22 Time Signature Changes with Notation!

[@johnruddleston805]

What!!!! The hell!! Too much man!👌 You’ve already lost most of us before you start🫨🤯

[@grantcollins]

Ha 😀. I know, it’s such a great piece of music (as crazy as it is). When we play it live, we often say it the most rehearsed 60 seconds of music that we’ve played. Thanks for checking it out!

[@Snycobat]

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[@grantcollins]

🔥 right back!

[@grantcollins]

Fire it is!

[@Snycobat]

@@grantcollins for sure

[@johnknight9150]

That's the first time I've really heard double bass drumming in jazz, beyond a Bellson solo or an unconvincing drum clinic tune that doesn't really sound like jazz. It's actually a pretty natural fit. Then again, double bass was born in jazz. If only more jazz heads would be open to learning it.

[@grantcollins]

Hi John, I totally agree. Double bass is typically associated with rock/metal etc, but so is the snare drum. the snare is a big part of jazz so that shows us that it is the way we play it and how we can suit it to the music we’re playing. I also use a lot of ghost note rolls with accents on my feet in jazz which other musician I play with really like. I’m not belting them out as super loud 32nd notes and the other musicians can feel how it contributes to the music. Great observations and opens up for a whole new discussion!

[@johnknight9150]

@@grantcollinsInteresting, I've never heard someone talk about using double-bass in a low dynamics setting before. I've always felt like having only one kick pedal is like being only allowed to use one hand on the snare drum, and a lower dynamics application would be much more snare-like. I can't believe how many session drummers can't play double-bass, but not just that, are proud they only play one pedal and don't see the point. Double-bass is creeping into all kinds of genres and has been in the EDM scene since forever, and has even started creeping into pop. It is by no means niche anymore.

[@grantcollins]

@@johnknight9150 I’ve worked up my foot technique so that I can play rudimental snare drum pieces so learning and using the dynamics was necessary in that process. There’s a few old videos of me floating around on YoutTube that show me playing ‘the three camps’ & ‘wilcoxons 144th’ on a solo bass drum. I think its more of a mindset approach as to how you apply it musically within songs. there’s not a lot of this approach out there so drummers don’t have a reference point on what they can do with it so don’t really think of using it. There’s definitely a place for it in all styles of music, we just have to work out the how. And yes, you definitely can’t do with one foot what you can do with two :) .

[@johnknight9150]

@@grantcollinsAh, foot technique + rudiments + respected clinician. I've been waiting twenty years for this opportunity, so you'll forgive me if I ask something with the persistence of Jacob wrestling the angel! ;-) Firstly, can you play press rolls with your feet? I think I might be able to, not sure if it's a press roll. Thomas Lang said he can play all the rudiments except press rolls. I've been using heel-toe plus one extra technique, such as a hip-flexor squeezed note, for instance. There's a much bigger thing I want to ask though. There are plenty of video series covering all the rudiments one-by-one, usually with a bloke who has a snare drum and a practice pad. But to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever done a tutorial video series doing the same thing for the feet. Is this something you would be interested in doing as a professional resource we could all refer to? (I know it's a DVD I'd buy!) I think the ideal format would be the same as the all-the-rudiments one-by-one videos we have now, but played first on the hands, then played on the feet, and possibly demonstrated between hands and feet as well. Everyone seems to think foot rudiments is crazy stuff for elite players, when I believe it shouldn't be any more difficult than on the hands and just needs to be properly documented and demystified. (I know when I learned heel-toe, I could play most of them straight away.)

[@grantcollins]

@@johnknight9150 No, I don't do press rolls with my feet. The nature of a bass drum head doesn't really afford it. I think anyone looking to play the rudiments with their feet will be quite comfortable playing them with their hands so I wouldn't see the full potential of emulating individual rudiment lessons with the feet. As you mentioned, once you can get singles and doubles happening with your feet, the rudiments will come pretty easily if you're familiar with them. One thing I will be looking at in the future is selecting a few of the different rudiments that I enjoy playing within different grooves, solos and as ostinati. I would see this as a more practical approach to not just the how to play rudiments with your feet, but also the why, by putting them into a musical situation.