'23 Crosstrek - Break-In Oil Change

[@rodmakermagazine7117]

Subarau, like many automakers, puts special oil additives into the oil they put in their new cars. If you change the oil too soon (before their recommended change schedule) you remove those important break-in additives before they should be removed.

[@stevel1475]

I know Honda has a special break in oil, as I have seen an actual Honda Technical Service Bulletin for the service center. I have not heard of any other import manufacturers with a break in oil other than Honda.

[@vicant2961]

I agree with you and why 5w 30 oil

[@BorderTurrets]

False, break in is the first 1k with a 5k-6k oil change. Thats outdated information you keep repeating from the 70s lol

[@nuenevoie]

My EU hybrid is called to warranty in 2500 miles to drain the factory oil. How's that working for you?

[@nuenevoie]

​@@BorderTurrets1000 miles is also mentioned in EU manuals for break in driving. These first 1000miles you go up and down the revs not going on red line! After that they call you to 2500 ( 5000km) to do an oil change. After this Subaru Europe calls you from 15.000km to 15.000km for oil changes. How is the weather in Canada vs Europe vs Asian continent...vs Japan. They should have specific grades to those climates Instead they push this 0w20 in hot weather and cold.

[@nuenevoie]

Good job. Yeah the same engineers that now are going back to 5w30 in canada Yeah right, trust them because they love your money.

[@Casey_Schmidt]

We are in the unfortunate position that we must attempt to decipher between what information is from engineers and what information is from “regulations”.

[@Jaygorski]

Prefilling is not needed, just oil the seal and screw it on, dump in some 0W-20 and drive it before the blue light goes off. I'll be using a Purolator BOSS filters in one of my changes.

[@ruckinehround6965]

New first change the metal is normal…..not chunks just fines….. my 2018 was like that and I just switched to 5w30 this year after 22000km it’s my sons car now and I just changed his oil at 38000km and a little metal showed up….. little concerned because the car has been well taken care of and I do all the maintenance, so we will be keeping an eye on it, it also measured out 3.92 liters from the 4.4 liters added. So it’s consuming a little.

[@johnandreas7160]

you can't make the additives get "mixed" back into the oil, but if you want to shake the bottle no harm no fowl

[@mariovazquez3874]

Using a different filter and oil, do not affect your warranty?

[@Casey_Schmidt]

Not that I’m aware of.

[@Steelologist]

Filling the filter with oil doesn't provide any benefits because you need pressure from the oil pump, not gravity, to prime the system. It's better to leave the filter dry and start the car using the simulated flood clearing mode. To do that, push the gas and brake pedals together as far as they'll go and crank the engine between 5 and 10 seconds. That will not start the car, but it will fill the filter with fresh oil. This needs to be done only once after you've completed your oil change and repeated after each subsequent oil service. Again, only once during the first start.

[@Casey_Schmidt]

I’ve used the procedure for dry cranking the engine to build oil pressure for a long time. It’s something I do for every oil change. As far as pre-filling, I used to believe what you are saying here. But, after watching the thorough experiment conducted by The Motor Oil Geek channel on pre-filling filters, their evidence clearly showed less wear when filter are pre-filled. It’s not a lot of difference but it’s still there. I have since switched side and pre-fill all filters when practical.

[@seandwyer3598]

@@Casey_Schmidt Hi--are you saying you HAVE used the priming method described above which involves pressing the accelerator and brake simultaneously while cranking the engine until the oil light goes out? Do we really think pressing the brake is necessary? I mean--you gotta push the clutch in, too, right?

[@dalecesafsky4506]

Use 0w20 as engineers know what’s best for the vehicle.

[@Casey_Schmidt]

This car is only uses 0W-20 in the US for emissions reasons. In Japan, Subaru calls for 5W-30.

[@thetechlibrarian]

The engineers might know what’s best, but that’s not the only factor, you also have the marketing department that needs to compete on low running costs, you also have epa and cafe regulations, I know on my Mazda there is a wide range of oil in the book based on location, I haven’t decided to run 5w 30 just yet but I understand the argument

[@notTHATtim]

I'm all for fuel efficiency. I care about the air we breathe. I'm not opposed to emissions regulations. It's all made a dramatic, positive difference over the last few decades. But automakers still make compromises to hit certain standards in the US. This motor was designed in Japan to run 5W30 and that's what it should run.

[@joshmiller2725]

Does Subaru really call for 5w30 in Japan for this exact engine? If so that’s wild. 0w20 can’t be nearly as good unless it’s a very cold climate

[@BorderTurrets]

I use to agree until my 2024 Crosstrek 2.5 said 0w-16 is needed and 0w-20 should only be used in a pinch now. Its clear BS to meet CAFE standards for emissions and I'm done with the thinner oil to get .05% better gas mileage at the cost of my eninge's longevity. There is now way in hell they spec'd ONLY the engines in the US while the rest of the world uses either 0w-20 or 5w-30 without issue. Its clearly a scam at this point.

[@7thheaventruth]

? Why didn’t you show oil pan location for draining

[@Casey_Schmidt]

I figured that was kind of a given. There’s a dedicated cutout in the undertry.

[@7thheaventruth]

@@Casey_Schmidt thank you I just got the 2024 outback limited on Dec 17 2023 afew day back with only 7 miles 1st time subie owner here so it’s great for us to know I haven’t been under the car yet thank you 🙏 and Merry Christmas 🎄

[@Casey_Schmidt]

@@7thheaventruth congrats on your new car, you’ll love having a Subaru. They’re really fun. Maintenance on these is pretty easy so I don’t think you’ll have any any trouble!

[@7thheaventruth]

@@Casey_Schmidt thanks I’ll be subscribing to your videos. Please keep them coming for us new Subaru owners that don’t know anything of Subaru first time ownership. Thank you for all you do.

[@Charkatak]

Wonder if pressure rating of the bypass valve on Mazda filter is the same as on Subaru filter. Any ideas?

[@Casey_Schmidt]

It is the same part as the Subaru filter simply with a different label. Subaru has since chosen a different supplier.

[@JB-fl2gp]

Doing an oil change too soon, and using the wrong oil. 😑

[@Casey_Schmidt]

You do you, man!

[@BorderTurrets]

Let me guess, you still think that the manufacturer puts in "additives" in the oil to break it in fully ? That's outdated boomer information and the manual says first change at 5-6k miles while taking it easy for the first 1k. However, I changed my oil at 500 then 1000 because of the garbage silicone they use to glue the engine essentially. I've seen Blackstone oil analysis showing a large amount of silicone in the oil during the first 1k miles. Oil is cheap a new engine will cost a fortune.

[@Casey_Schmidt]

@@BorderTurrets also consider the fact that the oil I drained had a significant shimmer from the suspended metal particles and those were only the particles big enough to see. Who knows what the oil analysis would have shown. I feel better changing the oil sooner to get the remaining manufacturing residues out.

[@BorderTurrets]

@@Casey_Schmidt Same, I saw a significant shimmer as well both times I drained. I even inspected that Subaru Blue filter and let me tell you its garbage for sure. I had no clue about Fram making them until I googled who made them for Subaru because I couldnt believe how bad the filter was. Let the dealer try to say fresh oil and a Wix 57055 ruined the car lmao

[@nuenevoie]

​@christianrojas2488 my subaru hybrid sais to break in 1000 miles. But the next change is jn 10000. Go figure. Eu warranty says to come to change the factory oil in 2500 miles. Why so many BS regulations for the same engine ?? Eu US Asian..Japanese. why?

[@garybaldwin1061]

I watched half way through then I realized you have been watching too many kook oil videos on you tube.

[@BorderTurrets]

Get that "Genuine Subaru" blue fram filter and 0w-16 oil change. There's extensive research in how garbage the filter is, how thin the oil is suggested, and I was a sceptic until my "Genuine Subaru Filter's" gasket fell right off lmao. I run 0w-20 and a Wix 57055 on my car.