2025 Yamaha R9 | Chris Is Excited!

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

At 65 years old now I feel I can say that I was fortunate to experience the BEST years of Sport Bikes. Every year it was the new faster,lighter, more agile bike that excited the enthusiasts and racers. Now, performance is a passenger with emissions at the helm.

[@pherron7471]

This isn't the bike I wanted, but it is the one I expected.

[@BrassGoblin03]

Exactly

[@abstractspaces8186]

I appreciate that the Bike World audience seems far more mature and level headed about the changing landscape of motorcycles instead of getting the pitchforks out and raving about the good old days like some other channels.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks, that’s always been our goal, we love 2 wheels whatever they are.

[@AMPJ08]

I am also gladly surprised, well done for the audience here.

[@luddite6239]

@@BikeWorldTVshow "...we love two wheels whatever they are." And three. I remember Adam's test of the Niken! 🛞🛞🛞

[@alrightdave6135]

44 yes's

[@CVarden]

Hopefully the other rumor of a V4 R1 comes true too

[@djmorgan823]

If it does it'll be 25 grand plus, irrelevant to most the population.

[@BraapBanana_]

It's not gonna pass emission in the EU, so only for MotoGP. CP4 for MT10 is prolly still going to be there since it's designed for more low end torque. But they discontinued the CP4 for the R1 since high revs can't pass the emissions anymore. I think this is the end of 1000cc 4 in line high revving engines, farewell screaming supersports.

[@HKvsGlock]

Not sure how a V4 R1 would fail euro5+ if it’s a ground up design. They’d also price it the same to compete with the RSV4 (which also starts around 19K). I’m still waiting on CFMoto to bring out its v4 and undercut everyone.

[@red.riot.2280]

I agree. I think the superbike thing is going away. Sadly. They are getting too premium and the sales are lacking for the big 4.

[@carlosandleon]

@@djmorgan823A superbike already is anyway. We mortals can get with the R9

[@reverendhoover]

Get well soon, Chris.

[@pierrebroccoli.9396]

Looking forward to seeing you having fun on one of these both on track and a closed street hooligan ride 😁 120 at the rear wheel - that sounds good to me given it has mid range torque. Fun and seems like Yamaha is keen on keeping us happy. Thanks Chris. 👍 Thanks Yamaha 👍

[@starfighter2952]

That’s what I always wanted. A smaller bike. Now I can relive my beginner days.

[@Manny32V]

I can't believe these are genuine videos.

[@subaruwrx3381]

117 hp with the Mr blobby exhaust 118.4 with the Akrapovic ..ive got a XSR900GP

[@rlsedition]

Not enough of a HP difference for the money spent, but it just HAS too look better than that stock exhaust.

[@magellanicspaceclouds]

The redesigned R7 and R3 are pretty cool too.

[@kevinbezal5739]

"Long live superbikes and supersports"

[@motozest7856]

R9 vs. R6 (people comparing the R9 to the R1 are smoking the good stuff - it's 60% the cost of the R1) 117.3hp@10.000rpm vs. 116.7hp@14.500rpm - less stress on the engine and a lot less manic riding style 93Nm@7.000rpm vs. 61.7Nm@10.500rpm - 50% (!!!) more punch, less stress on the engine and a lot less manic riding style 320mm Brembo Stylema monoblocs with Brembo master cylinder vs. 320mm Nissin monoblocs with Nissin master cylinder - Brembo is obviously the superior system 43mm KYB Separate-Damping Front Fork with adjustable high- and low-speed compression damping on the left leg, rebound damping on the right leg, and preload vs. 43mm KYB with both fork legs handling compression and rebound damping together - meaning more granular adjustments fully-adjustable shock with remote preloading vs. fully-adjustable shock without remote preloading - meaning no tools required arguably the best QS implementation of any motorcycle on the market today (the smoothness of the upshifts and the downshifts and the possibility of shifting down while accelerating and shifting up while decelerating) vs. rudimentary upshift-only QS 55.9-inch wheelbase (longer), 22.3-degree rake / 3.7-inch trail (more aggressive) vs. 54.1-inch wheelbase (shorter), 24-degree rake / 3.82-inch trail (more relaxed) - this warrants thorough testing because more aggressive steering geometries favour nimbleness over stability but longer wheelbases favour stability over nimbleness 11.5:1 CR vs. 13.1:1 CR - less stress on the engine and possibly more fuel options 830mm vs. 850mm - easier to live with for anyone under 6ft 195kg vs. 190kg - not ideal, but the price to pay for more advanced electronics, and that difference won't affect your riding in any substantive way more IMU-based state-of-the-art electronics than one can wrap their head around vs. primitive ABS and intrusive TC - convenience, safety and smoothness vs. choppiness cheaper adjusted for inflation vs. more expensive adjusted for inflation - more people can buy it, ride it and track it Objective data strongly suggests the R9 will be the more complete bike, but no one can say for sure which one will ride better until they've ridden both. Yet I've already heard 6 journalists and 4 different publications claiming it won't hold a candle to the venerable R6. Idiocy at its finest.

[@johnnyblue4799]

You're also making claims w/o riding it... I guess you belong in the same group...

[@juicy9592]

​@johnnyblue4799 ❤

[@langhamp8912]

I recently rode my XSR900 against a few R6's on a track; in the low-skill hairpins (for me at least), TC stomps all over bikes that don't have TC, and performance TC even more so. Maybe if you're a great rider, but TC turns what is a very scary business into a non-issue. All those bikes with TC...yeah you can feel the tire squirming but you just open the throttle more without worrying about a highside.

[@abracing199]

more weight, worse chassis, worse suspension. theres more to the bike than the engine. not to mention on track the downsides of the 600 powertrain dont exist in the way they do on the street where low end matters. this is a significantly more budget product than the r6. youre comparing a muscle car to a sports car, yes the power may be the same but the end product is very different.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@langhamp8912 The CBR600RR does have TC. Ride against that too...

[@HotSizzleTV_]

In USA I’m glad we get the R1 still granted I don’t care for Europe not my land but I want the R6 back that is my favorite bike in the world. Now let’s see the r1 with V4 I want to see what they do with that

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

We care for you! ❤️

[@impalaSS65]

We need to stand united to against marxism, and realize it will continue to spread sooner or later, if people stay detached and complacent like the boiling frog.

[@mikemorales4806]

I’m a gixxer bro but that original R1 red white or blue white are lookers! I remember a few buddies had them brand new few of us had gixxer 750’s and gixxer 100’s we absolutely enjoyed every minute 👍

[@peterflynn9123]

I had an aprilia RSV (2003). 190kg. 118bhp. 70ft/lb. Good for 150mph on the road. It wasn't slow by any means, so the R9 looks like quite a tool for the real world

[@mammocas]

Agreed! Loved that engine!

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Yep, even the retuned falco engine was outstanding......

[@CyberGasty]

And an exceptional chassis as all Aprilias

[@paulthompson8613]

Great bike still got my 2002

[@ddel5240]

My ‘02 dynoed at 112hp with the single Akra can. Guys would come find me in the pits just to say how it would leap off the corners. I’m not worried about the R9’s power level

[@TriAngles3D]

The R1. There are many like these... But this one is mine. You can have my R1 when you pry it from my cold...

[@arieatona]

Im personally super excited for this bike, I know to many it’s not exactly what they wanted, but for me I couldn’t be happier. My father owns a 23 XSR900 and every time I take it out for a ride I can’t help but smile, I feel so confident on that bike I find myself pushing it harder than any other bike I’ve ridden. The CP3 power plant is such a blast I get giddy every time I push it, however I love that it’s one of those motors where I never feel like I have to push it hard to have fun. I was planning on just purchasing an XSR900 once my dealer got the white and red one in, however now with the reveal of the R9 I’m definitely going to wait to get that. I just love the idea of the CP3 motor with a supersport frame and ergonomics

[@YordanHristooov]

I don’t understand why it is so heavy ? My S1000R it’s 4kg heavier and got more power and all the toys. I don’t understand why this R9 it’s so heavy. I really hope BMW makes 750RR or something

[@oceanforth21]

It’s one of the lightest frames Yamaha has ever produced, but it’s still an 890

[@Sunrazor]

Because the Yamaha will keep working when your BMW has hit the scrap yard years ago.

[@YordanHristooov]

@@Sunrazor it doesn’t matter. It’s heavy! Who hits the scrap yard first won’t change the weight of current R9! I like Yamaha as well and I love plenty of motorcycles 🤝 No need to hate some like you do

[@damianogiusti9238]

it's just 1kg more than the last road legal r6

[@YordanHristooov]

@ last r6 was 190kg wet and the r9 it’s 195. I don’t understand why does it weight 195 and it barely makes any power for that weight and cc. They could just made it 185 I guess.

[@MrHamishJohnKilpatrick]

Can anyone explain how honda have released a new inline 4 but yammy cant? Confused.

[@danlford]

They haven't released a new 4. they rereleased the same old engine with some minor upgrades. yamaha was not making money on the r6. the cost of r and d was beginning to be more than they were making in sales. How does it make sense to keep making a bike that no one wanted to buy?

[@urbanstrencan]

Can't wait for you to test ride it Chris ❤❤🤟🤟👍

[@adamheeley285]

Released in March 2025..I cant wait that long!!!

[@JT-ry5ei]

Great points Chris. It's a perfectly good middleweight and for the euro countries hopefully that will be enough. I have a 23 SP and cannot wait for this to come out, mainly due to any electronic upgrades they do to this might be likely to arrive on the next gen 25 SP, launch control on a MT09? Yes please!

[@robertgallacher7214]

This will be perfect for Chris in 30 years time :)

[@_Makanko_]

Nice but I think I would like the cbr600rr better. The engine might be better on this but the I quite like the fit and finish on the Honda more. Considering I'm not going to be able to ride either of these on a limit where you'd be able to want one instead of the other for the specs, the looks (and price) matter quite a lot for me. The XSR900GP or the XSR900F I also fancy the looks. Looking forward to an awesome group test in the future!

[@volodymyrshoniia2424]

But is Chris more excited about rc990r? Soon we get ninja900, rs990, daytona 765, whatever ducati replaces the supersport or/and panigale v2 with, and whatever else can be an upper middleweight sport.

[@christophermassaro9952]

I've already pre-ordered mine.

[@DowCross]

I have a 2016 FJ-09 and a 2024 ZX6R. Both are unrestricted. Anyone who has rode a triple knows the power and tourqe these engines are capable of. I hope the Yamahas R9 has better front end suspension and brakes and a better smoother gear box than what I currently have.

[@sburns2421]

I think the R9 will become the best-selling bike in Yamaha's supersport lineup, even in the markets where the R1 is still available.

[@paulthompson8613]

New bikes seem to cost so much these days or is that just me getting old looking forward to the test ride

[@lunebach1487]

This is going to be a cool bike and a good new class. (Heads to my American dealer and orders a new R1)

[@maximilliancunningham6091]

Good commentary.

[@bobbyclark7423]

If this sells will truimph finally put a fairing on the street triple rs? Please

[@riccardo-nr4]

Chris, get well soon, you sound a bit rough today, too much skids and wheelies in the cold? 😁😉⛅️

[@benjy288]

Sooo, are they going to replace the R1 with a R1 with the MT10 engine?

[@thegamingshatt4758]

Nope r1 is still being sold and developed everywhere except Europe. Plus the mt10 already has an r1 engine in a different tune

[@benjy288]

@@thegamingshatt4758 Even if you happen to live where they're still being sold it looks like the R1 will no longer get any major development.

[@thegamingshatt4758]

@@benjy288 well maybe now with less strict regulations they can do more with it

[@outquick]

Was hoping for something more like the RSv4

[@rlsedition]

Totally different class of bike.

[@markharrison2484]

I think that will be a lot of fun on the road.

[@ddel5240]

The R9 has nothing to do with an R1, or the fact that the R1 has been pulled from your market. It’s all about this “new” middleweight class. Either way, it’s aimed right at me, cause I am of the “not paying 25k for a sport bike” crowd. Same with trucks, no 89k pick-ups for me, the market is just stupid in the US. Either way, I’m putting money down this week, and I look forward to Chris and Neevsy wringing the R9 out (The only MC journals I trust)

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks, we know it’s nothing to do with the R1, but this will be the largest Yamaha Superbike we’ll be able to buy, so it’ll naturally be considered as a replacement, sad times!

[@voyteq1]

R9 is maybe good for those stepping out of the R6 but not the present R1 owners. I'm saying this as I had R1 2001 & MT09 2022. For the R1 owners we need R12 - 1200cc v3 engine 😉👍🏻

[@richrich5827]

Hahaha R9 is perfect bud

[@voyteq1]

​@@richrich5827 finger crossed 😁👍🏻

[@jamesastbury15]

I’m wondering if Chris has had a chance to jump on the new Ducati v4s 2025 yet? Everyone I’ve watched so far has absolutely loved the bike

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Not yet, we’re waiting for them to come into the UK, won’t be long though.

[@jamesastbury15]

@@BikeWorldTVshow ok appreciate that! Looking forward to it :) not that I’d ever afford one 😂😭

[@stevetee4145]

It’s not a successor to the R1. It’s a sports bike in its own right.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Yep, but it will the largest Yamaha road bike we'll be able to buy here in the UK.

[@juicy9592]

It is to the R6

[@KapitanPisoar1]

@@BikeWorldTVshow And that's pretty sad

[@Conii-vc8ef]

World leaders want us to have us all riding round on cycles or walking everywhere. Certain british politicians seem to think "the age of personalised transport is over".

[@BrassGoblin03]

Naked bike motor with fairing* there I fixed it.

[@GabenHood]

No mention of the real brakes for a change?

[@Rider_Tom]

Do you reckon it'll lose a lot of low/mid range torque due to the gearing change?

[@kangaroozombie6866]

CBR 600RR is the TOP choice !!!! In. That range $$$

[@Ionelsa]

well said! Only one correction it's not the successor to R1 it's successor to R6. R1 will be still available for now in the US market

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Not to us though, this will be the largest Yamaha sports bike we can buy, so it will naturally be considered as a replacement.

[@Ionelsa]

@@BikeWorldTVshow yes and no... Considered as replacement is one thing and being replacement is another. 2 different things. By all measurements it's not a replacement. It's like a lot of people considered R7 replacement for R6 which Yamaha clearly stated is not, in their press conference... you see what I'm trying to say ?

[@kwicksandz]

Surely this is closer to an r6 replacement than an R1. And we have already ridden this machine in the xsr900 gp. I don't think it's gonna feel any different apart from bar position to the r9

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

You’re right, but as the road R1 is no more, this is the closest thing to it for us. 🥺

[@shadowred1980]

I thought the same that it would be 14k, at 12.2k it's the same as an xsr gp. That's an interesting comparison. I plan to view both once cmc have stock of the R9.

[@johnnyblue4799]

I'd take the red and white beauty next to Chris over this new one. This being said, and considering the insane prices of the proper I4 litre sportbikes, I'm going back to the 600... CBR probably, 'cause I like red more.

[@Dancecycles]

I love my '24 XSR900 but I have to admit that if I can get the same engine, better TFT, and a more aesthetically pleasing profile (while still being catered towards street riding), well it makes me very curious. I want to feel/look like I'm in a torpedo shark machine! So... if it's even reasonably comfortable for 1 hour rides then I think I might trade.

[@AMPJ08]

BTW there will also be a R9-M and of course the GYTR package! so how come it can be that bad? There will be a R9 for most tastes (like R1's are today can make any kit to higher different levels of skill)

[@devilmaycry383]

Just upgraded to the 2024 MT-09 SP a month before the R9 reveal just having second thoughts. 😢

[@WestOzMT]

What happen to the BMW rebuild ?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Motul have taken it to show off, we have a last ride to do.

[@erichewitt890]

Let’s not disregard the fact that Australian based company extreme creations makes a complete turbo kit for the cp3, giving it 180hp for $4300. $12,500+$4300= $16,800. That’s still $2,100 cheaper than a base R1

[@briansteele2723]

Hmm, even as a non sports bike rider I can see why Neevesy and co are buying older GXR 750s for the same purpose. Usable power and enough fun on the track

[@omgitsabloodyandroid5161]

I’m an old bugger. I’ll stick to my MT-09-SP

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Great bike!

[@vinnyd8108]

Me too 😂

[@jondoe5532]

I believe that Yamaha have something in the fire. If i was Yamaha, i would only drop my entire line of large capacity bikes if i had some new tech in research and development and i wanted to concentrate on that. Hydrogen? Electric? Alternative fuel? Perhaps a hybrid.

[@ogofog9120]

Have you got a cold Chris or was it a heavy night out!?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

He has a cold, get well soon Chris!

[@Theoriginalramjammer]

Yamaha HAVE to launch this in red and white… ❤

[@slyman0057]

At least we will get the red/white one here in the US. 😊 I wish we'd also get the XSR900 GP too, but that doesn't look very promising.

[@Maxime_L91]

Given it will be the exact same price as the GSXR750 I demand a face off video.

[@NatMart9394]

⁠I’ll take the organic rush from my tastefully uprated gsxr L6 750 anytime, anywhere over these overly sanitized, electronically aided, fake sensation, woke learner bikes.

[@ShindigTrader47Sundeck]

Looks ok but when people have to immediately come out and defend the bike rather than herald it, it's not the greatest start. It'll live in the shadow of a bike from 25 years ago I'm afraid.

[@ShindigTrader47Sundeck]

@Legend57. Personally, I don't hate it. It will no doubt be very good, but I'm a touch underwhelmed. I think the GSXR750 as a sports road/ track bike, is the benchmark. A little less weight and near 150bhp when you push it, and not as wild (and needing electronics) as the litre bikes. This R9 is warm rather than hot, in my opinion..

[@danlford]

Well the reason it has to be defended is because people cant understand what this bike is. much in the same way people incorrectly thought the r7 was a replacement for the r6 people are thinking the r9 is a replacement for the r1. It is not a replacement for either but it would be more for the r6 than the r1. I think its a sportbike with decent power that will be a way better street bike than the r6 was.

[@ShindigTrader47Sundeck]

@@danlford I get what you're saying but i've been riding a lot of years and I have to say this defensive position is relatively new. Same with cars and the Toyota GT86 with lots of defense why it's ok to lack torque and it's "all about the fun on the road" etc. When it does lack torque and is a bit limp compared its looks. I get that 200+bhp superbike animals are mostly poor road bikes but this fails for me because it's loaded with tech and winglets etc like it's a top-end superbike but is actually a supersport 600 equivalent but much heavier (195kg dry)... When you can look backwards over 2 decades, and be more excited, 2003 Kawasaki zx-6r (636). 118hp. 174kg dry weight, then it's a no for me.

[@danlford]

@ShindigTrader47Sundeck its the way of the world. Emissions regulations are killing sport bikes. If nit for that I'm sure yamaha would have kept the r6 around, and the r1 ,which is still available over here, but when you stack poor sales on top of strict regulations you really have nowhere to go. As far as the hp goes on this bike it looks bad because it's a "900". Lots of people accocoate power and top speeds with cc. If you're on a 1000cc super bike right now of course you want nothing to do with this bike. I'm on an 03 fz1 that I think puts out around 120 hp on a 1000cc inline four derived from the 99 r1. So 119 on a middle weight for less than 15 grand sounds awesome. Plus the cruise control lol

[@twowheelpilot]

YZF-R8 in-line four screamer with this tech. I personally believe that is what people were craving for. Am i wrong? Comments welcomed.

[@GiacintoMarcellino]

Golden era is gone for sure.

[@ozzybc.]

title should be CHRIS IS SAD

[@848evo4]

how do you figure the R9 could be a successor to the R1? it's the replacement for the R6

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

It is, but we’re losing the road R1 and this is the closest thing to it, naturally people are coming to treat it as a replacement.

[@nlmaster9811]

Successor to the R1? You mean R6? The R1 is still around.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@nlmaster9811 It’s not for us in the UK, track only version available now.

[@paulhope3401]

Quick heads up. The frames on this may be a bit on the weak side if the higher than normal gen3/4 MT09 frame failures are anything to go by. The frame is not similar to the old R1's rectangular hollw section, its a new monocoque type basically C section type beams with diagonal ribbing inside. Lighter and maybe stiffer but not as strong overall. The frame breakages usually result from people fitting single mounting point sliders... so if you are going to get one and fit sliders, make sure its a double/triple mounting point type.... if such a thing is even possible on a faired bike?

[@pro-powerwash]

I feel sorry for the EU crowd. R9 is not a race bike but a street bike that can do track days and it will never come close to R1 performance. It will be interesting to see how it stacks against 600cc class and if it can compete with R6 legacy.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

R7 didn’t have any more “racey” geometry than the MT, I don’t know think? Same frame etc.

[@luddite6239]

There have been some enticing new releases recently. A good time to be a motorcyclist - but an even better time to be a motorcycling journo!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Busy time!

[@luddite6239]

@@BikeWorldTVshow Don't expect much sympathy! 🙄

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@luddite6239 maybe not for Chris, but I’m the one who has to run after him with the camera. 😂

[@luddite6239]

@@BikeWorldTVshow You're doing a grand job. I don't know how you even manage to keep him in focus!

[@ssjhai]

I was about to make up my mind to buy the Honda cbr600rr or the cbr650r. But the R9 made me reconsider my options

[@johnnyblue4799]

If anything, the R9 reinforced my decision to get a cbr600rr, or a ZX6R...

[@sidsnot3149]

Was hoping for a v2 beater, gotta admit a bit disappointing for me, really wanted one but it's a no from me

[@jayfilmer2594]

I reckon they are going to sell a tonne of these

[@aaronkelley6335]

Crazy time... What's gonna happen to the MT-10? Are they gonna provide a 200hp sportbike? Kinda weird they have nothing to compete with the V4 Panigale, etc...

[@ZeroX2001]

MT-03 - R3, MT-07 - R7, MT-09 - R9, MT-10 - R10...Yamaha is clearly setting this up in plain sight. Not sure why people aren't talking about it. The R10 will be the R1 replacement, not this R9.

[@jordanstreet6305]

Defo on to somthing there ​@@ZeroX2001

[@MatNewtonTrio]

I really like the look of it. Having owned 2 MT09’s I can’t say enough good things about that motor, it really is a masterpiece. The price is very interesting. It doesn’t replace the R1 in any way, it’s it’s own thing. Will be very sad to see the end of the R1, one of the most epic bikes.

[@barryrose4850]

Triumph 875 Daytona incoming 🏁

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Well, it may please the technology junkies, but I think it isn't pleasing the horsepower junkies....at least at this moment. I would fully expect the same power recovery mods to have the same effect on the R9 as they do on the MT-09, possibly better with (what appears to be) a central front ducting for air intake. If this solidly enters a racing group (MotoAmerica and the like), I expect the 3-banger to get some custom work. It's a strong block, taking double the power with turbos and such and not grenading. According to Cycle World, the specifications of the 1998 R1 in USA were as follows: 1998 YZF-R1 Price $10,199 419 lb dry 40 mpg 1/4 mile 10.32 seconds 129 wheel horsepower 72 ft-lb wheel torque 172 mph top speed

[@kevinh4910]

Ffffff that white/red gen 1 R1 .drool.

[@barrintimo7412]

yamaha needs to hire a new designer

[@johnnyblue4799]

Long overdue...

[@bobeyes3284]

Its an R6 replacement. No other words to describe it.

[@woooster17]

What CO2 emissions do Superbikes really add to the world compared to every other ICE & huge manufacturers/factory emissions? It’s such a shame that bikes like the R1 have to be culled otr due to ever increasing & tighter emission rules.. The fact this has an IL3 engine and not a parallel twin is a huge plus.. I like it 👌🏼

[@Bluepilled-c5t]

Weird thing is aesthetics wise, I’d prefer the r1 from 98.

[@mrbookends]

The press release track footage looks like the worst form of marketing, with "fast" shots taken at 35 MPH, etc...... You keep us updated Chris, but I'm not holding my breath for anything special

[@Mike_P646]

Surely it's not a replacement for the R1, it's replacing the R6 for a few teams in World supersport

[@dashuntas.m4045]

This bike would me 1000% better received if the came out and said it’s supposed to fill in the R6-sized hole.

[@danlford]

well they kinda did they are calling it a supersport.. supersports have always coincided with 600s

[@RidersAdventure2020]

You are wrong we gonna have a R1 Street legal :)

[@stuwhite1969]

The fact that they dont even bother with shock linkages tells you everything you need to know

[@jims6235]

Why? Real question…

[@stuwhite1969]

@@jims6235 Its built to very low costs

[@dsofe4879]

I think a lot of people misunderstand the R9. The fact that they gave it a completely new chassis on top of adding suspension and brakes that are above even the level of an R6, says a lot about how serious they are. If they were going for a watered-down sportbike for the road, they would have simply slapped fairings on an MT09 like they did with the R7. This is absolutely intended to replace the R6 in most of the classes it races in, and some of those have already been confirmed. At the same time, the CP3 engine makes it way more attractive to the masses, most of which spend >90% of their time on public roads and not the track. Boatloads of torque at any RPM, slightly more relaxed ergonomics (which can easily be adjusted back to R6-levels btw) and even things like cruise control are all going to help soften the blow of riding a supersport on the road and should help lure in a lot of people who would otherwise not be in the market for one. Lastly, the CP3 has tons of potential. I suspect simply plucking it from the parts bin allowed them to hit that aggresive price point (also, 117hp is plenty for the road), but in race-spec, it shouldn't be hard to get 140-160hp out of that engine. I think Yamaha has a real winner on their hands here, this bike has the potential to breathe some new life into the supersport class. I get that 10 more hp would have been nice, but I think Yamaha is rightfully more interested in keeping the price down and selling a lot of them.

[@CurtisBrandt]

Agreed on all points. Good assessment.

[@abstractspaces8186]

@@dsofe4879 It would be nice if they had tuned the engine to be a bit more revvy with more top end power, but I realise it's a cost saving measure.

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

It's the R1's replacement not the R6's.

[@AMPJ08]

Here in YT there are some track day videos of advanced riders going very very well on a stock MT-09 possibly with an exhaust system, yes, on tracks where the bike would outrun out of the exit those on bikes where a higher gear would be needed. Think Yamaha will make some of us very happy with this sport bike since we are not really looking for the right gearing and be always at 14-15k revs, at least not me, not yet :)

[@CurtisBrandt]

@@JoeStanek-vu7rl in my mind we have to be very careful what we compare this to. It’s absolutely not comparable to the R1. It’s well between the R6 and R1 in various ways. Whether we like this bike will heavily depend upon our expectations of it. As a stand-alone thing, I think it’s cool. It’s a long way up from a 600 in terms of torque, and it’s a long way down from an R1 in terms of power.

[@paulsweeney9109]

Good review Chris......open and down to earth. The R 9 is a must have bike

[@jeremycanning8934]

Appears the rumor of the end of WSBK will be confirmed with this bike.

[@devonnobles1083]

When you track test this against its rivals, the supersports some say it doesn't belong in the company of, we need lap times. Only lap times can settle this.

[@kaw7513]

£12250 R9 or £10500 CBR600rr? The difference you can get an aftermarket exhaust and a set of nicer tires…🤔🤔…

[@lgrw660factory]

@@kaw7513 I haven’t ridden either of them but I’d get the Honda based on what I’ve seen so far. A more genuine and honest package in my opinion. Good value for money too.

[@kushpaladin]

what is the fuss about inline 4. we've had the SAME inline 4 engine in every sportbike for the last 20 years. its time for something new get over it

[@antonios990]

Nothing is going to be like the first edition of the R1

[@benjy288]

So its basically an old Yamaha R6 just with much more torque, it seems that Japanese have mostly given up on pushing the envelope

[@benjy288]

@Legend57. The European manufacturer's seem to manage OK with emission regulations.

[@benjy288]

@Legend57. Hence why I originally said the Japanese have given to pushing the envelope

[@benjy288]

@Legend57. Cutting their loses is another way of saying they've given up chasing the top, instead they seem more focused on producing good enough bikes that are relatively affordable, and hoping they sell enough of them to make a profit, for example hardly any of their bikes have twin spar alloy frames anymore, where back in the early 90's even their 250 and 400 4 cylinder sports bikes had twin spar alloy frames, with fully adjustable suspension too, now a lot of their bikes are just parallel twins with steel frames, with a preload only adjustable shock, and usually non adjustable forks, about their only high performance sports bikes are their 600cc and 1000cc race reps, and they seem to be dying off too, the R1 isn't going to be updated to euro 5, the R6 is no longer sold as a road bike, the gsxr1000 is being discontinued in Japan and Europe due to euro 5, all they have to do is update them to meet euro 5 standards, but it seems they've deemed it not cost effective to do so, so they've given up.

[@Asbri_R7]

You got everything wrong, this is replacement for the R6 not R1, maybe in some years

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Not for us, no more R1 so this would naturally be considered as one.

[@Asbri_R7]

@@BikeWorldTVshow Im hoping in the future maybe a R1200 or R1300 to be a real replacement for the R1. Maybe a CP4?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@Asbri_R7 not sure, it won’t happen if Greta Thunberg gets her way.

[@acidroshan1]

Thanks Diddy, yea nah this is the bike the wife approved

[@Sunrazor]

I like the engine in the way it feels. But it is one noisy engine. Had the gen 3 MT09 and I couldn't stand all the darn noises the engine made that sounded like it was gonna break down. Cam chain tensioner ticking (but it was fine), valves ticking, gearbox rattling on neutral, clutch basked had some seriously weird noises. And I bought it new. My GF:s MT07 sounds like it will run forever.

[@Dushyant933]

Now Triumph must bring "Daytona 975" to go against R9.

[@seanbirtwistle649]

cant say i liked the headlight arrangement with the new series - combined with the knowledge that its based of another bike it yells compromise. but i think it looks fine on the r9 and i think it'll be a nice replacement for the r6. but it'll be a slow sell to start with because people want innovation, not just bolt on bits and a fresh dress. feels like only ducati are still pushing the envelope with sport bikes. this alone wouldn't be a problem because most bikes are still great rides, but it comes against a backdrop of the rest of the world recycling/milking older ideas and throwbacks in all media for the sake of money. the world is sick of staring at yesterday

[@SachinLimbu77]

200+ hp to 119 hp😮

[@mike2635]

Fairing Front is sad😪

[@jpslaym0936]

They could have dispensed with that silly center headlight, included proper ram air and gotten an extra 10hp over the MT-09 for very little engineering investment. I dont get it