238: Mike Israetel - Static vs. Dropping RIR throughout a Mesocycle

[@TreatSpin]

I find sticking at 4 RIR for my 4 rep max for every lift seems to have an infinitely high SFR

[@osmosinsane9611]

Yeah i kinda like the approach of doing compounds 5 to 10 then when i see that i could do 4 more i know the next one will be 3 so i stop doing sets when i hit a 4 rep. But on isolation movements its a bit more complicated i believe.

[@Decocoa]

Looool

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

LOL. Wondering if people are intelligent enough to enjoy this joke.

[@Decocoa]

@@TypicallyUniqueOfficial Yeah mate deffo a 500 + IQ joke this no mortal could ever hope to understand

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

@@Decocoa you'd be surprised how difficult it is for people to understand sarcasm in person let alone a gab like this via text.

[@jonfreelove]

Mike looking like a Sith Lord the force is definitely strong

[@ReviveStronger]

Hahaha that's what I though too 🤣 - Coach Jess

[@BrodieGiesbrecht]

Can't wait for the book! :D Take my money, RP!

[@ReviveStronger]

You didn't have to wait too long hahaha! - Coach Jess

[@vasilzhiliev6057]

I can't wait for that fucking book

[@mrbartuss1]

Why isn’t there an answer for the bloodwork question?

[@osmosinsane9611]

My experience with covid19 was 3 to 4x worst than flu. But it didnt last too long, pretty glad about that part. No respirators, but got KOd three times by the fever, wich never happened to me before.

[@notepad9883]

How big was your sample size for the flu? Unlike the cold which is a 100% harmless virus with zero effect beyond the seasonal allergy-like symptoms it provokes from the immune system, flu is a serious disease that does (at least some) actual damage to the body. I think I've gotten the real flu--symptomatically at least--maybe a handful of times, none since I was a kid. I assume most people's experiences are not far off.

[@osmosinsane9611]

@@notepad9883 didnt need a sample, i was diagnosed by phone out of symptoms that were 100% only covid-19 possiblr. Very coagulative damages. No phlegm at all, wich never happened to me before with the flu or anything. Very painful joints, hardcore energy drop, 7 days of pure pain. First 3 days neck was killing me as if i headbanged at a heavy metal show, wich i did nothing with the neck before that. Started with a sore throat the day before. The biggest issues started on the third day, when it added up to a very bad digestive system squeeze. Fever would only come up after using salty warm water to gargle; when i did that, the whole thing made me have a dry cough and 40+ celcius fevers that would knock me out. The worst was the back of the neck, knees, elbows and finger pain. That was horribly burning. Super heavy internal burns. Couldnt get it out of my throat since the absence of phlegm, but when ibgargled with salt, very hard pieces of white would eventually come out when i forced it. The whole thing lasted 7 days, i caught it because i live with my dad and he had it with pneumonia symptoms, but me it was totally different. He only had it for a day with super heavy breathing issues and fever. Mine was stuck in the throat in a place im too french to name, my dad had his removed so it litterally went through to the lungs. Amygdales in french. Honestly man, i work in a hospital, no big surprise. But when the doctor received her tests (april that was), i was already over it. The digestive system couldnt digest well for another 2 months prior to my convalescence.

[@osmosinsane9611]

@@notepad9883 yeah alot of people in the hospital where i work dies from the flu. Its super nasty compared to what alot of people suggests.

[@ReviveStronger]

Sorry to hear that, glad it didn't last long then! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@gavin7miller]

@@osmosinsane9611 I had similar mate. It fucked up about 2-4 months of solid gym progress my stomach and energy levels fully functioning again thank god

[@genrygrossmann1898]

On RIR, this concept might hold truth if we train always in the same rep scheme and with the same exercises, but we vary them from one meso to another to force progress via new stimulus. Plus we do strength periods, then cut and bulk. So all this adds variety and last meso numbers have no meaning any more. Example, if last meso one did 140kg squats x 6, this meso he plans to do squats with reps over 10..and next meso over 15.. only. Maybe after 6 months, one is back in the block where he does squats x 6 again.. and then chooses smith, instead of a free bar. Shoot always close to 0 to 2 RIR is a safer bet I would say..

[@ReviveStronger]

The concept holds truth in all scenarios imo. Plus, the rep range and exercises aren't that different meso to meso especially within the same block. For example, if you have high bar squats and SLDLs in and you're still progressing well with the scheme you have, why would you change it every meso? Everything is always changing for sure, but the RIR concept remains the same for whatever phase you're on. Moving from around 3/4RIR on week 1 to 0 on week 4/5 isn't that complicated, after you've practiced it for a bit, I teach it to people completely new to RIR and withing the first couple mesocycles they've adapted to it. You'll always get days when you get it wrong but that's just with everything. But the accuracy gets better and better the more you do it. I don't think it's overcomplicated. - Coach Jess

[@NoOne-qs8tv]

I can't find an episode or article on Israel's training theory for busy people. I remember reading it in the hypertrophy book but I don't have access to it now :/ anything online I could read or watch?

[@ReviveStronger]

Not too sure, you can ask him, that would be faster haha! Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@notepad9883]

Next hypertrophy book announcement: The marketing guy decides that the drop date will be timed for the next expected genpop rush to gyms in the USA...January 2022.

[@ReviveStronger]

🤣🤣 Don't jinx it please - Coach Jess

[@boxerfencer]

Rofl! How serendipitous! A topic ive argued in the fb group ad naseum, static RIR over decreasing it. I imagine Mike will argue for lowering it since he proposed that schema years ago and it's his go-to. I expect no surprise there. Rofl!

[@ReviveStronger]

Still worth a listen :) - Coach Jess

[@boxerfencer]

@@ReviveStronger for sure. Disagreeing with Dr. Mike has defined my training, in more ways than one. Ideas have coalesced into clear and distinct protocols with reasoning behind them.

[@SuitedSlime]

This guy still seemes really energetic for being dieted so low

[@TheNietzschian]

Compared to how he is normally, no.

[@ReviveStronger]

Agreed, compared to his normal, definitely not as energetic haha! - Coach Jess

[@gamerchristina1079]

💪💪❤️❤️‼️

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks! - Coach Jess

[@Stuarttombros]

Mikes hood looks like hair from far away lol

[@ReviveStronger]

🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for watching! - Coach Jess

[@ruzhyophoenix4370]

24:40.... you say that..... 2021. Shall I follow medical advice? Nah I'll just get my medical advice from a Facebook meme.

[@ReviveStronger]

Thanks for watching?^^ - Coach Jess

[@SuitedSlime]

Dr. Mike, Why didn't you ask Eric in the debates, "how do you know your rir is 2 if you don't go to failure"

[@ReviveStronger]

I think it'd be better to ask on his IG to get an answer :) - Coach Jess

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

Going to failure on anything except legs/deadlifts is easy imo.

[@ReviveStronger]

Easy maybe, but then you have to take into consideration recovery etc! Thanks for watching :) - Coach Jess

[@notepad9883]

LOL leave it to a Russian to suggest pirating his own textbook! :)

[@ReviveStronger]

🤣🤣🤣

[@gf6x3gkmfw38]

our own textbook

[@Croissantrophy.meme.channel]

Mike thinking he's smart, yet he still believes deloading for bodybuilding is necessary when you don't care about strenght xD

[@nikolamanojlovicci]

Your argument boils down to "xD", I'm totally convinced

[@danielback2541]

man u are smart lmao xd

[@TheNietzschian]

Yes as we know you can accumulate fatigue into infinity if you're just training for hypertrophy. ????? Are u slow ?

[@mikp8519]

@@TheNietzschian Show me the evidence that fatigue actually accumulates if you manage your training variables intelligently.

[@jasonabercrombie7869]

I thought the whole idea of progressive overload is you are loading your body with stress over what it can handle. Why is it absurd to suggest that stressing the body out beyond what it can tolerate forever with no break is a bad idea? Even old school gym bros took breaks from training after shows. Arnold chilled on the beach and drank margaritas for weeks before he started training for the next one. He just didn’t call it a deload.