Notre Dame Beats USC - Josh Pate Rapid Reaction (Late Kick Cut)

[@guineapigclips5205]

Al golden coached circles around Lincoln riley. Absolutely dominant defensive performance

[@erictomal3226]

100%

[@shadowdawg04]

That defense was seriously ready for this game - props to the coaches too!

[@JusCuz410]

If DC Al Golden can focus on fundamentals during the offseason, they can go from a solid defense to a great defense.

[@Nite2012Mare]

They have been AWESOME all year minus Louisville 👍

[@trenton7]

Southern Cal finally played a team with a defense

[@alexott8258]

It was amazing to see Lincoln Riley get run out of the building. At OU, he had a turn key program HANDED to him. Now he actually has to do the work himself.

[@rodneyginokc]

As a Texas fan....I can say...BIG TRUE here. F Riley...his grin...and his brisket.

[@mynumberoneguy]

His ego told him that we can just outscore every school. Some schools actually scout and come up with a game plan to play lol

[@atlsooner85]

​@rodneyginokc had Riley stayed Texas would of turned the Tide on him since y'all got your shit together now

[@evanprocaccini245]

Such a fun game to be at. The fanbase, team, staff needed it. Still a season of "what-ifs" for ND. I am not too worried about the yardage stats for offense, we had great field position all night. If they had a more efficient offense, who knows where the season ends up. Go Irish!

[@chrishaugh1655]

I don't know why, but it makes me so happy that USC got throttled. They have way too many delusional fans that were claiming a title preseason.

[@C_71]

They're the worst best team this year. Just like people say that Colorado only wins because of Shedeur, SC only wins because of Caleb!

[@photodidact9513]

USC alum - right there with ya. I think we were way overdue for a loss and I desperately wanted to see us lose a rivalry game. Any good championship caliber team has a strong defense + O-line and we currently have one QB trying to do way too much. Gonna have to rebuild the entire team from the ground up like Hackett/Carroll.

[@VincesInHocSigno]

Louisville was much better than expected, Duke was harder than expected, and Louisville was right on the midst of midterms at ND. Kind of a perfect storm.

[@tylerlogan833]

OU fans tried to warn USC fans about this but we got accused of just being bitter lol.

[@anthonyjames4319]

Right when I said he was bringing Grinch with him my joy was turned to sadness lol.

[@evan1788]

Notre dame fan we have been trying to warn lsu fans but we’re told the same 😂

[@BCEFilms]

Nice to see someone finally mentioning the mental toll playing four straight ranked opponents on a prime time setting will do to a college athlete. Plus, that was ND’s 8th straight game without a break. Al Golden had this defense prepared to run through a brick wall, and boy did they do that and then some. A great win to head into the bye week, the rest should help them recuperate and get healthy. Tough game looming in Death Valley against Clemson, but this team has the makings to finish the regular season with 10 wins.

[@diggingmystyle]

The most amazing thing I watched was the punter catching up with Branch and tackled him. That, my friend, is an athlete at punter position.

[@JarrettBarker]

It annoys me that it took a loss to Louisville to wake them up

[@TechPanther7]

That’s not what happened. They played 4 straight ranked opponents. It’s tough to win 2 out of 4 of those matchups. No team can get up for every one of those games back to back to back to back lol.

[@victoriatrainer6309]

They really should have had their bye week between Duke and Louisville

[@mikebronicki8264]

What annoys me is that Louisville and ND both have byes this week, which means they could have moved the game back 2 weeks.

[@dashx1103]

I don't think that is it. Pate nailed it. Listen again.

[@TechPanther7]

@@victoriatrainer6309 Duke and Louisville were supposed to be easier wins. No one expected them to be undefeated and on the uprise when they made the schedule years ago lol

[@CalebAlucardtheHagan]

To me, Riley and Brian Kelly fit into that very special tier of coach where they will consistently get you a good to great team, but they will always fall short and there will always be a clear difference between them and the ones that end the season with a natty. Mark Richt was the same way. Call it a lack of talent, deficiencies on one side of the ball, whatever. It'll always be that way and it's the worst form of torture--Sisyphus-esque--I could imagine as a fan.

[@michaelkraus4135]

BINGO ! Richt even did his own grocery shopping ,but could never learn to COOK . Kelly is an arrogant lazy Irish man .

[@subestimado2128]

Lincoln is fool’s gold. He only made the playoffs when he had Bob Stoops’ recruits.

[@voiceofreason2674]

Well he can still get great recruits but it's an issue that he doesn't coach the defense at all. Doesn't know scheme or how to teach fundamentals or have an eye for talent. Kinda like Sean Payton in Denver

[@tytydinguy]

it’s schematics at the end of the day, he recruits at a high level and no matter what always has the best qb in the country and at the very least his qb is top 3 every season

[@dietadam2295]

I think you mean Stoops's players. Lincoln can recruit decently well. But Bob's players were tough and disciplined. Lincoln only made the playoffs while some of those players of Bob's were on the roster. As they left, he got statistically worse and worse. He had Strength coaches literally quitting mid season due to Lincoln's culture of leniency, which is something Bob never allowed.

[@robbie192]

Do any of you guys watch football?

[@melroze]

@@dietadam2295 Lincoln recruits well, but his highly rated recruits are on the offense side. He's more OC than HC.

[@jacobwatson9289]

They also had midterms the week of the Louisville game. I knew they’d lose too after the draining previous 2 weeks. As a ND fan you are correct. I do think ND wins out

[@jamescampbell9533]

If Bob Stoops hadn’t promoted his brother, and BV stayed at OU as DC, and Riley ran the offense, the Sooners would STILL be on a winning streak that would never be eclipsed. Nepotism doesn’t work.

[@buildingbread]

THIS

[@jimdennis5832]

Yep. Bob created a cavalier acceptance of “let’s focus on winning the conference” among fans. After all, just getting to the playoff is amazing. Problem was, die-hard OU fans had already come to expect actually winning in playoff games; he had reinforced that expectation in his second year. Switzer coached OU for 16 years, and won three national titles; Bob coached longer, and managed just one. Bob’s post-season win record was 0.500. Mediocrity was the standard. Yes, we won conference titles, but OU once was a dominating power house. With Bob’s retirement, Lincoln took over and continued the “conference champion” target. Even Stoops, a defensive coach, failed to strengthen the defense; air raid competition (we will simply outscore everyone) became the formula, and defense was allowed to slip. Nepotism pushed Venables into leaving and the Stoops brain trust couldn’t field a decent defense. OU ultimately faced mutiny among its on-field defense, who clearly understood they knew more about running defense than the coaches. OU fans understood Venables’ return would bring defensive dominance to OU again. Switzer taught us that DEFENSE wins games; if the opposition cannot score, they cannot win. Looking forward to the return of the days of “hang half a hundred on ‘em, and go home with a win.”

[@treydarr977]

There are not enough positive words in the english language to properly label this statement.

[@saraho8540]

There is not enough money in college football to pay for Stoops, Riley, and Venables as coaches at the same time on 1 team. But that would be a national championship package.

[@Floppyearsmomma]

@@jimdennis5832 you are absolutely correct! I grew up watching the Selmon brothers, Scotty Hill, and Zac Henderson. And Stoops championship team? No TDs during the championship game. A two point safety.

[@zirconnnn]

Love the content brother, my dad recommended me your channel and I appreciate all you do. Glad I understand CFG a lot better than I did before thanks to you.

[@jaysmith7725]

Lincoln. Riley is an average coach who does not believe in defense with a joke.

[@chrichri6793]

the defense didn't play that bad. Offense turned the ball over

[@CallSignWhiplash]

Caleb and his dad looking at this OU team asking themselves what if he had stayed? Karma comes for us all.

[@maizewindu.4827]

hehehe ya reap what u sow. Ou is better off without his self centered attitude. Just look how he carries himself when he loses, bro runs to the locker room without shaking hands 😭 bro a bitch just like his coach

[@gs7585]

ND DC deserves a raise after that game. Handed SC their asses.

[@jordanh806]

People have failed to mention for years that OU lost that UGA game back in 2017 because of bad special teams. The defense of course was terrible, but they swibb kicked with 11 seconds left and gave UGA 3 points and had a FG blocked in OT which lost them that game. Bad special teams and bad defense is what Lincoln has always put on the field.

[@eduardoolivas5027]

yup, most of it was masked with Seibert and Brkic

[@Gutslinger]

Bad special teams? That squib kick was an illogical decision made by the coach. Quit giving Riley a pass on that, and trying to blame his loss on the special teams when that was clearly his decision.

[@phillipbrown9730]

@@Gutslinger I told my wife in real time ...that dumba$$ kick decision is going to come back and haunt OU.

[@church348]

the special teams blunders may have been the dagger, but that dagger would have never been in that position if their defense wasn't so god awful

[@buddyryeSE]

I love the content and your videography crew needs some props. The grayed-out content as reference is just beautiful.

[@TheBenzwanger]

Lincoln Riley coached teams have fundamental flaws from the top down. Refusing to practice the fundamentals and physicality you fall every year, no matter how good a QB you have. Lincoln refuses to allow anyway to watch his practice.....hmmmm I wonder why. Cuz they playing grabass the entire time. No special teans coach, basically no defensive coach, and the guy running it all is a QB coach. What could go wrong?? Lol

[@robertthompson5318]

Notre Dame my favorite bet along with Ohio State easy easy money.

[@Plants28]

Yesss and I bet my browns would win just for fun too

[@charlessimons2027]

Here is a stat line for you for ranked games in which Caleb has played and Lincoln Riley has coached. (OU&USC)They are 4-6 against ranked teams. Top 10 wins 0-1, teams ranked 11-25 (4-5). Now they have to go through the gauntlet of Washington, Utah, Oregon, and USC. The first half of the season was a cake walk compared to this.

[@timx9661]

They should take the votes away from the writers who ranked SC 6th after getting blown out by Utah and then giving up 48 in a loss to Tulane to close out the season.

[@C_71]

I agree with you, but that's not how they get ranked! It's the 4 and 5 star recruits that give them that ranking! They give Deion Sanders shit for the same thing that Lincoln did last season! Your assessment is correct because they were in the same position last season! Everyone swore that they'd be in the playoffs, but then came Utah! Even tho it's wasn't a blowout... they lost to Tulane in a bowl game period!

[@Gutslinger]

They should take away votes from that female who last week still voted Texas ahead of OU, because as she put it, she still thinks Texas is a better team and OU didn't beat them convincingly by more than 3 points... OU beat them by 4. Also the voters whom made it to where OU moved up to 5 after beating 3rd ranked Texas, but when 8 ranked Washington narrowly beats 7th ranked Oregon, they leapfrog OU and become ranked 5th and move OU down to 6th. There's no logical consistency in that.

[@jerrymcdowell2306]

John McKay " with 18 too 22 year olds you never have the same team 2 weeks in a row "

[@R_Riley]

This game shows the defense is much improved but the offense needs a new wide receiver coach and offensive coordinator and a new special team coach. Notre Dame should bring in Paul Chryst or Kliff Kingsbury OC and Emmet Jones as WR coach. Levar woods as special teams coach would would mesh well with Freeman being an ex LB. Marcus Freeman needs an ex head coach for the offense and Defense so Freeman can focus on player development and building a national championship team. I believe Freeman has a better shot than Kelly but needs to adjust his staff in the offseason. If Golden leaves for a head coach job Freeman should look at Jim Leonhard Will Muschamp Mike Tressel For DC.

[@royboy9361]

The last month was a four prime time meat grinder for Notre Dame.

[@brickfrog8834]

Oklahoma fans saw it coming Pate. We’ve known since week 10 in 2021 when we were 9-0 but it felt like it could collapse at any moment. Your are NOT what your record says you are and Sooner fans learned that from TBOW the hard way. His methods have major flaws and we don’t miss him!

[@kienancorcoran775]

Exactly

[@jimdennis5832]

Riley plays to simply out-score the opposition. When he encounters a decent defense, the wheels come off. USC will be happy to be a conference contender. At OU, Bob Stoops created the acceptance of “let’s focus on winning the conference” among fans. After all, just getting to the playoff is amazing. Problem was, die-hard OU fans had already come to expect actually winning in playoff games; he had reinforced that expectation in his second year. Switzer coached OU for 16 years, and won three national titles; Bob coached longer, and managed just one. Bob’s post-season win record was 0.500. Mediocrity was the standard. Yes, we won conference titles, but OU once was a dominating power house. With Bob’s retirement, Lincoln took over and continued the “conference champion” target. Even Stoops, a defensive coach, failed to strengthen the defense; air raid competition became the formula, and defense was allowed to slip. Nepotism pushed Venables into leaving and the Stoops brain trust couldn’t field a decent defense. OU ultimately faced mutiny among its on-field defense, who clearly understood they knew more about running defense than the coaches. OU fans understood Venables’ return would bring defensive dominance to OU again. Switzer taught us that DEFENSE wins games; if the opposition cannot score, they cannot win. Looking forward to the return of the days of “hang half a hundred on ‘em, and go home with a win.”

[@mitchmonteith6468]

I wasn't sure if you would be right. I thought USC's offense would keep it close.

[@dietadam2295]

Riley's teams are extremely QB reliant. One bad game or one dud player at the QB position and Riley's teams fail. OU would have lost a lot more games had it not been for the "hero ball" played by Baker, Kyler, Hurts, and Williams. Riley relies on this style of play too much. And once that QB gets remotely slowed down, they lose. He gets away with it against inferior opponents, but he has always struggled against good competition because of it.

[@bender7565]

I thought USC's defense did fine, better than expected. Lincoln really needs some sort of an offensive line. To this day I feel for them, it was the 70's and we were out of 'big' teenagers and a tall CB (fun) got switched to LG, football wasn't fun for me. God bless all offensive lineman even if they aren't very good at it.

[@michaelbardis]

Josh, I knew it was coming. But I've watched every Lincoln Riley coached game for years.

[@treydarr977]

ohio st fans tried to warn us OU fans about grinch and we didn’t listen, OU fans tried to tell usc fans and they didn’t listen.

[@PS3rocks09]

AD really screwed ND with a scheduling this year. But tbf programs like Louisville fluctuate so much that when you schedule that game, you maybe expect it to be easier. And Duke is having its one good football year every like 10 years

[@RonBurgundy209]

I sort of lost faith in Riley when he kept grinch and didn’t hire a special teams coach. Yes, I was excited when SC got him due to the $h!t coaching that went on with Helton, but unless dude stops being so stubborn and grows up as a coach, SC is in for some 8-4 seasons and mid level bowls games.

[@zechariahcameron3645]

I will give you credit. You were right about USC!

[@ndn4203]

On god you been on fire josh. I’m a notre dame fan n I didn’t think we were gonna win

[@testname9121]

Josh, you actually made a mistake: the terminal issues were NOT in the defense (although the defense is bad). The terminal issues were in the OFFENSE. If you had watched the USC games carefully, you would have noticed that ever since the Arizona State game, opposing defenses had figured out how to stop Caleb Williams, and Caleb Williams was our entire offense. However, USC had more talented players than Arizona State, Colorado, and Arizona, so we managed to escape with wins in those three games. This ended with the Notre Dame game; Notre Dame's players are at least as talented as USC's, and perhaps more talented. This will also be the case with the players on the following teams on our schedule: Utah, Washington, Oregon, and UCLA. The problem is that our offense has been COMPLETELY stopped and we have not been able to create new offensive schemes. We managed to survive prior to the Notre Dame game on talent, but that advantage is now gone. Unless Lincoln Riley and Kliff Kingsbury can come up with completely new offensive schemes, we will be a 7-5 team by the end of the season. The die-hard USC fans have noticed this all season and we have been trying to beat this drum; however, it is not clear if the USC coaching staff has heard us or is just incapable of making mid-season corrections (which admittedly is quite difficult). It's going to be a long season. Where you are right is that USC is a hollow and fragile team.

[@craig6363]

If you are from Oklahoma….you knew.

[@ndmmt-wu7kz]

I’m just happy you were right and I was wrong. Our offense is still not great. The defense surprised me. After last year’s game I thought CW had our number.

[@SoOnErSoN2]

Riley also had one of the best O-Line coaches in the game at Oklahoma. One who didn’t go with him to SoCal. 👀

[@tonyhaywood619]

And he had one of the best veteran o lines in the nation last year. Totally different and still-unsettled lineup there. Continuity and chemistry there are critical. OL recruiting has been strong. Development will take time.

[@FrancoDFernando]

It should be noted that ND was in the middle of midterms the week of the Louisville game. ND has historically played pretty badly during midterms week

[@brandonreilly9360]

That and half of the players and coaches had the flu. They sure looked slow and sluggish all night in that Louisville game.

[@edszewczyk]

The fact that it was all Caleb’s fault is not Caleb’s fault. Riley has the offense wholly dependent on Caleb’s escape act & he has done nothing with the defense.

[@RoadTo19]

Overly obvious result and enjoyed watching it! Just as I stated in my comments last week, USC will be exposed in South Bend. This isn't there only loss, they'll end up with 3 maybe 4. Riley is better suited as an OC not HC.

[@Howbouthemdawgs]

How did they convince Bear to leave UGA? WTF!

[@ceddavis]

Never disappoints...

[@tonyhaywood619]

You didn’t nail it. The USC defense played well. Did you predict Caleb throwing 3 INTs?

[@cameronfowler2670]

DILLON GABRIEL IS BETTER THAN CALEB WILIAMS WHEN IT COUNTS

[@garyharrison3417]

If you knew usc would hold ND to 250 yds you'd be thinking they would win by 17 or more. Riley is a good OC but an average HC.

[@agent_JorDi]

I think Lincoln Riley is a good coach, great play caller. But what people think is gonna happen to Oregon in the B1G is actually gonna happen to usc if they don’t get it together up front.

[@voiceofreason2674]

There is going to be some crazy fluke games with the travel distances. They'll prolly win some games just off virtue of being at home

[@C_71]

They will be in the middle of the pack when they get to the B1G next season. I'm not talking about the weather either!

[@agent_JorDi]

@@C_71 😂😂😂 yeah you have no clue what you’re talking about. We’ll see tho. Can’t wait for you to get back to me on this

[@Cornell973-tw4qr]

This is good lol especially around the 3 minute mark

[@christopherdarling5719]

Ya Joel the only thing that counts is the final score you should know that

[@willvettel9875]

Also the drive distance/average start for posetion was much better than USCs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@rosshathaway6112]

As an OU fan I can’t believe all this Riley hate from the national media. That was a slam dunk hire by USC and now not so much. We believed in him for awhile. Really entertaining to see him rolling out the same excuses. The Los Angeles media isn’t having it. He had it easy at Oklahoma.

[@Del-Scent]

I'm so glad he's SC's problem now and no longer OU's. So glad to have BV in Norman .

[@bmcwcm2910]

Be careful beating your chest. Earlier this year you pointed out LR’s winning record and dared anyone to say he’s not a great coach. As an OU fan this jumped out at me and I was shocked. LR was a head coach for 5 years at OU and the winning record was your basis. But if you “scratched the surface” OU digressed further and further from competing for a National Title each year. By the 4th year OU didn’t make the CFPs and the 5th year didn’t even play in the Big 12 championship game. He then departs under the cover of night (literally). His 1st year at USC was a soft schedule and they did not face Oregon or Washington. The one strong program that he did face in the PAC12 was Utah and we all saw how that went. Your advice of looking beyond the record is correct, but a little late when you see your previous stance on Lincoln Riley. With all of this said, I do enjoy your show and will keep watching.

[@robjohnston366]

Regarding ND, they've obviously already been eliminated as one of the four teams in the FBS Playoff Series for this 2023-24 season, but next year and beyond with 12 teams in the series -- I'm guessing that it could maybe eventually even expand to 16 -- they could have two losses and still be considered as one of the at-large teams which would have to win four consecutive games to become champions. Being an indy [their being from Indiana, lol, as well as their being an indie, i.e., an independent] and not playing a set conference schedule will affect them negatively because they cannot be considered as one of the top four as conference champions from the Power 4 which would take the top-four seeds with first-week byes, (these) of whom would have to win three consecutively for the title. Would ND ever trade their wide and varied schedule which includes teams across the nation -- though they seem to be slowly adding more ACC teams, to play a buttoned-down schedule within the ACC or BIG? I don't think they would, besides, their deal with NBC being up after next season, could be pressuring them to keep playing a more national, interesting schedule. However, ND's lobbying for the ACC to include Cal and Stanford, could be indicators that they could be setting themselves up to join the ACC for fb, with their perception that Cal at least is a pushover. They'll keep USC on schedule regardless, and could have the ACC keep Stanford as a perpetual conference opponent, but what would happen to their game with Clemson?

[@AAblade7]

Please do not give USC’s defense props. ND had 4 drives starting in the red zone that limited potential yards. In addition Sam Hartman was barely touched and they were struggling to contain a WR core that needed lacrosse players to fill out. Also I remember you talking about rating Lincoln Riley in the preseason. Does this look like a top 20 coach right now? Still I’ll take your straw man argument. 1. He’s had a lot of early success. Yeah with a team Bob stoops primarily recruited. The more he recruited and established his own culture the more OU fell off. 2. He recruits well. Is it him or the program? OU and USC seem to able to pull in top 10 classes without him based on recent history. More to the point in 2020 after making the playoffs 3 years in a row he couldn’t even pull off a top 10 class at OU. 3. He’s produced 3 heisman winning QBs. How much was that benefit of the system? Imagine if Josh Allen in 2017 had mark Andrew’s to throw to (Lincoln screwed Mark with his offense schemes and cost him spots in the draft). 2018 Kyler Murray benefited from a weak QB class and the Heisman’s panel fear of voting for a defensive lineman like Nick Bosa. Last season Caleb Williams had a far easier schedule and the LA hype machine. The more I watch Caleb the more I realize he has judgment flaws like Baker and Kyler. If he does actually become an all-pro guy then he’s going to have to grow. Michael Penix Jr. is much more polished and ready for the league 4. He’s only 40. Seems like a theme for USC. Lane Kiffin was just as young. Steve Sarkisian was what 42? Lane hasn’t figured it out and the jury is still out in Steve. Also they are close to 50 now. 5. Does he develop well? Considering most of his pro-bowl draft picks played a lot under Bob stoops, not really. Right now I’d rate him a little over Lane Kiffin due to acalades. Of course Lane didn’t get gift wrapped a program like Riley did OU so who knows.

[@ronaldslater4703]

Lincoln Riley and defense is like oil and water...they just don't mix!

[@obsidian00]

They really don't...what good is it to be a QB "Guru" when you don't understand the fundamentals of "Defense"???

[@jasonsettles4514]

Great win for OSU.

[@chrisowen3264]

This game is the epitome of why this program is so frustrating. The talent is mostly there but the consistency lacks. This team is good enough to be 12-0 this year but no one will be surprised if they end up 8-4.

[@jordanhickey9785]

As a USC fan, we’re a softer Ohio st. Everything goes back to line of scrimmage, and toughness. Lincoln Riley believes in just our scoring everyone. Not a good recipe for success

[@OrphiusMohammad]

That loss is on Lincoln Riely. You can call it Offensive line issue or Running game issue or QB issue; but Lincoln Riely is to blame. The situation was same @ Oklahoma. When Lincoln Offence was in trouble (recall OU vs Kansas?) Caleb bailed him out. Check USC games this year vs Arizona, Colorado .... same narrative. Offence got stuck and Caleb bailed him out. Without Caleb, his offense is as disaster as his defense. Same thing happened in Oklahoma. He got big time QBs in Oklahoma (Baker, Kyler, Jalen, and Caleb) to bailed him out. He also had Spencer Rattler and unfortunately didn't do much for him as Spencer was not like Caleb. And @ South Bend Caleb got out of Gas. By the way Lincoln Riely never cares about Special Team either. Lincoln is a great Offensive Coordinator - probably one of the best in the nation but as a Head Coach he is a complete disaster. His flashy offence covers his Head Coaching issue to some extent but at some point, it gets out of hand. He doesn't know winning games ugly. He doesn't know grinding. Flashy offense doesn't keep up all the time specially Infront of gritty defense. USC vs ND score would be uglier if ND had a moderate offence.

[@ce6277]

Lincoln’s window has closed. Defenses have figured out his gimmicks. Even if he gets a defense in a few years, the offense will become average

[@Swampdonkey796]

At this point Lincoln probably doesn’t even consider defense to be part of the game. If he did his teams wouldn’t be the same year after year

[@chrichri6793]

the defense played way better than the offense. you should watch the game actually.

[@Swampdonkey796]

@@chrichri6793 yeah giving up 40 points and getting blown out is definitely the defense playing better. You must be new to football

[@chrichri6793]

@@Swampdonkey796 Notre Dame scored 40 because of field position on USC turnovers & special teams. USC's defense did not play bad, it was the offense that played like dogsh*t. I don't look at the box scores of games like you do. I watch the actual game. Anyone with a brain that watched the actual game would tell you that it was USC's offense was the problem. So what it is, are you dumb or did you just not watch the game???? 🤣🤣

[@Swampdonkey796]

@@chrichri6793 I’m not deleting my comment cause I can take an L like a man but yeah you’re right about this game. Defense was actually pretty good for once

[@chrichri6793]

@@Swampdonkey796 I definitely respect that. I was probably a little harsh in my comment lol. I am just a disappointed USC fan that is coming to terms with the fact that we aren't the National contender we thought we would be. USC fans are just tired of soft football & we wasted a generational talent at QB. So I apologize for being a d*ck lol

[@christopherdarling5719]

Notre Dame will never play in the Pop Tarts bowl when Holtz was offered a minor bowl mid 90s Holtz responded ND doesn’t go to minor bowls

[@Floppyearsmomma]

Um, OU fans knew this. We understand that just like the Big 12 that basically lives and dies by the West Coast offense, you're likely to get your aspirins kicked by anybody who can play some defense. And they are so poorly coached. I mean USC kick return players grabbed Arizona's return guy and tried to drag him several feet to the ball. I do believe there is some proof in records. It just depends on who teams lose to. USC lost three games last year. That means something. They have played so poorly this year that even though they were undefeated they kept going down in the polls every week. If USC played someone from the SEC or the Big 10, they would get blown out! I remember when we got a defensive coordinator from the PAC. I couldn't believe it! Why would you get a defensive coordinator from the PAC? People have said it and said it. Defense wins championships.

[@jasonmoehl6994]

USC DC Alex Grinch was criticized at OU as well - probably time to move on from Grinch

[@Nite2012Mare]

I knew it was coming...I expected 60-20 GO IRISH! 👍👍

[@bkmason57]

I have called pretty much every game right since HC LR got here - even the Tulane upset. I called this a USC loss in August. Expect 3 or 4 more losses down the stretch unless the Trojans, as gunnery sergeant Hartman said, un-fuck themselves and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks.

[@tycardwell2991]

Lincoln Riley’s complete lack of effort on adapting or learning special teams or defense has left him incapable of leading a team to a conference title. He’s not recruiting at the same level anymore, and the bad stigma he has defensively has attached itself to him not just his d-coordinator. Once Caleb leaves and they join the Big 10 he’ll have 2-3 seasons and USC will be done with him. Unless he hires an amazing defensive coordinator

[@anthonyjames4319]

Lincoln Riley would be a good OC.

[@tonyhaywood619]

The defense outplayed the offense. Pate didn’t tell you that because he didn’t foresee it. No one did.

[@34thoover]

I didn't know it was coming lol

[@tonyhaywood619]

Not done losing in the conference? They haven’t begun losing in the conference.

[@ctclardy]

Most people in California yearn to be celebrities, even when it's obvious that they will never be... this is what USC is hyped as... a celebrity that ain't.

[@quincyjefferson5878]

More of the same on the way for USC. The competition only gets stiffer. The Caleb narrative is about to get nasty. Trending towards qb3.

[@robertlorg5682]

I knew

[@williamwaldrop6684]

Does it matter

[@lakengilbert3299]

Lincoln Riley just doesn’t seem to care about cultivating a complete team. Yes, it is an offensive game nowadays but his defenses are consistently so bad that it doesn’t allow him to compete with even just good teams like Notre Dame. His best bet is to just hire a quality defensive staff and let them control it completely because I don’t believe he knows how to coach a defense. As for Notre Dame, while this was a good win for them, they haven’t shown that they can consistently win games. It’s nice to beat top 10 teams but if you’re still losing to Louisville and Marshall then you’ll never win anything.

[@TechPanther7]

ND played 4 straight ranked opponents.. they’re not inconsistent lol it’s insanely tough to get up for 4 straight superbowls. Any team would be glad to go 2-4 in those matchups.

[@lakengilbert3299]

@@TechPanther7 SEC teams do that year in and year out. If you want to be a true contender, you need to be able to run through a gauntlet.

[@exomake_mehorololo]

​@@lakengilbert3299as an SEC fan you know that's not actually true. Some SEC teams regularly have the toughest schedules like Auburn, Florida, South Carolina... Arkansas usually whereas Georgia or Bama usually don't. LSUs hasn't been too bad either. And the tough schedule for the other teams always results in them having multiple losses and never catching a break. Which SEC team has played 4 consecutive games against 4 undefeated top 20 teams?

[@lakengilbert3299]

@@exomake_mehorololo actually it is true. The idea that Bama has/had an easy schedule is a myth. They were just better than everyone else. While teams like Florida, SoCar, mizzou, and Arkansas were worse than everyone else. I mean it’s sorta convenient that you chose some of the worst teams in the SEC for your example. LSU played 7 top 10 teams in 2019. They beat all of them. SEC teams play 5 or 6 straight SEC games that are littered with ranked teams while an independent like ND might play OSU and USC spaced apart by a few weeks. Duke and Louisville would be a breath of fresh air for teams like Bama and LSU.

[@TechPanther7]

@@lakengilbert3299 SEC teams do not play 4 straight non conference ranked opponents.. they play FCS teams that are absolute cupcakes in between their big matchups lol

[@richardramirez4121]

Fax Lincoln Riley couldn’t win because he had no defense at Oklahoma. He has no defense now at USC airport. Every loss that they get is on him cause he runs the show there. It is your fault that they are losing and they don’t have a good defense, because you are not interested in having a good defense

[@gregjacksun]

Lincoln riley is waiting to see how long they will put up with Grinch. He won't do anything about it before they make a stink, and when they do - he will move on. Personally I thyin Riley is burnt out.

[@donackerson5194]

Tbow is a fraud. He'll never win a natty. 2017 was his best shot with Bob Stoops players and he screwed it up

[@300ornun]

Every team could lose one or two games ion see nobody going undefeated

[@rockytoptom]

You are what your record says you are. Winning and losing is a binary concept. There is no "We won but.." or "We lost but.." in record books. We know this to be true because nobody goes around saying the 1957 ND team, which beat Oklahoma 7 - 0 and ended what is possibly the greatest win streak of any sport of all time at 47 games, was a good team. They were 7 - 3. Oklahoma gave them the game. USC was 5 - 0. They're now 5 - 1. They are what their record says they are, or in this case, are not. They're not undefeated but they have won some games. Context defeats math every time in sports.

[@kaijohnson5033]

Not a fan of either of these programs. Lean to dislike both. I was so happy watching USC go down in such spectacular fashion after seeing them be over inflated by the media (not JP) for the whole season. So easy to see that this game was gonna end this way after their abysmal recent defensive showings. USC is so fraudulent for parading as a playoff contender. Yes this comment may be a little over the top, I just love seeing overrated teams fall. Shoutout to the JP poll for getting it right… again.

[@Justyouraveragetrashcan]

Too bad they couldn’t show that energy last week when they got steam rolled and quit 🤷‍♂️

[@trenton7]

Southern Cal is way overrated. So much money in Los Angeles market to give up on.

[@adamNDkipker]

I bet Oaklahoma fans are on cloud nine After this USC loss..

[@marvinhancock6225]

🤣😂🤣

[@ce6277]

Yes

[@chrisjackson7606]

I feel LR has one foot out the door. Something seems to be in the works there

[@phillips3994]

Now imagine Riley without a heisman [caliber] QB. I think Caleb has bailed Riley out nearly 10 times. Twice at OU (Texas, Kansas), at least 4 times in 2022 (Oregon St, Arizona, Cal, UCLA), and already twice in 2023 against CO and Arizona. I used to consider Caleb a generational QB when it came to the college game, but it's games like this that make you question if that was ever a fair description. He's still elite and still owns a heisman, and maybe, just maybe, games like this will make him take his development more seriously.

[@RedBullND]

Hard to imagine Riley without a heisman trophy qb because that is what he’s known for. If it wasn’t Caleb it would have been someone else. Riley develops qb’s into superstars and based on Baker, Kyler, Jalen, and Caleb it should be expected that he’ll have someone else step up and be in the chase for a heisman. Caleb didn’t make Riley. He is a product of his system and was talent that he spotted and developed into the best QB in the draft class. Caleb still is generational. You can’t base all your beliefs about a coach and a QB on one game. You can’t win them all and they are human and allowed to have a bad day.

[@phillips3994]

@@RedBullND Riley is 1 for 2 from a success standpoint on QBs he has recruited AND developed from start to finish (Rattler being the other one). Not a large sample size. Considering Riley has worked with the following QB rankings (as recruits), I'm not sure if the results are so surprising to suggest Riley is truly developing these guys or simply plugging them into schemes while surrounded by talent: Caleb Williams: 5 star, #1 QB and overall player (On3), as well as #1 rivals QB, #2 QB according to ESPN and 247 Spencer Rattler: 5 star, consensus #1 QB in all recruiting services Kyler Murray: 5 star, #1 QB (ESPN), #2 QB (247), #3 QB (ON3) Jalen Hurts: 4 star, #1 QB according to 247 and otherwise top 10 QB. He had 3 prolific seasons with Bama before the 1 with OU. His last season with OU was his best from an overall statistical standpoint, but just for fun, I'll point out that he had more completions his first season as a freshman at Bama and a better QB rating his junior season at Bama than he did his senior season at OU. My point: He was ready to be plugged into any system, anywhere, and would have produced. Baker is the outlier who we all know started as a walk-on at OU. Riley has not started another 3-star or walk-on since. Also, I didn't say it was one game that changed my mind on Caleb. I said "it's games like this." This is certainly his worst game, no doubt. Funny enough, Caleb's biggest win is still as a Sooner when they came back to beat Texas, and I don't see him having such a meaningful game this year. Caleb has a few bad habits as a QB that will come back to haunt him in the NFL, and my biggest concern for him is how he handles adversity. These bad habits are overcome by his natural abilities and surrounding talent that won't work in the NFL. And his body language and leadership go to the toilet when USC is struggling as a team. He is still young, so let's hope Riley finishes strong on his development, but that's where Riley's track record is deficient: instilling players with character and resiliency.

[@knockout9446]

Was only a matter of time.

[@andretonsil7784]

Yes I here you

[@hughobrien4139]

Anyone can see from half a country away these guys don’t hit any physical limits in practice. They do not have anything associated with humility. They appear catered to. Especially when listening to their head coach. The only accountability heard at the coaching level is from the DC and everyone wants his head. ??? What USC has for a head coach is something other than. He is toxic for the game. He doesn’t build up he breaks down. That is all his resume should be allowed to state. The rest is a misrepresentation of facts. I’m just waiting to see if he receives a offer elsewhere and runs off or if he Jimbo Fishers the University for the rest of his contract. This guy lives on participation trophies.

[@Al-Rudigor]

No such thing as a football team not training hard in the off season. They just got beat.

[@thetony5474]

The abridged version…this was nothing more than USC being USC.

[@tonyhaywood619]

Actually opposite of the USC we’ve seen all year, but sure.

[@jaysmith7725]

FSU is coming

[@Cooljohn760]

Most definitely

[@jacoblutton3012]

usc will be fine in the big 10 next year, big 10 will be taken over by Washington, USC, Oregon and UCLA. osu, psu, and um will not make the big 10 championship or playoffs next

[@soonerlegendspodcast]

Ok If that makes you feel better

[@robertlain6095]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 USC won't even go 500 in Big 10

[@ce6277]

Whose your dealer? Can I meet him?

[@brunovergara7929]

PLEASE QUIT GIVING UGA FUEL

[@elonmusk8667]

Who else wonders why Caleb Williams cried like a baby? 🤦‍♂️

[@alpha_gospel]

USC is a dead program walking, heading into the Big10 with Lincoln Riley

[@tarekmohammed9411]

LR is a liar.

[@endcensorship874]

Caleb was exposed. He got the Heisman last year because everyone else was just worse. He wasn’t the best player in a weak year of Heisman finalists, he was the least worse.

[@Al-Rudigor]

Nah, he did some amazing stuff. Go Bucks!