Alabama's Future Under Kalen DeBoer - Josh Pate Cut

[@JoshPateCFB]

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[@retiredoba2836]

I agree… NO DEFENSE should be expected to play as much as the “D” had too play in 2024. BAMA’s offense was 3 - out way too much. Unable to drive the ball and consume clock. Reliance on the big play nearly exclusively… bad scheme. I don’t blame Milroe exclusively as some folks are. I’m not sure anyone can explain the Jekyll and Hyde, inconsistent, feast or famine performance. Maybe at the next level Jaylen will continue to grow. I wish the best for him. The “O” Line (mostly at Tackle) weren’t very good. You can choose to argue my opinion is wrong if you want to… you will be wrong… The “Time of Possession” in every game they lost is skewed to the opposition’s advantage. Big advantage! Check it out… the data is available. Need to see now if DeBore can Coach or not. Hope Grubb will come help him.

[@Jaydub06]

I am a life long bama fan and I have to say we are the most spoiled, irrational, unrealistic fan base in America. 9-4 is a good start to the Deboer era. He was not going to go undefeated and win a title in year one. Bama will be fine. Deboer will be fine. But the “dynasty” was done a long time ago. There will be no more dynasties the way college football is currently constructed. It’s year one, not year four. Relax.

[@robertd9850]

But what if they are not fine? They might not be fine. Then what will we do? Will we be okay? LOL

[@glennvanzandt3011]

I like the way you think. I agree 100 %.😊

[@frankieparton5122]

​@@robertd9850 Easy find a new Coach. Simply has that

[@robertd9850]

@@frankieparton5122 I don't know. We might not be fine. What if we aren't fine? We must be fine! LOL

[@frankieparton5122]

@robertd9850 Find a new coach that will be fine. If that don't work Find another then another. Until you are fine

[@Tony_Calvert]

The 2024 defense was the best defensive unit since the 2017 season. The offense was the problem this year.

[@oldman3440]

I agree but i can't remember the last team when the defense could stop a running QB. ROLL TIDE !

[@robertd9850]

I don't know. Vandy seemed to run through us pretty good.

[@Officially2333]

@@oldman3440we never have been able to stop a running qb I’m used to it at this point

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

So good that they couldn't stop Vandy and jOklahoma 😂😂😂

[@oldman3440]

@@Officially2333 I think when coach Stallings was there .😀

[@glennvanzandt3011]

Josh, I've said the same thing. We haven't been dominant since the 2020 season. People forget just how undisciplined and penalty prone we were his last two years. Additionally, teams we should have blown out. We struggled to win some of those games. So, your take is absolutely spot on. College football has changed, and it won't ever be what it was. I still believe Deboer will do a good job.

[@Waitaminit-wo5er]

All Bama fans want to be hopeful and optimistic, but DeBoer didn't show me anything this year - except that he's in way over his head!

[@randomhero8662]

Yup. Saban overachieved with the 2023 team. One play away from a title shot with an undisciplined squad and subpar QB play. It's those type of years that really made Saban stand alone as the goat. As far as DeBoer, I agree, he'll be fine. It's all about the QB and it looks like Ryan Grubb may come to Bama. If so, huge.

[@almightyjaden1852]

@@Waitaminit-wo5er4 regular season ranked games? retained ryan williams? recruited very well? retained mbakwe? Brought isaiah Horton in? pls stop

[@MacMarco-op6vc]

@@randomhero8662 I think 2023 was Saban’s coaching opus. That team didn’t belong anywhere near the CFP final and it was one play away. Unfortunately, they didn’t win. So, it won’t be remembered as such.

[@deronthomas1566]

@@almightyjaden1852trenches are lacking.

[@davidwright9550]

I agree 100% Josh. I do not believe we will ever again see one team create a dynasty by winning 3-4 NC's out of 6 years. The entire landscape and culture of college football has changed drastically. I do believe Coach DeBoer will be highly successful at Bama. ROLL TIDE!!!

[@cainharris8072]

@davidwright9550 Based on what? He looked like he can't handle the pressure!

[@EB-bl6cc]

@@cainharris8072 how so? just because he lost a few games? You do realize that Saban in his first year at Bama went 7-6 and lost to LOUISIANA MONROE, right? Guess he couldn't handle the pressure either, we shoulda canned his ass

[@robertd9850]

I expect an undefeated season in college football will become as rare as it is in the NFL.

[@dragonsurge1]

Undefeated seasons were already rare before NIL and the transfer portal. Even for Bama. The largest programs will continue to dominate because they can pick whoever they want.

[@robertd9850]

@@dragonsurge1 Rare as in never. Vandy is the third richest school in the SEC so they could leapfrog everybody but Texas and A&M. Well, except for that pesky academic standards thing.

[@nikitanosikovg2703]

We literally just had 1 last year. The only thing that changed is that they would have to win 1 more game.

[@robertd9850]

@@nikitanosikovg2703 I said will BECOME rare and that is NOT the only thing that has changed. NIL changes everything.

[@Christian-Rogers]

You're talking about Vandys endowment, which is around 10 billion. Thats outside the top 20 nationally, but #3 in the SEC. Athletic program wealth is a different critter alltogether. UT and A&M are the only schools in the top 10 in both. Theres no other big time football schools in the same zip code. Endowment doesnt lead to winning in sports, tho. Never has. That's all about wealthy donors.

[@ctclardy]

As a long-time Alabama fan, I believe Debor's first season with a 9-4 record is highly acceptable considering this is his first year at Alabama and the enormous changes in the college football landscape. I am completely willing to hold out for the next 2-3 years to see how he and Alabama progress before I feel the need to express my opinion one way or the other - unless he completely tanks next year, which I highly doubt.

[@MMcCree7]

Crazy part is we beat most of the tough teams on the schedule except TN and lost to Vandy, OU and Michigan.

[@Waitaminit-wo5er]

There's probably no doubt that we'll have to endure at least two more years with him. But I predict he'll be gone after that. I've seen this movie before!

[@JoeBidensdirtydiaper]

we just need a QB lol that’s literally it.

[@CPF222]

@@Waitaminit-wo5erstop overreacting

[@tacticalmattfoley]

@@Waitaminit-wo5er The last time a coach lost to Vandy, he was gone within a 2 years.......

[@kyle5771]

Ryan Grubb pairing back up with DeBoer this offseason would be a big win for the offseason and moving into spring ball

[@alexmangrum90]

How exactly? What has grubb done other than 1 good season with Washington

[@MacMarco-op6vc]

This was a punt year. Deboer has a team he’s built now and Bama will be fine. Offense should be great this year.

[@GoatedAtNFS]

yeah ok. LOL.

[@MacMarco-op6vc]

@@GoatedAtNFS lol. People like you are going to be very upset.

[@genotriana3882]

Idk about that. We watched players consistently get worse (esp. Milroe) throughout the season. We saw the opposite under Saban.

[@chrishaugh1655]

@@MacMarco-op6vc keep the cope coming.

[@007st7]

Yeah the team 1 year removed from Nick Saban needed a rebuild 🙄. The same team that was in the playoff last year

[@joshfreeman4644]

Good talk Josh! I think all of us bama fans needed to hear that.

[@nicholashardin3704]

I agree with you JP! I’m 45 years old and been a Alabama fan since I was old enough to watch the game, I just saw where Ryan Grubb was fired from the Seahawks and I’m hoping that KD gets in touch with him and brings him back to my Alabama Crimson Tide

[@Jwalkiin]

I would be hesitant in hitting the panic button. Just because of two names. Ryan Williams and Keelon Russel. Jalen Milroe was 75% of Bama's problem this year. The other 25% was play calling.

[@BangAim1]

No he wasn’t dude.

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

He literally cost them the Vandy, OU, and Michigan games all by himself. He was that bad.

[@editnosmirc4489]

The offensive line was almost just as much an issue as Milroe though.

[@RLjuicygucci1]

@@editnosmirc4489they weren’t great but when Milroe can’t set protections properly, takes unnecessary sacks, and is so limited teams can stack the box, it makes their lives even harder. OL can absolutely improve, but they already cut down the sacks given up from last year to this year in half, and I have to imagine with more health, stability, and a QB that can read a defense and make routine throws they’ll be even better next year.

[@patrickdezenzio4988]

@@editnosmirc4489 This. This year was the first year since maybe Saban's 1st year at Bama where the offensive line looked like Florida. They couldn't block, couldn't protect the QB, rarely opened up holes for the RB. Yeah Milroe was hit or miss but much of that was the oline's fault.

[@samsheppard298]

There will never be another run like Saban and Alabama had. Even Saban couldnt do it again.

[@LilMikey_1]

Being 22 What a time to be alive tho I miss coach Saban but I’ve moved on !!!!

[@bjm121100]

Bama was so deep at every talent position this year. I just don’t understand. Like with how stacked they were at skill positions, you could you should be able to pick a play at random and gain at least 5 yards

[@Cj-yr3pq]

Nick saban's greatest accomplishment was making the playoffs with Jalen Milroe at QB

[@masonbooth2363]

And turning Blake Sims into an All SEC QB

[@Jeff0608]

Josh that's why I love your show every fairweather fan was calling for wommack head yet he puts out a top 11 overall defense best since 2017 and most are returning unlike last year where bama only had 4 returning starters I just hope the offense gets right love this channel.

[@okayum3398]

In my personally most humble opinion Bama would’ve caught a lot less heat from cfb fans if Deboer put Simpson in after half against Michigan. However I think Deboer knew Milroe was leaving so he didn’t bench him in his last game because getting benched is way worse than a “bad game” for a players draft stock.

[@DubReed00]

I appreciate that Josh was nice in his assessment of Jalen Milroe but the dude was straight trash and doomed this team! He struggled to hit wide open receivers, couldn’t read defenses and was turnover prone.

[@stevenfuller5133]

I agree with everything you are saying my brother…. He made us one dimensional and our OC didn’t help him either with the shitty play calling. But I can also blame it on Milroe too because he is the head of that offense and if the OC calls a play that he knows won’t work by the way the D is lined up Milroe could have used an audible that could work but I don’t think he ever did that and I saw way too many wide receivers running free down the field while Milroe is trying to play the hero and getting stuffed. And so many RPO’s where he should have handed the ball off and he kept it. Milroe is a primadonna. Him and the OC alone are the reason we have seen so many transfer from the offense.

[@KONGDADDY69]

And yet he declared for the draft....he ain't getting drafted

[@DubReed00]

@ I think he will get drafted on day 2…maybe 3 but I’m just filled with excitement that he’s no longer at Bama.

[@stevenfuller5133]

Same here!!! I was worried that he was coming back

[@CrashB111]

​@@KONGDADDY69 if Anthony Richardson could go in round 1, Milroe will be fine in the draft. He's still QB3 on most boards for his physical talents alone.

[@dharsch7362]

This is good stuff Josh! Great work!

[@sstewart44]

Some badass recruits coming in for Bama also!

[@jimsomerville3924]

His QB, 3+ NFL WRs, and a veteran OL were key to his success at UW. Think you gotta wait to judge until he gets his QB in there. Then see how instrumental Grubbs as OC was to his offense.

[@bonelesspizza]

Going into the season I expected 8-4 at worst and 10-2 at best (at the end of the regular season) so realistically I am fine with how the season went. Losing to Michigan was rough but I think it perfectly sums up how QB was the #1 issue of the last two years. Jalen Milroe (love him as a person) is just not a championship caliber QB even if he has played really well at times. We have two solid QBs that are plenty capable of winning that starting position next year and taking the offense to the next level, and the defense should be just as solid as they were the last half of this year as long as nothing crazy happens lol

[@treysmith9371]

What got Bama to the rose bowl last year was purely coaching. The roster wasn’t head and shoulders above what it was this year

[@AustinSmith-xr7qd]

I agree JP. Deboer saw no reason to put in a different QB and potentially destroying his confidence due to milroe digging us such a large hole off rip. I personally saw big improvements through the team as a whole from the last 2 yrs of saban. Less penalties. More disciplined and defensively was way better in certain aspects. Not saying there wasn't room for improvement nor will I say it was like one of sabans natty teams but I saw over all improvement in areas most fans wouldn't pay attention to. He let it be what it was because he knew it was feast or famine with milroe. Not to mention fans fail to realize when teams like vandy Oklahoma and Michigan when they play alabama they're going to give bama their absolute best and hardest shot like its a national title game. Not everyday you get to play a vulnerable bama squad. ROLL TIDE

[@FreezerdaBlue]

As a depressed Aggie fan, be grateful your first year with a new coach still resulted in a good season. I feel your pain over the bowl game though

[@MrWilliams4k]

Thank you for saying this Josh. We are trimming the roster and adding quality players and thank god we'll have a QB who can throw the damn ball.

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

I know people are kind of down on him atm but he did a fantastic job with Washington. I still think Bama is set up to have a great offense with Deboer once he finds the right QB the defense is questionable but they still attract elite talent so it shouldn't be too bad.

[@Waitaminit-wo5er]

So, the new Bama Standard is "it shouldn't be too bad"? Sad.

[@RLjuicygucci1]

Defense was actually much improved this year.

[@matthewwilliams7913]

Daboer Fd up... he would have been a legend and loved forever in the pnw at UW... he left and went to Alabama and is despised because he can never be saban

[@connorfitz4276]

Next year everyone will see Milroe caused nearly every problem on this team. Bama will be elite next year

[@jeeper19]

What’s sad is Deboer didn’t see this and let it ruin a season. If he is afraid to bench a player for hurting his feelings, then he needs to be coaching 13 year old rec league kids and not highly paid college semi pro players. Deboer makes 10 million a season to win football games

[@IHATEGOOGLESOMUCHFUCK]

Lmao so what's the excuse next year then?

[@drewharrell7657]

Facts!!

[@drewharrell7657]

@@jeeper19I think it was a lot more convoluted than that. I think we just have to give him a pass year 1 and start judging year 2

[@editnosmirc4489]

The offensive line was almost just as much an issue. In fact the offensive line has been a weak point for Bama the last 4 seasons.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Saying they were being “held hostage” by the quarterback makes it sound like both Deboar and Saban bear 0 responsibility for picking and running with Milroe or it’s not their fault they weren’table to find a suitable replacement when they saw the horrific floor and highs were everyone started lying to themselves that he’s Vince Young. This isn’t the nfl, there’s no contracts that we know of publicly binding Milroe to the starting position or something about a salary cap hit if they toss him

[@kellybranham6278]

Good insights! Thanks for the show.

[@maxroland853]

Love the show man, always speaking honest and telling it how is.. i do agree, each game relied on Milroe. i like him but he wasnt the guy for the position for what Deboer wanted to do with his offense.

[@antonkeiser2466]

DeBoer came in super late into the recruiting season and now has the full championship season to put things together. I think he’s gonna get it all together just fine

[@theknowitall4090]

Very well said Josh. Depth is what set Bama, UGA and others apart. Teams always had starters as good as Bama and UGA. The 2nd and 3rd teamers were not as good and they would beat teams in the 2nd half. Bama was the first team to get raided by the portal and NIL, then UGA and Mich this year. After the playoffs Ohio St, Penn St, Texas and Notre Dame are gonna lose some guys. It's just the world we live in now. You may go 12-1 one season and 8-5 the next. You don't build a PROGRAM anymore. You have a one year team.

[@marinetidefan]

Nailed it!

[@matthewflakes1481]

I’m excited to have DeBoer as the coach, he’s a winner. The biggest noose around his neck was Milroe. He is not a quarterback and he was the established quarterback when DeBoer arrived.

[@davidcole2337]

Think this year will be the year tell us if Kalen is going to be there Long Term.. Jalen Milroe forced Kalen to run an offense that not his style.. Next Year they need to go 10 - 2 or better and make CFP or People will start question the direction of Program.

[@blackhillsrider2626]

There is nothing wrong with expecting excellence.

[@Teukel-f7h]

You said it in a nice overview. Next year, since Milroe is gone, we got a shot! DeBoer can take his team back. Won't know how to act when we put a qb on the field again. Roll Tide!

[@JamesClark-fn2db]

My thoughts exactly Josh! No one will have a 15 year dominance like Bama had. Just wait and see how nobody will have depth and injuries will determine your season.

[@justinshultz1656]

Only Bama fans would be pissed about a 9 and 4 season. Im never going to pull for anyone other than my Crimson Tide. I'm just glad we are who we are, and we will another championship.

[@christiancolvin615]

Every single top 10 program would be pissed lmao. But bama georgia ohio state the big dogs. Will be pissed if miss the playoffs when there's 12 teams period. We don't de mediocrity. But it was not the record or losses. It was how they played. If we lose 4 games cause got beat fine good game. But we beat ourselves completely in 3 games. And Tennessee we did as well but didn't look that bad. Only bama fans lmao😅

[@bb3585]

I doubt Milroe will get drafted, but I'm awfully thankful that HE thinks he'll get drafted.

[@masonbooth2363]

Truth..

[@CollegeFootballCasey]

Great video Josh.

[@mikehorton8695]

We had brand new playbooks on offense and defense. We also had a late hire at head coach. I knew this year would be hard. Normally you have to teach about 25% of the players from scratch (new enrollees) and a few new coaches learning the playbooks, but everyone started from scratch with a short offseason. I believe they did really well considering.

[@KahlealPierce]

Ryan Grub may be back at bama 👀 could help

[@joshfreeman4644]

We need a real OC on staff. Losing Ryan grubb and replacing him with a TE coach isn't something you can get away with in the sec

[@lynnd6305]

Always an Alabama fan yet did not like football. That changed with the first time Jalen Hurts took the field. I had walked in the den where my husband was watching. I was hooked. I continue to watch. Tua, Brice, Devonta and Minkah! I named a much loved cat after Minkah. My season of loving football is over. Saban made it about so much more than winning a game. I was always proud of Saban and how he presented himself and his desire to shape young men. I watched 10 minutes with the new guy. I watched 1 interview. My football interest left when Saban left.

[@kennethfagan9738]

Let's all be honest, Jalen Milroe SHOULD HAVE BEEN benched by mid-season. Milroe IS NOT a good qb, and he is primarily the reason Bama went 9-4. In fact, I completely 100% blame Deboer and Milroe for the Michigan loss. Milroe SUCKED the majority of that game, and Deboer SHOULD HAVE taken him out in the first quarter. Deboer NEEDS to grow a pair and coach to WIN the game(s). Deboer is being paid $10 million a year. It is expected for him to be a better coach and make the right decisions. This season was EMBARRASSING, and his coaching was PITIFUL!!!

[@KONGDADDY69]

Crazy that Milroe declared for the draft

[@Average_Middle_Aged_American]

Experts say he is 3rd best QB in the draft. I think he should be a running back or a QB that is used as a rusher a lot.

[@drm2364]

​@Average_Middle_Aged_American he's definitely not the third best

[@boosted9319]

Major step back.

[@treidfowler]

In this new era, success will come for the teams that realize the core HAS to be the guys you recruit and develop from HS, just like the old days. Portal guys should add to the team, not be the team. Us South Carolina fans saw this mentality work great for us this year. LaNorris Sellers and Dylan Stewart and majority of the defense have been around for years. But oh we need a #1 back? Let’s grab Rocket Sanders. Stewart needs a partner on the D line? Kyle Kennard was a perfect match

[@belowaveragegamer8270]

Crazy thing is if this was before saban we’d all be raving how good of a season it was. Honestly we all need to relax and realize kdb needs time to get the players in there that fit his style then we’ll be fine. Wouldn’t surprise me if next season is about the same bc it doesn’t happen overnight but year three I think we’ll fire on all cylinders

[@BrianGlaze]

Well said josh. This is going to sound weird to people because it's hard for them to think outside of the framework of a record meaning you are flawless. Nick Saban's Alabama teams of the past few years have been incredibly flawed but his coaching prowess pulled them through some games that they probably would have lost otherwise.

[@zackjones2683]

Alabama‘s about to do the same thing USC did around 2007-2011 where they’re still really good but it feels lacking because of what you were used to in the past years

[@rustthelion8270]

They probably just need a new offensive coordinator

[@robertd9850]

Probably?

[@KingDavid7579]

I think you nailed it Josh. I told people before the season started they will win or lose with Milroe. 12-0 or 6-6, Milroe was going to be the Quarterback the whole year.

[@RollTide81406]

Very true about investing in current players. Ohio State is loaded with 4-5 year guys, with a few portal guys mixed in. It looks to be what Kalen is doing. Invest in the talent you have and build team chemistry.

[@robertburnett768]

Lot of good insight. College football has changed and the days of dominance by any one program are a thing of the past. If you can complete for a Championship once or twice every five years will be amazing moving forward. The thing that was so hard for Bama fans to stomach this year is just how bad they looked against inferior teams. Saban always dominate trams with lesser talent. Deboar will need to be able to do the same moving forward or he may not make it past year 2.

[@zatchg1212]

Recruiting and development is still critical, but the transfer portal and NIL has completely changed the game and made the playing field more level

[@phantom20071]

Good analysis. I'd like to see your indepth look at Ohio State. They looked awesome against Oregon.

[@unsaltedhoagie8484]

In regards to NIL, what are your thought on there being a individuals annual salary cap on players designated as transfers that is far lower than the high school commitment annual salary cap to try and deter people from transferring after a year just for more money

[@Luke-bj8mr]

How was Saban struggling at the end? In 2020 he won a natty, in 2021 they played in the natty, in 2022 they finished 5th, and in 2023 they lost in the playoffs. Seems like he was doing just fine.

[@jeeper19]

I thought sunshine pumpers were just Auburn fans until reading the comments. Make all the excuses you want for Deboer but he failed this season. First loss to Vandy since 1984, this is the same Vandy team who lost to Georgia Southern. Favored by 21 over Oklahoma and lost by 21, 0 TDs. It has been a long time since any of us watched an Alabama team get dominated from beginning to end in a game and never had an answer, even the Clemson championship we started to come back and was competitive. Didn’t even show up against a Michigan team that was playing as many backups as starters. You blame a lot on Milroe in the video, between Oklahoma, Auburn and the first half of Michigan Milroe accounted for 14 turnovers just in the last 3 games in the season and Deboer never benched him? Why not play Simpson in the 2nd half of Michigan? At least show us that you’re even paying attention and looking forward to the future. Take off your crimson colored glasses there were plenty of signs this season that exposed Deboer. I think he’s in over his head, this is not Fresno State

[@PurpleHazeVanNederlands]

They'll keep blaming Milroe next year too

[@Waitaminit-wo5er]

Well said!

[@Harrison244]

Losing to 3 unranked teams with the level of talent that they have is shocking. If Kalen doesn’t win 10 games next year I do think he will be out.

[@nevillesmith426]

While I agree with most of what Josh says, there were some very troubling things I saw this past season from the coaching staff... #1 - they were penalised for having two players on the field that share the same number (Vandy game) - worst (most boneheaded, most preventable) mistake I've seen by a coaching staff in a long time. #2 - Nick Sheridan's play calling was very confusing, almost as though he had no idea what he was doing. Not running the ball with RB's, too many RPO where Milroe kept the ball. #3 - Vandy game - Malachi Moore's tantrum in the closing minute, woud not leave the field even though the coaches were calling him in, unsportsmanlike for kicking the ball before the snap... (not the only example of this kind of embarassing, selfish and unsportsmanlike behaviour from Bama players this past year). The Deboer coaches were not in control, the inmates were running the asylum. #3 the Defense got turned around by season's end and were much better, but in the games around the Georgia game, they were too predicatble and did not disguise coverage at all. #4 - Not putting Simpson in vs Michigan -- Milroe stunk up the joint in the first quarter, yet he played all game for some strange reason (same for Oklahoma loss). Simpson deserved a shot, even if to stablise the ship after Milroe's 3 turnovers in 4 plays. (admittedly the weather played a role, but IMO Milroe is victim to his emotions -- both good and bad, things spiral down out of control or spiral up to great achievements.)

[@MMcCree7]

The crazy part is that Bama beat all of the tough teams on their schedule (except Tennessee) and their blunders came against the teams that weren't as great. He's proven he can win the big games at Bama (undefeated at home)...just needs to win the winnable games.

[@Waitaminit-wo5er]

And that's called having your team prepared to play. DeBoer failed to do that three times this year and that's reason for worry.

[@godfr012]

I love this Josh and have faith in Kalen. But, the only thing I'll say is that while I had faith in Milroe and think he should've been the starter, there were times he should've been benched too. Flat out. Also, most Bama fans came into the year hating Jalen Milroe, so playing him was coaches way not the fans or admins way. However to your point,i believe he was thankful of Jalen for staying and felt it wouldn't be right to bench his captain. Which is why coach Saban never named captains until after the season

[@troyster28]

I was not worried about Deboer until the Michigan game. Milroe had nine lives, and he sure ran out of them in the 1st quarter of the Michigan game. His inability to bench him this season was truly frustrating and worrying because Milroe fucking sucked and he costed us a playoff birth. Deboer needs to grow a damn backbone bc as of now I think he is incredibly soft. His postgame presser of the Michigan game was also very underwhelming. There is no excuse for losing to that god awful Michigan team and he was way too casual about it. Figure it tf out coach I can't believe I paid money to watch that miserable offensive performance.

[@factsofmatter6513]

What the hell would benching milroe in the Michigan game have accomplished??? Maybe they would have won a meaningless bowl game? Please you don’t know a lot about football it appears

[@LilMikey_1]

@@factsofmatter6513you don’t know ball losing a competitive game is ok but it’s how you lose and being that it should have been a win is what’s aggravating knowing deboer could have benched Milroe him playing that bowl game wasn’t going to help his stock at all he just made it worse Alabama is a winning program period kalen is acting very soft out here he has no real respect !!!

[@troyster28]

@@factsofmatter6513 benching milroe may have accomplished absolutely nothing for the game, but it would have shown that he has a tolerance for failure and upholding the Alabama standard, but nah its okay keep your head up Jalen you'll get em next time. F all that. This roster was too talented to have a subpar qb sabotaging the season and only a subpar coach would allow that.

[@troyster28]

@@LilMikey_1 FACTS

[@LilMikey_1]

@@troyster28 exactly thank you they try to look the other way it’s going to be ok Jalen you’ll get it next time f that it’s bs Deboer is wrong for that and for us to not have a voice to say nothing is even crazier cause I would explode on that whole coaching staff Milroe should have been benched but hey all that is showing is Deboer doesn’t like to work with his other options he’s a down for cause type of coach if his qb is throwing away the game he is cool with it instead of hurting feelings so what if they hit the portal other people deserve a chance you never know what somebody is capable of !!!!!

[@sticksentertainment]

Year to year, it’s all going to come down to which schools have the deepest pockets.

[@jefferyvest3597]

Most people predicted a 9 or 10 win season in his first year and thats exactly what happened. No big surprise. What makes it seem worse is the vandy loss. You have to keep in mind vandy was not your typical vandy this year. They was pretty decent. They also beat other sec teams and took texas to the wire- 27-24 if i remember right. if they recover the onside kick they may very well have beaten texas too. So this was pretty much expected year one. I believe year 2 will speak volumes on what to expect under deboer.

[@noidea3177]

I’m ready to end the KDB era.

[@derickclemons369]

I got no problem waiting for Coach too establish his program. I think it will be tougher too win the national championship simply because upsets happen in sports.

[@dsdddsd4543we]

9-4 at any other major program would be viewed as an incredible success. The Alabama standard is just so high.

[@cpwwv]

Haaaaaaave you met Clemson? Fans are screaming bloody murder over a 10-4 season.

[@Average_Middle_Aged_American]

All I wanted was to make the playoff 1st year and we were one spot away from that. No, we should not be losing to unranked teams. No, DeBoer does not suck. He has had to dumb down and adjust his offensive to existing Bama players. Milroe is a great guy and I wish him all the best, but let's get real... DeBoer would have not ever recruited him for his starter.

[@jamesfountain6183]

As I told a guy that works for me, Nick Saban is gone & Alabama will be an average team moving forward. No more dynasties due to transfer portal & NIL.

[@tim12970]

I agree we need to invest in the talent we recruit but even though we had the #2 class in the country, we lost the in state recruiting war in epic fashion. Auburn Got 8 of the top 10 recruits in the state and the other 2 went somewhere else. Cant have that kind of trend going on.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

If we're entering into a time when the head coach isn't the alpha who can sent a player home on a whim, the program is no longer under his control. Using terms like "held hostage" to explain a relationship between a player and a coach is not what you'd want to hear......and that's not the first time I've heard that very same descriptor used regarding DeBoer and Milroe (and what we've heard are the "Cancer 5").

[@mikeezell4092]

What was Sabans record his last year

[@richardhildebrand104]

I think Alabama's whole roster was held hostage by our quarterback - because 6 of our good wide receivers and RB Justice Haynes transferred out b/c our quarterback could only throw to the top 2 wideouts and did most of the team's rushing.

[@shutuplige6524]

Sabans shoes will never be filled. they're gonna have to learn to live with that

[@michaelknowsstocks5170]

we need a qb to run the offense efficiently we need more help on dline we need a competent oc we need to shore up the oline until the above gets fixed we will still have issues

[@Mmmmmk247]

We also saw him take over a team that was a mix and match of a Saban recruited team. Washington, Michigan, Texas A&M…. So many teams were in that same position and they all were hit and miss and Alabama was still the better of those teams named

[@WarNvrChanges]

The best path for success for Alabama is STABILITY. Let Deboer get his guys in there and play his style of football. You won’t have to wait very long because those guys are already on campus right now, Bama is about to remind all those celebrating their supposed downfall that they’re here to stay. Get ready for a high octane offense because it’s coming. Keelon Russell to Ryan Williams is gonna be a known phrase over the next couple years

[@Byrd21590]

Seems to me that Jalen had some kind of deals struck when KD got there.

[@wadeburns8913]

I agree with everything you said and I hope you are correct rtr

[@captnjim44smith74]

Speaking of young QBs making an impact, watch Austin Simmons at Ole Miss. He’s a teenager who is two years away from 20 !

[@Deontelewis846]

I mean it could also be because both the qb is tryna learn a new system and the coach is trying to learn a roster he inherited.

[@Landood]

9-4 isn’t that bad? When you are a tier 1 coach, going to a tier 1 school that’s kind of bottom of the line to tow. WHO they lost to and how they lost to them is more of the issue to me. Besides Tennessee. How they lost at Oklahoma end of the season was disgusting.

[@daddio159]

Josh, why do you think this about Alabama? What do you think they still have that many other programs don’t?

[@editnosmirc4489]

I agree. Alabama will go down as the last great dynasty of the sport.

[@tonycollins2740]

Ryan Grubb coming will help A LOT! IF coach decides to go after him. In any case, Bama will look better next year as everyone is getting used to this "free agency" format. Each team will look different year to year. I would rather have 2 or 3 stars that can be developed than 5 stars who are only worried about money (theres no fun in that). Im all for players getting paid, but Im also for the ability to do whats necessary by universities. Maybe someone can implement a draft like the NFL, and cut down on a lot of this nonsense, thats basically what college football is now, the minor league of NFL. Impose a draft and eliminate college transfers.

[@westcoastnative2523]

What ended up happening was no longer could the SEC (mainly Alabama) hog up all the talent. Now these other schools (Michigan, Norte Dame, etc) with deep pockets can come in and recruit these players and pay more than Alabama. Also the new playoff format spreads the wealth. Now everybody has a shot. Didn't see it this year, but give it a couple of years. Teams, like Arizona State, are going to be competing regularly.

[@natebama4764]

It’s not that we lost four games. It’s how we lost, and who we lost to, as well as the clear lack of preparation, lack of discipline, and accountability. Our team did not grow and get better throughout the year, We got worse. It’s clear this coaching staff is not the authority in the building, These kids are. When players are talking about they need to get to meetings on time and there’s no accountability for those actions that’s on the coaching staff when your quarterback and almost everybody else on the team gets worse than they were last year that’s on the coaching staff when you can’t adjust to what a team is doing well against you that’s the coaching staff. When you don’t pull the quarterback when he’s thrown four interceptions and had six turnovers that’s the coaching staff. It’s poor coaching it’s not ridiculous expectations there’s a standard at Alabama and it’s not being met by the coaching staff or the players because of the coaching staff in my opinion

[@masonbooth2363]

Recruit 3 stars that will stay and be developed…and then cherry pick critical 4/5 stars are specific positions..develop mature deep senior heavy roster..with 4/5 stars at critical skills is QB, WR, CB, Edge Rusher..

[@wadeburns8913]

I still remember Tua coming in and winning a title as a freshman and so did Trevor Lawrence. Neither one got a second championship

[@DA-oq9dz]

Deboer is that guy who bought a used Mercedes and BMW with 90k miles on it and is just now realizing what he bought.

[@Waitaminit-wo5er]

No, Alabama is the school who bought a guy with an impressive resume of wins that were racked up mainly in the "minor league" of college football, that now seems to be in way over his head.

[@PurpleHazeVanNederlands]

Penix and Grubb carried Deboer

[@d.weathers]

As a long time Oregon fan.. I just want to see ☝️ natty in my lifetime and I’ll be good to go with winning conference championships thereafter

[@TheEs150]

i hate his nil shit. it keeps being like this college football will die

[@mikehorton8695]

Also, I do not believe Milroe was ever able to digest the entire playbook properly. I don’t think he had enough time.

[@Jeff0608]

And people.talking bad about Deboer yet hes the only coach to ever win 9 games first season at bama and thats counting all the great coaches bama has had been a fan since 79 and seeing some of these pampered fairweather fans are ridiculous