I was wondering if you noticed the difference?

[@jodypierson3137]

Totally agree, I have a 23 xcr 850 that has the 1.35 it’s a 128 you get basically 0 traction, I put 102 studs in it and that made a huge difference, If I got another it would definitely have to be the 1.6 I wanted the 9r this year but I’m not to fond of the colors myself

[@pavmentsurfer13]

For a 9R id go 1.6... unless you live in an area that gets sketchy snow. The 9R needs all the traction it can get. I would always choose a pre-studded track if i could thought.

[@wadewierzba1654]

Are you gonna compare it against the 858

[@snowtrax]

Yes!

[@jakeradcliff7691]

​@snowtrax So do you guys think they fall in the same category?

[@pavmentsurfer13]

@@jakeradcliff7691 No. The 858 is an 850 class sled. The 9R is a step above any NA 850 on the market.

[@jakeradcliff7691]

@pavmentsurfer13 I understand that. Go watch the snowest podcast where the polaris guro himself compares it to the 9R that snowest actually has. Says he compares it more to w 9r and that its gonna blow the other 850s out of the water

[@topJimmyP1984]

Nice sled! it would be helpful if you listed the specs for a few seconds at the end. Thx

[@pavmentsurfer13]

We'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks.

[@jamesklopotic8646]

When you say naturally aspirated does that mean it's carbed or is it still fuel injection with throttle bodies?

[@kylecarter18]

Still fuel injection, naturally aspirated means it isn’t turbocharged

[@djg1028]

Was it still in break in when u rode it? How many miles on it when u rode

[@snowtrax]

It was still pretty new.

[@ajbertelson9871]

its interesting that the the VR1 has dynamix and boost XCR has hi/lo speeds and 9r

[@kwmiked]

For the money difference form a 850, you'd be better off with a boost. Your still going to have to clutch this sled as well as Boost, Probably tune it case Polaris is gonna have the safteys set low on these so they fall on face after 2,3,4 back to back hard pulls just like the 21,22,23 850s did to prevent people from blowing them up. So at that point u can get a bit more power outa a boost with clutching and a tune vs 9r. Don't get me wrong it's cool, UT the price tag and hp kill it vs the same money getting a boost

[@pavmentsurfer13]

I think it was the right decision to keep the boost in the VR1 and the 9R in the XCR... but I think they should offer Dynamics on both. It just works so well. It could have stiffer base settings in the XCR but XCR riders would still benefit from it. Most XCR riders dont pound bumps at full throttle all day anyway. Thought dynamics did seem to help with that type of riding on the VR1

[@Mainecat21]

Anyone know the hp and tq numbers for the 9R?

[@snowtrax]

We're doing the mental math at like 170-175-ish in around there. Would like to get it on a Dyno ourselves and verify.

[@joshgessinger4509]

Dynotech research dyno’d 2 9R’s. 170hp 110fpt. 850 Polaris 160-167hp 100-110fpt 2 different 850’s one was more powerful than other. Doo 850 164-169hp 108-111.6fpt Again a couple different sleds made different power. 858 167hp 112fpt Broader power-band than 850’s on graph. Haven’t saw a dyno graph with 858 with 9R but looking at numbers very close. 858 only had 100 miles so wasn’t broke in yet either. Id have to go back and look if 9rs were broke in don’t remember but the 850’s were broke in. If u like to look at dyno numbers and performance parts and gains id highly recommend subscribing to dynotech research I have a blast looking lol!! $35 a year its totally worth it.

[@snomofilms]

Jealous of that snow we didn’t get any of. 😢not a single ride this season for me

[@davidkolisnek6601]

Yes got one in for 38 miles 😢

[@haydenrichardp3712]

I always hear how quick engines rev. I suppose clutching has nothing to do with that according to you guys.

[@scottlincoln6286]

nice sled

[@joshgessinger4509]

dynotech research reports 170hp 110fpt at sea level after break in. Not even close to the turbos on dyno. Haven’t rode one so cant say how it feels not bashing polaris iv not had enough time on one to judge. But iv seen 850 Polaris dyno out at 160-167hp 105-110fpt after break in. There’s the rumor that the 9r cranks not holding up. Just a rumor or true has anyone experienced this out there let us know. I do know lots of updates on polaris again in 2024 one being the primary clutches not holding up. Im a cat guy also hear rumors about cats some true some not so not stating facts here. The dyno numbers r facts 858 167hp 112fpt before break in. Power band on graph is broader than both doo and poo 850’s after break in. Haven’t saw a graph 858 vs 9R but looking at torque numbers looks like 858 could be little broader but very close. One things for sure the turbo 850’s make a lot more power on dyno. All my data comes from dyno tech research. Doo 850 is anywhere from 165-168hp 108-111fpt broke in. Cant wait till next season not only because this one sucked but to see the 850’s 858 and 9R race down the lake lol!! Power to weight cat has it but will clutches be dialed in. Or will it be another cat that cant break 100mph lol!! Haven’t been happy with cats clutching for some years now. Feel great down low but stop pulling around 80-95mph. Except for the thundercat of course they seem to have that one figured out. I know a lot of people will say I don’t care about top end but i do. I want my $15-18000 snowmobile to pull all the way through the power band. The 8000 after clutching will reach 110mph iv done it. But stock it wouldn’t hit a 100mph thats embarrassing for a 800 lol!! Ride my fathers 850 doo clutching is good and really like the doo’s. Lets hear ur thoughts has anyone experienced any of the rumors about the 9R. Please let us know if u have or haven’t. Good job luke nice walk around. Thank you

[@pavmentsurfer13]

My initial experience with the 9R and the 858 are that, seat of the pants feel (and drag races side by side) the 858 feels REALLY soft and wasnt anywhere near as fast as the Skidoo or Polaris 850. The Polaris was the fastest, skidoo second and 858 3rd. Everyone who rode the 858 wasnt overly impressed with how the power felt. We had a number of them that has really strange vibrations as well.... then a couple that were buttery smooth. These were early production models, but not full production models. So time will tell. The 9R... every single person who go off it came away shaking their head at how strong it felt. Bottom end felt better than any 850 by ALOT. mid range was crazy and top end was impressive. The engine is also crazy smooth. We dont do clutch kits on anything we test. We keep it stock so the reviews are fair.. just like teh customer gets it from the dealer. Itll be a VERY interesting year next year to see how all the production models compare.

[@sooperdan]

It sounds so old school, the etecs just don't sound that good

[@haydenrichardp3712]

Everybody talks quick reving. Seams clutching has something to do with that also.

[@petebusch9069]

Why not make your current line available before you create a new machine that we will never get our hands on?

[@kwmiked]

I heard it wasn't the same as Mnt sled and it's not the same light crank like mnt sled 🤷‍♂️

[@joshgessinger4509]

Iv heard that to might be a good thing if its heavier because iv herd rumors of 9r cranks not holding up. Could just be rumors but if Polaris put a heavier crank it the trail 9r could be the reason.

[@kwmiked]

@@joshgessinger4509 different crank then mnt sleds

[@joshgessinger4509]

@@kwmiked iv head the same but idk for sure. If its not a lighter crank i dont see the big advantage of the 9R vs the 850. Only a few more HP for what $2500 lot of money.

[@pavmentsurfer13]

It IS a lightweight crank. This was confirmed directly from the mouths of Polaris engineers. Its the same motor as the MTN sled, just tuned for low elevation.

[@terrybures747]

I bought 2 snow check machines, a VR1 and a Switchback in 2020, shortly later the machines were recalled, the sleds could blow-up. I took the sleds in for repair, fast forward 2 years, I received a "do not ride" notice. Now, 4 years later Polaris has not resolved the issue. I have asked for a refund or a safe replacement sled (s). Stay away, read everything on the web, lawsuits are coming, Polaris cannot handle the engineering.