The "New" Yamaha R1 spells DEATH for Superbikes

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Yammie Noob

Yammie Noob

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@Quacklin10
@Quacklin10 2 ай бұрын
Motorcycle 😎
@yammienoob
@yammienoob 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah
@christians131
@christians131 2 ай бұрын
This should be top comment 😎
@munin9530
@munin9530 2 ай бұрын
hell yea
@vlaaa_0.0
@vlaaa_0.0 2 ай бұрын
Motorcycle 😎
@USAracing
@USAracing 2 ай бұрын
@@vlaaa_0.0 yeah Idiocracy here we are!! The movie of the year is "ASS"
@civilizedsavage360
@civilizedsavage360 2 ай бұрын
I dont think spending 3/4 of my annual income on my hobby and wearing my track gear to Walmart is taking things too serious.
@VBMichael_D
@VBMichael_D 2 ай бұрын
LOL, the fact you shop at Wal-mart worries me more than you riding to it in full gear.
@gerbel01
@gerbel01 2 ай бұрын
​@@VBMichael_Dgotta cut out the costs if you're gonna spend 3/4 income
@civilizedsavage360
@civilizedsavage360 2 ай бұрын
@@gerbel01 This guy knows 👍
@toxiik390
@toxiik390 Ай бұрын
@@VBMichael_Dsince when is shopping at Walmart a bad thing 💀
@NoBaconForYou
@NoBaconForYou Ай бұрын
Bro 3/4??? An R1 should be 1/4 of your income… get a better job
@jamesodonoghue
@jamesodonoghue 2 ай бұрын
Excuse me, I'm a 48 year old lawyer (not a 43 year old insurance salesmen) who takes club racing way too seriously. I'll keep tricking out and overhauling my 2016 R1 and probably upgrade to either a V4 or M1000RR when the time comes. I'm a fairly seasoned and skilled track rider, but still a world away from tapping, let alone exceeding the potential of my 8 year old bike. I'll never get an R9 or anything less powerful than the last bike I owned. Lower laptimes are my life's purpose. Everything else is just a means to ride or a distraction until I can ride again.
@JoeStanek-vu7rl
@JoeStanek-vu7rl 2 ай бұрын
Why is this so hard for the R1 fanboys to understand? 4 cylinder motorcycles are not going to be emission compliant in the future... they are going away whether you like it or not... be happy the R9 isn't electric.
@EvMc305
@EvMc305 2 ай бұрын
Only​@JoeStanek-vu7rl non compliant in commy Europe
@flyingiguana409
@flyingiguana409 2 ай бұрын
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl Yamaha ER1
@jamesodonoghue
@jamesodonoghue 2 ай бұрын
One manufacturer responding to one region doesn't spell doom for the whole industry, and they will still make track-only models. We don't need them to pass emissions. And as for the electric bikes, when they start performing better than gas powered engines, I'll be happy to switch over.
@zugzug6773
@zugzug6773 2 ай бұрын
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl Trump will probably kill emissions standards.
@slice1208
@slice1208 2 ай бұрын
You ever think that bikes aren't selling like they used to because prices are out of control?
@DaveSpen
@DaveSpen 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe how many new 1000s I still see given the crazy price jump over 600s
@milkweedeus
@milkweedeus 2 ай бұрын
Yeah even the used market it pricey. Pretty ridiculous actually.
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony 2 ай бұрын
It depends on the brand. Suzuki may get a lot of flack for not reinventing their line year after year, but you can buy 80% of their lineup for $12,000 or less and most for about $9k. Too bad the Europeans can’t or won’t do this. As long as Suzuki and Kawasaki keep things reasonable, I’m good but I totally agree with the point. Most European bikes are way out of range of the majority of riders and that’s a problem for riders and, probably soon, them too.
@slice1208
@slice1208 2 ай бұрын
@TheSteveSteele A gsrx 600 is $12,000, and a gsxr 1000 is $16,000. The new R1 is close to $20,000; those should be car prices. Bikes used to be affordable go fast. Now, if you can afford a bike and a car, you are spending close $40,000-$60,000 - just buy a sports car.
@Stars-and-Stripes-
@Stars-and-Stripes- 2 ай бұрын
No sh*t, I bought one of the very first R6's (1999 model) for $5999+TTT back then in Jacksonville, Fl. When it was first released and had put a deposit on it about 6 months before it was even released as it was the most Hyped up new Super Sport to be released and if memory serves me Right I paid around $6200 out the door and that was no Sale price being I got one of the first in the city and they literally had a waiting list when they were first released hence why I had to put a deposit on it like 6 months earlier to get 1 of the First ones and at the time the dealer was only allocated 3 bikes in the very first shipment and they were all spoken for and they had none in the show room yet... But my point is that they have almost doubled in price since then..
@ThomasWhitaker-r2d
@ThomasWhitaker-r2d 2 ай бұрын
I'm about to turn 73 yrs young! I'm an avid mountain biker so I'm in excellent health and fitness. I also own a highly modified 2009 R1 and am blessed to live where there are roads to enjoy such a bike. Granted, I don't do track days anymore and have become a way smarter rider on the street but still like to wind it up to 140+ on my favorite straightaway to get the juices flowing! I have plenty of mountain twisties along with fast flowing roads with good line of sight. Bottom line is, I love riding my R1 because it reliable, paid for, has great performance, looks good, and sounds awesome too! Thank the good Lord I can still handle this beast!!! Like I tell many of my non rider friends... "It's so much fun to ride it should be illegal". So, my advice is to be healthy and fit and keep enjoying your 1000cc sportbikes and ride smart so you can ride tomorrow! (How many people do you know that are my age and still ride 1000cc crotch rockets?)
@R1DEOUT
@R1DEOUT 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2010 R1 LE. I always wondered when will the day come where I decide to stop riding. Seeing this post just made my decision, I’m never stopping 😂 I’m 36.
@scottsudo-nim9629
@scottsudo-nim9629 Ай бұрын
Just awesome!! I'm pushing 65 and ride 450cc enduros, but no stinking way I'm getting on a 200hp crotch rocket. Nope, I know my limitations, and a .3+ second reaction time means I'm just gonna be D - E - D dead on what you're riding. Props to you!!
@geoffreycurtis1307
@geoffreycurtis1307 Ай бұрын
Glad to hear there’s others out there who won’t part with there sports bike even though there in their seventies I’m 72 and my latest super bike is a bmw s1000 RR decatted 200bhp and I absolutely love it and don’t hang around on it I still love the buzz of riding it and will continue to due so until I can’t 😂
@2AdAlchemy
@2AdAlchemy Ай бұрын
Me for one. CBR 1000RR.
@tedoud4738
@tedoud4738 Ай бұрын
Great to hear! I'm 64 and sold my Super Duke 1290 last year, but it's great to hear you riding your Yammie into your 70's!
@dustinsson3007
@dustinsson3007 2 ай бұрын
R7 was never the r6 replacement. The r7 was always meant to compete with the 650 class and the r9 is the actual r6 replacement
@wlt3585
@wlt3585 2 ай бұрын
Yamaha also said the R9 doesnt replace the R6, they know the legend of the r6 isnt something they can just 'recreate' That said though, same HP with alot more torque, and only 12.5k$. Closest replacement we'll get
@banana-ui2qd
@banana-ui2qd 2 ай бұрын
its not a r6 replacement ..... its just like the r7 a totally different bike made from a naked to keep the profit margins high
@dustinsson3007
@dustinsson3007 2 ай бұрын
@@wlt3585 they said that as a pr move lol it’s their new super sport class bike
@dustinsson3007
@dustinsson3007 2 ай бұрын
@@banana-ui2qd no it’s not they built this bike to compete in the super sport class again which you will see in the near future
@bradmootz2196
@bradmootz2196 2 ай бұрын
Parallel twins are sooooo boring. Sorry. I hate them
@ModComSol
@ModComSol 2 ай бұрын
I just raced a 2024 R1 in Utah this year. Spent as much on go-fast parts as the bike itself. Took off all the street for race parts to make it run and breathe properly. At my local club-racer level (and am 51 years old) I really enjoy the bike for racing and track days immensely. I do have disposable income to spend on my passion however, would not recommend any 1000 CC bike for the street. Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to try to ride a fast bike fast. Do what makes you happy!
@IRON_D
@IRON_D Ай бұрын
Less fun trying to ride a fast bike slow…
@DustinLevy-h9j
@DustinLevy-h9j Ай бұрын
I work for a dealer who sells Yamaha. The R9 took the place officially of the R6 with the same 118hp. The R7 didn’t take the R6 place. R7 has a whole 72hp.
@bicjerm7509
@bicjerm7509 Ай бұрын
My 2008 Yamaha R6s had 127 horsepower.
@DavidMathis-c8v
@DavidMathis-c8v 8 күн бұрын
on my dyno a stock r7 made 61 hp
@TRathOriginals
@TRathOriginals 2 ай бұрын
In the 5 years I was in bike sales, I figure at least 90% of the R1's I sold were to police. (I guess it's the perfect bike when you're immune to tickets.)
@da6965
@da6965 Ай бұрын
Trooper for 17 years 🙋🏾‍♂️ not immune to tickets tho 😆.
@CooterScooters
@CooterScooters 2 ай бұрын
43 here. Just bought a 2024 R1. Can’t wait to go 180 on the interstate!!😏
@tankeater
@tankeater 2 ай бұрын
I live in SoCal and when I had an R1 100 on the 91 feels like 40mph LMFFFAAAOOO 🤘
@Oldguy-k3t
@Oldguy-k3t Ай бұрын
Just not in California, jail time! Should be V4.
@maxboost81
@maxboost81 Ай бұрын
Same here Brother, picked up a 2024 R1 and I’m also 43.
@JLK7700
@JLK7700 2 ай бұрын
I’m a 59 year old retired guy and I’m an R1 lover. I had a 98 R1 and a 2004 R1. Both were amazing bikes and I wish I had never sold them. My current sport bike is an S1000RR and I love it as well. But the soft spot remains for a R1 and the R1M maybe in my garage someday.
@Mayday1k
@Mayday1k 6 күн бұрын
Which year s1000 did you get and how is the maintenance and reliability as compared to previous bike?
@JLK7700
@JLK7700 6 күн бұрын
@ My RR is a 2022. The bike had its by first service at 600 miles and one recall, both done at the dealership. I performed the end-of-year oil change but the odometer is below 6000 miles so the second service has yet to be performed. My R1s never saw a dealership after I bought them. I did my own oil changes but they did not have the electronics to nag you for maintenance. I have never put many miles on any of my bikes so I’m not the best person to compare long term reliability of the two generations of bikes.
@Mayday1k
@Mayday1k 6 күн бұрын
@@JLK7700 oh so it's pretty new. Thanks for the reply
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 ай бұрын
I'd rather end the EPA, CARB, and EURO5 than end the R1.
@litecoinawarenessphoenix34
@litecoinawarenessphoenix34 Ай бұрын
Right. bunch for paper pushers that sit at home anyway.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Ай бұрын
Like most all "Federal" agencies and their names, they do the exact opposite of whatever they are called.
@Chester_Oliver
@Chester_Oliver 15 күн бұрын
You said an awful lot there, with EPA regs posted on new vehicles and the powers at be fantasizing about everyone riding Chinese batteries and gas stations, a thing of ancient history. Wokeness has literally crept into the dealerships, and they are demanding manufacturers create a fictional reality for them and forcing consumers to buy them or ride mass transit. I'm currently in the market for a new vehicle and I'm pretty damned mad about all this BS!
@TheKablount06
@TheKablount06 2 ай бұрын
If they want MotoGP to be more like the street. They need to add some 4 way intersections with cars, 90% turns, teenagers driving and texting on the track, and a random cop asking “Do you know that guy? Tell them to come back here”. Id honestly watch MotoGP more lol
@John_Ridley
@John_Ridley 2 ай бұрын
Year round rider in Michigan. Get some heated gear, drive the truck for the 20% of the days when the roads are icy, enjoy 2 wheels the rest of the time.
@WyomingFamilyAdventures
@WyomingFamilyAdventures Ай бұрын
For the record, almost all 'waterproof' shoes are better at keeping water in than out.
@Morgi647897
@Morgi647897 2 ай бұрын
*If* you can afford it, there is nothing like a 1000cc bike on track. I am lucky enough to live 45 Minutes away from the Dutch TT at Assen. I own a 450cc two zylinder with lousy 27 horsepower for leasure rides in the country side, but on track, I don't want 3 cylinders, I don't want "tame" or "manageble" I want my 4 zylinder 1000cc Superstock watering my eyes, when exiting a corner. For all I care they can just stop making them road legal. I haven't riden my liter bikes on the road in years. And btw, you can take club racing way to seriously at a much younger age :D
@lightningllama
@lightningllama 2 ай бұрын
Loved the MotoGP section :) There's close to no KZbin coverage of the sport
@ApexRadius
@ApexRadius 2 ай бұрын
Try subscribing to the official MotoGp channel if you're not already. Crash also does a regular podcast which comes to mind immediately and there are a number of channels that cover MotoGP. Cheers.
@peterwilson8039
@peterwilson8039 2 ай бұрын
@@ApexRadius The problem is that Dorna exerts too much control over MotoGp and WSBK. I'm not going to pay that much for access to their channels, and they're not going to give me access unless I pay, and that's the way the cookie crumbles. I can live without it.
@skippityblippity8656
@skippityblippity8656 2 ай бұрын
How tf do they think locking most people OUT is going to drive up revenue? Everybody used to know every f1 drivers and subsequently all the brands the associate with. That doesnt happen anymore Nobody cares anymore because you have to pay to watch
@ApexRadius
@ApexRadius 2 ай бұрын
@@peterwilson8039 @peterwilson8039 I was referring to the free official MotoGP YT channel and third party analysis on YT channels like the aforementioned Crash YT channel. But as a longtime all-access MGP app subscriber, yes, it has gotten quite expensive over the years.
@ApexRadius
@ApexRadius 2 ай бұрын
@@peterwilson8039I was referring to the free official MotoGP YT channel and third party analysis on YT channels like the aforementioned Crash YT channel. But as a longtime all-access MGP app subscriber, yes, it has gotten quite expensive over the years.
@jimmyjazz240
@jimmyjazz240 2 ай бұрын
Yamaha never said they were cancelling the R1. They said they were not supplying it to Europe. The R1M was going to be supplied to Europe. Australia, Asia and America was always getting the R1.
@TheOriginalCoda
@TheOriginalCoda 2 ай бұрын
I was excited for the R9 triple but now I can't wait for the 850CC V4-engined R8 announcement!
@VBMichael_D
@VBMichael_D 2 ай бұрын
HTF does anyone who knows anything about performance, get excited for a 3 cylinder supersport bike? They do not have an advantage over an I4 where top end and high rev horsepower are concerned, and that's what supersport bikes do.
@jaron5958
@jaron5958 2 ай бұрын
@@VBMichael_D Because I'm going to ride it on the street. I like the torque lower in the rev range, and as cool as having 200hp is, I'd rather have 120-ish on the street.
@MrAckers75
@MrAckers75 Ай бұрын
@@VBMichael_Dnot everyone likes super high rev engines. Why do youth think manufacturers still sell twins?
@VBMichael_D
@VBMichael_D Ай бұрын
@@MrAckers75 100% understandable. Being the owner of a SINGLE CYLINDER 2007 DRZ400SM myself, I have zero opposition to those engines themselves. But again, SUPERSPORT bikes are designed to do exactly that, go fast with high rev engines. By your logic, Lambo/Ferrari should remove the buttery smooth V12s and replace them with say, a non super high revving engine like Nissan's KA24DE? An engine that was originally designed to go in their hardbody pickup trucks, that while will run for on average 200000 miles, it doesn't rev very high.
@dartmoordave
@dartmoordave Ай бұрын
Dont forget MOTOGP is going to 800cc, so theres no knowing what coming in a year or 2.
@TheTradesmanLU2001
@TheTradesmanLU2001 Ай бұрын
When I started riding you started on a 600, or 636 unless you had an ego that led you to the liter machines. Next you got a literbike or Busa , ZX12 or 14. Ducatis were kinda niche and didn’t hold up to the performance of the Japanese bikes back in the early 00’s . If you wanted a naked bike you pulled the plastics, put a round headlight and dirt bike handlebar on your SS or SBK and that was a street fighter . So much more options now . I didn’t mind the way it was though .
@luckylanno
@luckylanno 2 ай бұрын
Yamaha doesn't have car money, but they have saxophone money.
@Underpantsniper
@Underpantsniper 28 күн бұрын
And keyboard money
@rickw5024
@rickw5024 2 күн бұрын
I'll keep riding my 1990 ZX7 it's fast enough for the streets
@ma6netho
@ma6netho 2 ай бұрын
we don't need 200hp for the road. But i would love a 750cc V4 at 150hp and 175kg
@stestar09
@stestar09 27 күн бұрын
"Arguably the best 600 ever to have existed" my 04 zx6r 636 is that "Arguably" 40k miles , owned from new , never let me down 💚 even once thrashed the hell out of it , oh & i own an R1 08 & my zx6r is still the goat 🐐
@mikeallen5291
@mikeallen5291 11 күн бұрын
I used to own a '13 R6 and it was my first crotch rocket. The thing was absolutely a blast to ride. But once I hopped on a Super Duke, It was over for me and the sub 1000cc category. I now have an '85 Honda V65 Manga a '96 Triumph Daytona 1200 an '01 TL1000RY That's built to the hilt, a heavily modified '20 Super Duke, and a '21 Ducati Diavel 1260 S. I often debate buying a smaller bike to get a little nuts on again but it's hard to step away from the absolute torque insanity that I am used to.
@ciaranmccabe3225
@ciaranmccabe3225 2 ай бұрын
One reason why sales decline for these types of bikes is increased insurance coverage prices it’s absurd how expensive it is for me to insure a bike ok yes I’m young so that’s obviously a factor as to why it’s more expensive but even at that I’m pay £250 pounds a month roughly 326 dollars 300 euros for a ktm duke 125 so that’s nearly 2500 a year for a bike that only cost me 3k
@BeardedStigg
@BeardedStigg 2 ай бұрын
Really for me insurance is $300 a year for full coverage for my tuono v4, I'm also in an older age bracket.
@ciaranmccabe3225
@ciaranmccabe3225 2 ай бұрын
@@BeardedStiggyea it’s really bad where I’m from im from Ireland and it’s so bad there’s some cars cheaper for me to insure than my bike
@cocouffs
@cocouffs 24 күн бұрын
I'm 28 in January. I pay more for my 400 than my in-law pays for his Hyabusa. That's not even right. My bike cost 8k, and his was 25k.
@gerrycout7845
@gerrycout7845 Ай бұрын
I’m 48 and I own a 2004 CBR1000RR that I bought new. I have around 67,000 miles on it. Never had the valves adjusted. I’ll get that done this winter for the first time. Love the bike. Japanese 1000cc will always be where the superbike started. No other brands can match their reliability in the real world. I never did a track day with it but it has seen a lot of canyon twisties. I’ll probably die owning that bike. I would love to get a new CBR1000 but the prices just got out of control. I now go moto camping with my 04 CBR1000RR. Yep, you heard right. Camping. I had a bracket fabricated to install a Givi hard top box where the passenger seat is and it works great. I’m the fastest one to the campground. 😂 Awesome machines. You can race with them or go camping. I’m a 1000cc sportbike lifer..!! I certainly hope that manufacturers are keeping an eye on these comments. It would appear the demand is not dead. Motorcycles have always been about performance and handling, we don’t need to tame them down too much. Let the horsepower flow please. 🙏🏼
@Clutch_Kick187
@Clutch_Kick187 Ай бұрын
LOL.. Me too, except I'm 43 and bought a 2006 cbr1000rr brand new, now has 48k miles, mostly cuz I ride a 2010 street glide nearly all the time.. The cbr is relegated to riding around the loop about 6-8times a year, and a couple high speed highway floggings for shits and giggles.. My 06cbr was $9599 on the showroom.. won't ever see that again..
@dartmoordave
@dartmoordave Ай бұрын
70, still riding my 2010 1000rr in Repsol paint. One of the best all round bikes I've had.
@TheBoomBapp
@TheBoomBapp 12 күн бұрын
Literally pick any of them as they are all bad ass. I started riding at 3 and began my sport bike journey on 98 GSXR 750 when I was 18 then went 2010 CBR1000rr and now I’ve moved on to Aprilia RSV4 1100 and Yammy R1M. I found that I am addicted to that V4. You literally cannot go wrong. In between the Aprilia to the Yamaha is a number of top quality picks that will have you grinning at your choice. I am 53 now and find every chance to twist out some fun ripping around SoCal.
@cookinsdabest
@cookinsdabest 2 ай бұрын
Parallel twins are half of a v4. It's inevitable.
@cosmiccat3383
@cosmiccat3383 2 ай бұрын
V twins are half of a v4 it is so over
@cpl_clap
@cpl_clap 2 ай бұрын
They are not because the stroke of a parallel twin causes the crank to be unstable or unbalanced, thus needing different engineering at the crankshaft to solve this. Where v twins or v4s do not... also inline 4s ironically do not have this problem. This is why parallel twins rev out completely differently than their counterpart inline 4s and v4s.
@sebo1337
@sebo1337 2 ай бұрын
Parallel twins are the corduroy pants among engines ^^
@VBMichael_D
@VBMichael_D 2 ай бұрын
@@sebo1337 PLEATED corduroy pants even.
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 21 күн бұрын
WhenI was studying in Paris, I rode a Ducati 851 super sport. We would ride the twisties in Dampierre (Paris outer suburbs). I stopped riding after my student years but got back on a bike at age 59. I ride a 2004 Honda CBF 600 just to get back into the saddle. I will definitely graduate to something with more zest. I live in the South of France next to the Pyrenees. It is just paradise for mountain twisties. Cross over to Spain and you have fast curves, no traffic and very few speed cameras and police.
@briangarner
@briangarner 2 ай бұрын
No one wants to buy a Japanese bike for 28K. THIS is why the bikes do not change. These are toy bikes, used on occasion, a second bike. It’s over. Welcome to our new crap economy.
@esh9x153
@esh9x153 2 ай бұрын
Yep and the people in europe, latin america and asia who use bikes as their primary vehicle probably can't afford a 28k or even an 18k bike to begin with.
@NoBaconForYou
@NoBaconForYou Ай бұрын
I don’t have a car, I ride a CBR300 and I’m looking to get an MT10. $18k is not bad for a brand new vehicle that is faster than a Lamborghini.
@stephenmac23
@stephenmac23 Ай бұрын
Speak for yourself, I’m searching everywhere for a 22’ RRR Fireblade to add to my collection next to my 07 CBR600RR
@terrancezatylny3217
@terrancezatylny3217 Ай бұрын
Iv got 7 bikes in the garage and now want the new 25 rsv4 rf.
@rolobotoman
@rolobotoman Ай бұрын
with the tarrifs, it's going to be nothing but Harleys from now on.
@jbcowherder6210
@jbcowherder6210 2 ай бұрын
...... "with the added Temu winglets".............priceless :)
@AndyAndy-bg7mv
@AndyAndy-bg7mv 2 ай бұрын
i purchased the said winglets while drunk they are now in the trash 😁
@luke9911
@luke9911 Ай бұрын
In my opinion. They should have made the 700 a fuel injected two stroke. As a collector I would have been first in line.
@kousinkoolaid
@kousinkoolaid 2 ай бұрын
The difference this ground is Yamaha has no flagship bike to sell to the EU having discontinued the R1. V4’s clearly can be made to meet regulations, Yamaha will want to fill the gap. Hence v4 flagship. Just my hypothesis.
@boomersuperbike3787
@boomersuperbike3787 Ай бұрын
i am a yamaha, suzuki, and kawasaki dealer. your statement about people not buying superbikes is FALSE. i cant get enough! we sell every liter bike we can get. bmw sells out of every s1000rr they make and so does every japanese company. this is false news
@astontoftero3404
@astontoftero3404 2 ай бұрын
Those wings are the only ones i approve of on bikes, first ones to actually look good on a motorcycle
@davew8841
@davew8841 2 ай бұрын
I'm a 50yo who's owned R1's and other big sports bikes all my adult life, and I agree. I think we've entered an era where the Japanese corporations are far more budget conscious than they once were. Ever stricter emissions regs has played a part in this. The "everyman" sports bikes that they all produce are cheaper to make and cheaper for the consumer to buy. No brainer, really. But, I do hope they will still continue to produce affordable flagships. Any auto manufacturer can produce a super car if they want to, but few people can afford to own them.
@raa729
@raa729 2 ай бұрын
@@davew8841 brother, 46 yo here, maybe makes sense to grab a fresh zx10 and preserve it, it’s still made as it should be without planned obsolescence in mind. Maybe because Kawa produces less bikes than other big three but is actually a huge corporation that builds navy ships and tankers, loads of money, bikes are toy project for them.
@VBMichael_D
@VBMichael_D 2 ай бұрын
Budget consciousness should go right TF out the window when we are talking about flagship performance vehicles. A prime example is why TF did Nissan put an intrinsically IMBALANCED V6 engine in their 'flagship performance car'? "Let's build the VH45DE V8?" CEO: nN0pE! "Let's retool the RB and put a proper INLINE 6 in there?" CEO: N3g@t1Ve. dURp! CEO: "wE WuNT tHUh WurST EnJ3n tYPe 4 pUrf0rmUNz"
@leevanf1070
@leevanf1070 2 ай бұрын
The quote on the R1 existing is great. Its very similar to the Lexus LFA. A symbol that reflects values. Something uniquely Japanese in ethos.
@mifo2000
@mifo2000 28 күн бұрын
Id just buy a wrecked R7 for track days because the 2 cylinder is so easy to ride and now ive ridden a turbo r7 (Setup for tracks, not drag) and seen how reliable it is AND beating stock 1k sports bike is the quarter, yet still being easy to ride with low down torque too 6k rpm then the rest of the rev range is in boost and feels like an inline 4 sports bike braking traction or wanting to lift the front MT-09 for street and/or stunt riding, Again easy and fun power band to ride and geared right so its good to cruise at 60mph/100kms but still good for twisty roads and stunts
@xavierq.6658
@xavierq.6658 12 күн бұрын
In my country ( Belgium ) it cost roughly 2500€ ( 2 625$ ) + 175€ ( 183$ ) Eco-malus to put a new R1 on the road and ~1300€ ( 1 365$ ) each year, all that without insurance ... I can see why the demand is so low and Yamaha took this route for Europe ...
@NoBaconForYou
@NoBaconForYou Ай бұрын
I’m looking to get an MT-10 as my second bike. Perfectly practical
@chrisrichelle
@chrisrichelle Ай бұрын
I like the homologation race series, currently have a WSBK subscription not MotoGP. The only street bikes I ever bought are sport bikes. I don’t see a replacement for the liter bikes. The frame geometry on these new gen crossover bikes is too short and compact. I prefer the long and low stretched out cockpit of traditional sport bikes. To me the new are glorified naked bikes meant to look sporty while not being conducive for a full size person to tuck in behind the fairing.
@willmetcalfe3528
@willmetcalfe3528 Ай бұрын
atleast to me, there was nothing wrong with suzuki continuing to sell the gsxr1000 year after year. i wish it was still available in the uk.
@Frightsfeed
@Frightsfeed Ай бұрын
Salesman at I bike dealer in Canada here: The only reason the R1 isn’t selling well is because Yamaha won’t produce enough of them. We are the biggest dealer in my city, and Yamaha is only sending us 4 In total for 2025. And we’ve already sold them ALL. Not sure what their strategy is here, but anyone that says they don’t sell well is full of it. They sell like wildfire
@ap_holliday
@ap_holliday 2 ай бұрын
Except Honda did produce (and sell in the US) the rc213v-s road bike from 2015 to 2018. Very rare and very pricey to own and run. Just ask IOM-TT vet Michael Rutter who raced one on the island for many years.
@lriper4702
@lriper4702 Ай бұрын
That’s the end of R1. Like the GSXR… young guys don’t care about superbikes. Japanese factories need to sell in large quantities in order to have a reasonable price like they used to. This doesn’t happen anymore, so their prices are extremely high. You don’t see superbikes on the road, only scooters and on-off monsters… in Europe at least.
@boduke9428
@boduke9428 Ай бұрын
I'm 47, not 43 and i got no use for club racing but i do love my liter bikes. Not really a R1 type but my CBR 1000's are still my favorite 2 wheeled ride that isn't a Busa.
@manray005
@manray005 2 ай бұрын
Those are the first winglets that I actively despise.
@jlzimmerman75
@jlzimmerman75 2 ай бұрын
AND it will do nothing if Yamaha doesn't address top end power. Corner speed and keeping the nose down under acceleration was never it's weakness compared to Ducati and BMW
@esh9x153
@esh9x153 2 ай бұрын
this was basically what honda's been doing with the cbr600rr. They released the new bike in europe and japan but the us has been getting the same old bike since 2013
@d2kinu874
@d2kinu874 2 ай бұрын
Love the videos but what I love even more is the classical music in the back especially this one! I love Chopin!
@StarryBoar
@StarryBoar 2 ай бұрын
As someone who just recently found out about how awesome Yamaha is (06 R1) I'm pretty stoked for the new R1, finally going cross plane and all that jazz. Lol The R9 well I'd have to ride one to have an opinion. I heard the 7 left a lot to be desired sooo makes me think the same for the 9.
@WeCaughtYou-m9b
@WeCaughtYou-m9b 13 күн бұрын
I am happier with my 2024 Yam R6 (race only version). It is just exactly like my 2017 R6. And yes @ 57 I take this way to seriously. But I still enjoy the race weekend. Except Monday morning going to work tired and sore. I feel eventually the R1 by 2030 will be phased out and in race version like the R6
@mrdcato
@mrdcato Ай бұрын
The R6 is gold. The 2006/2007 models changed the game immensely!! I raced that bike for 2 years and only made one unforced mistake on track.
@LeeWhalan-bi8kc
@LeeWhalan-bi8kc Ай бұрын
Im 51 and currently my bike of choice is the ZX10R Ive been fortunate enough to own R1s GSXRs and ZX10s but Ive ridden them all and love them all, lucky for me which ever manufacturer produces the last, best 1000 inline 4 will see me out, but I have to say I really feel for those that feel the way I do about riding these amazing bikes that wont have the opportunity to see the and own the incredible advancements that have continued via access to these machines in the future Damn happy Im an Australian too 🤣😆
@Jdalio5
@Jdalio5 12 күн бұрын
In 2008 I almost bought a brand new gsxr600 for $5,500. Those were the good old days when you could afford a few different hobbies.
@12346rossi
@12346rossi Ай бұрын
bring back the rd350 - here in the UK we do not comply with euro emission regulations as we have left Europe
@dartmoordave
@dartmoordave Ай бұрын
Yeah, we do. You can only get round it with single personal import.
@winduncan9818
@winduncan9818 Ай бұрын
Lifelong rider in my 40's. I'd buy a MT09 or a 07 with good suspension. I don't want crappy body position or winglets on the street. I F-ing love that MT09 motor!
@thecornishbiker9323
@thecornishbiker9323 Ай бұрын
An idea for yamaha. Put the mt10 engine in a racerbike .160bhp would sell loads at the right price
@WhiteoutSnowy
@WhiteoutSnowy Ай бұрын
So if you want to get a R1 , find a low miles clean for sales is your best bet ? Other option is try find leftover R1 at dealers
@adamschnulle687
@adamschnulle687 2 ай бұрын
The r1 is the only way to get a crossplane inline 4. It's impossible to get long in the tooth when it's the only option IMO. I will probably get this next season.
@antoniomargallo5317
@antoniomargallo5317 2 ай бұрын
In Europe we have Ducati, MVAgusta, Triumph, BMW, KTM ... five reasons we don't need the R1. Its all good.
@foodmaniac9339
@foodmaniac9339 2 ай бұрын
All of them can be ditched in a garage every week. No thanks. New R1 will be out in 2027 as yamaha engineers already confirmed that it's in development
@jake88ci
@jake88ci 2 ай бұрын
@@foodmaniac9339 BUT EURO BIKES HAVE BEATEN THE JAP BIKES IN EVERY COMPARISON FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS STRAIT . EURO BIKES BETTER IN EVERY ASPECT NOW
@Liamproduc267
@Liamproduc267 2 ай бұрын
​@@foodmaniac9339lmao... I can't breath 😂😭 these European bike are garbage 🗑️
@Tom090586
@Tom090586 Ай бұрын
​@@Liamproduc267 yeah bmw is garbage......😅
@gerrycout7845
@gerrycout7845 Ай бұрын
None of those brands can match the Japanese in overall performance and reliability.
@mikewiley1652
@mikewiley1652 Ай бұрын
I love the R6And I love the early R. ones, A buddy of mine In Bradenton Florida also a cop Tricked his R1 out and he was banging 200 Mph legit And that was on the homestead track down in Miami I had an old F4With a 900RR Engine in it Put a turbo on it But never fully worked did it out and did it up selling it Got married had kids all that good stuff but I still miss you My bikes 1 day I'll be able to get another 1But the prices on the new bike Are crazy
@JDeubel
@JDeubel Ай бұрын
I had a R1 the last year of carbureted it was still one of my funniest bikes I've ever owned
@RealRabidDuck
@RealRabidDuck Ай бұрын
What was the best joke it told you ?
@mrdarryljones1
@mrdarryljones1 Ай бұрын
Post 2008 is a different world period; what used to be consumer is now luxury.
@Virvum_Juggernaut
@Virvum_Juggernaut Ай бұрын
Trippy and fitting that Toprak won the WSBK Title while Quartararo won the MotoGP title both in 2021 for Yamaha.
@rustyshaklford9557
@rustyshaklford9557 25 күн бұрын
0:39 That's raising the question, not begging the question.
@KuyaTambok
@KuyaTambok Ай бұрын
not only the existence of new sets of common brands disrupts the R1, but the birth of many chinese big bike brands today,.. everyone has more option with the balance of power and gas consumption, etc.
@antonioribeiro6196
@antonioribeiro6196 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, Hoda had the RC 30 and Rc45 in WSBK and V4
@verlinswarey507
@verlinswarey507 2 ай бұрын
Holy crap! Someone wrote this script who has a pretty deep knowledge of motorcycle racing! Was that you Yam? Pretty good fer a guy with an ADV bike in the garage!
@yammienoob
@yammienoob 2 ай бұрын
😇 couldn't be me lol
@krehme
@krehme 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the professional delivery you bring to your posts. You speak so well. I admire your talent.
@WheelHeadd
@WheelHeadd Ай бұрын
A few years or a decade ago, I loved Yamaha's R series over Honda's CBRs. But despite the changes, it's Honda stood out with lots of engine power with their RRR Fireblade which can compete with V4s. Yamaha's tactic with new R series with twin cylinder engine's a bit like "more looks, lame performance."
@propertyservices1
@propertyservices1 Ай бұрын
I'm 46. Still ride 180mph cracking wheelies for days. Cant give it up.
@kentalanlee
@kentalanlee 2 ай бұрын
Good analysis. Thank you Yamster.
@owlkishu6007
@owlkishu6007 2 ай бұрын
imo, because WSBK need a huge boost to compete with BMW and Ducati, that is strong enough reason to change R1 to a V4 engine. or Yamaha will do a new model line for its V4 engine motorbike.
@DavidStanbridge-fx2yn
@DavidStanbridge-fx2yn 14 күн бұрын
Yep in the UK dealerships are closing only small cc bikes are selling
@quiksilverben3
@quiksilverben3 Ай бұрын
I've got my 2017 R1 as my daily with almost 50k miles, and last month picked up a 2024 R1M. (Which still has 0 miles😂) Should've mentioned the 2025 R1M having less updates than the base 2025 R1.
@vizzle89
@vizzle89 2 ай бұрын
I wanted a R1 but when I saw the price for full coverage at my age of 35 (they were asking for 4k for the year) I passed on it. I do regret it though because I still have the literbike itch. I bought a Scout 101 which is also fun and comfortable but it’s not a Supersport by any means. For comparison the 2025 Scout 101 for me is $500 for full coverage for the year vs a 2024 R1 $4000 with progressive. I’m not going to gamble with liability insurance(I learned that’s how a lot of people ride here in Texas on their literbikes)
@michaeldelio1870
@michaeldelio1870 2 ай бұрын
4000 a year! In that time, you could have paid for two bikes
@michaeldeel7998
@michaeldeel7998 2 ай бұрын
i wanted to see how much full coverage on a honda cbr 1000rr was before i bought one and they gave me a price of 148 a month for full coverage im 35 and first bike....... State Farm Buero..
@wyvern4588
@wyvern4588 Ай бұрын
Anything with fairings goes up like crazy. My XSR900, full coverage with a 1K deductible is $50 a month. Funnily, it's brother the MT-09 costs almost double.
@hennievangalen3789
@hennievangalen3789 Ай бұрын
The 3 cilinder is much more interesting! I'm a retired guy with a few lap time records set long time ago. I survived.
@johnfreisen661
@johnfreisen661 13 күн бұрын
I am happier with my 2024 R6 for racing. And yes at 57 I take this way to seriously. I believe eventually the R1 by 2030 will be phased out just like the R6 and in race version only.
@armajunkie7058
@armajunkie7058 2 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head, definitely that Suzuki kind of updates, with the major success of the T7 and upcoming R9 there are getting very complacent
@Von715
@Von715 2 ай бұрын
Yamaha needs to make new mt10 with gen1 looks
@deandee8082
@deandee8082 Ай бұрын
really don't wanna see the R-1 go anywhere I love that crossplane action . . .
@infernokis3050
@infernokis3050 Ай бұрын
Too much drama with liter bikes, I like my K8 GSXR 750, not a liter bike, but definitely not a beginner bike, a happy medium for me. I can at least hang in there with the 1000s, but I get an ease of use closer to a 600 or sumn similar. Besides, until I can exceed the limits of my VERY FAST bike, (it’s not a slow bike AT ALL idc what yall say) I see no reason to get a faster one, even though they offer quicker times around the map. Save your money folks! Grab a GSXR 750 if you want more than a 600 but can’t yet handle a literbike.
@shravanav993
@shravanav993 2 ай бұрын
The most interesting move in the WSBK scene is the Kawasaki ZX10RR getting replaced by a Bimota based around the ZX10RR engine. And the upcoming Ducati Panigale V4R with the new conventional swing arm. The supersport category is the most interesting one. The KTM 990 RC-R, Yamaha R9, CF Moto 800rr going against the established Panigale V2 & MV 800RR.
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 2 ай бұрын
Wait CF Moto is making an 800RR?
@shravanav993
@shravanav993 2 ай бұрын
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I'm sorry, CF Moto is making a 675 triple, QJ Motor is making the 800 inline 4
@ApexRadius
@ApexRadius 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I find the new age supersort classes really interesting these days. I'm not entirely sure why some people want to see only essentially 20-year-old 600 I-4s race each other.
@shravanav993
@shravanav993 2 ай бұрын
@@ApexRadius Happy to see that the ZX6R & CBR600RR Are still in the mix, but yeah, it's been a bit stale for a long time. Since it's inception, supersports has always been the 600 i4s plus the junior Ducati V2
@ApexRadius
@ApexRadius 2 ай бұрын
@@shravanav993 I'm also glad to see the old 600s still there, but the class is so much more interesting with a wider variety of bikes.
@PatrickSBellSr
@PatrickSBellSr Ай бұрын
I love my '13 FZ1 and will ride it forever!!
@joebloggs1317
@joebloggs1317 Ай бұрын
Not sure about markets around the world but here in the UK the average age of motorcyclist is so high that 1000cc, or any, superbike, are becoming irrelevant, not because of ridiculous speeds and power outputs but because many would be crippled by the extreme riding position. Old bodies don't appreciate feet up head down riding positions. I ride a ZZR1100 and see more adventure type bikes than anything else.
@TroyMckay-ln1js
@TroyMckay-ln1js 2 ай бұрын
Rsv4 1100 factory akrapovic full system guy here , everything's behind me 😮
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony 2 ай бұрын
The problem with Texas is the never ending summers. 100 degrees daily for months on end. Engine temps are ridiculous to maintain and deal with.
@vizzle89
@vizzle89 2 ай бұрын
They are not if you’re not in standstill traffic. And if you’re sitting in traffic during rush hour you’re riding motorcycles wrong
@Idroppedmygrilledcheesefug
@Idroppedmygrilledcheesefug 2 ай бұрын
@@vizzle89my brother in Christ. Have you TRIED to break traffic laws in Texas? That’s a sure fire way to get a felony lmao
@williamhardes8081
@williamhardes8081 2 ай бұрын
Oh dear, how sad, never mind. suck it up. try riding with your full kit in an OZZY summer. i feel most sorry for those who live in climates where you don't get warm weather, ever.
@raa729
@raa729 2 ай бұрын
@@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony ps when I bought new r1 in 2009 in the spring I was riding in Prague and had her boiled off because of long red lights and hot weather. I immediately forgot about the warranty, had cat removed, straight pipe with an end can installed and it solved all summer overheating issues. Cats are evil on bikes.
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 2 ай бұрын
@@Idroppedmygrilledcheesefug I live in Texas and ride year round which is one Texas highlight, riding around in January, can't do that in NY, Cleveland or GA. I don't ride my bikes in summer rush hours not only because it's too hot and dumb, but Dallas Ft worth area drivers will try and kill you lols. However, I ride year round not in traffic, superbikes aren't meant for traffic in any state.
@jonanderson70
@jonanderson70 Ай бұрын
11:30 you didn’t have to have “massive disposable income” to get one 10-15 years ago. My roommate in 2011 was a waiter and saved his money for a few month and bought a beautiful 2003 GSXR 1000 with less than 1k miles on it for $3500.
@DOORDASHINGCMOTO
@DOORDASHINGCMOTO 2 ай бұрын
As a rider with a 14 r1 I love mine but I will say for a upgrade from the 14 the 2025 would be a great upgrade for me I love the fact they finally put Brembos on it the winglets don’t bother me like that I always loves the 2024 model so even if it’s just a slightly upgraded 2024 for me and upgrading from a 14 is great over getting a 2024….if they do decide to kill the r1 inline 4 then I would like to have the last r1 they make which might be this one if there happen to be a change. For most of the complaints about the r1 is track issues but street wise the bike is totally fine and will be just as much I’m sure more fun then my 14. Not sure when the 2025 will be out for sale but I’m getting one
@ThomasStauffer-t6u
@ThomasStauffer-t6u Ай бұрын
I personally would prefer a Triumph Speed Triple 1200 R or KTM 1390 Super Duke for a practical liter bike for everyday .
@dlcarburetor
@dlcarburetor 2 ай бұрын
The R1 is still awesome and most consumers can't scratch the surface of what it can do.
@lucascarracedo7421
@lucascarracedo7421 2 ай бұрын
Of course. Most consumers can't even scratch the surface of what an R3 can do.
@billbonu1639
@billbonu1639 Ай бұрын
My fjr is about as fast as I plan on going so I'm good If someone would modify the FJR they probably wouldn't need an r1 anyway
@jimholz1102
@jimholz1102 Ай бұрын
See 1985 honda vf1000r. V4, gear driven cams, every bit of trickery they could throw at it.
@JasonSchamber
@JasonSchamber 2 ай бұрын
Haha omg, my original factory blueprinted 1998 R1 sn # 0000296 delivered by Star Yee Yamaha Canada would kill a 2024 R9. Delivered in a crate to me with a 1 tooth larger countershaft sprocket. Paid 13k and would do 310kph. Killed every Hayabusa. Still have the brand new lower fairings for anyone who needs blue.
@Tophatjones358
@Tophatjones358 Ай бұрын
2:20 this was me in 1999 when I bought my R1 brand new when I was 18 years old… classic
@legendary_perfomance
@legendary_perfomance 27 күн бұрын
It's sad sport bikes are going away like racing quads but the average rider would struggle to reach the limit of a 20 year old 1000cc bike so the demand for a new 30k bike is useless to most people
@dannyp204
@dannyp204 Ай бұрын
As soon as I saw that they were making a 25, I put an order in for a 25 R1 Raven since my 05 R1 was stolen.
@joshlindemeier2434
@joshlindemeier2434 Ай бұрын
Superbike market from a 50 YO that has been involved when the original Superbike craze started with the Ninja, CBR, FZR and GSXR of the mid to late 80’s…Price…Price is the biggest draw back of new bikes…in the 90’s a person could easily afford and get financing for a sport bike working any entry level job…many of my friends in MN bought a brand new bike and had “winter beaters” to get through the winter. That just isn’t realistic anymore…also in MN we lost the yearly Superbike race at our Imternationally known track BIR (Brainerd International Raceway in Brainerd Minnesota). It all plays a part. In early 2000’s I saw a bit of a surge from younger generations but those groups quickly transitioned into choppers and more Harley Davidsons type bikes.
@jeffreykneeream8013
@jeffreykneeream8013 Ай бұрын
on point bro bro btw zero interest in the R9 my 2021 Yamaha MT09 SP is Dope
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