And that's if someone is expecting the other person is going to run at you imagine if you add a screaming baby, a lady cussing you out, lack of sleep, and low light.
@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
And don't forget the previous crime scene the cop just visited where they had to scrape some victim's dripping brain matter and blood off their shirt because a third of someone's head was blown off. And then you wonder why that officer is tired of your bullshit at the next scene.
@yourvehiclesextendedwarran89642 жыл бұрын
With all of those people recording your every move on video and looking for a reason to condemn police officers. I couldn’t even imagine.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
@@yourvehiclesextendedwarran8964 Chauvin did nothing wrong!
@ki58952 жыл бұрын
@@brettalexander220 I support cops but, that's just ignorant.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
@@ki5895 no its not, he did society a big favor. Took one of THOSE off the streets forever
@traveler15503 жыл бұрын
was taught that in my CCW class. what people never realize is that you as a moral person will still make that split-second decision to shoot.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
moral pondering can come later. if its me and my family under attack I would not hesitate to do what I had to do to protect us from an armed attacker. I'll cry about it later
@JohnSmith-ct5jd Жыл бұрын
"How do you always come out on top in so many gunfights?" "Well, son, no one was shooting back at you. I learned long ago that most men aren't willing. They will take a breath, bat an eye, before they pull a trigger. I won't." Lines from the John Wayne movie, The Shootist.
@analogdistortion3 жыл бұрын
This rule of 21 feet also assumes that the instant a bullet leaves the chamber the threat is eliminated like in the movies. I've seen plenty of videos where entire mags are unloaded on a person and they just carry on regardless with all the power to run, jump, and swing whatever weapon they have with lethal force.
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
That's called the Stress Response (Fight or Flight or Faint or Freeze) and it's part of everyone's genetic makeup from cave dwelling times and Saber-Toothed Tigers.
@analogdistortion2 жыл бұрын
@@zombieapocalypse3837 Yeah and it can be ultra-enhanced with drugs like PCP. Not that I recommend doing it :D
@ak-488 Жыл бұрын
watch police videos, they have the gun trained on a nut even at 50 feet, 21 ft crock means your giving your attacker a fighting chance to kill you.
@BETA00009 Жыл бұрын
@@ak-488that’s because police already know what’s going to happen. They literally have someone call 911 and say what’s happening. Which is not the case for a normal person with a ccw
@azimuth3614 жыл бұрын
For reference, 21 feet is about the width of a two-car garage. A two-car door is 16' wide and the additional width is about two or three more feet each side.
@nixon54522 жыл бұрын
Well I certainly won't be trying to stab someone in a garage! Thank you kind sir
@IskurBlast4 жыл бұрын
How exactly does a fact, the average man can cover 20ft in 1.5s, become an outdated concept.
@internetrules85224 жыл бұрын
i mean, think of it like this: if the police dont shoot and just let themselfs get killed, then the public will view them as much more compassionate, we must always refer to what the public would think of any action before taking such action. even if it will lead to the death of the entire counties police force. why do the police even need guns? that sounds like the job of the military.
@amaterasouplel7124 жыл бұрын
@@internetrules8522 Please don't reproduce
@internetrules85224 жыл бұрын
Amaterasoup Lel fine, I can see you must obviously be a supporter of fully-semi-automatic-weapons-of-ghost-recon-sniper-elite-war-150-magazine-drum-clips. Btw I was joking
@Baconatorz4 жыл бұрын
Well, people are much more obese these days. So the average time has gone up a bit.
@silversadie93424 жыл бұрын
Internet Rules This is sarcasm, right? Lol.
@jaredpoon58697 жыл бұрын
The tough thing is that public perception is often very, very wrong. Just from watching other people try to stop the 21 foot rule, it's clear that while you might be able to shoot a person at 21 feet, you will likely get stabbed. Now of course, there are times when police use too much force and are not prosecuted, and of course that's wrong, but people really overestimate how little time police really have. If you have to make a decision in 2 seconds, you react on instinct.
@joelarrarte84865 жыл бұрын
To the public everything is easy because it is in hindsight with context of the situation and outcome is already known. Put them in the situation where they need to evaluate and react and they would all go home in a body bag.
@RavenAdventwings4 жыл бұрын
@@joelarrarte8486 Let's see them survive a round of CS:GO, or even better, 5 minutes jumping into Pochinki.
@yewtewbstew5473 жыл бұрын
@@RavenAdventwings ngl I'm dead before I even see an enemy in CS:GO half the time lol.
@RavenAdventwings3 жыл бұрын
@@yewtewbstew547 You're better than me. I usually end up dead within 3 minutes almost every game. (lol)
@noncompliant43165 ай бұрын
As long as they apply the same standard to private citizens defending themselves or their family when finding someone within 21 feet of them in their house ... when they feel under threat.
@kbowers81112 жыл бұрын
When I took my concealed carry class the cop preached this same thing. On the range we had to draw from holster get 2 rounds on target as he ran up on us under a timer. If he taped your shoulder before 2 rounds on target you "died" no one "survived" id say the rule of thumb should by wider.
@TimeForDunston3 жыл бұрын
But what if the knife carrier doesn't charge directly at the cop, telegraphing his attack? What if the knife wielder keeps it concealed until he's close and then? Well... perhaps John Wick could handle it, but we can't all be John Wick, knives are dangerous, never underestimate your attacker just because you have a firearm.
@MiroPVP2 жыл бұрын
This is why police keep a distance from the suspect and will want see the suspects hands at all times
@snafu6737 жыл бұрын
In some situations there will not be obstacles that you can maneuver behind to block the assailant, that is even if the Officer sees the knife.
@davegrenier11606 жыл бұрын
That's true, but trainees have to be presented with scenarios in which cover and other obstacles are available in order to train them to use them when they are available. The training doesn't teach them that there's always cover, it teaches them to use it when it's tactically prudent. A smart officer will place an impediment between himself and a subject whenever possible and will not wait to see a weapon. He will not come out from behind cover unless necessary, or until the subject shows compliance with officer commands (such as "Get down on your belly and put your hands behind your back.").
@RandomCarrot28063 жыл бұрын
@@davegrenier1160 Cover just makes it harder to draw your gun and aim accurately in an enclosed space too though. Or were you talking about small things like a chair or table that the assailant would have to jump over?
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
now you see why the 1911 pistol was developed. Moro rebels were known to charge with knives under the influence of narcotic teas and drugs. 38 wasnt cutting it
@Shawn-rq4py3 жыл бұрын
We’re also taught to quickly take a step to the side as we draw and fire. If possible put something between the 2 to interrupt their run. At least my class was and we trained that way. So if someone was running full speed and we stepped to the side as we drew and got off one shot they couldn’t change course fast enough w o stumbling.
@jamesmcdaniel96012 жыл бұрын
@Shawn. But can you fire accurately to neutralize said threat? High stress situations usually make for lesser accuracy.
@Shawn-rq4py2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcdaniel9601 well anytime you have to use Deadly force it’s a high stress situation. But yes we practiced that move along w all other firearms training. When I was at the academy they had a nice piece of equipment which was detrimental to our training. If I can accurately describe it. It was a target w a medium sized frame body target w an extended arm holding a paintball gun/barrel. In the center of the target was a 1’x1’ steel target. It was set up on a timer and we had to fire a number of rounds, sometimes one & up to 3 rounds, onto the steel target within an allotted time frame. Up to 4 seconds if I remember correctly. When the instructor started the timer we had to put rounds on target accurately or the target would fire paintballs at us. There were many different drills but one was the side step & shoot. When we did that we had 2 seconds to get off one round on target before we were shot. That’s the only way I know of to hone in your firearms training. There’s extra incentive when the target can shoot back and there’s a timeframe. Even though it was only paintballs we still didn’t want to be hit. But yes you’re correct accuracy under high stress is what training is for.
@ak-488 Жыл бұрын
Ok Robo-cop ya gonna risk it, Attacker high on meth will stumble into you.
@JohnSmith-ct5jd Жыл бұрын
Right. When facing a knife, create distance.
@justinewert21663 жыл бұрын
Twitter brought me here after yesterday's shooting in Philly.
@cynthiabowling94373 жыл бұрын
Me too @Justin Ewert so what's your opinion here?
@Conker13373 жыл бұрын
the comment section of a lefty news site brought me here (no joke, even they have no words for that BLM riots)... xd
@MegensBay3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@cheekyqueefs3 жыл бұрын
You’re all autistic that nigga was mentally ill athere was two cops already having gun unholsterd they mowed that nigga down with 14 bullets that’s a gang violence shit yeah that guy was threat but they did use exsessive force
@likeabigboiii63243 жыл бұрын
Cinema summary brought me here. Or nerd explains I forget
@naardebioscoop6 жыл бұрын
Sgt Shannon Dillon sure is an engaging public speaker
@likeabigboiii63243 жыл бұрын
And fat as fuck
@moddedinkling41683 ай бұрын
What's even scarier is the "21 rule," which refers to the speed of which an assailant could reach a gun before it is drawn, at a distance of under 21 feet away. This cop survived because of the amount of time for the hatchet guy to step out of the car.
@codygordon52023 жыл бұрын
The public needs to side with law abiding law enforcement officers and quit pushing for criminal rights. If a danger is posed, ELIMINATE IT. Why do people care so much about protecting criminals? It doesn’t make sense.
@monkeyking98633 жыл бұрын
the police need to stop protecting murdering psychopaths just because they are officers
@seanreed94722 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyking9863 the police need to stop protecting murdering psychopaths just because they are BLM....fixed :)
@wesleydaub80022 жыл бұрын
What makes a Revolver an underrated handgun is that it can be directly pushed or punched into the threat without fear of your handgun being knocked out of battery and rendered useless. Even if you end up getting stabbed the knifer won't be doing so well after taking six .357 rounds to the chest or stomach.
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
provided you can put six rounds in center of mass quickly, with a kicking magnum.
@wesleydaub80022 жыл бұрын
@@zombieapocalypse3837 It would be easier said than done at a distance but if it were me or any other large man directly pushing the muzzle and barrel of the Revolver into the knife or club attacker's chest at full contact all that would need to be worried about is a tight grip on the Magnum and that it doesn't fly out of the hand/hands. One Magnum round hitting the aggressor is all that matters where as some people can take 14 rounds of 9mm and STILL be able to club or stab you before dying. I'll admit that when it comes to handguns I'm a huge Revolver fanboy but for a handgun defense against a melee assault I don't think that round capacity is going to be much of an issue when you're the only one in consideration with bullets. Six or seven rounds (with plus models) of pure carnage with no possiblity of a stove pipe or magazine feed jam seems ideal for a firearms based defense in this situation. You might have one or two bad Revolver rounds but a stove pipe or feed jam will leave you with only a knife, club or bare fists to defend yourself with and the odds of every round in a cylinder being all duds are beyond very low.
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
@@wesleydaub8002 Remember the Stress Response (Fight or Flight or Faint or Freeze) and it's part of everyone's genetic makeup from cave dwelling times and Saber-Toothed Tigers. Unless you can hit their off switch it doesn't matter what kind of gun it is, magnum or not, it's shot placement, either the left ventricle(heart) or the brain and you have to do it quickly under duress.
@mkaberli7 жыл бұрын
The "public" isn't the one who is facing a man armed with a knife. The life and well being of the "public" isn't being threatened.
@percivalconcord92096 жыл бұрын
mkaberli But the safety of a police officer is being threatened and a threat to a police officer might hinder a police officers ability to safeguard public safety.
@laineyparker64034 жыл бұрын
Absolutely it is because that officer could be what’s between innocent people and the assailant.
@RavenAdventwings4 жыл бұрын
You must live in a nice gated neighborhood.
@massimo43079 ай бұрын
@@laineyparker6403That cop could be the one infringing an innocent person's rights. In which case, he is the threat to tbe public that needs to be disposed of. And quickly.
@xxxxWARPATHxxxx7 жыл бұрын
If you think that you can just "talk it out" with a suspect with a Deadly Weapon, I would hate to see your police officers test your theory.
@badgershade81194 жыл бұрын
Just sit down and have some tea with the perp with an edged weapon. WhAt CoUlD gO wRoNg???
@TitanFlare4 жыл бұрын
@@badgershade8119 it is possible to talk it out and it will probably end well, but that's the job of a trained negotiator with years of experience. It's completely impractical for people to expect every police officer in the country to be an expert on crisis negotiation
@badgershade81194 жыл бұрын
@@TitanFlare Yeah.
@zogworth3 жыл бұрын
Our police do usually do that yes.
@ItAbel-xy3xk3 жыл бұрын
This comment is relevant with the recent shooting, they wanted the cop to de escalate and talk down when the stabbing was attemped about 10 seconds after the cop pulled up.
@deplorabledave10482 жыл бұрын
I did armed security at a strip mall inn Miami graveyard shift. ANYBODY with out vehicle up after midnight was up to no good and potential threat. A large number of people IN vehicles were also up to no good and potential threats. To remain safe, I: 1) Kept the golf cart between me and potential attackers. (which were most people at that hour). There were seriously mentally ill, violent,. homeless who would often scream at me to "shoot them". Lots of armed drug dealers. 2) Got certified in ASP baton and SABRE RED OC spray. Carried both. Sometimes had them in my LEFT hand, leaving my right hand free to switch to lethal (Glock 9mm 124gr +P JHP Speer Gold Dot) means if needed. 3) Approached any vehicle from the rear and always assumed there was someone in the back seat who could shoot me. Windrows were so heavily tinted that you were stupid not to take the back seat in to consideration. 4) Realize that the local bad guys would shoot you in A SECOND and think nothing of it since you are ONLY armed security. The entire police population do NOT hunt for the murderer of an private armed security person. 5) If something were really sketchy, I would disable the retention loop on my holster and have my hand ON my gun. 6) Take all the tactical course you can and be deadly accurate, all the time, every time. Smooth is fast. 7) Became a Firearms Instructor. I sometimes taught LEO's to shoot better. Much better. 8) Take a medics course and carry a medical kit. For YOURSELF, not any bad guys. Ever. (Because: So MANY legal reasons) 9) KNOW the laws and carry your own body cam. NEVER use profanity. Call the worst scum of the earth "Sir or M'am or Miss"!! Be polite. Right up until it is time to act. Act swiftly and silently. 10) Quit after two years, and get a job at a high end condominium in a good area of Fort Lauderdale where you are INSIDE behind locked doors with a large bank of cameras in front of you.
@randybarnett82263 жыл бұрын
I'm a firearm instructor and a defensive edged weapons instructor, this 21 ft. rule is an old thought process that is not accurate. You would need to add another 10 ft. for the element of surprise, unlike this current video where the officer knows what is going to happen, also add another 10 ft. for the assailants momentum. This distance is now over 40 ft.
@ariawebster94053 жыл бұрын
Add feet for element of surprise? Wouldn’t it be reduce?
@seanreed94722 жыл бұрын
Just curious, where did you get your edged blade training? It was Inosanto system for me, 2 years.
@johnschwartz36412 жыл бұрын
@@ariawebster9405 if there is no weapon showing add feet to give you time to react
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
@@ariawebster9405 No, more distance between you and potential threat increases your safety, for the moment.
@TheNutriarat7 жыл бұрын
Fuck what they "expect". I expect I will go home to my wife at the end of my shift. Moral of this story?......don't pull a knife on me.
@wh56866 жыл бұрын
find a new profession
@nesano47356 жыл бұрын
Trolls are always the same.
@povilaspovilas11296 жыл бұрын
Fully agree with you. In Lithuania we have even stricter rulles, but police dont hasitate to use deadlly force, and everybody knows what dangerous is that work. I have my licence to carry, and i know that even gun doesn't garantee my nothing
@mitchconner20146 жыл бұрын
i think it's completely fair for the public to have expectations of those who are supposed to "protect and serve." if you're that worried about gettin stabbed, then maybe dont be a police officer?
@davegrenier11606 жыл бұрын
In America, Americans have rights. Among those rights are the rights to life and the right to due judicial process. We do not hire police officers to protect themselves, we hire them to protect the communities they serve, including suspects who are not guilty until proven so in court (due process). The teaching "your job is to go home safely at the end of your shift" is wrong-headed. Anyone who wants to remain (relatively) safe should not become a cop. It's a dangerous job. But they don't become judge, jury, and executioner just because they have a badge. Police should be held to a higher standard than civilians in a use of force incident for several reasons: 1.) they're trained in the legal technicalities of use of force and therefore should know better when lethal force is allowed, and when it is not; 2.) they carry multiple weapons on their belts, giving them a spectrum of force available to meet a threat with like force (unlike the armed civilian who often has just a knife or a gun - no baton, no taser) 3.) they wear (or should be wearing) body armor, unlike nearly all civilians, and are therefore better protected from some weapons; 4.) they work (or should work) in pairs and have on-call back-up (that is often alerted as an incident develops), something not available to civilians; and 5.) because they are hired and paid to protect us, and not to shoot one of us accidentally every now and then.
@Bwanar127 күн бұрын
And an officer can brandish his gun. Imagine how tough it is as a citizen to protect yourself and still stay within the laws!
@PiscosAmerica2 ай бұрын
In the great words of Chael Sonnen “I can’t let you get close” With that being said 21 foot rule indicates you mag dump them, reload and repeat until threat is neutralized. Average person can close that distance of 21 feet around 3 seconds.
@tyb25264 жыл бұрын
Having untrained civilians judging the actions of law enforcement is never a good idea. The majority of civilians have never been involved in an incident that threatened their life, and they are not acquainted with the violence that law enforcement encounters everyday. Most civilians also lack the disposition necessary to be a police officer. They know nothing of real violence, and the reason they are so ignorant is because men (police officers) are willing to do violence on their behalf. These administrations trying to coddle the emotions of the public should be ashamed of themselves. Woe to those who justify the wicked and vilify the righteous.
@THEBLACKANARCHIST3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo this guy. Cops are WORTHLESS
@monkeyking98633 жыл бұрын
you do know cops are not gods right?
@seanreed94722 жыл бұрын
@@THEBLACKANARCHIST Scumbags like you are worthless.
@seanreed94722 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyking9863 No, they are normal people doing a difficult job.
@monkeyking98632 жыл бұрын
@@seanreed9472 you might have a point if they didnt actively fire police who reported bad behavior of other officers
@kamara47004 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2020 during the riots - 4 years later. Seems like nothings changed
@johns96524 жыл бұрын
Aye, I just cited this video on another video on a Timcast video about the Atlanta situation.
@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
Yep criminals still as violent towards police as always. But now they get statues for it. Sad.
@nemomarcus5784 Жыл бұрын
The difference between a gun and a knife is that you have to aim to hit your target with a gun. Shoving a knife into someone's gut doesn't require aiming because the hand knows where to go immediately. A murderer can thrust a series of 10 knife cuts in the time it takes someone to draw, aim and fire their gun.
@Alex-rn5hz3 жыл бұрын
ohhhhh hear that Philly !?
@RJS1966USMC2 жыл бұрын
The 21 foot "rule" will never change, no matter what "policy" says. It is a fact that an attacker can cover that distance before anyone can draw and fire a single round. It's physics and human ability. Awareness of this capability must be experienced to convince police officers and civilians that danger can get to you faster than you think.
@verticle26126 сағат бұрын
This is all great, if you’re a police officer, but try this as a civilian and you’ll go to jail for 5-15 years. Remember this, I’d rather be judged by 11 than carried by 6.
@badgershade81194 жыл бұрын
Self defense is not outdated.
@Coffee17762 жыл бұрын
It is if you're a liberal.
@noncompliant43165 ай бұрын
As long as they apply the same standard to private citizens defending themselves or their family when finding someone within 21 feet of them in their house ... when they feel under threat.
@routeterror1236 Жыл бұрын
If there’s a guy standing 21 feet away from you with a knife, and he’s preparing to charge, your gun should already be out of its holster and aimed at him
@pyroparagon89452 жыл бұрын
While police always carry cocked and locked, for most CC carriers the distance is even farther. Many would have to draw, rack, aim... I'm a fast draw, but I'd need more room.
@inkednpierced4u53 Жыл бұрын
If you don't carry with a round chambered you are wrong.
@Squarehead455 жыл бұрын
Police has to make a decision is a split second that lawyers and the Corrupt Media can take MONTHS to tear apart or condemn.
@jannora47255 жыл бұрын
Most of these “experts” would poop in their pants when faced with similar circumstances.
@Torgo19693 жыл бұрын
Massad Ayoob discusses the use of this exact reasoning in a trial from several decades ago, and it was successful. The ratio between the time allowed to the accused police officer and the time allowed to the lawyers and jury is a very powerful fact.
@monkeyking98633 жыл бұрын
@Führer des Benutzers except the majority of the time they aint criminals
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
@@Torgo1969 Massad Ayoob is my HERO from the 1980s and still today.
@FrankBevins-kh7mqАй бұрын
Who the hell would run at a police officer like that. Maybe someone harassed and encouraged to do that
@maxrees84456 жыл бұрын
As an officer or civilian learning to draw and shoot under 1second is critical. Speed is a tactic that saves lives.
@seanreed94722 жыл бұрын
Correct. Everyone goes to the range and shoots paper, but few practice getting out and on target. I used to, late at night so no one could see me, looked like something out of Taxi Driver, LOL.
@panzerdeal87277 ай бұрын
Assuming A] there is NO obsticles behind the officers, and B] The opponet can't THROW the knife....
@stargazer2042 Жыл бұрын
Officers have a rough job. When you call them to rescue you, they are putting their lives on the line.
@neongirl Жыл бұрын
The best solution is dodge the attack. No need to stand like a pillar and aim at the aggressor while he is running towards you. You draw your pistol while moving to the side to let your attacker pass. Inertia in any case will not allow him to immediately change direction. At this point, you increase the distance and open fire.
@robinworkman36213 жыл бұрын
What happens if the person with the gun side steps or backs up while drawing and shooting?
@Alex-vz2jz3 жыл бұрын
That won't change much. The enemy has their eyes on you and will do everything in their power to hurt you. Because this officer hasn't drawn his weapon yet, the time it takes for him to draw his gun and move at the same time again isn't enough, like the video stated it takes about 2 seconds for the man to cover that distance. In many situations like this many officers already have their weapons drawn if they get a call saying their is a man with a knife. Side steps could work but you don't want to trip on your own feet or something and get yourself killed. Its happen where a cop was shot point blank while his partner couldn't react in time and when he did he slipped and fell then both were shortly killed by a shot in the head and chest area. All on captured on footage.
@captaincodebook32002 жыл бұрын
The 21 foot rule is an awareness rule. DON'T KEEP YOUR FEET PLANTED AND WAIT FOR THE ASSAILANT! Move and shoot.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
cutting the vine is also a useful tactic, cover to cover in a semicircular pattern
@ThinkTwice2222Ай бұрын
You assume I know he has a knife
@ChipLinck Жыл бұрын
What I expect is the officer orders someone with a weapon to stop. If they don't stop, it's fair game. Putting restrictions on officers just lets people know they can get away with actin' a fool.
@5ohstang126 жыл бұрын
Justified anyone?
@flightofthebumblebee95295 жыл бұрын
Hell yes! Lol.
@johnj.baranski65535 жыл бұрын
Danny Crow
@nc27905 жыл бұрын
hahahahha
@sammgaming6765 жыл бұрын
Yep
@jarrellmckenna29884 жыл бұрын
Swear Danny I would have warned you if I knew . I didn’t see it either
@JC-jk3kl2 ай бұрын
It is not a rule nor the 21-foot "rule." It is called the Tueller Drill developed by former officer Dennis Tueller.
@gregorymceaddy8884 Жыл бұрын
The best way is to deviate the straight line attack by creating an angle to make the perp change direction....it's all about situational awareness
@Desperado3248 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. See my comment. Your feet are not glued to the floor
@hollyrock9114 ай бұрын
THEY ARE DISTORTING REALITY. ANY OFFICER WOULD HAVE DONE TAKEN 10 STEPS BACK AS HE IS RUSHED OR SIDE STEPPED, HE DOES NOT JUST STAND THERE
@snrnsjd7 ай бұрын
In real life situation, when officers do not see the weapon and the attacker is closer and does a surprise attack...the outcome is much different and worse
@robertcarney79284 жыл бұрын
All this shows is that it is best practice to draw your weapon and be ready if you think someone might run at you with their knife. Not that you should shoot them. Just be ready.
@Darkestdarkify2 жыл бұрын
I mean from a legal standpoint they can claim they were defending themselves from your knife in panic with the only defense against your gun a measly knife
@moontan915 ай бұрын
that is why officers should be trained in martial arts.
@Desperado3248 Жыл бұрын
Here is where the argument falls apart. If you stand in one spot, his momentum in a straight line will carry him in. Move in a circular motions, firing as you move , he will lose momentum as he changes direction to track you. You keep shooting as you move and he will go down
@frogdude21XXX Жыл бұрын
I don't know if the aim of this piece was to attempt to debunk defensive shooting, but I assure you, there are simple methods to defeat close-quarters edged weapon attacks when armed with a firearm. I could show these officers (or anyone who knows how to operate their firearm) how to do it in less than 30 seconds. ✌🐸💨
@tax905972 Жыл бұрын
The general public isn’t trained to be a police officer.
@dwightbernheimer3314 жыл бұрын
That's why, you warn the person once, and if they blink, 2 to the body, 1 to the Head. You'd be surprised at the number of people legally carrying firearms that have no idea what the 21 foot rule is....
@allencrist57974 ай бұрын
It's not a rule. It's a drill. It's a guideline.
@rickreynolds5015 Жыл бұрын
It has been found by police that it should be 33 feet for the officer to actually get an aimed shot
@frostyrobot7689Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Raylan Givens settled this one...
@emeraldstories35863 жыл бұрын
"The officer can back up... or put a table in front of him" Or he could have his gun drawn, that would work too.
@wadesworld62503 жыл бұрын
They get criticized for having their gun drawn too. "All he had was a knife - there was no need to have your gun out."
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
@@wadesworld6250 What's the old saying, "better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6"
@TheBuddyLama3 жыл бұрын
In the example suggesting the officer should back up or take cover behind an obstacle, the threat was obvious, the subject was brandishing a weapon, and the officer had drawn his gun and was already aiming it at the subject. If the officer already has his gun out and is pointing at the subject, distance becomes less of an issue or a non-issue, and cover is unnecessary. (Chit has already got real.)
@deplorabledave10482 жыл бұрын
Agreed. If your gun is already drawn, You need to be planted and ONLY concerned about AIMING AND TRIGGER CONTROL. More peace...from better accuracy.
@jefferygreen4740 Жыл бұрын
The 21 foot rule came about during trining, but is NOT A RULE. It's a basic of reaction time. The 21' rule was based on training on a range, with no intervening factor, the officer is aware of the threat is dressed with no hinderance for the use of the weapon.
@shoebert31 Жыл бұрын
Danny Crowe taught me this
@althreedthree13753 жыл бұрын
That’s not the point The point is if he is running at you before you draw your weapon Of course if your weapon is already drawn you have a chance 21 foot tueller principal was the concept that you have not yet drawn your weapon
@johnmooney9444 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as the "21' rule". It's the result of a test using experienced police officers. It is the absolute minimum distance required by a trained individual, who knows what is about to happen, for a self-defense reaction. The actual distance for a trained professional in a real life situation required to effectively recognize and react to a threat is at least twice that distance. For a civilian, such myself, figure 70 ft or more.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
magnum revolvers really shine in a charging assailant situation, one maybe two shots and done. these 9mm arent cutting it
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
What if it's dark, the muzzle flash will ruin your night vision. Do you wear your ear plugs/muffs all the time if not there goes your hearing. Two out the 5 senses, and in this case the very two senses you definitely need at the moment. So there better be only one attacker and you better hit him with a lethal shot the first time.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
@@zombieapocalypse3837 Magnums tend to destroy limbs and craniums, there wouldn't need to be a second shot.
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
@@brettalexander220 Gotta get that first shot on target though, shot placement. And when adrenaline is surging through one's body and the 'fight or flight' response that is hardwired into everyone isn't tamed by realistic training things tend to go awry.
@brettalexander2202 жыл бұрын
@@zombieapocalypse3837 thats more on the shooter than the type of gun itself.
@skipmars7979 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Kung-Fu classes are in order.
@arsenic37142 жыл бұрын
It would be better if there were multiple people and every time a random person would attack whilst other things going on in the background
@eeNORMous1 Жыл бұрын
Damn cops have it bad
@rjmprod Жыл бұрын
What are you gonna drive and also stepped inside, so he can get the shot off and get out of the way of still attacking knife man..!
@ciscokidkid65802 жыл бұрын
Funny and some states say you need ten rounds only. Gun control is stupid.
@rdg12443 жыл бұрын
How about a 1000 lumen pistol light? Will that do anything?
@Vladpryde3 жыл бұрын
More of these rioting clowns in Philly need to see this. And they need to stop getting their information from Hollywood action movies. It's called LETHAL Force.....not Wounding Force.
@THEBLACKANARCHIST3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo this guy
@Vladpryde3 жыл бұрын
@@THEBLACKANARCHIST I said nothing wrong. What part of LETHAL Force do you not understand? Or do you think police self-defense work should be based on Hollywood action movies?
@THEBLACKANARCHIST3 жыл бұрын
@@Vladpryde I think all pigs should get slaughtered but that's just my opinion
@Vladpryde3 жыл бұрын
@@THEBLACKANARCHIST So you didn't contribute anything constructive here, just tough guy talk from a radical Left-wing nutjob. Thanks for playing Chairman Mao.
@danilsmith72922 жыл бұрын
nice with the experement
@nighttrails2walk Жыл бұрын
Since when is the criminal the victim? Go woke get poked.
@Falconing894 жыл бұрын
Just standard tactic for any Cod Apex Csgo players
@ethandumas69374 жыл бұрын
What about private citizians do i.have to give my killer or rapist more advanrage than the 21 feer?
@Torgo19693 жыл бұрын
Massad Ayoob has many videos available (some on youtube) but he emphasizes Ability, Opportunity, and Jeopardy as the 3 criteria justifying deadly force, and all 3 must be present. If you use deadly force in self-defense and are prosecuted, you MUST be able to articulate to the judge and jury the facts. Such as the studies that demonstrate 21 feet in 1.5 seconds as the long-established baseline for an average knife-wielding assailant's ability. He also warns that MANY defense attorneys are not familiar with defending innocent clients, and such an attorney should be fired. There are organizations such as USCCA that have a number of specialized deadly-force attorneys, so I am a dues-paying member of that organization.
@jerrycraig65224 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have that same measure deal, I should have got the one with the bigger wheel!!!
@scottdunkirk819823 күн бұрын
A MINIMUM OF 21 FEET
@lorenzolohman4513 жыл бұрын
You might learn or teach them to side step an attacker. And knife defense from martial artists standpoint.
@Simon-lq5uk3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's kinda one thing I noticed. The officer doing the scenario didn't even try to dodge or sidestep the guy with the fake knife. Obviously you don't just wanna shoot and be stationary. You wanna attack and move away at the same time to increase your chances of survival.
@matilda68513 жыл бұрын
That’s not the point of the experiment tho. They’re showing you how easily someone can close the gap, not how to avoid it
@BenderdickCumbersnatch3 жыл бұрын
I have a different, kinda novel idea: Don't charge at police with a knife if you want to live. Is that too much to ask of some dumb people of certain groups?
@michaelshanahan4965Ай бұрын
Problem with this of course, it’s a setup and the officer knows what he’s going to do and is waiting for him. If you’re surprised (more than likely) and the weapon is concealed (more than likely) this wouldn’t e close. Situational awareness is your real defense.
@emeraldstories35863 жыл бұрын
If you're in that situation shouldn't your gun already be out? Seems pretty stupid to be giving them an advantage by keeping it holstered.
@conundrumconundrum55896 жыл бұрын
I KNEW THIS DAY WAS COMING, PUBLIC OPINION MORE IMPORTANT THAT FACT, REALITY AND SCIENCE. WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT TO BE A COP GIVEN THAT ATTITUDE. YOU WILL DIE STUPIDLY AND NEVER MIND THE ONES THAT LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES TO LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES. CALL THE UNREALISTIC SOBs FROM PERF NEXT TIME YOU NEED SOMEONE TO SAVE YOUR LIFE. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IS IN THEIR POLICY. LET THE LAWSUITS INCREASE AND WE THE CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY OUT MORE AND MORE. THE PUBLIC OPINION USE OF FORCE POLICY WILL CAUSE THE POLICE TO LOSE COURT EVERY TIME. THE POLICE MIGHT AS WELL SHUT THE DOORS AND GO HOME. WOW!
@jbonegw6 жыл бұрын
conundrum conundrum unfortunately too much of society is oblivious to reality as they watch time pass by sheltered under their rocks.
@lostinthemoonlight4 жыл бұрын
IRL: Person is unarmed, cop shoots anyway, sprinkles crack.
@christopherkilian88264 жыл бұрын
Dave Chappele?
@mjohnstonflying Жыл бұрын
before the media went totally woke.
@Hunter-dl1gd4 жыл бұрын
Assuming there is more space in the house or outside no one accounts for the shooter to just backup a few steps when the running starts lol
@Torgo19693 жыл бұрын
Good point, as a civilian I practice at the range shooting at 7 yards with both hands on the pistol, but I practice shooting from retention at 5 yards.
@poorsvids47383 жыл бұрын
Might I sugest agin, a skul-gun for my head. Yesterday in Batery Park, some scum we all know pushes smack for NSF gets jumpy and draws. I take 2 .22's, 1 in flesh, 1 in augs, befor I can get out that dam asalt gun. If I could kil just by thought, it would be beter. Is it my job to be a human target-practis backstop?
@adamweber15457 ай бұрын
And it should be generally accepted that a private citizen (civilian) needs more than 21 feet to react for self defense because they don’t have police training, so they are more vulnerable.
@billfast6 жыл бұрын
Are these depts trying to get their cops killed?
@IskurBlast4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@tyb25264 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when old fat guys sitting behind a desk try to neuter the guys putting in the work.
@michaellopez-lq5fn4 жыл бұрын
If the guy with the knife is in a dead sprint you can probably side step as you’re drawing and gain some time
@JohnMaxGriffin4 жыл бұрын
The only problem with sidestepping is it’s horrible for first shot accuracy. And that’s a shot you HAVE to land right on target, or else sidestepping ain’t gonna do shit for you
@Torgo19693 жыл бұрын
@@JohnMaxGriffin It may be horrible for 1st-shot accuracy, but then again the assailant is going to be maybe 2-3 yards away instead of the original 7 yards. Might this be a mitigating factor to improve accuracy?
@jamesstpatrick84932 жыл бұрын
Don't use gun, use your hands
@Investing_WithDrake_Culver3 жыл бұрын
2nd step use a flame thrower
@orgoon76974 жыл бұрын
Годно, спасибо
@likeabigboiii63243 жыл бұрын
Pojolste
@theresamusic33732 жыл бұрын
Against a trained Marksman no go.
@nickportlock27963 жыл бұрын
Hope blm in philly are watching this.
@user-bx3hz6wl5m9 күн бұрын
In addition, backing up is a stupid idea. You never move where you can't see.
@chrissawyer40603 жыл бұрын
That's when I wouldn't be drawing my pistol but meet their momentum with a solid front kick and the stick. If someone brings a knife to a gunfight you better bet they know how to use it.
@possemis3 жыл бұрын
this is the dumbest thing i heard all day, good luck fighting a knife wielding criminal in hand to hand.
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
Good Luck with that.
@thomascapitalmgt4 жыл бұрын
Cops should train DAILY with quick draw, etc. I do weekly and I am a civilian...........Practice Jeff Cooper's technique....
@OCLVIG4 жыл бұрын
In the martial arts it has always been 25 feet.
@chasa43476 жыл бұрын
Let's see; 21 feet may not be enough to keep you from getting stabbed, but John Q. Public thinks that is too far? Glad I'm not a LEO in this day and age. :(
@martijnt62623 ай бұрын
👍
@KaiTenSatsuma3 жыл бұрын
Is that Alex Jones?
@marcgiles-sims66823 жыл бұрын
Who just stands there
@zombieapocalypse38372 жыл бұрын
It's called the Stress Response (Fight or Flight or Faint or Freeze) and everyone responds in one of these four ways under duress.