22LR VS .177, .22, .25, and .30 CAL AIRGUNS | 22LR Vs Air Rifle POWER TEST

[@MrAzahills]

Such good useful entertaining content. Thanks fellas. It’s like ya knew what I was wondering!!

[@kevinbietry7527]

.25 cal air gun seems to be the best air gun caliber of the group and the only one that rivaled the .22lr.

[@khaiko9895]

Please do add the FX Wildcat MK3 and the FX Impact MK3 in the next comparison video. Both in .177, .22, .25, . 30 and .35 cal. These two airguns are my favourite.

[@surreallife777]

Is it true you can shoot 34 grain slugs with the 600 mm 22 caliber panthera? Some people say the maximum you can shoot is a 30 grain. FX does mention 34 Grain on their website.

[@kevinhood9781]

87 vegetarians disapprove of this video

[@josephsaucedo8691]

This should of been the one Ben did on his channel the first time still cool but it's what a lot of people want to see so they no what they want to buy Cal wise. Powder or air?

[@darbo6955]

You said you thought it would be a lot louder.. well was it?

[@amitlondhe9894]

Nice informative 👍 video please tell me which mek. 22 lr you used I liked it very much keep it up bro

[@tmoffcial3832]

texan .30 cal and .22lr ?

[@fredoaks6375]

What distance shooting?

[@GarrettRay20]

What cal was the aea 80 foot pounds And I love your vids keep on making great vids LOVE YOU man

[@Not_Evil_]

Everytime I see videos like this with Americans, on their Ranges and all those great guns. Makes me want to relocate, but then I remember everything about the Healtcare haha

[@TheDollarSportsman]

The healthcare system is messed up for sure, but the freedom is worth it 👨🏻‍🎤😎

[@beatlessteve1010]

I kept thinking of the Kennedy assasination film review when viewing this for some reason.. especially on the . 25

[@airguns_rc]

Nice video guys. Always fun to see you guys get together. What about the Predator Polymag in .30 Caliber? Keep up the great videos.

[@northballistics]

Do the .30 cal polymags exist yet?

[@airguns_rc]

Replica Tactical Canada yes they do. I have a few tins of them

[@northballistics]

Backyard Plinking & Trick-Shots awesome!

[@airguns_rc]

Replica Tactical Canada I have some on video on my channel.

[@jdmbraceyourself695]

Great video guys 👍👍

[@KOUKAROS-GR]

What is the distance you shooting ?

[@Matzah1982]

With my Diana model 34 classic .22 air rifle I’m getting a velocity of about 650 to 700 feet per second and about 15 to 20 foot pounds of energy shooting the 16 grain H&N hornet pellets I shoot and they penetrate through a 1x4 pine wood board like a warm knife through butter and lodge 60 pages deep in a hardcover book behind the board so it’s comparable ballistically to a .22 cb short cartridge or a Mexican .22 short Aguila cartridge

[@Matzah1982]

I don’t have that rifle anymore. Now I have the Hatsan 135 QE vortex .25 caliber break barrel air rifle and I shoot H&N 22 grain hornet pellets from it with about 29 or 30 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle. It’s twice as powerful as the Diana 34 which was putting out about 15 foot pounds of energy on average. The difference is the Diana 34 from 20 meters distance away would almost shoot the hornets through 2 back to back thin plastic gallon water jugs but my new Hatsan will shoot the hornets clean through 3 of them jugs. It is like the difference between the Aguila .22 short super colibri round compared to the CCI .22 cb short and cb long rounds

[@MrAvidOutdoorsman]

That's definitely comparing apples to apples!🤔😳😁

[@miami999q6]

Nice job, yeah I recently bought the .22 gamo

[@crawford323]

We’re the break crank springers too fast? Did they pencil the apples and just not transfer power?

[@TheDollarSportsman]

They were flying at a pretty good pace, though from experience I know a .22 in these does plenty of damage to rabbits

[@fatcapital88]

"I brought some targets. Do you have any guns?"... Ha

[@jonathanfegelein9361]

Works the way it is supposed to. Just Good

[@Leadheadsam]

Great video 👍

[@teslacybertruck750]

I'm glad I came across your channel, I am proud to be a new sub I love your videos brother.

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Thanks for being here!!

[@johnhawk9321]

Good footage

[@stevekundzala676]

GOOD info! Thanks!

[@meaghancote-mcauley79]

What's the best air rifle on the market that's 70 to 110 FPE an can get the most shots out of 1 full tank and has good accuracy

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Now that’s a good question! I can’t speak for all brands, but as this is the “dollar” sportsman I’ve been quite impressed with the AEA guns. You could go with a Daystate or FX .30 cal, but it’ll cost a lot. My counterparts who have tested the AEA HP MAX in .30 or .357 seem to absolutely love it, though.

[@travisnunya4641]

In my opinion the daystate alpha wolf get I think 71 for .22 cal and over 100 for .30 cal

[@LifeOnLine40]

Pretty impressive

[@Thekmalone82]

Last time I checked the powder equivalent to a 30cal was a 30 odd 6. Or maybe a 303 british. There 2630 ft lbs

[@Subtlenimbus]

30 cal firearms cover a huge range: 30 carbine, 7.62 x 39, 7.62 x 51 (.308), 30-06, .303 British, .300 Savage, .300 Winchester Magnum, etc. I could even fire .32 acp with an adapter through my .308. Hardly matters when then most powerful air gun in this vid does about the same energy as a 22lr pocket pistol using CCI Velocitors.

[@ChriEl-g4v]

The most powerful air gun does not come close to 30 cal firearms the 72 cal Zeus air rifle is producing 1,500 ft Ibs of energy, a 308 rifle muzzle, energy with a federal fusion 165 grain going 2,700 fps is 2,671 ft-Ibs and that muzzle energy and velocity can go up or down for instance a 308 Hornady Superformance 150 grain SST is going 3,000 fps and making 2,997 ft-Ibs . Air guns rely more on Momentum than they do on kinetic energy or velocity like a firearm does.

[@ChriEl-g4v]

@@Subtlenimbus 308 and 7.62 x 51 are not the same the 308 is loaded to a higher SAAMI .

[@Subtlenimbus]

@@ChriEl-g4v true, but they are dimensionally the same.

[@ChriEl-g4v]

@@Subtlenimbus actually the dimensions are different the bullet diameter for the 7.62 x 51 is 0.308 inch and the 308 is 0.308 inch the case length for the 7.62 x 51 is 53.72 mm and the 308 case length is 51.2mm and Overall length for 308 is 71.1mm and the 7.62 x 51 is 77.16mm .

[@dermond9132]

5:41 underrated fake laugh. 0.25 speed it sounds like John Holmes in the 70s :-)

[@dark30welderwelding11]

Great ... video You guys work well together.

[@jhonyfelipe5179]

I gotta a cbc nitro x 1300 airgun 177, 400 ms and it is able to explode an apple easily, i use the hollow point.

[@alexanderb7197]

Ammo availability ammo producibility Barrel warping Silence factor ^add in these and airguns start looking better correct me if i am wrong but an airgun can fire indefinitely whereas a firearm will eventually overheat the barrel

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Now that’s a good question: when practicing for a fast shot competition, we noticed that the moderators we installed on the front of our barrels were super cooling instead of heating. One guy even noticed frost 😆. I’m not sure if that translates directly to the barrel itself or not, but it’s true that there are no hot gases.

[@jessiebrown6112]

Should shoot clay blocks, more consistent of a media I would think. And maybe show more of the force applied? Idk

[@geoeconomics5629]

Take .22 air gun pellet than put it in .22 lr gun and behing it put Stinger case take out the bullet add more powder and put it behind air gun pellet you get speed 2500 - 3000 fps

[@nicorallysport]

In cal.177 it would have required a minimum of an extreme gamo socom 1250 37 joules. Where a magtech N2 extreme 1300 39 joules. Where better the hatsan BT65 elite pcp, with 50 joules power kit, which even for one. 177 hit hard !. With fairly heavy hollow point hatsan BT65 elite pcp.177 does good damage Good video guys! 👍

[@georgezama9803]

You should tune the pcp equal to. 22 lr. 👍 anyhow good video

[@MrJames19676]

Great video again mate thanks 😊

[@carlschock6747]

The 177 and 22 didnt get a fair shake, both were shot at the very bottom, the 22 at least would have exploded the top off the same way the 25 did

[@arktis6990]

Not to mention, red-fires are notorious for being under powered, a Crosman would have desecrated the top of that Apple.

[@midnightmodder]

@@arktis6990 I've been shooting redfires out of a Gamo S Whisper. Gen 1 10x. 22cal. The punch half way through 5/8 double sided lamenant. Cracks the back side open with a quarter size opening. Gonna half to try the Crossmans.

[@peterodriguez6408]

That laugh though.....creepy

[@northballistics]

Good work gentlemen!!! :) Thank for the video.

[@ryanm540]

Shoot an FX Impact .30 caliber. It’ll blow the apple up. Amazing that guns like FX and the AF Texan aren’t considered “firearms” yet. But, it’s a good thing

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Have you seen the videos of those guys shooting out a few hundred yards with those and nailing prairie dogs? It’s awesome

[@andyhyde4711]

May I say those results are inconclusive to me(: I question everything. I wonder what pellet spreading more? Spread equals damage? I wonder if the higher caliber pellets just run through a kill. Or do they rip it up. My gamomo mag gen one with hunters open up nice. When is too much penetration bad? We want these pellets to enter and spread right? A clean hole in a snipe.. might it not get away?

[@DeezCheez69]

With air guns it's rare to get too much penetration. Most Pcps are regulated and shoot around 950 fps depending on caliber. Couple this with lower grain weights compared to .22 lr and you have a weaker gun all around. The only advantage is that you can order them (And suppressors) without having to do paper work.

[@andyhyde4711]

@@DeezCheez69 I agree. A .22 rifle is better. On the second point. My generation 1 gamo magnum .22 shooting 1300 fps. With a 14 gr pellet I shoot up to 22gr pellets. With the silencer those wont be heard. With a raptor pellet its as loud as .22lr Penetration wise. It will blow through 5/8ths clear hard maple half the time. Fun wise. I really like my air rifle. Bought lifetime supply of about every pellet. Didnt feel guilty haha 65 lb break sucks!):

[@andyhyde4711]

@@DeezCheez69 in pa its legal for small game. Im going to be fox and coyote hunting. When the fur gets right

[@DeezCheez69]

@@andyhyde4711 I was mainly talking about pcps but yeah. Might get a .25 just because it can be silenced without all of the paper work unlike my .22 lrs

[@andyhyde4711]

@@DeezCheez69 put up a video if you do.

[@johnhawk9321]

Cool video

[@Americanson24]

That was fun...thx.

[@tommyboy1986]

AEA has a full auto .357 coming out called the FURY. Produces 350ft pounds energy with single shot, burst fire, and full-Auto modes . Comes out next year I think. Makes me wonder though if air guns are gonna start getting regulated like firearms as the technology is evolving so rapidly.

[@gmatos123]

Keep that comment to yourself buddy. Muzzleloaders generate around 1000ft-lbs and they are not regulated. They are just not at the same level as a firearm.

[@tommyboy1986]

@@gmatos123 ummm it's a muzzle loader lol

[@dirktaljaardt8591]

Speed destroys

[@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv]

Hatsan .30 carnivore break barrel predator polymags all filled with Vaseline in the skirt .. 55 ft lbs 48 grains at 775 fps... Significantly more power than a Theoban Eliminator or Gamo Hunter Extreme.

[@handy1arnwald947]

aea challenger 32" in 30 cal will do 200 ft. Lbs with slugs. More energy than 22 magnum

[@otter7267]

You look weirdly like my younger brother, surreal enough for me to type this.

[@KingHaggis]

No contest, I think you really need to bring a big bore airrifle if you want to beat a .22LR firearm in terms of power. It's too bad we're not allowed to have firearms in my country. Now I have a Benjamin Bulldog and an Evanix Ibex .45 PCP airgun and they're fun to shoot with but I would much rather have a good .22LR rifle just for the convenience. Plenty of power and no need to refill with air. I have no need for heavy weapons, I just wished .22L firearms were legal here, sigh.... :-(

[@Jaxon-iu6vb]

What country?

[@KingHaggis]

@@Jaxon-iu6vb Netherlands. There's no limit on airgun power here. We're allowed to buy an AEA Zeus if we want to but a little .25 mouse gun isn't allowed :-)

[@Crottedenez1000]

@@KingHaggis well, still better than your neighbor to the east : max. 7,5 Joules, not even thinking about firearms…

[@KingHaggis]

@@Crottedenez1000 yup, poor guys... 😕

[@upperdeck89-19]

I love you guys great video

[@abominablearex6487]

I don't know if you'll believe me. I have a gr1600w which they claim to be a 48 fpe gun. I didn't believe it at first. But holy crap that gun is powerful. It's a 22 cal and it does to vegetables like turnips what the 25 cal in this video did to the apple. 😅

[@ShootingGearReviews]

That was AWESOME

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Heck ya it was!!! Thanks, man; that was fun. I’m totally sold on that slowmo coverage, too; seeing the projectiles fly, hit, then spin off is totally fun.

[@davidcardozo7475]

What's the one you recommend? i thinking i buying one but i not sure

[@dagjensen6733]

Like food shooting?

[@everythingdude4265]

I feel like the .25 and .30 would create a very similar wound cavity as a .22 and expand as much if not more than a .22 but the .22 definitely has more penetration but I think the wound channels and expansion of the .25 and .30 might be about the same as the .22 even though a .22 weighs typically much more and has a bit more speed and energy the .25 and .30 are still bigger in diameter thus releasing a good impact.

[@zdendajirasko8188]

I dont think the.25 and the .30 could expand just as much as a .22 just based on the speed, the do have a large surface area So that could make up for it

[@everythingdude4265]

@@zdendajirasko8188 that’s literally what I said

[@Ambulrai]

The .177 hit bottom of the apple. This wasn't fair.

[@jessecole1011]

Great video, guys. Could you do a melon or pumpkin with Texan(any caliber) and Condor and Huben. .25...... and would donate to see the Western Rattler. 357?! I'd love to see those results! Thank you very much guys!

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Sounds like fun to me!

[@michealasamson]

The foot pounds don’t seem right because I’ve seen people shoot and get 30 foot pounds out of the 17 and 40 with the 22 and around 700 with a 30 CalBut they were using 300 in grain ammo and 39 grain for the 177

[@jonmcdonald8631]

39 grains on a .177? I believe they typically run between 5 and 10 grains at the most I believe.

[@Ineedcoffee-n4j]

a 39 grain 177 doesnt exist lol

[@andyhyde4711]

Hah. Just occurred to me. I watch you both.

[@GRBuy]

This test is not sens because the rifles have a big different power

[@zahidmubeen4450]

Excellent

[@Phuskooz]

Why do people like to keep stickers on their guns?? I took them off my 30.06 immediately

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Logan Joiner chalk it up to laziness 😆; not sure why I didn’t take it off until just a couple of weeks ago.

[@laplaqua9351]

Cant even buy the 22LR rounds no more

[@killer_bro_empireitsme3613]

Wow really

[@eddiecahall3824]

Nice, but I would have kept it break barrels against the 22 powder rimfire! PCP air guns makes it off balanced.

[@Subtlenimbus]

80 ftlbs is about what my lcp 2 22lr with CCI Velocitors puts out, and it is smaller than my hand;)

[@randomshit898]

So?

[@gmatos123]

Who cares dude… Airguns do not compare to firearms in ft-lbs but they are able to kill just as well.

[@jacobackley502]

@@gmatos123 the airgun guys really put us powder burners to shame. They're out hunting deer and hogs with guns 1/10 as powerful and having no trouble

[@everythingdude4265]

@@jacobackley502 the thing is the .25 cal and .30 cal in this video probably have really similiar impact power as the 22lr because they are bigger in diameter but they lack the energy that the 22lr has so they do not penetrate as deep but I feel that in a sense it’s not always about the foot pounds of energy and it also come down too the size of the projectile and it’s ability for a bigger wound cavity than smaller projectiles but of course the foot pounds have a lot too do with it as well but I love air guns because of the crazily amazing clean kills you can really get with them!!

[@chaseyourdreams4104]

Crap show design there you use the CCI stingers for the 22 long rifle and then a Diablo for the 30 you should have made a fair and just use regular Winchester Remington the 22 long rifle and a hollow point as well for the 30 caliber

[@ShootTechSysteminc]

Great video bro. I also like ben channel.

[@dunnoyolo2238]

The stock on the Take down.22 are garbage 🗑 you should look at Magpul for replacement for sure 😎

[@hastyhillfarmand4x480]

So moral of the story a 22lr is better than dam near any air gun yet the air guns cost almost 1000 dollars all said and done but i can get a semi auto Winchester 18 shot 22 lr for like 120 bucks...

[@TheDollarSportsman]

You can certainly always go 22lr! The point is more to show that airguns are a viable, quieter option that can also often be used where firearms are prohibited. Brands like AEA are pushing the envelope in power these days to the point that they’re very effectively competing in 22lr range power. I’m hoping to get my hands on a couple of their newest designs to test.

[@cjcurryjr]

I think six months from now nobody's going to be wasting food as targets.

[@charlesmiller7848]

Watermelons are not food.

[@roadoffing8707]

LoL i guess great minds think alike! As i was posting the comment below on your other video, you posted this video!!! if only i wished for a million bucks! Lol Here is the comment: Hey man you’re an engineer, saw your reply to a comment you said, the new one has less foot per lb than the old one. Can you please elaborate on this? Maybe a new separate video ? (For other models as well) This is important info to a lot of us who may want to use it for hunting. I know everyone is hung up on FPS ( marketing stuff :) truth is high speed can affect accuracy etc etc). I don’t care if the pellet gets there fast, i dont care if the pellet takes the bus and gets there in two hours lol what i want to know is the energy amount it carries with it. Would it achieve penetration? So please please please can you include you calculations of energy in foot per pound? ( you are an engineer you know this usually is measured in Joule but i’ll take whatever is easier/available ). Thanks keep up the good work!

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Gotchya covered good sir!! 😎😎😎

[@chrisholley1336]

This is what we did our Rabbit Hunting with last night...in Mississippi that's illegal if you get caught. Lol just saying

[@deandeann1541]

The best air rifle target is raw chicken eggs. Try it. Cheap too.

[@dangerous8333]

What a waste of a really high protein food. Not to mention I would prefer people didn't start buying up all the eggs and making the prices go up on those as well when there's a million other things you could use.

[@3Ddude101]

@@dangerous8333 LOL! Are you serious? You really think the price of eggs could skyrocket simply from guys using them as targets?? With Biden in the white house you've got a helluva lot more to worry about than the price of eggs.

[@Crottedenez1000]

…cheap too… it’s just a crime to waste food by shooting at, while entire populations are starving to death…

[@deandeann1541]

@@dangerous8333 I have harvested enough food with my own hands and labor to feed hundreds of people for their entire lives. What have you done to feed people you hypocrite.

[@deandeann1541]

@@Crottedenez1000 I spent 27 years of my life feeding people - what have you done other than accuse me of egg waste without even knowing me?

[@marseillaisdanslesang1833]

Top .22

[@SpYucaipaSoCal]

I wanna see the exit holes on the melons

[@cjcurryjr]

This is going to sound strange, but can anyone explain American's fondness for shooting food?

[@Ineedcoffee-n4j]

because it fun to make things splatter instead of just putting holes in paper

[@joeklasen2845]

The fact you are shooting from about 20 to 30 feet with a scope and just hit the target

[@TheDollarSportsman]

So you have a problem with me hitting the target 😂. I tell you what: go do some plinking yourself and enjoy; it’ll make you happy.

[@joeklasen2845]

@@TheDollarSportsman I have been shooting since I was about 8 years old and I was shooting a .177 caliber rifle on my own and taking gophers at at least the same range as your shots with open sights so you go ahead and call me whatever you want

[@TheDollarSportsman]

@@joeklasen2845 good :); go shoot. Have some fun; it’ll do you better than critiquing shots that aren’t yours on the interwebs 😎.

[@noneyabizz8337]

@@joeklasen2845 that's no impressive feat

[@acmr3215]

get yourself an airforce texan my friend

[@TheDollarSportsman]

I’d love one :)

[@tigerboy60]

Next Time tell us how far your target is.

[@deandeann1541]

I hate red delicious apples. I don't blame you for shooting them. I shoot them and worse.

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Did he really not wear any hearing protection when shooting the 22lr ?? They're at 120+ decibels from a rifle.. BTW, that 22lr round is 125 ft lbs. They have ones up to 200.

[@TheDollarSportsman]

That’s about the same as the Seahawks stadium when they’re winning 😎. It’d be fun to do a comparison if the higher power rounds vs these

[@tommyboy1986]

@@TheDollarSportsman you should try the AEA terminator .357 Semi-auto using the H&N slugs and AEA Zues .72 cal

[@Subtlenimbus]

A 10/22 puts out about 140 decibels to the shooter, not 120.

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

@@Subtlenimbus Sure, it depends on the round, though. Subsonic is around 120, supersonic closer to 140.

[@3Ddude101]

Hearing protection from a .22 rifle? Are you kidding? Maybe for my grandmother.

[@cesaralonsoredondo1023]

No mezqles peras con manzanas. Que te pareze un 22 lr contra un 300wm🙉🙉🙉🙉

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Ooo esto debo provar 😎😎😎

[@secondhandlyon2603]

Are those ballistic watermelons?

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Always 😎

[@deandeann1541]

Foot pounds?? I lift air rifles with my hands!

[@dangerous8333]

Huh?

[@FarmerFpv]

You triggered a bunch of vegans on this day. Merica!

[@krishsoundar3857]

don't waste food! :)

[@cigarsparrow]

The stuff you can get away with living in country areas! Do you know how much a watermelon cost in the store ere in NYC!? I'd be over the budget by the second shot😄🤣

[@aaaaa1957]

I waited for the watermelon shot. Got suckered into watching for nothing.

[@TheDollarSportsman]

aaaaa1957 definitely not for nothing. If you didn’t like the apples and melons, you Wouldn’t have liked the watermelon. We saw from the melons that it wouldn’t make enough of a difference on the harder watermelons. Check out the pistol video, though: you can really see what a difference it makes there: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpeqf55ogcp5btk

[@zacmcgowan3079]

Get you a 17 hmr be done with all that garbage

[@royalchaser8090]

.17 HMR would have completely vaporized the apples and blown the melons in 2

[@erikkline7197]

exactly!!!

[@Ruata_Hmar]

like before watch

[@sultanmamari7004]

Some people are need to that an apple to eat it ,,dont play with foods

[@Ineedcoffee-n4j]

wah

[@ryanbrand3946]

This guy needs to get out more.

[@popolosovrano1566]

Sparare alla frutta Non è balistica!

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Però è estremamente divertente, sai? 🥳 Di dove sei comunque, che parli Italiano?

[@Wingman115]

👍🏻👊🏻🇺🇸

[@josephflowers9990]

a lot of talk

[@trevorpeters4358]

Nice mustache an melons. I’m in Portland Oregon so I get to say that a lot but for other reasons here. Lol

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Hahahahaha

[@jimmikhan1980]

Waisting food help others who are poor.use other thing like clay bricks.

[@dondedejemicaballo]

I CAME HERE LOOKING FOR A SHIT LIKE THIS, NOT DISAPOINTED

[@mitsuoo1012]

Sorry, kind of stupid video. What wouldnt go through fruit?????

[@Ineedcoffee-n4j]

wow you completely missed the point of the video

[@henrytrotier5995]

Disappointed with the performance of the .30 Just found out it was the only pellet that wasn’t hollow point🫤.

[@TheDollarSportsman]

Yep that makes a huge difference. I’d like to make this video again using some of the airguns I’ve gained since this one :), perhaps using pellets for one and then slugs for another video.