Arkansas Beats Auburn + Hugh Freeze Postgame Comments - Josh Pate Rapid Reaction

[@JoshPateCFB]

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[@Shartmyself]

Why didn't he call out the receivers for drops that led to INTs? I subscribed. love the show

[@pogi_rozell]

To me personally if your going to get mad at what hugh said, get mad at every head coach then cause everyone does it Nick saban deion Sanders Lane kiffin Steve sarkisian Brian Kelly should I go on, if it stinks it stinks Welcome to college football. Everyone has jobs if you do a poor job at your job your fired it's reality or you get called out for doing a bad job. the fact that people making this a topic is so crazy to me

[@rolandmiller5456]

Josh. Whether he's right or he's wrong there's a time and a place to say it and I don't care what you defend him on you're not going to win this argument not that you want to. Also if you're going to get on Billy Napier for getting on the fans there's no business for you defending you freeze for getting all these players. It's the job of the coaches to get those players ready.

[@pogi_rozell]

​@@rolandmiller5456 you can get a player ready all day everyday but when he's in practice lightning it up then comes to game day and he's doing everything that he's not supposed to do in every game at that point it's on the player not the HC it's either you got it or you don't. it's not a time and a place to say things when you want to get threw to your players, that they gotta step they game up. What josh said about billy I don't know nothing about that , but it's nothing wrong with being honest especially when you got a lot riding on it and you can lose your job and the guy didn't even say it in a rud way he was still being respectable about it and some how some way y'all make this something big the fact that this deserves a reaction is so crazy it's so unnecessary

[@gradyhayes8570]

If you rated the top 100 best games of all time and the top 100 worst games of all time, you would find Auburn in the top five on both.

[@Bethelight-z9s]

Why bc of one bad kick 6 20 years ago 😂

[@Bethelight-z9s]

If you look up Arkansas with 27 overtime games with Kentucky and Ole Miss, it’s more than what Auburn has

[@bigevilshark1958]

​@@Bethelight-z9s11 years ago, and there are many more amazing Auburn games than just the Kick 6 LOL

[@darronwilliams4641]

I say every year auburn can beat anybody and lose to anybody. They can go 4-8 or 11-1 any given year.

[@ckatech]

3-2 Auburn vs Mississippi State

[@charlesokelley2961]

T.J. Metcalf was personally responsible for 4 of the 5 turnovers. That young man has a bright future ahead of him.

[@peytoneldringhoff3421]

we were in the same class last year and he is also a stand up guy. very very bright future.

[@neilmcinnis7200]

Wooooo PIG

[@Sasparizza]

DK Metcalfs cuzzo 😅

[@mathompson53187]

The 'College kid' argument went out the door the instant these Universities started publicly paying players as well as offering full ride scholarships, they are fair game for criticism (obviously you can still cross a line). The players are professionals now just like the coaches ... truthful observations of poor play just as observations of coaching flaws doesn't cross a line at all.

[@godbodyscience2102]

Freeze spoke nothing but the truth……WDE AS THE HEAD COACH HE ALREADY TAKES THE BLAME FOR EVERYTHING…..and CHF has been open a honest about EVERYTHING….WDE

[@AU88]

Ask his wife & a bunch of his former Ole Miss signees about how much truth that scumbag tells.

[@gradyhayes8570]

Hey, Auburn fans went through the ups and downs of Gus, Bama being in the same state and the last 5 years being really bad. Anything they say is understandable.

[@editnosmirc4489]

Should have kept Gus.

[@gradyhayes8570]

@@editnosmirc4489 Uhh

[@BrianCorte-mb4fi]

Nice come here to hear about 10 mins of auburn talk when Arkansas won and gets talked about for a min

[@cghinds]

The problem is yes they are college kids, however, in today's NIL world they are paid to play for the college. When it was just the coaches getting paid all the blame is on their heads with NIL I don't see that to hold true anymore. Like in the Pros, the players are held accountable because they make a paycheck for what they do. These "Kids" are getting paid to play football for the college they should be held responsible as much as the coach is for poor performance.

[@shuvlhd78]

It’s the manner in which the HC holds them accountable. If the player is coachable then he will take what and how the HC spoke about (publicly or privately) relative to his performance to heart, and focus on improvement. However, if there’s a weaker element in him or generally within the locker room, then toxicity can grow, even from those players that weren’t directly targeted by the HC. Team unity is critical during challenging times. Paid or not, these kids are 18-22 years old and things can easily get off the rails.

[@Diovolente]

Wrong. NFL is completely different these are kids who are literally still developing as players. Getting paid now doesn’t change that fact. As a head coach your job is to get your players prepared and ready to play both physically and mentally. If they fail on the field it shows in certain ways. Some things are players performance and others are lack of preparation and development from a coaching staff. He knows and those players know they all need to be better. Throwing them under the bus like that basically sounds like a guy who feels the heat on his seat and is tryna save his ass

[@pogi_rozell]

​@@shuvlhd78the fact that y'all spinning this into something negative just because a x player has a bad option about his old coach is crazy to me. Since day one when things gown down hill hugh been putting the blame on his self saying. this is on me and it starts with me coaching them better every conference when something went wrong with the team.yes he call them out for poor performing this is his job and when they're not doing good he can be fired at anytime. He didn't say that just to throw them under the bus ,he did it to straighten them up. If you got a problem with hugh saying it , why you didn't Have a dang problem when Steve sarkisian and Nick saban and Lane kiffin and heck Brian Kelly even said why you didn't have a problem when they did it

[@samariohoward6298]

they not lil kids..they paid employees...if i was bad at my job as an 18 or 19yr old ADULT im getting fired or put on notice..as i shouldm​@@shuvlhd78

[@Mikevdog]

Auburn is run by Yellawood

[@FRWHELAN]

It's time for the "QB whisperer" to start SHOUTING!

[@davidglenn2739]

Amen

[@predictorbibulous3327]

Freeze was right. You can't fix a problem unless you can identify what's wrong. He's just acknowledging that they have to address the turnover issue. The suggestion that you shouldn't criticize the players went out the window when the NIL money came in.

[@skipgumphrey9579]

I’m thinking the issue is with the way it was done. One of the earliest things I learned during my career in the military was that you praise in public and punish in private. I mean that when you’re dealing with an individual or a couple individuals. If you have an entire team then it’s different; you can simply say “we” need to do… When you basically call out the QB on national television, a lot of folks are going to consider this as throwing the players they’ve tried at QB under the bus. I don’t have a personal problem with any of it though, I’m sure they’ll get things sorted out one way or another. I just wanted to add an extra potential viewpoint to consider as to why some folks might be upset about it. Congrats on the win Hogs. RTR

[@BenjySparky]

These so-called kids are making more than 90% or more of us making the comments. Hugh has every right to say what he said.

[@rolandmiller5456]

Well there's one problem with that Benjy. Are not making near the money that you think they do there are certain players that make more than others that's how nil works.

[@litedawg]

@@rolandmiller5456 Well , Roland, when you ask for a check for your work , and you suck at it, then youre open to whatever criticism comes along with it. Thats part of being in the adult world. They asked for it, now they got it.

[@ziff_1]

having a "right" to say it doesn't make it smart. Potential recruits look at those clips and think he throws his guys under the bus. There's a reason most coaches are very careful not to say stuff like that, even "in context".

[@litedawg]

@@ziff_1 and if he says nothing , he looks like a coach that’s too concerned about feelings and not tough enough to get results

[@t.k.1319]

You guys seem to be under the impression that all of these kids are making more than 100K. Only about six of them are. The rest are getting a few thousand dollars, which essentially amounts to a minimum wage job when you think about the hours they put in all year. Yes, it is totally fine to hold these kids accountable. Most successful coaches hold their kids accountable in private. Good luck getting the best players in the country to come there.

[@MichaelLutzTech]

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is such a great summarization of the OSU game.

[@skiracing18]

lmao!!!

[@CoolHandLuke813]

Players whine and cry that they want to be treated like grown men. Well, this is part of it. Grow up.

[@robertguy6479]

Hugh Freeze definitely should have said it because it's true, and yes they are in college but they are getting paid more money than the majority so I don't feel sorry when a coach tells you that you suck at your job

[@t.k.1319]

You and everybody else making the same tired point seem to think every single person on that roster is getting paid huge NIL money, when it’s actually less than half a dozen that make anything notable.

[@robertguy6479]

@t.k.1319 Either way they are getting paid a substantial amount of money just by getting a free ride to a top university. I believe discipline builds character and they are in a place where they have to learn how to be men. A little hard coaching never hurt anyone and I come from the generation of not giving trophies or recognition for not performing the way you should.

[@kevindaniels9943]

Freeze was right for saying it

[@AU88]

Anywhere else he can place blame besides on himself.

[@huntercarden3754]

@@AU88he said it starts with him. What else is he supposed to say ?

[@AU88]

@@huntercarden3754 “I am unqualified for this job. I resign.”

[@scotts6067]

They may be college kids in age but they are getting paid. At this point with NIL collectives they are no longer student athletes they are employees. You can't have a product without labor

[@auchaplainfci8336]

Thank you, Mr. Pate, for your wise and kind words for my Auburn Tigers. I’ve been a fan since Shug was there. We must be patient, which isn’t easy and we will be fine. I pray my Auburn brothers and sisters heed your words.

[@jdw5678]

The records show that Shug had two straight losing seasons before he started winning (that 2nd losing season was 2-8). Dye and Tuberville both had losing records in their first seasons. Got to give coach a chance.

[@Gamecock1978]

As a Gamecock fan and grad, I can totally understand!!! Patience is a virtue and a MUST!!! I wish War Eagle the very best on the rest of their season!

[@auchaplainfci8336]

@@Gamecock1978 Thank you

[@izzybobkelley4465]

These r college kids that are getting paid now

[@ei7565]

Agreed, I don't get the fear of "throwing players under the bus, especially with NIL". As a player, you're getting money because you can play well and should be under scrutiny just like coaches.

[@DaniBoi_AU1113]

Despite what the fans might think, I think Auburn’s team can turn this around. The only reason Auburn has been losing games is because of self-inflicted things that I know they can change. I felt like Auburn played better overall than Cal and Arkansas, but turning the ball over 5 times in each game won’t win anything no matter how many yards you gain. Defensively, 3rd and long killed Auburn and most of them were because of extremely lucky throws or horrible flags from the refs. All I’m saying is Auburn could very easily be 4-0 right now if only a few things went differently in each game, because Auburn did not get beat from a talent standpoint and the non-turnover stats back me up

[@litedawg]

jeezus dude.

[@270eman]

@@litedawg He is right. We have wide receivers open all over the place but "F**k it Thorne" just throws it up to wherever, "Somebody will get it" He says. Our RB had a massive gain and fumbled the ball. Auburn is shooting themselves in the foot.

[@cotybuckner5416]

I also will point to this. This was the first game for the most part where Arkansas’s defense played 4 quarters.

[@bferg_au4788]

I bleed orange and blue, and I'm only 28. Only ever known manic highs and manic lows with Auburn. Football season is pain every year. Hard to not just be apathetic at this point. We have a vastly superior talent roster to Arkansas and Cal (and NMSU), but we can't win a raffle. It would be embarrassing if I had anything directly to do with it. Hugh is right though. His scheme is working. He can't make qbs not suck and rbs not fumble. Defensively though, getting burned on 3 down linemen appears to be a progrum identity thing for us at this point. Right up there with losing to everyone who isn't FCS. Hugh is building a winner, but dang, I'm soooo tired boss. UGA and Bama being untouchable doesn't make it any better (Bama for my whole adult life). Lmk when we don't suck. Until then, I'll stick to obscure sports like women's soccer and golf that we win at.

[@stephen4763]

“Vastly superior”? Hmmmm not sure about that. But If that’s true, Auburn is in a deeper hole than I thought. But I hear this a lot. “We played bad. Or We suck”. Saban said that a lot. Never gave the opposing team credit for playing good. It’s just, “we played bad”. Just maybe the other team had something to do with you playing bad? I can say that both ways. Both defenses played lights out.

[@bferg_au4788]

@@stephen4763 with 13+ minutes fewer in TOP, Auburn out gained Arkansas 431-334. Additionally, Auburn's 3rd and long defense was worse than 50% which includes a couple of penalties to extend drives which are extremely self-inflicted. 5 giveaways is tough to overcome. I would not say Arkansas defense was lights out, nor was auburns. But 7.1 yards per play vs 4 yards per play is a decent indicator of disparity. In any case, both teams are bad. That much is clear.

[@stephen4763]

@@bferg_au4788 Well yes we ain’t at the top of the heap. We had over 630 yards of O against Okie State and lost that one. A lot of the Hog fans are crying with a 3-1 record. We ain’t seen a 3-1 record in years. I say be thankful for 3-1. But they still bitch. Yeah I would have loved to get Gus but we missed that opportunity.

[@bferg_au4788]

@@stephen4763 Just think. You could have had him, won 8-9 games per year and competed for championships, then fired him. Football is pain--just gotta watch women's soccer and wait for basketball season. I'm pretty sure Auburn is like 0-7 in its last 7 vs D1 opponents, soooooo YIKES.

[@timebomb42]

7:48 ...... Not only is this what it's like to be an Auburn fan, this is the exact words you can use to describe being a Nebraska fan.

[@chrisford6081]

As an Auburn fan this is 💯% accurate. We weren’t winning anything of substance this yr anyways. But I bet Hugh won’t ever trust sketchy qbs going forward.

[@blakerichardson1465]

You do realize Hugh personally selected those "sketchy QB's" out of the portal and high school ranks, right? These aren't Harsin players. Hugh is 100% responsible for the current state of Auburn's QB room, from both the personnel there and their failure to develop.

[@chrisford6081]

@@blakerichardson1465 Yes, I do. And if you want to dwell on him picking bad ones, have at it. His biggest mistake was not bringing in another one this yr. That is what I mean by trusting sketchy QBs. He doubled down on his miss evaluation of the room. That is what I’m saying won’t happen again. Maybe he misses on the next qb, who knows. But he will never double down on a sketchy room again.

[@telbon8869]

​@@chrisford6081 Well said!

[@TEAST23]

This is a good take. Can't argue with any of it

[@ctierdialouge]

Recruiting is fine I can agree but recruiting does not mean anything if the coaching sucks.

[@ryansheard8092]

I'm 100% certain you are not in a position to judge coaching. Good or bad. Since you are not part of a coaching staff, you are not able to judge it. This is where fans show their ignorance. Literally, unless one is involved day in and day out with the players, they don't have enough information to judge anything.

[@JB-tl8rj]

Hugh Freeze is a good or at least decent gameday coach, he almost knocked off Nick Saban in his first year down there, Auburn will get right eventually. That being said, they should fire DJ Durkin becuase he sucks

[@blakerichardson1465]

@@ryansheard8092 Auburn lost to Cal and Arkansas- at home- two teams they have a very real and very distinct talent advantage over- and they lost those games looking completely unprepared to do the things needed to win a football game against an outmatched opponent. That is an undeniable and unavoidable result of poor coaching and poor preparation Sun-Fri. It doesn't take being in the locker room or being part of the staff day-to-day to see that, and presuming you do shows its own special level of ignorance. Now, if you want to talk about someone questioning the effort and commitment of the coaches without any knowledge of the inner working of the program, that's a different story. But the repeated results that play out on the field on Saturday afternoons clearly show- whether they are giving their best effort or not- they are doing a poor job as coaches.

[@blakerichardson1465]

@@JB-tl8rj Harsin also almost knocked off Nick Saban in his first year, and he did it with a hurt, backup QB. Coming close in a rivalry game at home in your first year isn't exactly the bench mark Auburn needs to use to determine how good or bad a hire is.

[@PrenticeJones-fh2ew]

How bad pf a troll are you trying to be? ​@@JB-tl8rj

[@porkchop1879]

As an Auburn fan is it to much to ask for competent QB play in the base offense?

[@pieswimmer1]

As an Arkansas fan I have the same question

[@ccpbux]

Freeze is not as good of a coach as Malzhan. Should have kept Gus , honestly. With Texas and OU in the SEC, most years Auburn will finish anywhere between 6-6 and 8-4. Extremely down years around 4-8 and a very good year around 9-3. Too many well coached teams in the SEC for them to achieve elite staus!

[@JayFox-nz1dd]

Thoughts: At least a couple of those picks were tipped balls. The WRs need to CATCH the ball when it hits them in the hands. Is Freeze really recruiting the right players? If Freeze wants to beat UGA and Bama he needs to recruit the players they recruit. I don't see that happening.

[@mikealdred5168]

Thx Josh. Good take on Auburn. WDE. We have our own path I guess.

[@philipwillingham6789]

Great point Josh...

[@joshuawhite7515]

Arkansas is a good team. We (vols) have to play them next week in Fayetteville, and we are just as worried about this game as we are Oklahoma, bama, Florida, or georgia. I'm serious.

[@boddaboom77]

I love how everyone plays that clip and leaves the very next sentence off. "We have to coach em better."

[@samuelskipper8206]

Long time Late Kick fan here; do you think play calling and talent should at least win with Arkansas and Cal at home? My only hope in the coaching staff right now is your insights.

[@wendywilliamson7932]

Well said!!

[@karensteed4658]

THANK YOU !!!! Josh HUGH WAS RIGHT !!!!

[@PrestonWicker-i6p]

Way to talk more about the winners, Josh!

[@yourfavoritelawnguy2722]

If these kids can get paid tens or hundreds of thousands a year to play college now, they can take blame for their actions.

[@timcarp1964]

Hugh is right, but why doesn't he see this in practice? Some of these kids are millionaires so if you can't take the heat, turn back in your NIL money.

[@brors64]

Auburn will be okay with 8 losses as long as they save all their effort and plays for Bama. Pathetic.

[@choccolocco]

Personally, I believe auburn has a recruiting issue, whether it be the talent scouts, or just the coaches inability to judge character. Often these kids that are stars in high school get to the next level and can’t handle suddenly becoming “average” among their peers, that’s where character comes into play.

[@DA-oq9dz]

It took a few years for Saban to bring Bama out of the cesspool that Shula left the program in. I have faith in Freeze; however, 5 turnovers per loss is pretty hard to live with in the short term.

[@monkeyattackedmyass5435]

Bama was back in year 2 under Saban. Also, the program was on probation during the Shula years, he wasn't a bad coach, he just wasn't great. Freeze has thus far botched it. He definitely should have gotten a QB from the portal. They would still have issues, but at least they wouldn't have the fiasco they have now at QB.

[@bigjmountaindawgcanna]

As a Mena Arkansas Razorback fan I will say this . That was like no auburn football team I have ever seen. Complete lack of motivation from the head coach. Bring back punishment sprints like we had at Mena high school. Remember the titans style. Get a flag, jump offsides, throw an interception , or get a technical you will run a mile for each one. The captain goes down with his ship. Great content sir, as a hog fan. I hope we can put it together. Usually if we have a QB we don't have a kicker or vice versa. However this year we have neither. Piling up the extra blood pressure meds for next weekend.

[@telbon8869]

@bigjmountaindawgcan... Agree. When you fumble, throw interceptions, get undisciplined penalties, etc., RUN SPRINTS AND STAIRS!!! These kids today are coddled too much.

[@JRC_86]

Arkansas won the game so why are you going on and on about Auburn?

[@cooperhd4550]

Right he’s making it sound like Arkansas didn’t do anything and it was only what auburn did and didnt do

[@johnbland4405]

@@cooperhd4550As a hog fan it’s gonna be real funny if Arkansas actually decides to run the table in the SEC this year. They are not getting enough credit for a team that SHOULD be undefeated and ranked in the top 20 right now. If they beat A&M, that night game in Fayetteville is gonna be electric. Vols fans should know it won’t be an easy game at all.

[@damianw631]

Q: If a players goes to a team excepts money then changes their mind and goes to another team how does that work? Do they give money back or is it even allowed

[@AnthonyJ504]

Kaden Procter did that very thing when he transferred to Iowa for 2 months then went back to Alabama. As far as I heard he kept the money from Iowa.

[@shaunkerr8721]

"The only way it gets messed up is internal toxicity" Whelp, game over, Barners...

[@temarcussmith6836]

Huge Freeze is right good luck on keeping those recruits. Yes they get paid to play now no excuses for that kind of football.

[@BB-sc1jv]

Karma,,, the relationship between a person's mental or physical action and the consequences following that action.

[@telbon8869]

BB-sc1jv But EVERYONE- INCLUDING YOU-is imperfect and subject to Karma. NONE is good!

[@BB-sc1jv]

@@telbon8869 I simply gave a definition of karma, didn't name anyone. Seems you filled in the blanks with the actions of someone that you think is facing consequences for prior actions. I'll admit, it was an easy fill in the blank.

[@telbon8869]

​@@BB-sc1jv Come on, stop with your passive-aggressive b.s.! It was clear who and what you were insinuating. As I pointed out, ALL of us are imperfect (although you apparently think you are a saint)! Borrow a Bible from someone and look up the verse about poi nting out the speck in someone else's eye while you have a beam in yours.

[@blaircoker4137]

Friend, What is your assessment of a bad team getting worse--regressing. Is that an expectation one should have for poor coaching, when the talent does improve from one year to the next?

[@auburn1306]

4:21 - especially the head coach! Sad times.. 8:20 - Fire the stain on the University. Please!

[@Hogwild9erguy]

They stop being kids when they get their first paycheck

[@litedawg]

Its that simple.

[@RichardCChandler]

The part of the presser that got me was his claim that Auburn was a far superior team and should beat Arkansas nine times out of nine. You gotta be kidding me. Arkansas is the better team by a decent amount and would win 7 of those 9 games.

[@dakings9275]

Unfortunately as bad as both teams are... one of them will create chaos in the SEC.. because the SEC is beautiful.

[@editnosmirc4489]

Gus Malzhan was somewhere laughing and still enjoying his buy out 😂

[@ReedRichardson-w8r]

This year reminds me of 2012. Do you remember what happened in 2013. Gus didn't recruit very well. Harson didn't recruit at all. Cupboard is there fore bare. I already knew this was coming. Rebuilding for the future. It pains me to see Auburn doing so bad, but they'll be back. WDE!

[@noone1704]

Freeze said he ain't paying a million for a QB in the portal and now he's crying over the guys he chose. I wouldn't want to hear it if I was an Auburn fan. How much does he make?

[@briangreen256]

I'm not a Freeze fan but he told the truth about it.

[@davidwilliams2722]

I'm sick of hearing about recruiting. How many top ten classes did Jimbo Fisher have, and where is now? New Flash: Losing games in year 2 at home that you won in year 1 on the road isn't progress.

[@willscarborough9089]

I think the issue is you likely could have gotten the Vandy QB out of the portal or someone who could at least provide competition. Right now you have Thorne and 2 extremely young guys. You can’t tell me someone out there who wouldn’t have cost a million dollars couldn’t have provided at least real competition to Thorne.

[@telbon8869]

@willscarborough9089 Exactly. I've been "screaming" for almost a year for Freeze to get Diego Pavia out of the portal. He showed what he could do when he beat us last year. Prediction: to add insult to injury, Pavia will likely lead Vandy to beat Auburn on Nov.2.

[@daddygreenjeans7899]

Money is ruining football

[@telbon8869]

​@@daddygreenjeans7899 Exactly

[@telbon8869]

​@@daddygreenjeans7899 NIL IS RUINING COLLEGE FOOTBALL. THE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY INVOLVED IS ABSURD !! Btw, did you get your name from Mr. Greenjeans on the old Captain Kangaroo show?

[@daddygreenjeans7899]

@@telbon8869 lol nah I seen a movie called bong water one time and the dealer in the movie was daddy green jeans and I was like damn that's a cool nick name so I stole it lol

[@jakepadgett5569]

The problem is that freeze chose these players that are throwing interceptions and fumbling. He chose Thorne not once not twice but 3 times. He chose these receivers and d line. Choose better players if you don’t like what they are doing.

[@jimmyanthony6557]

What are your thoughts on Freeze saying if Auburn plays Arkansas 9 more times they win all 9?

[@andrewmueller9986]

Look at that rest of their schedule. The way they are now they are only a fav in 1 or 2 games.

[@monkeyglocks]

Actually dissent here at LSU is a bit of a problem rn. If I’m understanding you right. I don’t mind criticism of the team but I can’t stand when ppl just cry and cry and act like they would take the program to the CFP their first season at head coach 😂

[@charlesclayton7815]

Woo Pig Sooie!

[@BrandonResells]

counting Arkansas out is wild

[@garydowning7360]

AU qbs cant read the field in real time,, some of those drops are inexcusable ,as are the fumbles , Defensively, the 3 down linemen, has not worked and will not work.. , the rpo should be deadly with players ..

[@StoryConsultant]

It wasn't just what he said that was unfortunate. It was the way he said it. He criticized those players with red-faced anger on nationwide television. Those boys are young adults doing the best they know how, playing their hearts out so that their families will be proud and their coach can continue living his multi-million-dollar lifestyle. If it was necessary for him to say what he said, he should have spoken calmly in a private meeting with the players. I don't think Freeze is capable of doing that.

[@calnoble4651]

He is wrong for saying it. If he was a real leader it is I or we. Kirby nor Saban would ever say that. You also aren’t the Auburn coach Josh so your default position doesn’t matter. He went with Thorne and then threw him under the bus for being what he is

[@donaldanemaet1353]

I agree with you JP

[@conradlunsford]

Freeze doesn’t have the culture to win at a high level consistently. Seen it firsthand. He’ll pull a big win here and there but I just can’t see it working out long term there. He’s a fine coach but not big time

[@t.k.1319]

A whole lot of people in these comments seem to believe everyone on the Auburn roster is getting huge NIL money. Only a small handful of them are making anything worth writing home about. Most are getting a few thousand dollars, which would basically amount to what corporate interns get paid, if they worked that internship the whole year. Also, a lot of them are barely making minimum wage, when all the hours of work are taken into consideration.

[@rooksbaby4169]

Auburn did'nt wanna pay Riley what amount of money he wanted bc they didn't think he was worth it. But I also don't see us Auburn fans paying 3 million for a qb like nico at Tennessee.

[@terrell1266]

I don’t get it, these kids aren’t amateurs anymore their getting paid, literally making decisions on where they’re going to school based off of how much money they’ll make but their coach can’t hold them accountable? You can argue maybe not in public but I’m over the “their just kids” their making grown folks money now, that comes with grown up criticism.

[@glennvanzandt3011]

I grant you that Auburn is a bad team. However, if I was an Auburn fan, here's what would trouble me. Auburn is a poorly coached team I mean I've watched bad inferior teams during my 65 years. Yet, I've often watched bad inferior bad teams that were well coached. They just played a better team. For whatever reason, Auburn is a poorly coached team.

[@WonderboyWDE]

Pate, I like you and am a fan. BUT…you just snagged my love and adoration simply because you quoted Jim Ross, the greatest to ever grab a microphone and put on a cowboy hat ringside! I know he’ll never admit to thinking he’s the greatest but we as fans will say it for him. He’s a bit better than Gordon Solie and Bobby “The Brain” Henan.

[@heathburlison3016]

Also beginning to wonder if anyone knows what world we are currently in. “He will build a winner” brother we are in the age of the portal. You think if Auburn goes 3-9 the Cam Coleman’s, Perry Thompsons, and the Lee’s of the world are going to stay here to build anything? No lol they are not.

[@scootertrash911]

As a Bama fan, this level of play is a let down to the entire State of Alabama

[@heathburlison3016]

@@scootertrash911 how do you think we feel? It’s embarrassing. This team is way too talented to lose to damn Cal and Arkansas. Atleast with Gus we could count on 8-4 or so.

[@neilmcinnis7200]

If Auburn would've spent 3.5 mil on a QB (like TN) they wouldn't have these issues.. They need to spend more on their roster. Period.

[@wingates8399]

Now you can throw into the mix that Freeze has stated that if Auburn and Arkansas played 9 more times, Auburn would win all 9 times, because Arkansas got lucky thanks to Auburn beating themselves! Talk about sour grapes! 😂

[@aaronclifton9905]

How can Arkansas not be a premier destination for a super deep rich NIL offering? Tyson, Walmart, the Dallas Cowboys guy. It makes no sense.

[@darronwilliams4641]

They dont give arkansas as much as ppl think

[@Bigmike06078]

I just hope this class doesn’t fall apart wde

[@briangreen256]

8-4 to 9-3 and beating their rival every few years is acceptable at Auburn. It's always been like that.

[@157performance]

OU’s defense is going to have a field day playing against Auburn.

[@davidglenn2739]

Speaking of bad QB's, Green needs to go to passers camp, which, from what I understand, Boise fans tried to warn us...

[@ronniemoore2756]

Cut it out JP, that dude is truly overrated, he's living off 2 lucky wins against Nick Saban and that's it

[@kishanpatel5275]

Damn you salty. He still making a living off it so 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@hudsonstovall8119]

@@kishanpatel5275 He then uses that living to buy hookers

[@JoshPateCFB]

What is he rated?

[@ruckanitepreacher5618]

Tickles me to death to see the Auburn fans have to eat a little humility because little Arkansas came in and beat them! Y'all don't attempt to hide your supposed superiority. Nothing personal of course i actually root for auburn most of the time but it is sweet..

[@telbon8869]

@ruckanitepreacher5618 You are out of your mind! Auburn fans DON'T act with an attitude of superiority. Quite the oppositite. Au fans are among the most humble out there. All the superiority and arrogance are owned by Bama. And I don't believe for a second that you EVER pull for Auburn!

[@jon-michaelharris5840]

Asking Auburn to not be toxic? Lol

[@yellowhammer44]

If Auburn had a QB, I don't think they would be bad

[@michaelbledsoe87]

Go HOGS!

[@patrickconnolly8320]

I would love to dicuss why you think Freeze is the right guy. I firmly believe he is not the correct coach!! Players ARE evaluated on their individual play!!

[@stephen4763]

Yes and no. Individuals don’t win games. Teams do. Gotta play as a team. You can have star talent but play as a team. Individual stuff gets you beat.

[@270eman]

Hugh always puts it on himself and the staff at the beginning of every press conference. They always take him out of context and try to make him look awful bringing up the past. Players need to be accountable for their failures and they had lots of them. I agree that we just need to accept it as a blown year and not hate and go after the coach or the program. If we win some games cool. If we don't we don't. Auburn can't keep firing and trying to rebuild every 2 years. Let them work and see what happens.

[@christhornton8219]

Well said, Josh! But, us Auburn fans can be a little hyperbolic. :) It's gotten worse after the success of Bama and UGA. WE need to stay the course here. Trust the process. And temper expectations for another year or so.

[@paulwhite5840]

Hugh later said they'd beat the Hogs 9 of 10. I doubt that.

[@ziff_1]

Whether or not Hugh Freeze is "right" or not isn't the point, I don't think, when it comes to his comments. Recruits are going to see those clips and think "he threw his guys under the bus". It has already stirred up quite a bit of bad press. Former players also don't have good things to say about him.

[@austindailey8746]

Auburn loses to OU 50-3. Auburn will not win another game. Idk why people trust freeze. Thorne is trash. Always has been and always will be. Freeze is not a good coach and this staff can not develop players.

[@SS11660]

He is responsible for developing these players instead of blaming.

[@garynouban6453]

JP way too soft on Auburn. Freeze has his team playing WORSE than they did a year ago. That recruiting class will evaporate like Napier's did last season. Interested to see his thoughts on Bo Wallace's tweets about Hugh.

[@jacksonjackson3431]

I hate it. Once again here we are. War Eagle anyways!

[@leegaesswitz181]

Maybe Arkansas and Auburn fans aren’t that different lol this is literally us every week.

[@telbon8869]

​@@leegaesswitz181 Ark & Au fans ARE very similar, and there are MANY connections between the 2 schools.

[@paulmason9186]

Yall have beat this to death! He is down and you're kicking him harder. He said what he said. Kids no these are grown ass men! They screwed up as much as him. If ya can't handle it get out!

[@JoshPateCFB]

Who is y’all?

[@safespacebear]

Freeze wasnt wrong to say it but Auburn fans are starting on the case to get rid of him. When a coach isnt wanted everything he does will be viewed in the worst light

[@robertledbetter1983]

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