21 Reasons the Flood Didn't-Did-Didn't Happen (feat. Purple Dan) - (Ken) Ham & AiG News

Ken Ham and his team have a bi-weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
We join Ken Ham, Dr. Andrew Snelling, and Dr. Georgia Purdom as they discuss 21 reasons the Flood never happened.
Purple Dan
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Twenty-One Reasons Noah’s worldwide flood never happened
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[@PurpleDan]

Thank you for having me on Paul, it was super fun! Great job with the B-roll as well!

[@JohnnyDrivebye]

Hey Dan Good to see you again bud! I haven't checked your channel for a while. Cheers M8!

[@sammy4231]

Thanks for your work refuting pseudoscience. Check my thing on the cockroach with ever-decreasing ovipositor in ever higher strata, disproving Creationist flood theory. I hope you can use it. The writing is rough. I'm going to tune it up tonight. // Currently on earth, we have about 4,600 cockroach species. I didn't try to look up the number of extinct species we find fossilized. In the oldest layers down to archimylacris eggintoni, the earliest known roach, we find female cockroaches had long ovipositors. As we look through higher and higher strata, ovipositors of all species get shorter and shorter down to zero length. From this, we know Noah carried (X) species on the ark, say about 25,000? And, he had them arranged by ovipositor length. And, as the ark sailed along, each day he threw the species with the longest ovipositors overboard; until the ark grounded with the 4,500 species lacking ovipositors we see today. That part of the story is in the Hebrew texts Emperor Constantine wouldn't allow into his Bible. He didn't like the symbol for ovipositor. It looked like a vagina on a stick. \\

[@Involent]

Speaking of the B-roll, who is the hottie with the tea kettle?

[@Uzicide]

Love your videos, bro. Your "Kent Hovind Does Theory" series is one of my personal favorites.

[@NIGHTMARE-zy7tq]

I would love to see a debate you vs Dr. Andrew Snelling, I think you would have him crying.

[@ferociousfeind8538]

Creationists reasoning for the Grand Canyon being formed during the Flood is like reasoning that you can bake cookies in the oven at 4,000,000 degrees for four seconds and they'll come out just the same

[@HConstantine]

I watched two dinosaurs build a nest in my guttering last year; it recently blew down in a storm and is still sitting on my patio.

[@codeyamos]

Ken Ham is a master of Projection.

[@Luubelaar]

If he projected any more, he'd be an IMAX theatre.

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

@@Luubelaar lool!!!😆

[@DoctorBastard]

Seasonal hire, when the ark gets really busy, sometimes seeing nine... Possibly ten visitors a week.

[@DoctorBastard]

Clade Starfish Don't forget the cleaner, he counts, and the girl who delivers the water each Thursday.

[@DoctorBastard]

Clade Starfish I suspect you are correct sir. And Ken of course, can't forget our Ken.

[@KingQwertzlbrmpf]

The depressing thing is that the Ark actually is seeing way more traffic than this. Especially homeschooling groups and such come to the Ark. It's still far below what ken ham expected and i'd be surprised if it brings in any profit, but it's still far too succesful for the sake of humanity.

[@Redhunteur2]

Jesus: "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Ken Ham: "If you're not in my personal bubble-club, you don't get a job to feed your family."

[@oliviawilliams6204]

That’s actually pretty coherent if you accept that neighbors don’t mean all humans, just people sharing the same religion. It’s like the 10 commandments, because Hebrew didn’t have punctuation we do, it’s now taught that the whole steal, kill, adultery was grouped together and came with your neighbors addendum. Otherwise in that context, don’t kill an Israelites, don’t steal from an Israelites etc. And so killing the Canaanite a little later don’t break the commandments

[@lostximagination]

"Has anyone seen a dinosaur build a nest!" Sure! Lots of people. They're called bird watchers. Haha

[@TheEyez187]

🤭🤭🤭

[@scotted3140]

There is an argument against the ark that everyone seems to miss , as I grew up on a farm with lots of livestock i can’t help but pay attention to food storage , I’m telling you from a lifetime of experience of growing & harvesting enough food just to see our small farm though each winter takes a lot of space. Ken Ham loves to boast on how big the Ark is , but from where I’m sitting it looks pretty small to me. Next time you drive pass a dairy farm just pull over side the road & pay attention to there food storage & do some quick calculations in your head @ just remember these dairy farm don’t have that many animals compared to what would have been on the Ark. Paul you could do an episode on Food Storage.

[@VitalVampyr]

My favorite factoid disproving Noah's Ark is that the volume of two adults of every known extant species of beetle is greater than the total volume of the Ark.

[@scotted3140]

VitalVampyr Exactly this Ark can be disproved in so many ways it’s unbelievable that these adults actually buy into this.

[@scotted3140]

Marilyn Newman Multiple that by 900 head of cattle 500 head of just breeding stock of hogs 30 chickens 2 horses 4 dogs & the Ark would have had far more animals than these numbers which is approximately the number I grew up with , base on my experience, if you fill the ark with animals then you would need at least another three Ark’s for food storage.

[@wadespencer3623]

Not to mention GETTING the food to the animals. 8 people are going to get this food to every animal on board? And making it keep for the trip. Somebody with experience, tell me how long the feed will last without refrigeration when it's constantly wet and raining. The plant matter might be fine since hay and such can be dried (even if a ton of these animals won't eat hay and a lot are more specialized) but what kind of fruit and meat can last a year? I wouldn't eat a steak I had in my FREEZER for that long.

[@scotted3140]

Wade Spencer Ken Ham says that there was no such thing as meat eaters so it has to be grass or grain on our family farm we have 4 gain silos just 1 of them is half the size of the Ark so can say we have the space of 2 Ark dedicated to grain storage alone & that does not last a year we always have to buy more grain to finish out the year & im not talking about hay or silage that would be the space of another 2or 3 Arks

[@Coramelimane]

the hipocracy in ham's logic is astounding.

[@jamesdownard1510]

It's a knee-slapper hearing Ken Ham decry people "regurgitating information" they don't understand or fact check when that is THE modality of Ken Ham and his AiG. Yipes! Another nifty video.

[@chezeus1672]

i didn't really get it. do they now or do they continue not to hire toilet attendants who are more educated than their CEO?

[@renardleblanc5556]

I think it's a bit of both: the ones who know provide soundbite arguments to the ones who don't. They don't need arguments that are logically sound, they just have to sound legit enough to be convincing, to people who don't know.

[@anungodlyamountofcereal6384]

When that guy mentioned salt deposits,he defeated one of AiG's arguments,they've said if the Earth were millions of years old the oceans would be too salty cause salt doesn't leave the ocean,he demonstrated that the salt just piles up at the bottom. They have no consistency. Big surprise

[@robertjacobs4369]

Paul, it is a seriously a pleasure to watch your videos. I was a tad shocked on the ability of AIG to control the Alberta home school association. however, as we know those who yell the most are those who are the most frighten ..Keep up the fight sir

[@coffeeman8590]

Ken Ham is to biology what Stephen Hawkins was to track and field.

[@PaulThomas-qb9cx]

🤣 Ouch. That one tripped me up.

[@BoHolbo]

Did someone notice what Dr. giggles said at 9:57? This is the first time I’ve heard her actually say creationist scientists. Not creation scientists! FINALLY! I hope she keeps it up, and that all her deluded catches on!

[@Payne2view]

02:00 "not mature in all their thinking"... well I'm not a young person so the maturity of my thinking isn't the reason I don't hold to a 6000 year time limit for the age of the universe. Of course I can't tell Ken that directly, since in the maturity of his thinking he blocked me from his Twitter account.

[@billyjacobs190]

Aron yesterday and Paulogia today. Its a good week.

[@BenchTheGoblin]

One of the Nails in the coffin for YEC for me has been ancient sea life fossils. Im fotunate to be able to fossil hunt pretty regularly and the fossils I find, trilobites, brachipods (those sea shells Ham likes to bring up) coral and cephlopods are everywhere. tons of primative sea life, but no reptiles or mammals. no human fossils in these layers. nothing the YEC model predicts should be mixed in there IS NOT THERE. i keep looking for some out of place fossil but i keep confirming the scientific model that supports Evolution and an old earth. Everyone educated in this Ive asked have shook their heads in laughter at a 6,000 year old earth. Fossils do not support Young Earth Creationism

[@mrtron1850]

But...but the Flood did it.

[@4uartaOnda]

Some of the YEC dont believe in fossils...

[@richtomlinson7090]

My grandfather took up fossil hunting in Florida after his retirement from being a Chemistry professor, and I trusted him. He would talk to or write letters to those that actually did this for a living, and he would arrange displays for the Bradenton museum and I'm sure he didn't find ancient technology hammers, and people footprints alongside Dinosaur eggs, like the Ken Ham types might claim.

[@renardleblanc5556]

YE Creationist police work: "We found DNA evidence, boot prints, and tire tracks at the scene of the murder." Conclusions? "No witnesses; the victim died in the flood." Case closed.

[@20july1944]

Renard: You're right -- YECs are painfully stupid, to the point they seem dishonest. Where do you think the universe came from?

[@fred_derf]

+20july1944, writes _"Where do you think the universe came from?"_ I have no idea. The prevailing scientific consensus is that the universe (time/space) expanded from a singularity some 13.8 billion years ago. I don't have the math to dispute them, but no one with the math disputes them who doesn't have an ulterior motive, so I accept it as the most likely explanation at this time. That fact that "we" don't know where the singularity came from (or if that's even a sensical question) doesn't open the possibility to just stick god in there and claim "god did it". "I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer. "I don't know so god did it" is not a valid answer. And it's an answer that, time and time again, has proven to be wrong.

[@renardleblanc5556]

@20july1944 I don't think "stupid" is the right word. They're convicted, that's not the same thing. Thing is, human understanding isn't just a collection of true/false facts... everything we know is connected to everything else we know. When we learn something new, we have to fit it in with everything else we already know, and we tend to accept/reject things based on how well we can incorporate it into our existing knowledge. So, a YEC has this whole jigsaw puzzle of their impression of the world. A fact like "the Earth is 6 billion years old" is a puzzle piece that doesn't fit with anything they already know, so they have to choose between believing this one fact, asserted by people they don't trust, and believing absolutely everything they already know. Whenever I hear stories from former fundamentalists, (Paul included, IIRC, also Viced Rhino, and others), one thing that often comes up is that they start out convinced in the bible, but the more information they look at, the harder it is to hold on to their original beliefs. Eventually there's just too many jigsaw puzzle pieces that don't fit, and they come to realize that they had the wrong picture to start with. Asking someone to overturn their whole entire mental picture of the universe is not a small thing. I wouldn't expect anyone to do so based on any one individual fact. It's more a process of steady erosion than one cataclysmic event (which is why I don't put stock in "arguments that destroy atheism/creationism in 2 minutes." or other click-baitey titles). Personally, I don't think the question "where did the universe come from" is a meaningful one... You may as well ask "where did purple come from?" Besides; before the moment of the big bang, there was no "where," and "come from" implies that something/someplace existed before the existence of the universe. For that matter, you cant really use the phrase "before the big bang," because "before" implies time, which didn't exist until the big either. Honestly, the state of existence before the big bang, I imagine, would be so different from current reality that we may not have the faculties to comprehend it's nature in any meaningful way. Maybe in an abstract, theoretical sense, at best.

[@gregwarner3753]

I never saw a bullet even though I saw a lot of dead and wounded after a gunfight. Therefore bullets do not exist and all these wounds were created by ?. Huh?

[@PinkkElephantt]

You and Tommy Wiseau did a great job with this. Super informative.

[@jimdigriz2923]

It made me chuckle when that AiG bloke mentions the white cliffs of Dover said the height is over 1000 ft, I've lived in Dover all my life and those cliifs are nowhere near that size, Purple Dan got it right, they are indeed around 350 ft.

[@pilgrimpater]

Jim Digriz To be fair how far do they extend below sea level. Is that where he gets his 1000 from?. Not sure why he would use 1000 instead of 350 as it makes his case harder to make. Just to get the record straight I am not a Creotard. I have an IQ greater than 10.

[@jimdigriz2923]

Well the sea bed (with the deepest point being 223 ft) is solid chalk (as they found out when they built the channel tunnel), so even if he adds those together it gives us 573 ft which is still nowhere near 1000, but it is AiG after all, they'd struggle to get the maths right even with a calculator and diagrams to help.

[@pilgrimpater]

Jim Digriz So AIG are out by a factor of circa 2. That's pretty impressive for them.

[@nathanglazier7460]

I'm sorry... I read you say you've lived there all your life and my first response is "Why?" why would you do that to yourself! Even folkestone is better!

[@jimdigriz2923]

Although that made chuckle, I have to disagree with you on that, we have the stunning Castle that overlooks the town on one side and the large complex of Napoleonic fortifications and tunnels on the other side (which make for great dog walks :)) I'll take that over a nice town center any day.

[@ericvulgate]

they're arguing themselves right out of business. the more ham speaks the less credible he gets.

[@KingQwertzlbrmpf]

The less credible he gets to an educated audiance. But his target audiance is conditionied to accept anything said by an authority figure no matter wether it makes even the slightest whiff of sense or not. That's what religion is based upon. Authority. Authority in the religious mindset is based on power and Power is equated with truth. God is the most powerful thus he has the most authority and thus whatever he says is true. The priest is viewed as the representative of god on earth and speaks for god. By borrowing the authority of god he gains a small portion of god's power and thus his words become true as well.

[@Pit.Gutzmann]

Ken Ham: _"There's a lot of young people who necessarily mature and are always thinking..."_ Just PRECIOUS!!!

[@timeshark8727]

He keeps claiming that science is wrong, but never gives any reasons why or how it is wrong beyond claiming that the bible is right and so science must be wrong... These people in Answers in Genesis don't know science, evidence or truth.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

And his books usually contain lots of stuff of which you'll not find any trace "in" Genesis... Remember how his Ark shows like wax animatronic puppets of the Noah-family and their wives... INCLUDING naming the females.. which does not happen in Genesis, but is from the jewish version of what the Muslims call Hadith, the "talmud" which collects books not really part of the bible but giving additional rules and interpretations of the Tanach proper (that's the jewish name for the "Old Testament" of the christian bible). For an organisation that claims EVERYTHING can and has been answered "in genesis", that is basically a declaration of bankruptcy, isn't it?

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Because... God! Jeez man...

[@MrNateSPF]

Giving reasons is part of science, he says science is wrong LMFAO ;-)

[@fred_derf]

+Timeshark, writes _"He keeps claiming that science is wrong, but never gives any reasons why or how it is wrong beyond claiming that the bible is right and so science must be wrong..."_ That's stated as part of AiG's mission statement. See: answersingenesis.org/about/faith/

[@timeshark8727]

Holy Crap! It is! except you linked their Statement of Faith, not their mission statement... Their actual mission statement is hilarious due to its irony. answersingenesis.org/about/mission/ *Core Values* We _resourcefully equip_ believers to defend their faith with excellence. *(with lies and misrepresentations of science, logic, and reason which do not hold up to elementary levels of knowledge)* We _willingly engage_ society's challenges with _uncompromising integrity._ *(while blocking criticisms, twisting evidence, and lying constantly)* We _sacrificially serve_ the AiG family and others. *(by taking their money and complaining when they get caught breaking the law and cheating the system)* We _generously give_ Christian love. *(lol... just lol)*

[@redearth8256]

Ken is a real fast talker like a conman. I'm convinced at this point that they know they are lying

[@bdf2718]

Georgia lies every time she talks about genetics. She has a PhD in molecular genetics from Ohio State U. She lies and she knows she's lying and one part of her brain is rebelling against the lies. You can tell this, because whenever she spouts bullshit about genetics or molecular biology her eyes dart left-right-left-right... She doesn't do that if she's saying something she believes to be true, but the moment she twists genetics to match AiG's stupidity the eyes start flicking. As for whether Ken is lying. My guess is that if somebody isn't making money out of it they probably believe the bullshit they're spouting but if they're making loads of money out of it then they don't care whether it's true or false as long as it convinces the gullible to give them money. Ken makes a load of money from it (or at least tries to, although the Ark has put a dent in that) so he's almost certainly lying.

[@crabwatarigani1049]

i think deep down they know its bullshit, but they managed to brainwash themselves.

[@0x777]

Why the qualifier "like", Red?

[@ctwentysevenj6531]

I wouldn't be surprise Ken doesn't believe what he says. This Answer in Genesis is a money making business living off the gullibility of undereducated Mid Western Americans from the bible belt.

[@jefforta4989]

@@bdf2718 I think it's time Ohio State University look into revoking her degree, of course I guess it would just fuel their persecution complex.

[@billschild3371]

That flood in Toowoomba he is talking occurred in 2011 at a nearby township called Grantham built on the edge of a shallow creek bed, which suffered a 1 in 100 year flood event. Many people died that day in Grantham and it still stings For him to not even acknowledge this makes me sick.

[@Wertbag99]

I love the avoidance of the question "where did the olive branch come from?" They just say "have you proven it wouldn't work?" Ignoring the glaring hole. I thought they'd just go with "magic" as that seems to be the answer to every objection raised.

[@seraphina985]

One other point about the dunes is that sand produced by wind erosion like that found in deserts has a very different consistency to sand formed from ocean erosion. Mostly this is because the former is predominantly generated by the wind blowing fine sand over rocks and grinding very fine particles off them creating sand which is fine, relatively uniform and rounded. Ocean waves, on the other hand, are powerful enough to reduce rocks to sand through fragmentation by literally smashing small rocks into rock faces or each other this produces a lot of far sharper and non-uniform grains. This is why you have countries like UAE having to import their construction sand since desert sand is unsuitable for concrete. The rounder, finer, more uniform grains bind poorly with the cement and can more easily slide past each other thus producing very weak concrete.

[@malvanlondon8683]

Ken, you say Jesus rose from the dead. How do you know? Were you there???

[@MegaChickenfish]

Yes. How do you know I _wasn't_ there? Were YOU there?!?! o_O

[@MuttFitness]

You guys aren't even real. I've never seen you

[@GuitarDog_atx]

"Is it more probable that nature should go out of her course, or that a man should tell a lie? We have never seen, in our time, nature go out of her course. But we have good reason to believe that millions of lies have been told in the same time. It is therefore at least millions to one that the reporter of a miracle tells a lie." - thomas paine

[@20july1944]

Dog: Do you claim to know that God does not exist?

[@TomAnderson_81]

20july1944 I don’t know if he exists but I ask those who claim that he does to meet the burden of proof?

[@20july1944]

Andy: That's somewhat my point: I'm here making the argument that God almost certainly exists from strong inferential evidence. What is *your* truth claim regarding God's existence?

[@GuitarDog_atx]

20July, I don't make any such claim. I do make the claim that the xtian/muslim/jewish god does not exist. It's possible that something like the force exists, but seriously doubt there's a conscience, anthropomorphic and invisible creature that floats around on a cloud and tinkers with our world & cares about people's sex life and foreskins.

[@TomAnderson_81]

20july1944 When you say god do you mean the Bible god?

[@stevenfeduk8627]

Every time I watch one of your videos now, I'm reminded of how lazy I'm being about taking care of business here at home. Thank you for all your effort Paul! And Dan!

[@bradleslie2619]

On behalf of Kentucky, I'd like to apologize for Hamm's drivel.

[@otrame]

Not your fault. Or maybe it is, since you guys have such an open immigration policy for white people. /s

[@mikefoster8977]

And we are truly sorry that he left our shores for yours. No wait...

[@bradleslie2619]

Mike Foster Do you want him back? Australia needs an ark...

[@mikefoster8977]

Brad Leslie Thats not funny!

[@0x777]

Not your fault, and I'm pretty sure the town that fell for this con artist by now regrets that it allowed him to build that thing.

[@Rayrard]

It's always funny when Ken Ham prattles about "observational science", yet they don't go by observational science when it comes to diatom accumulation, lithification, plate tectonics, radiometric dating, varve formation, dendrochronology, etc. I don't think anything in the flood model goes by actual observational science.

[@CraftyVegan]

His problem is that he’s mixing up “observational science” with “preschool science”, ie science that happens fairly instantly and doesn’t require any real reading comprehension.

[@elvisischrist]

You can repeat rock hard until your wife gets jealous. That was absolutely outstanding! You guys have so much patience to deal with these nut jobs. If their job actually depended on providing evidence for their claims, they’d be eating locusts in the wilderness… (sorry couldn’t help that…) Keep up the outstanding work!!

[@kennylex]

The only question you need to ask when It comes to the flood story is 'did God's plan work, is the earth free from sin now'?

[@Paulogia]

probably for a few weeks. we can't have nice things.

[@kennylex]

I can not spell and my grammar is bad, but I think it went down something like this. God -Here Noah, here is your new sin free earth I give to you" Noah -But it mud everywhere! God -Now go and grow crops on your new sin free world" Noah -But for God sake, it is covered in saltwater" God - Now go and repopulate the sin free world. Noah -Are you kidding me, we are FU¤%&G related you A$$ H$!!€! God -Oh no, now you did sin and I have to make the earth shitty again. Noah *Facepalm*

[@bdf2718]

Nope, he fucked up that time. Thinking about it, he fucked up every time.

[@iljuro]

I'd say it worked about as good as his first plan. You know, when he created the perfect world and the perfect beings and it ate itself within the first generation. While he was still around tweaking it.

[@0x777]

That was still beta and development, now we're in the maintenance phase.

[@chrispitchforth621]

"this guy's on fire" well his pants are anyway.

[@timeshark8727]

The ark wouldn't be hydro-dynamically perfect for handling the flood. Its too round, doesn't have a deep enough draft or isn't wide enough to be stable without a deeper draft (it is in a middle zone that leads to it being problematic), and doesn't have the proper keel to keep it from rolling. The second a large wave came from the side that ark would roll like a log... hey, maybe that's how they cleaned all the poop out of that 1 window, flipped it over with every wave and washed it out. The ark is somewhere between a proper large boat shape, like the "V" shape of aircraft carriers or cargo ships, and a giant flat barge... its bad to be in the middle ground of those designs. Either of the extremes would have worked, but the middle ground... nope. A big "U" shape would roll without a large keel... which the ark doesn't have, and a deep "V" would have never be able to be built to that scale with the materials they had without crushing itself under its own weight before the water even reached it... the same thing would have happened to a big keel too, now that I think about it. Noah would have been better off building a giant, flat, barge than the shape that AiG says is "perfect"... that is, if he wanted to actually survive the flood.

[@josiahhanson1920]

Timeshark Yeah, but remember, it's a magic boat.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Well that is cause AiG has done a lot of work to kind of imitate modern boats as bit by bit all ancient designs got proven to not work out either in this size or in heavy seas and bad weather (that's also the reason for the weird galley like "crest" and chinpiece, only they are supposed to be backwards from a greek trireme as they are not ramming prow and weathering backfin but meant to "turn it into the sea like a weathervane" and to stabilise against the torrents of the tumultous sea... ), all halfways realistic reconstructions based around gilgamesh and other earlier incarnations of the Noachian myth end up more like a caroussel, doughnut or simply BOX (which is ironically what "ark" means... a container, vessel, casket) shapes and are much smaller in size, so they CAN be built with contemporary techniques and materials! But no, Ken Ham had to build a wooden Exxon Valdez in the dimensions they found in Genesis... which is pretty much a vainglorious enterprise, doomed to fail before the yeven begun. And to add injury to insult they also built it like a fucking HOUSE with only superficial similarity to how a boat would be built but the structure of a fucking barn with "space age" foil meant to protect against humidity getting caught inside but securing the thing against rain coming in too... and he did not even process the wood they nailed as decorative outer shell, which is why after only a handful of weeks the first moldy spots were blatantly obvious to any onlooker... in 3 or 4 years he'll have to replace all the wooden coverings or declare the ark unsalvageable.

[@timeshark8727]

I know they are just pretending to science... but they could at least pretend better than I knew at 10 or 11 yrs old. Maybe its because of my background in marine sciences, but it is sad that they get stuff this simple so very, very wrong so very, very often.

[@bdf2718]

Interestingly, the legend that Noah's flood was plagiarised from had a barge, not an ark.

[@Coramelimane]

Bill Nye, while not being a scientist, is apparently at least a descendant of shipwrights, and pointed out that the "accepted" dimensions of the Ark, is still completely unsailable regardless of it's draft, because it's too long, it'd twist in half before it;d roll over on its first wave.

[@TheCheapPhilosophy]

I like when they assert "we can only know the present"" and then go on explaining how the flood carved the Grand Canyon, and how the waters were saturated with slime, and deposited layers between tides... Were you there, Mr.Andrew?? Or did you find the diary of Noah?

[@wolfsigma]

You know... the best thing about a geologist is they can dig through a HUGE pile of schist but still find something gneiss.

[@grahamariss2111]

Ken Ham and honesty are strangers.

[@pennymitchell8523]

As an Australian....i am embarrassed. Amazing how creationists only concentrate on the geology of the flood....never the morality

[@timberry4709]

Sorry, Paul, but I couldn't finish this one. Just listening to those three started causing my IQ to drop.

[@anikmonette2140]

@Marilyn Newman I'm staring at my glass table while listening to the unholy trio and I'm starting to think that my forehead would perfectly fit there...

[@TenFalconsMusic]

It's like watching 3 toddlers explain away why the cookie jar is empty... and they're covered in crumbs.

[@MegaChickenfish]

1:42 "There's a lot of young people, who still aren't necessarily as stupid as us, but as long as they're still at least a little gullible we'll let them on. It's become increasingly hard to find anyone who meets our requirements who's above the age of 4 so we've had to make some compromises."

[@rebeccazegstroo6786]

Ask Ken Ham how do we know that stories of Hercules are false.

[@elcarpe9186]

I wonder what mental gymnastics an apologist needs to perform to explain the unbroken history of the populations in China... how come they never mentioned the Biblical Worldwide Flood? I would like to hear that discussion - for comical purposes of course... if the earth is only 6000 yrs old, and the flood happened about 2400 yrs after creation... then how come we know of a consistent, uninterrupted population in China for over 5000yrs?

[@germanvisitor2]

Maybe the Chinese had a wall of iron chariots at the border.

[@wadespencer3623]

The explanation I've seen is just that our dating methods are bad so they actually only came in after the flood. So they compress all of the thousands of years of human habitation into about 4,000, and from a population of a couple people at best.

[@elcarpe9186]

wade... so basically they pull bullshit outta their ass and ignore facts (as usual) ... still wanna hear a reasonable explanation for kangaroos ... penquins... and... oh hell - i simply don't care - these morons can make up whatever shit they want - i'm teaching my kids to think for themselves and not fall for the religion salesmen.

[@wadespencer3623]

+El Carpe Yeah, pretty much. The kangaroos and penguins are a DOOZY though. Ken ham straight up said that volcanoes could have launched animals great distances. It's in a Paulogia video, but I can't remember which.

[@wadespencer3623]

Kangaroos are immune to fall damage, don't ya know?

[@ladyaj7784]

The "rock hard" joke made me laugh out loud.

[@trudewhite876]

Notice that Snelling said the Colorado River today is not capable of washing away all the debris. He neglected to mention that the Colorado River today is much different than it was in the past. The flows in the river have been greatly diminished since the construction of the Glen Canyon Dam in the early 1960s. Average flows in the Colorado River today are around 10,000 cubic feet per second. Before the dam was built the flows in the river would swell to 80,000 to 100,000 cfs every spring, and sometimes much more than that. In the 1880s there was a year when the flows were as high as 380,000 cfs. When the glaciers melted at the end of the last ice age some estimates are in the neighborhood of nearly one million cubic feet per second.

[@scottmurphy7372]

I’m starting to think that Ken Ham watched Waterworld and said that is Biblical!

[@LisaForTruth]

"They've already got a bias." LMAO! That's rich, coming from AiG!

[@Toshibaclovis]

Just found this channel thanks to AronRa. Keep up the good fight for atheism! North east Ohio supports you!

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

Awesome as always Purple Dan.

[@PurpleDan]

Thank you!

[@ukaszGelChulo]

A question -- why there is a fossilized fish with undigested fish in its stomach ?? We were told that before the flood animals were herbivores? hmmmmmm?!?!?

[@Paulogia]

holy shit! you're right

[@ukaszGelChulo]

I'll quote George Takei and say "Oh my" ... Ta @PurpleRhymesWithOrange ! Now the picture of Pearlfish hiding in the sea cucumber's "party hole" will haunt me :P

[@ukaszGelChulo]

haha indeed ... that said, these fish reminded me of the "space penises" from R Scott's Prometheus

[@hundejahre]

He wasn't eating it, it was a twisted sinful sexual fish act. Those fish needed to die so future generations of fish could live in a world without fish sin.

[@ukaszGelChulo]

So the flood was their fault!! Clearly neither pearlfish nor sea cucumber learnt from it .. as they clearly partake in this sinful act AGAIN!

[@miku4977]

"Young people who aren't nessicarily mature in their thinking" Shut up Ken. I'm 16 and I'm way more intellectually honestly than I've ever seen you be. (Although I am far from perfect, biases and fallacies still catch me often)

[@poppasmurf4115]

hi! i was binge watching aronra (who i met through YOU) when your new vid showed up. you are responsible for me meeting so many guys with great content, no way i can thank you enough.

[@Paulogia]

letting others share their knowledge and voice is my great pleasure

[@jdetres01]

Loved the breakdowns keep it up!

[@SciFiFan2012]

Ken Ham's BS "were you there" nonsense, why doesn't he understand that it applies to his religion? Was he there to see the ark being built, loaded, and on the waters? No. So he is taking his "holy" book as truth, as he says atheists do with science. Was he at any of the events the book talks about? No, so he has faith those events happened while scientific research shows that they didn't.

[@0x777]

"Were you there" is a bullshit argument anyway. By his logic, our prisons should be virtually empty because few people are usually present for a murder and survive it to report about it, yet we do find people guilty based on the evidence they leave behind at the crime scene.

[@gentboy515]

But he has the "perfect word of God" so u know he's right ... 😂

[@tommy605]

The Man From Krypton ""were you there" nonsense, why doesn't he understand that it applies to his religion?" Technically, yes, but to him, he wasn't there but god was and therefore the bible is first hand evidence/witness to everything. It is, of course pure bullshit, but that's his answer to that. The "were you there" argument assumes someone must be there to witness something happen rather than observe the effects of something that has happened. Everything leaves a trail of evidence. It might be minute but it's there.

[@SciFiFan2012]

tommy605 "everything leaves a trace of evidence" Sure, but what's the evidence for anything in the Bible to have happened besides the Bible? We know the Creation story is BS, the flood was BS, Exodus didn't happen, the 10 plagues were a story, nothing more and I could go on. Hell, Criss Angel "walked" on water, doesn't mean he's divine, just that it was a decent illusion.

[@tommy605]

The Man From Krypton Correct, no real evidence, but Ham will say that the evidence is God witnessing it and his telling us. That in and of itself would be considered evidence, but weak evidence because it can't be demonstrated to be accurate or true. The fact is, all observable, testable and demonstrable evidence shows that most events in the bible didn't happen or couldn't happen. But that's not how Ham and others who live off the simpletons that follow them they determine what is true.

[@TheLavenderLady]

"Deep down, you [Snelling] know what you say is nonsense." He knows, Dan. Consider the papers Snelling has authored outside the AiG venue. He actually employed valid methodology in those. Did he do that just to gain credibility? Perhaps. But the fact is that he *knows how it is done* and has used it to draw *valid conclusions*.

[@20july1944]

Lav: I think you're right about that. I think he feels obligated as a Christian to take Genesis 1-11 literally (that's the only motive I can imagine.) What aspect of science are you best-versed in?

[@TheLavenderLady]

I took a degree in neuroscience 25 years ago. I had wanted my own research lab, but it didn't work out.

[@20july1944]

Lav: Sorry to hear it didn't work out -- I feel your pain, but I'm glad to hear you're a hard scientist. I'd like to discuss either of two questions if you'd care to: 1. The origin of the causal chain that led to you. 2. The origin of life. Would you care to discuss either of those?

[@robertrichardson2120]

Um, discount Colonel von Stauffenberg, I'm curious. Why are you focused on Origin of Life chemistry? What does this have to do with the idea that a global flood did or didn't happen?

[@20july1944]

Bob: Why am I focused on Origin of Life chemistry? *Because Lavender is a neuroscientist, so she knows something about it.* What does this have to do with the idea that a global flood did or didn't happen? *It doesn't, I'm here to defend theism against atheism. I don't think there was a global human-extermination flood, and IF there was, it wasn't 2350 BC.*

[@MsJazbren]

+100 internets for the Shawshank clip. Perfection. 'Geology is the study of pressure and time. That's all it takes, really. Pressure. And time.' - Red

[@fnwolf]

Great post as always Paul Thank you!!!

[@myster.ejones1306]

Hi Paul, hi Dan,☺ The ark is a rubbish design! (well it was one of god's designs, so what else could one really expect) Without any power source at all, this Ark design just gets turned side on to the waves then gets capsized, big or small any non round unpowered boat will be sunk by waves. Hence most life rafts are round, and lifeboats have oars. ☺

[@tonedumbharry]

Erm, kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZDJnKOQiNOtaKs

[@Darth12000]

We were discussing the Dunning-Kruger effect on a comment thread of another (unrelated) video, i think it applies here too. Ken Ham and his employees seem to have unmatched confidence, and according to the Dunning-Kruger effect if you have unmatched confidence, how much expertise does it give you ? Almost none.

[@20july1944]

Darth: Where did the universe come from? Is there any aspect of science you feel particularly familiar with?

[@Darth12000]

No every fields of knowledge are subjects to the Dunning-Kruger effect, but here we simply have a funny example of it and its high confidence / low expertise side. ;-)

[@20july1944]

Darth: Do you have any relevant expertise? Where did the universe come from? Is there any aspect of science you feel particularly familiar with?

[@darken3150]

Holding a tentative view as a model of how it could come to be can't be compared to confidence that believers have that "god did it."

[@20july1944]

Dark: Perhaps not, but I'm curious how far back in your causal chain you're willing to go? Big Bang?

[@johnhill6673]

Telling people something that you know is nonsense is call a LIE.

[@owenoulton9312]

"Cemented rock hard?" What was the rating on the Mohs' scale? We want documented tests!

[@curtisbennett8230]

Where are all of he 3+million people that would have been washed into a tangled mass, much the same as they say animals were?

[@stuboyd1194]

The best thing Australia ever did was have Ham go to the USA. Sorry USA.

[@julesmasseffectmusic]

I thought.he was faking the accent. Now I am sad.

[@richtraube2241]

Gee, thanks .

[@dentonstalesofthevikingage8945]

Wonderful to see 'experts' making complete fools of themselves!

[@travis6977]

Great video as always. Purple Dan is great too! Keep the great content coming, it's what gained you the ability to scare Ken back into his joey pouch!

[@DPK365]

I would rather pray to Carl Sagan than Jesus anyway....I mean he's much more charming and we can actually verify he existed.

[@20july1944]

Dave and Purple: Do you claim to know that God doesn't exist?

[@DPK365]

I don't believe in God, but that's not what I'm claiming in the comment. I'm strongly hinting that Jesus didn't exist, or at least not in the form discussed in the Bible.

[@crabwatarigani1049]

shots fired

[@jmicone6895]

Hmpf. Answers Ingenuous.

[@Paulogia]

I might steal that

[@jmicone6895]

Please, help yourself.

[@bdf2718]

Answers in Genitals. It's a load of bollocks.

[@stephaniecuellar3192]

Answers disenGenuinesis.

[@bdf2718]

+Stephanie Cuellar That's hard to read. But it made me think of an alternative. Answers in Guinness. If you get blind drunk some of Ken's stuff almost seems to make sense. Almost, but not quite.

[@putzthewondersloth]

I love it when Creationists mention the waters of the deep. Walt Brown described them as being ten miles below the surface of the Earth. We've drilled 7.5 miles down and it was so hot that the rocks were starting to melt. That was 356 degrees F; not even water bears can live through that. Even if the ark had somehow managed to survive that, the air would have steamed everything inside. Nothing would have survived.

[@petesampson4273]

Not to mention that the kinetic energy of enough water, from somewhere, to cover the entire planet falling from the skies would melt the effing planet.

[@TheGrassdawg]

Hey! Good to see Purple Dan again! As for the nudniks, they are infuriating! Ironic is to nice of a word for their disingenuous bull puckey! Thanks again to the both of you for your hard work and diligence!

[@yoredeerleader]

When the ark business inevitably sinks into the financial abyss I’d like to see the gays buy it for pennies on the dollar and turn the whole thing into a holy land themed bathhouse called Dark Encounter.

[@chintex_]

who gave that dislike

[@20july1944]

Chin: I did! Paul is kicking around intellectual pygmies rather than the real intellects within Christianity.

[@darken3150]

And who would that be?

[@EdwardHowton]

+20july1944 Oh this should be good. Who are "the real intellects within christianity" exactly? And, more importantly, how are their arguments functionally different from Ham's.

[@Payne2view]

He is addressing the arguments of these people because these are the ones with the publicity and these are the ones trying to get their anti-scientific ideas into the North American schools.

[@20july1944]

Ed: The Discovery Institute, Reasons to Believe, Reasonable Faith, Gary Habermas, and Mike Licona would be my initial list of serious Christian intellects that you should interact with.

[@Crape711]

Fuck yes! Purple Dan is back. Last time he was on here was the first time I heard of him. I binged his channel and I love his content. Thanks for bringing him back on Paul!

[@Paulogia]

if he's not going to make content for his channel, he might as well do it for mine

[@PurpleDan]

Hahaha, I like having the pressure to do something.

[@Crape711]

Purple Dan It's ok. I still love you anyway. You guys and others are inspiring me to maybe start debunking pseudoscience on my channel one day. I'm terribly busy right now, but I'm hoping I'll be able to get out a video like one of yours or Paul's in the not-to-distant future.

[@silsital9539]

"A blind man looking for a shadow of doubt" your choice! God bless.

[@freelanceopportunist559]

Ken seemed visibly shaken when he was talking about atheists It's not surprising really, he's been thoroughly scrutinized by videos like this.... LOL then there's Twitter. Every day I used to wake up and think: wonder what Kens up to? Then I'd log on and every atheist and his dog would be there hammering away at his idiot beliefs .....trying to earn that coveted hashtag (poor ken🤣) Ahhh those were the days....

[@Paulogia]

onward and upward!

[@elcarpe9186]

Doctor Giggles speaking has become the proverbial nails on a chalkboard to me... it might be different if reasonable concepts fell out of her eating hole... but it seems her grey matter can't conceive of "reasonable".

[@blackice9088]

Dr. Giggles lost all scientific credibility when she became a member of AiG...They should revoke her PHD.

[@jarrod752]

Ken's hiring? You should apply. Don't forget to put Ham and Aig news on your resume!

[@NotCapitalist]

Nuclear engineer here. Even if you accept that rates have changed, that has *consequences*. A shorter half-life means more radioactivity. That's what it means. If you want to reduce the half-lives to the point where you can get the decay necessary to explain what we see within 10,000 years that would lead to ludicrously high levels of radiation in the early Earth. The Garden of Eden would be a radioactive WASTELAND.

[@deangood12]

AIG are these guys on drugs they talk to damn fast

[@donbacker9883]

Don't do Jesus. Not even once.

[@Shake69ification]

As I'm sure some of your viewers are aware, Aron Ra has a whole series of videos on how different branches of science each can be used to disprove the flood.

[@blackice9088]

I've seen it, and that series blows Noah's Ark out of the water! 😂

[@hippo1701]

I love the purple octopus.

[@johnnyrepine937]

Hail Sagan!

[@Uzicide]

YAY! PURPLE DAN!

[@NOMAD-qp3dd]

Good stuff! Purple Dan-Sub'd!

[@ExhaustedScarf]

“You can repeat the sentence ‘rock-hard’ until your wife get jealous, it doesn’t make the samples you’re talking about rocks.” See this? This is why I love Dan. Fucking brilliant lmao

[@RandomPerson-fd9wu]

Once again, Great show, thank you Paulogia (and Purple Dan)! I have been watching you and your guests, for a while now, destroy everything that comes from AIG. I am finding it harder to except that the hosts of AIG really believe, themselves, the crap they spew. I am beginning to think they are just doing all this for the money. I mean, really, look at the fiasco Ken has had with the finances at Ark Park. The cost to take a 4 member family to the park is crazy (10 bucks just to park your car!! The museums, zoos, theaters, and parks I go to charge under $5, or most are FREE, for parking. Guess they would lose me are the parking gate. XD). Thinking it all boils down to money. Bringing someone into a venture under false pretext is often referred to as a "scam." Makes me wonder....a.k.a....."Scam-Man-Ham"? Just a Random thought.........

[@mythosboy]

Subscribed now (to Purple Dan). Excellent video, and thanks.

[@VestigialHead]

Interesting that no one has ever seen a flood leave behind solid cemented material. EVER.

[@reeceguisse17]

When I watched this episode back when it came out, I was struck by something that was said on your channel that goes something like, "Any competent authority sounds reasonable to a layman." The refutations *sounded* reasonable, sort of, but I'm not a geologist. Thanks go to Purple Dan (and his squid friend) for putting it all in context. The other thing that struck me, and I commented on it at the time, was how often the AiG team refutes science by saying that you can't say what happened in the past because what we observe in the present is no match for God's ability to change physics on a whim. (This is where the "Mbube" joke goes).

[@Linguae_Music]

I haven't watched the video yet.... But with a cameo appearance from one named "Purple Dan" this will surely be a hoot. :D

[@artifax1407]

Watching adults solemnly trying to explain how a childish fantasy is real is disturbing. I'm embarrassed for them.

[@blackfeathercrafts]

I tagged you in my g+ feed I took photos of my sculpting of dragon claws--and this video was on the laptop screen in the photo. FYI!!! :)

[@NickKzig]

Omfg i just got the intro... major facepalm here. I never got the eggs part until i actually WATCHED the intro lmao Normally i just listen haha

[@edgarmatzinger9742]

AIG's media director: "We have Andrew Snelling on the show. Quick, quick, close the comment section!"

[@xarzu]

Great work. I wonder what software you use to make these videos. I assume you do not synchronize the animated mouth movement with the audio by hand frame-by-frame.

[@dolmandabean]

its truely bizarre that this sort of religious discrimination is legal

[@sasha1suz]

The rapid-fire chatter reminds me of several people I've met over the years. A couple were bi-polar and more than a few were on speed.

[@condorboss3339]

Memo to self: *NEVER* board a boat designed by a young earth creationist.