2025 Toyota GR Corolla - Automatic vs. Manual POV Driving Impressions

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TheTopher

TheTopher

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@davidc750
@davidc750 2 ай бұрын
As a manual grc owner, I welcome automatic option. It broadens target audience and hopefully this will boost the sales.
@brahsumatra
@brahsumatra Ай бұрын
@@davidc750 It also helps to keep it on the market longer because right now it’s kind of a dud as the used GR market is growing.
@ClosestNearUtopia
@ClosestNearUtopia Ай бұрын
A GR, with an automatic, talking about broadening your audience.. not, maybe for a stock one, and definitely not in europe either.
@EZ_EZzzz
@EZ_EZzzz Ай бұрын
Eventually it’d boost aftermarket support which is sweet 👍
@zbaker0617
@zbaker0617 2 ай бұрын
bro sometimes I forget how good a driver you are until I see them damn cones 😂
@Canweatleastry
@Canweatleastry 2 ай бұрын
Respect "85mph" I wonder why hahaha
@hhaste
@hhaste 2 ай бұрын
AWD overheating, lol. The exhaust is routed right next to the temperature sensor for the rear differential/clutch pack, so.. it might not be the actual diff overheating. Some people have wrapped the exhaust and it no longer happens, so..
@brandonvo9727
@brandonvo9727 2 ай бұрын
@@hhasteSavageGeese did a great video that covered this topic. Turns out that the exhaust being too close wasn’t the problem as the temperature sensor in the diff wasn’t actually causing it. They even took the sensor out of the differential so that it got fresh air and ran it again and the rear diff still deactivated. They did a whole bunch of other stuff but basically it’s a software issue that is yet to be fixed.
@BigMeechEJ25
@BigMeechEJ25 2 ай бұрын
@@hhaste It's actually the transfer case that is the issue not the differential and with the new models that should be fixed. OP is referring to Toyota's legal response to a GR that caught fire.
@pantag2
@pantag2 2 ай бұрын
Will its engine explode and not covered under warranty with Toyota putting the blame on you, going over 80mph?
@LalaneInvestmentsLLC
@LalaneInvestmentsLLC 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Felixthatdawg
@Felixthatdawg 2 ай бұрын
85 mph strikes again
@DC-sr7gu
@DC-sr7gu 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@QueueTeePies
@QueueTeePies 2 ай бұрын
LMAOOOOOOOO
@lagginluther
@lagginluther 2 ай бұрын
🔥
@Nabilllllll
@Nabilllllll 2 ай бұрын
Wow those transmission logic on the auto GR corolla is amazing !
@genotsSnor
@genotsSnor 2 ай бұрын
Wish these would be sold here in NL.... On the other hand, a GR Yaris already starts from 82.000 Euro....
@dill6078
@dill6078 2 ай бұрын
have both here in Australia, Yaris more fun IMO
@dannyphamous
@dannyphamous 2 ай бұрын
Wish we had the GR Yaris, more fun more wild.
@slocarfr
@slocarfr 2 ай бұрын
i love how they added an auto. it gives those who either aren't physically able or don't want to daily a stick.
@capta1nmark
@capta1nmark 2 ай бұрын
This guy gets it! If only the Type R had a auto
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 2 ай бұрын
@@capta1nmark I highly doubt that the Type R will ever get an automatic, as much as I want it to happen. Maybe the Integra Type S.
@typhoonmma
@typhoonmma 2 ай бұрын
@@faheemabbas3965I have a feeling if they did make an automatic for the type s they’ll have to change the transmission option to a torque converter. The cvt option would obviously be a weird idea
@slocarfr
@slocarfr 2 ай бұрын
@capta1nmark as @faheemabbas3965 said, probably not the type r, unless of course, a dct
@scottanthony3426
@scottanthony3426 2 ай бұрын
I used to think it was sacrilege to put an automatic into a Miata, BRZ, or one of these. Then I realized that these cars are already low volume sellers, and by offering an automatic, perhaps they can increase the numbers of units sold, which would encourage them to keep making BOTH MT and Auto. Certainly better than having these "affordable" cars (vs Supra, etc) go extinct. For me, perhaps a future option for replacing my MT BRZ. My wife doesn't drive MT, so that limits taking the BRZ on along road trip, unless I want to always do all the driving. Maybe this GR Corolla with auto would still be engaging enough. In today's world of sharing the road with bigger and heavier cars, maybe having the extra heft of a Corolla would be a plus too.
@yeeetskeeet_
@yeeetskeeet_ 2 ай бұрын
I have the 2024 GR Corolla and I love it, can't imagine how good this one is too!
@twrcrew8852
@twrcrew8852 2 ай бұрын
@9:55 "if it was longer so i could fit my kids, I'd buy it" - NOOOOOO. that's why car companies make such heavy tanks now. they always want bigger, bigger, bigger. longer longer longer.. If i were a kid, I'd have no problem sitting in the back of a GR corolla. I'd be proud of my dad. You know how I know? I had NO problem sitting in the back of a 2+2 300zx as a kid either! When my dad sold it to get a chevy venture, I gave him soooo much sht for it because kids really don't give a damn as long as they get to enjoy second hand coolness showing up at school with a cool car. "Thanks dad" 🙄. The space wasn't worth learning to drive in a damn chevy venture. I wanted to learn in the Z. So in a weird way, my dad costed me money because I eventually went out and bought my own to get that out of my system - coulda been avoided if we had just kept it!
@calembo7124
@calembo7124 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen all of the videos of this track event and you can tell Topher is an absolute unit on the wheel lol
@kymatt
@kymatt 2 ай бұрын
Consistently the best reviews on the internet, even when it's completely off the cuff.
@FujiboHeavy
@FujiboHeavy 2 ай бұрын
This makes me so excited theyre offering 8AT version. Hopefully reach more enthusiasts, so Toyota can keep making these great GR vehicles. Currently have GR86 6AT, which has been amazing, but this is looking like a great daily/weekend track car with AWD/Turbo
@Nate01700
@Nate01700 2 ай бұрын
Love the videos This is the earliest I have been on a video
@FCT8306onTwoWheels
@FCT8306onTwoWheels 2 ай бұрын
Automatic seems to drive really good in that car. For ease of driving, cant go wrong after a long day.
@Dusty_617
@Dusty_617 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that they included an auto for this car
@RadioActiV_
@RadioActiV_ 2 ай бұрын
really like the GR corolla and heavily considering this being my next vehicle. Would definitely get the manual, but I already have a bike and this would be the daily so the auto would be the better choice
@531efe
@531efe 2 ай бұрын
Lets see Paul Allen's Hakone GR86
@30hours51
@30hours51 2 ай бұрын
Weird to me that manufacturers let’s journalists advertise their cars on track but then voids any warranty for people who actually buys the car and take them to tracks
@judgedreddthelaw3418
@judgedreddthelaw3418 2 ай бұрын
Damn I miss driving a manual 😕 😢 Awesome vid. I went with a '24 corolla le for fuel economy. Very reliable.
@barsaf9989
@barsaf9989 2 ай бұрын
Might as well just drive a prius.
@judgedreddthelaw3418
@judgedreddthelaw3418 2 ай бұрын
@@barsaf9989 nah, more expensive
@brahsumatra
@brahsumatra 2 ай бұрын
After dealing with the GR carnage it’s understandable why Toyota made the automatic an option to drivers who were worried about the money shifting. As for the over 85 warranty void, those GR’s were possibly money shifted because driving data is always sent to the Toyota mother ship.
@オルフェーヴルの夫
@オルフェーヴルの夫 Ай бұрын
Good morning saar please do the needful saar
@intrastate7491
@intrastate7491 2 ай бұрын
85 this, fire that… Sad haters gonna hate
@nihualcoyotl
@nihualcoyotl 2 ай бұрын
Well. RIP WRX/STI. (Atte former WRX owner)
@zackstaa7826
@zackstaa7826 2 ай бұрын
Agree. I’ve owned both (wrx, STI). My GR Corolla rips!! The only difference I’ve felt is the GRC feels quick and accurate like a knife slicing corners, quick on turn in and you can throw it around like a go cart. The Subarus generally feel more stable in LONG sweeping corners.
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Toyota is at a historic point now. All their cars are great. They’re reliable, they hold their value, they have performance cars, their normal cars also look good (especially as some German cars are now looking slightly odd)
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 2 ай бұрын
I couldn’t disagree more. All of their trucks are in turmoil right now with being unreliable. The tundra has how large of a recall? The Tacomas manual is super fragile and it’s 8 speed auto is having a ton of issues. This gr Corolla can’t go above 85mph otherwise you’ll void the warranty and it’s still having diff overheating issues
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj 2 ай бұрын
@@dawsongranger4940 I guess it depends on where we both live. The cars you’ve said are not available in the UK. My comment is relevant for Toyotas sold in the UK*
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 2 ай бұрын
@@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj Ah, you guys get lucky and get the Hilux. Do you also get the old school Land Cruiser? Toyota here peaked in the 90s like all the other Japanese brands
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj 2 ай бұрын
@@dawsongranger4940 Oh actually. That’s interesting how their viewed on differently. We get the Prado Land Cruise with the 2.8 i4 diesel but their not that popular. I don’t think we’ve had any others, I have seen 1-2 Amazon larger Land Cruisers typically with the 4.2 diesel but idk if they were imported or just sold here. I hope we get the new smaller Land Cruiser that got revealed relatively recently but I’m not sure if it will sell as a lot of people drive in defenders
@boots_n_coots
@boots_n_coots 2 ай бұрын
Much needed interior upgrades, good job Toyota! (Imagining driving around that track at 200mph in a howling pack of Nas-cars, haha)
@youngtilt5506
@youngtilt5506 2 ай бұрын
oooo fist auto video im excited
@razokevX
@razokevX 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the high quality video and review!
@DC-sr7gu
@DC-sr7gu 2 ай бұрын
if i didnt buy the 2023 prius, i woulda bought this. man i want this so bad
@johnjohnjohn4557
@johnjohnjohn4557 2 ай бұрын
If i didnt buy the 2024 GR corolla i would have bought a 2024 prius.
@Mr.Starlight
@Mr.Starlight Ай бұрын
If I didn’t buy the 2024 corolla car I woulda gotten a 2005 corolla xrs
@RichieAlton
@RichieAlton 11 күн бұрын
If i didn't sell my Corolla XSE for An RC 350 F I woulda bought this.
@kavanden1964
@kavanden1964 2 ай бұрын
I wanted so much to love this car, and it was in my final 2 (2024, not the new one.) I LOVED the drive, but I hated the driving position. An option for a proper sport seat instead of the carbon roof would have sold me over my CTR.
@asibley1864
@asibley1864 2 ай бұрын
The warranty on both of these things are voided now.
@dieselson18
@dieselson18 2 ай бұрын
VW R, Hyundai EN are all refreshed now 2026, for the FL5 and DE5 an possibly and FL5 LE.
@dionysquezada9221
@dionysquezada9221 2 ай бұрын
I'm so surprised by that 8 speed automatic. It would be perfect if it's in the is500. I mean, better is not much for that car but this one is impressive
@LateNightDateNight
@LateNightDateNight 2 ай бұрын
In the mid 30k range I get it, over 40k there’s no way in hell.
@shiftautomotive854
@shiftautomotive854 2 ай бұрын
new camry are in that price range
@JOONWOOKIYOTAKA
@JOONWOOKIYOTAKA 2 ай бұрын
No joke. It's getting expensive dude. I would wait a couple years and buy a used one.
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 2 ай бұрын
@@JOONWOOKIYOTAKA never buy a used enthusiast car unless you know the owner or its a NA.
@JOONWOOKIYOTAKA
@JOONWOOKIYOTAKA 2 ай бұрын
@@LoveLikeaHurricane NA meaning?
@shiftautomotive854
@shiftautomotive854 2 ай бұрын
@@JOONWOOKIYOTAKA natural aspirated engine non turbo
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 ай бұрын
Chris, Do you have to use a different camera when wearing a helmet.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 ай бұрын
I use the hero 12 since it has better audio, but yeah the angle looks a bit different
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 2 ай бұрын
@@TheTopher 👍
@DrivenToChaos_0331
@DrivenToChaos_0331 2 ай бұрын
I've always loved these man, such a wicked little machine.. that trick awd system is just killer.. Is the P+ now essentially a blend of Circuit & Morizo goodies? I feel as if that's the only worthy trim now for MY25 if you're gonna be doin any sort of track days. If not, there's still no reason to go less than premium imo. Core is just so bare bones in an already fairly minimal interior & it's only a few K difference.. stoked to see you rippin it up out there in any case 🤙
@cerinawoehrley4199
@cerinawoehrley4199 Ай бұрын
It's good for me now I can get the auto now but I got to find one near at or near msrp
@alee2128
@alee2128 2 ай бұрын
I'd much rather manual, but can't wait to see how the new Celica performs, think I'd take it over the Supra because of the AWD
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 2 ай бұрын
Dayum this 8 speed auto is crisp. Would you say this or ZF did it better?
@XiaOmegaX
@XiaOmegaX 2 ай бұрын
you should find a 2zz XRS for a video or track day.
@les2997
@les2997 2 ай бұрын
Why the MPG is worse with the auto?
@Pethaho
@Pethaho 2 ай бұрын
not on no hating shit but i genuinely thought that they’d leave the gr corolla manual only.. that’s what made it special to me but i get why they did it.
@RedOp4545
@RedOp4545 2 ай бұрын
Which one do you prefer a civic si or gr Corolla
@DB-mq4so
@DB-mq4so 2 ай бұрын
Civic Type R
@sharkeatinpizza
@sharkeatinpizza Ай бұрын
​@DB-mq4so did he say type r?
@speedfiend925
@speedfiend925 2 ай бұрын
LIkely not of major interest to your typical automotive enthusiast but I thought you mentioned that the Infotainment grew in size but the website said it is still saddled with an 8 inch screen. Is the website not correct?
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 2 ай бұрын
wished they would of put the sportier looking steering wheel on there.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 2 ай бұрын
These are great cars! I never see them? Are people buying them?
@lolatu4402
@lolatu4402 2 ай бұрын
I own a 2024 premium! I see a few here and there in socal. Not too many though. I can count on one hand the number I've seen.
@30hours51
@30hours51 2 ай бұрын
Seen them rarely, golf R has way more numbers sold because of the auto always being available, see more Elantra N as well because it’s cheap. But GRC and Type R are rare sight to see
@sharkeatinpizza
@sharkeatinpizza Ай бұрын
I've owned a 24 premium for 2 months now and have only seen 2 other GRCs that weren't my own since it hit the dealer floors
@30hours51
@30hours51 Ай бұрын
@@sharkeatinpizza I saw some GRC, only seen like 5 Fl5 type R in the span of 2 years on the road lol
@splaw120
@splaw120 2 ай бұрын
Can’t get the auto trans in Canada without the $8k premium package 😭
@alsacs3635
@alsacs3635 Ай бұрын
The $2K auto option in the US is worth every penny. I have the core version on order.
@The0mustafa
@The0mustafa 29 күн бұрын
transmission cvt like all corollas?
@Jmarzx
@Jmarzx 2 ай бұрын
The Auto’s launch seemed slow for some rzn . It didnt pull till top end 2nd gear 🤔
@sethakira6221
@sethakira6221 Ай бұрын
Why did they get rid of the 30-70
@charlestonmusc
@charlestonmusc 2 ай бұрын
Manual all the way!!!! Save the manual.
@Mega554321
@Mega554321 2 ай бұрын
Is it an actual auto transmission or a cvt?
@vintage7907
@vintage7907 2 ай бұрын
zf8 speed
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 2 ай бұрын
@@vintage7907 I thought it was created in-house by Toyota. I'll have to research that.
@Duneo222
@Duneo222 2 ай бұрын
Cool car, I am sad we can't buy them in europe, so we have to import copart special ones.
@nightman922
@nightman922 2 ай бұрын
Yaris is there though
@30hours51
@30hours51 2 ай бұрын
U guys have the better car?
@Denoheatwave
@Denoheatwave 2 ай бұрын
How does the 2025 stack up against the type R in your opinion, these are officially in the same price range now
@jaredfletcher1587
@jaredfletcher1587 2 ай бұрын
Type R is definitely better
@SethKnows
@SethKnows 2 ай бұрын
​@@jaredfletcher1587Unless you want/need AWD with a handbrake.
@cliffwong3673
@cliffwong3673 2 ай бұрын
Type R is not good in winter weather, FWD, low ground clearance, no heated seats, no heated steering wheel. Otherwise, it’s better in almost every way.
@mmc2k9999
@mmc2k9999 2 ай бұрын
So, is this 2025 worthy of an upgrade from a 2023
@YinYang946
@YinYang946 2 ай бұрын
Is this auto better than the 86 auto? I remember the 86 auto in manual mode had issues on not wanting to down shift when you know it wouldn’t be an issue.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 ай бұрын
Way better programming!
@RacerSTYX
@RacerSTYX Ай бұрын
Does the HUD only display MPH and not RPM or some kind of shift indicator?
@brandonvo9727
@brandonvo9727 2 ай бұрын
How does this 8 speed auto compare to something like the GTI’s DSG or the Elantra N’s DCT?
@MrFoxfire510
@MrFoxfire510 2 ай бұрын
From the way it performs in the video, it looks pretty good
@paulklp8262
@paulklp8262 2 ай бұрын
Benchmarked against the ZF Sachs 8 speed in every BMW and Alfa. So very good.
@benburris4735
@benburris4735 2 ай бұрын
I think the fwd BMWs use an aisin 8 speed, wonder if knowledge transfer went on there if true.
@calvinspires1220
@calvinspires1220 2 ай бұрын
If they can get it to not overheat the drivetrain and go into FWD mode then I'd buy one for sure. Track Days down here in the southeast are brutal enough in the summer.
@1_helper-PST
@1_helper-PST 2 ай бұрын
These cost 52k CAD
@05Elantra98GSGang
@05Elantra98GSGang 2 ай бұрын
85mph thing really pissed me of that’s the speed I drove in my 1993 Corolla on the parkway
@tommyhanqidong8477
@tommyhanqidong8477 2 ай бұрын
You should keep the speed under 85mph or it would catch on fire LOL
@barretclaude
@barretclaude 2 ай бұрын
Is this a documented thing? Like if they hit Back To The Future speeds it just spontaneously combusts?
@NorthKoreasSon
@NorthKoreasSon 2 ай бұрын
​@barretrichardson1229 no, these people are just stupid. There's only been two reported cases of gr corollas catching fire and one of them was pretty heavily modified. That same guy also went to purchase another gr corolla after Toyota denied his warranty
@ezustnyil8414
@ezustnyil8414 2 ай бұрын
@@NorthKoreasSon this is ridiculous that these bad news spread faster than the actual fire... BUT somehow I already knew something like this would happen, after the GR86... I don't know why Toyota fans expect Toyota to make a sports car more reliable than their average products, like they think Toyotas are completely faultless... but sad is that they actually discourage people from buying these otherwise great cars
@mazdaspeedrx8
@mazdaspeedrx8 2 ай бұрын
If the DAT is comparable to a DCT then Toyota has out did themselves
@lamesamelame
@lamesamelame 2 ай бұрын
Not impressed with the fact that it can't go over 85 mph without voiding the warranty.
@sharkeatinpizza
@sharkeatinpizza Ай бұрын
Not impressed that yall beat on a dead horse. Are you actually gonna drive at 90 mph or more long enough for it to even risk something go wrong underneath?
@bender4489
@bender4489 2 ай бұрын
if i'm not shifting i don't get the point
@Blackdawn80
@Blackdawn80 2 ай бұрын
The auto is to get thhose who complain that "they can't drive a manual in traffic" across the sales line. People who drive manual know that it becomes second nature and little to no thought is required in normal city driving.
@ShrekDzz
@ShrekDzz 2 ай бұрын
30:70 or die
@Pamlicojdjdj1487
@Pamlicojdjdj1487 2 ай бұрын
So did it go up in 🔥?
@JT-dm1cs
@JT-dm1cs 2 ай бұрын
does it still catch on fire?
@capta1nmark
@capta1nmark 2 ай бұрын
I’ll still get the automatic for winter cause here in Canada it’s hard to drive manual in our climate with construction as our summer lol 😢lol
@オルフェーヴルの夫
@オルフェーヴルの夫 2 ай бұрын
Hello saar please do the needful saar
@nickval5962
@nickval5962 2 ай бұрын
Hm not sure what you mean, I'm in Ontario and drive my Honda Civic Si all year-round.
@jaredfletcher1587
@jaredfletcher1587 2 ай бұрын
I'm in upstate NY and I drive a manual all year long. I actually like the manual more even in the snow
@boots_n_coots
@boots_n_coots 2 ай бұрын
I’m sure I would be faster in the auto, seeing as how I can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. Nice to have a choice of trannies.
@maxeaton15
@maxeaton15 2 ай бұрын
I need to stop watching these. Have a truck I love but this really makes me regret my decision and wish I was daily driving one of a manual trans one of these…
@maxeaton15
@maxeaton15 2 ай бұрын
Is it completely insane to trade in a 2023 frontier with 10k miles for one of these? Absolutely but I’d be lying if I said I wasnt tempted. something to be said about having fun behind the wheel…
@nightman922
@nightman922 2 ай бұрын
​@@maxeaton15 Exactly my thoughts that brought me to put a reserve on a 2025 GRC core model. Was looking at maybe getting a frontier (for practicality that a truck brings at a decent price) or a civic SI (still keep a manual transmission with great MPG, also at a decent price), but finally landed on the GRC as I've had my eyes on this car for a couple years now. Great amount of power, AWD, manual, and I live in a northern state so winter will be lots of fun with a set of snow tires. I have a long-ish commute (1hr one way) and wanted to keep that driver engagement, while also having the AWD to hoon around in during the colder months.
@PasleyAviationPhotography
@PasleyAviationPhotography 2 ай бұрын
My 09 Vibe GT just aged out for use with Uber. I may have found a worthy successor, the auto of course.
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 2 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t you rather Uber with a Camry since that’s what it’s designed for?
@Wind_slash0
@Wind_slash0 2 ай бұрын
Throw the passengers around 😆
@nf1369
@nf1369 2 ай бұрын
As much as I love the GR Corolla, I would feel so bad for those passengers… the rear legroom is quite small.
@ethanmonat
@ethanmonat 2 ай бұрын
Torque converter automatic, ugh
@icantbelieveoh5486
@icantbelieveoh5486 2 ай бұрын
I wish civic si or type r would have automatic too.
@jaredfletcher1587
@jaredfletcher1587 2 ай бұрын
As an SI owner, I'm very happy it's only manual
@Wind_slash0
@Wind_slash0 2 ай бұрын
The civic ex or sport come automatic 😀
@salwilk558
@salwilk558 2 ай бұрын
Elantra N 8 speed is definitely faster …
@spathotan
@spathotan 2 ай бұрын
I like a lot of shitty cars, but this thing is just so mid to me. It seems like they made this strictly to target people upset there is no new STI, nobody else.
@yourmanzach2307
@yourmanzach2307 2 ай бұрын
yeah but if you go over 80 with the corolla, toyota will void the warranty
@dneault333
@dneault333 2 ай бұрын
Did you just say, a car that voids it warranty if you go 85 mph is "fantastic". If so, please stop reviewing cars :(
@ovidiscool
@ovidiscool 2 ай бұрын
NOT THE 85 MPH 😂😂😂
@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt
@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt 2 ай бұрын
85mph this car is a joke. FL5 type R is just a way better track car and the engine doesn’t explode
@asclepj
@asclepj 2 ай бұрын
are you sure about that?
@anthonyng3014
@anthonyng3014 2 ай бұрын
14:50 - "It's probably faster... than the manual" So what's the point of the manual apart from nostalgia and "macho alpha male" vibes?
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 2 ай бұрын
Joy
@BreadIsGoodHasAlreadyBeenTaken
@BreadIsGoodHasAlreadyBeenTaken 2 ай бұрын
I can play with a stick somewhere else other than my bedroom
@jaredfletcher1587
@jaredfletcher1587 2 ай бұрын
It's a lot more enjoyable. Why grill a burger when it's faster to microwave it
@anthonyng3014
@anthonyng3014 2 ай бұрын
@@jaredfletcher1587 The issue with this analogy is grilling a burger actually produces a better tasting burger.
@jaredfletcher1587
@jaredfletcher1587 2 ай бұрын
@@anthonyng3014 that's what I mean. Grilling is equivalent to driving a manual.
@Pamlicojdjdj1487
@Pamlicojdjdj1487 2 ай бұрын
Economy Uber car interior by Tupperware😂
@ajaloy4010
@ajaloy4010 2 ай бұрын
The GR Corolla is going to be a lot less fun to drive with the automatic since it's not even dual clutch. And they don't have the fun to drive car feel that German cars like BMW has. The 6 speed manual is the only thing allowing the GR Corolla to be even a little fun. It's also like Subaru WRX CVT where you can't have full time AWD.
@ytj22
@ytj22 2 ай бұрын
This isn't a CVT. Typically DCT is less reliable which may be one of the reasons why they chose not to go that route. We'll see how this one holds up I guess. By the sound of the audio, this transmission shifts very quickly and seems to have a more enthusiastic shift logic too.
@ajaloy4010
@ajaloy4010 2 ай бұрын
@@ytj22 When did I say the corolla is a CVT?
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 2 ай бұрын
Look into the engineering of this transmission. It’s honestly better than a gimmicky DCT
@typhoonmma
@typhoonmma 2 ай бұрын
Zf8 are honestly a lot faster than some dcts nowadays
@XsaviXander
@XsaviXander 2 ай бұрын
​@@typhoonmma I wouldn't take this guy's comment seriously. Lost me when he mentioned BMW and DCT. There's a whole world of sports cars that drive better (and are far more reliable) than BMW or any other German brand. It helps to go out and drive other cars like Topher does. I go out and test drive cars if the dealerships allow me (most have).
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