25 ACP vs Ballistic Gel

[@professorpewpuew]

See my evaluation of Buffalo Bore's 25 ACP 60 grain load here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJXXaWNmq7yEeLc

[@RoscoesRiffs]

I've always thought the .25 acp would be a fantastic submachine gun round. High capacity magazines, fast rate of fire, and zero recoil. It would be a buzzsaw.

[@t-bfr45-70]

That is a interesting idea

[@jefferybauduin2919]

Yeah but it can’t shoot through a car door or a half inch of wood.

[@RoscoesRiffs]

@@jefferybauduin2919 If it cycles fast enough, I suspect it could ripsaw right through them. 😎🖖

[@chucksneed1264]

imagine the ammo cost

[@thinmizzy365]

I want a bolt action in 25 ACP.

[@grayghost1031]

Thank you for your video!! I contacted underwood ammo asking they consider making the .25acp round as they do the .32acp. I love mouse guns. I retired from a state police agency in which I worked several shootings. Two that come to mind with a 25acp, one the perp was shot in the head and the other in the heart. Both DOA. Shot placement , shot placement shot placement. Please keep the videos coming. Much respect.

[@upinarms79]

I agree with you that shot placement is very important, but I think over-confidence in skill also gets even experienced shooters in trouble when it comes to self-defense situations. It's one thing to be able to put 100% of your shots on paper exactly where you want them, but it's another thing entirely in the chaos of a fight, even if you are good under pressure. I trust my abilities to be accurate too, but I won't carry anything smaller than a .32, so that even if I only manage get some of my shots where I want them, it will still be good enough to incapacitate an attacker.

[@brandonnevarez8417]

Similar to a 1st reponder i heard talking he said he seen a young black kid bleeding out with a single .22lr gun shot wound to the upper back from a small revolver in the projects didnt make it on other hand came up on a woman in 50s who in domestic situation was shot point blank in neck with a .45 acp slug bout half inch away from windpipe and miased the jugularband some how it jus lodge in there n didnt pass thru and she was litterly conscious walking and talking hold a towel on her neck and survived

[@connorvaughn7968]

See, the thing about protective carry weapons these days, is that most carriers are paranoid and assume every assailant that you may have to potentially shoot is some heavily armored Die Hard bad guy. You could have one of the most shitty 22 pistols and one shot would most likely stop someone trying to harm or mug you. A 25 ACP is plenty enough to stop a home intruder or mugger.

[@professorpewpuew]

I happen to be a fan of the 25, myself. I wish more pistols were still made for them.

[@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132]

Or even 22 short lmao

[@brsavage5504]

@Nigel Cam i would use it in the house because its light and small. People really think a .25 acp is weak and wont do damage but I dont want them in my chest tbh 😂

[@taasch2505]

I'm not saying .25 acp isn't deadly or anything. But if I have someone shooting at me I would prefer a bit more stopping power and penetration potential at 10 yards or so. Plus they might not go down right away. Now see I love .380 ACP but that gets a lot of hate too and I sometimes carry a .32 auto. I like the bersa combat 380. It's considered obsolete but I shoot it well and use those xtp rounds from underwood. I'm not too worried about it getting the job done

[@tbjtbj4786]

I know I am late to this. But I think your off base here. I don't think it has anything to do with die hard the movie. But crazy people drunk and doped people can be hard to stop. And its not about lethality its about stopping the attack. Popping someone 3 or 7 times and them dieing 20 seconds after the put a knife in you or a loved one bad. All handguns really are not that great at stopping some one. So if you have the choice on what to carry. Why would you pick a small hard to hit with with the least ft lbs of energy? I don't want to here about shot placement. Leo hit ratio averages under 40% Thats with a duty gun. That should be way easier to hit with than a pocket gun.

[@PatRiot-]

Cool to hear Browning himself saw a need and filled the gap. This type of pistol is doing just that for many people I wouldn’t recommend it for everything But I would absolutely recommend a .25 over .0 caliber hands.

[@danielhershman7051]

I caught that as well. "Filled the gap" you sound like a day trader! Lol

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Saw a need? More like saw a market.

[@derrillhutto1152]

I don't know about zero caliber hands I'm 6'4" close to 280lbs and wrestle heavy produce all day. That being said I've probably got 50. cal arms and hands. And only if another guy has a gun am I outmatched.

[@frankbutta9344]

My wife attended the Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce’s annual gala last year. The only pistol that was small enough to fit in her hand clutch (tiny pocketbook/wallet) was a Beretta 950 in .25 acp. She sat with the mayor, and he was none the wiser...lol!

[@TheHonestTruth]

Wow lol

[@spaceballer1993]

That doesn't sound quite like something to brag about on youtube

[@daveufirst]

Yes, we should all be afraid to exercise our right to BEAR arms.

[@spaceballer1993]

@John Doe because carrying a firearm into a government facility is definitely legal...

[@misters2837]

@@spaceballer1993 You have know idea what venue the gala was held...

[@smellygoatacres]

I carry a .25 as pocket pistol and I figure that 8 rounds at center mass is plenty good. It's not about caliber, it's about shot placement.

[@tbjtbj4786]

I know I am late to this. Have you shot anyone before? Have you been shot at? Have you shot someone while being shot at? Have you had any shoot under stress training? Was it with the handgun that you think 8 25 acp will be enough? Have you been on a 2 way range? The 25 better than nothing. But to count on shot placement to be exact with little guns while being shot at is not sound planning.

[@Z3V5B0]

@@tbjtbj4786 You're right. However most cc holders have a greater chance of close range defense over long range shootouts. Therefore a .25 all day is better than nothing. Over 90% of cc today think they are going to battle. Makes me laugh.

[@tbjtbj4786]

@@Z3V5B0 yes its better than nothing. Well if you have to use a ccw you are in a battle. The point about being close contact is a good point. And one that makes the biggest caliber that you can shoot that much more important. And handgun really not a good stopper. And the closer you are to the other guy the more chances you have at being shot or stabed. And the better chance it will go to a death. Close is bad in a fight.

[@spacetoast4874]

Unless you need penetration lol

[@equalopportunitygadfly5908]

Dude I once shot a vicious dog with 25ACP and saw it bounce off. I actually found the bullet. Also I saw a cop shot six times in the face with one and he was fine. He lost some teeth and spit out two bullets thinking they were teeth.

[@fyterjetfan100]

Ty for taking time to do this video! Well done. Agree with you, as a last resort option, the right shot placement. 25 acp can be a life saver.

[@77klinok]

It needs to be understood that FBI minimum requirements for adequate bullet penetration include penetration of light obstacles, such as doors, car windshields, car door, before bullet hits the body. So, in such situation the bullet should have ample power to overcome those light obstacles and still have enough power to do significant damage to a human body. Self-defense scenarios normally don’t include those light obstacles to overcome, and that means that .25acp cartridge has ample enough energy and penetration to stop the assailant on its tracks. For example, a human heart is located about 4 inches deep, behind front breast plate of the human body, and 10-11 inches of penetration is adequate penetration to reach and pierce vital organs.

[@upinarms79]

You are right about FBI testing but bone is also a lot harder to get through than you might think. Ballistics gel is a good analogue for fat, skin, and normal muscle mass, but the entire human body is a little tougher. You might be lucky and any confrontation you're ever involved in might just be an attacker in an clear, open space that's only wearing light clothing with no obstructions, but since that's obviously not guaranteed to always be the case, why not just carry something that will still do the job in those situations as well?

[@josephfemoyer7218]

U.S Army ballistics,you need 50 foot lbs to create a wound capable of physical injury,deadly physical.The 25acp has more than ample energy to incapacitate.John Browning created the 25acp as an answer to the 22l rimfire.Browning wanted a more reliable 22 rimfire

[@kmorris180]

I teach defensive shooting and as with any round, shot placement is very important. If the round was useless, it wouldn't be in production and have those who carry a weapon chambered in it. Yes, it's weak by today's standards. But it has been used for self defense with good results. There are even a few new developments in regards to the pills available for them including bullets that open up at lower velocities. At any rate, it's better than a stick.

[@TheJerrys1]

thank you for a simple straight forward review.

[@mikeflynn1327]

Thank you for your effort. .25 is a killer.

[@bobclifton8021]

Since the 25acp was and is intended for short range self defense, it's more than adequate to do the job. At short range a .22 short is adequate and has been used effectively. The number one factor as stated in the video is bullet placement. You need to hit where it will be the most effective.

[@matthewprior3762]

Most informative info for the .25acp

[@bluesman1063]

The bottom line is, do you want to get shot with one? If you put 5 rounds in a persons chest fights over.

[@JohnDoe-fs6tk]

and then some ignorant liberal prosecunt paints you as a murderer because you didn't use 3 rounds from a more decent caliber. needing to unload a whole clip is ridiculous.

[@Hornet_Legion]

Most likely, but there exceptions. People been pumped in the chest with a full mag of 45 acp and kept ticking with fight left in them (on flakka of courde) and the bullets clipping critical organs. But typically and ia often seen in big game kills, enough adrenaline, and enough aneorobic chemicals stored in the muscles can keep a maniac going for up to 30 seconds. My late model f.i.e. holds 8 rounds. :) Pistols are pistols, and rifles are rifles. Pistols poke holes, rifles blow holes.

[@bigballanola6096]

Uganda Knuckles yea they most likely dtill gonna make it i know someong got shot 6 times in the stomach chest arms and a leg and still living and the shooter was like no more than 8 feet away

[@PatRiot-]

John Doe you have a point. Though I don’t think any liberal would be debating that you should have used a bigger gun ect

[@ghostface713kill]

I pump 10 .25acp into a mugger ... Havent ubseen taxi driver

[@iGotKicks]

This video is made for all those people that say ...."you could shoot me with a 22 or 25 it wouldn't do nothing" 🤔😉😁🤣😂 Great video!

[@ThunderMountainTactical]

Good old ball ammo seems to be the ticket for the .25. Good test buddy!

[@professorpewpuew]

Thanks man. I might revisit ball only loads later, but for now, its time to move on.

[@shadowwolf7622]

I was raised on a farm. We did our own butchering. I've dispatched many a large hog with a 25acp. FMJ had no problem going through their skulls at close range. And every one of them over the years dropped on the 1st round, except 1. I had 1 cartridge make a very weak sound when it went off. It did manage to make it out of the barrel. The bullet hit where I was aiming, but stuck in its skin. My 2nd shot fired just fine and finished the job.

[@PatRiot-]

All Outdoors cool video. Would be willing to watch a video on expansion of .25 hollow points (if you haven’t already done it.) If they will expand on dead pigs or something Or not expand at all under any circumstance

[@wehrewulf]

A known aspect for a almost a century.

[@danielhershman7051]

@@shadowwolf7622 I agree .25 will do the job. BTW.did any ever exit the skull? Just curious is all. The Beretta .22rm and .25acp were notorious for being the go to for the old mob hitmen. Also I would think the hogs skull is thicker than other mammals lol

[@GunCollector007]

Great testing as always! I carry my Beretta Jetfire as backup.

[@professorpewpuew]

I'd like a 21a in 25 ACP.

[@frankbutta9344]

I carry a .25 Beretta as well. It’s a great little gun!

[@davidforsberg5675]

Thats my summer light clothing ccw pistol too. Love it

[@RicardoNY1]

Think about it like this..........who would you rather be shooting at you?...........someone with a .25 that's going to tag you at least four or five times because they know how to shoot or casual guy emptying a 9mm who will maybe hit you once? And it's pretty obvious by the ballistics that a .25 will indeed fuck you up.

[@Chimib]

All theories and tests about .25 acp are both misguided and misleaded. Those were designed not to duel against a criminal, but to be fired in self defense at a very close range (inches) from an attacker and to be fired directly at the face of an attacker, in a situation such as a kidnapper grabbing the wrist of a lady or a perp trying to stab you... not to be compared with guns to be used in a gun fight...

[@nojustno1216]

I carry a Colt 25 auto model 1908 as a backup to my Ruger redhawk 45 colt. She was born in 1912 with matching numbers and honest wear. Great for up close and personal work.

[@andywilliams5206]

I got one matching numbers from 1909, I love it

[@zebradun7407]

A good no nonsense test, with no bias, no this is or is not a combat round. Fired into gel at self defense gun ranges in this caliber covered with denim. If you must shoot one of these in defense be inside arms length and target an area CNS. Sinus, eye, under the chin, Carotid Artery, medulla Oblongata or in the chest heart area possibly the liver.

[@daveufirst]

Nads, too.😯

[@haroldkreye8770]

I carry 2 Beretta Jetfires in .25 Auto. They always go bang-bang. We fired Fiocchi 50 grain ball ammo through a 1 X 4 at 10 feet. There was complete penetration.

[@atcsman]

Several years ago I was working in an ER at an AFB and a "victim" was brought in dead as a doornail. He had one small hole in his chest from a .25 ACP. Just one small hole and a 200 pound guy bite the dust. I started one from that time onwards.

[@daveufirst]

"Started one" what?

[@TTime685]

@@daveufirst Lol

[@bloopy6166]

@@daveufirst that is so ominous Wtf did they start doing after seeing that dead guy lol

[@mkshffr4936]

Probably meant started carrying one.

[@Barbarjinkies]

Considering his name is Bennett, it could be a successful chain of funeral homes

[@matonmongo]

Would somebody please put the myth of 'stopping power' out of its misery. And only crappy marksmen need to 'rely' on it anyway.

[@matonmongo]

@FMJackal Unless it's with a better 'marksman'... aka, "I'll be your huckleberry."

[@D33Lux]

Always impressive vids. The 32 cal is a good choice too, much bigger bullet and more punch. Kel-tec P32 semi-auto is a very affordable choice for CC.

[@professorpewpuew]

The 32 caliber guns are my personal favorite and I would like to make it a priority to test them soon.

[@glenmo1]

Warm weather is typically when these little pistols are carried..& you're assailant would be lightly dressed most likely just a t-shirt...11in pen. out of a tiny pocket pistol. Is nothing to sneeze at....25 fmj ball penetrates hard barriers like a skull..ie headshots. Better than 22 long rifle hyper vel .. out of a short barrel pocket pistol... So for warm weather carry I would trust my 25 Jetfire any day as a primary or backup

[@johnjackson7464]

been following you for a couple of years or so and I appreciate your videos.

[@OhioCruffler]

Good job, I appreciate the test.

[@seanoconnor4515]

I carry the Barrett 6.35 made in Italy. A pistol from the 50s. Target practice for head shots gives confirmed kill shot. Small package big results knowing how to use it when you need it. Original heavy all steel barretta. Flawlessly exercising carrying a small back up. She's my baby!

[@leejohanson6162]

Great video! I edc a Beretta .25 and I love it. I shoot and practice with it regularly....practice and placement.

[@BrianTEEu]

I would love for you do this over with extreme penetration ammo or .25 acp honey badger ammo. These were designed to penetrate deeply.

[@TheJHMAN1]

The thing people forget is that you want to stop the attack, killing is not what you want(well some do). And a 25 will stop an attack.

[@JohnDoe-fs6tk]

A 25 will just make them angrier esp if they are on drugs unless you manage to hit a vital organ while unloading the whole clip. And I wouldn't trust such a weak round to actually do that.

[@daveufirst]

Yeah, that "just make them angry" blather is just that. Most will just run when they see your gun, or run (if they can) if they feel your gun.

[@frankbutta9344]

Watch Paul Harrell’s .25 and .380 meat target video. Complete penetration through 5 layers of winter clothing, and a pass through with spare ribs front and rear, wrapped around bags of oranges.

[@OliveMule]

Frank Butta awesome

[@thomasanderson6426]

I found one that was a 9mm & 380 meat target, couldn't find the .25 & 380 one though.

[@tombats6428]

Yes and Paul says he killed a deer with a 25

[@exothermal.sprocket]

You can kill an elephant with a sewing needle. Just not the best choice.

[@ronalddavidleindecker3358]

@@exothermal.sprocket Yes..6 inches of tough hide and a 12 inch layer of muscle is no match for a sewing needle.

[@caccomacaco]

Let's not forget that speed is the key when talking hollow point ammo. And barrel lengt is key on speed. I'm thinking that a slightly longer barrer (half of a inch or so) may give the bump those bullet need to surpass the speed thresholds they need to expand properly. I still like those little pistols!!! Great video by the way! Thanks and regards from Paraguay

[@tomsherwood4650]

Have owned the Beretta twenty fives. The single action will eat anything. Then I bought the DA version and the bullet has a longer jump into the chamber with those. So the HP bullets would jam on the ramp but FMJ worked. Be aware of that. Got a Bauer a Mauser and a Raven. The Raven worked great but beware weak mag springs with those. IF it is old you may need a new mag.

[@glennsammon4465]

the FBI standard was first at 10" . they only changed it to 12" because they wanted rounds to defeat barriers including car doors . we don't need that, so 10" is good for us. we must SEE our targets and they can't be hiding behind barriers because we don't know what else is.

[@MoabYoda]

I was messing with some .25 ammo today and looking at my S&W bodygaurd. If you made a double stack mag you could fit 17 rounds of .25 acp into a gun the same size as the Bodygaurd. 7 rounds of .380 or 18 rounds of .25 ????? I think one of our gun manufacturers should consider making a micro .25 with modern polymer and a high capacity double stack. You could make an ultra tiny gun that weighs next to nothing with a really high capacity.

[@RedcoatsReturn]

Would not 10-12“ do a lot of damage to organs and blood vessels though? I agree you need to hit the target 2-3 times and the hole is small so the bleed rate will be not so fast but even so, the target person wont be feeling so great for sure. Tests by Paul Harrel show fmj 25 acp bullets will damage bone and others have shown they will penetrate skull. Agreed, hollow points don’t make sense and its best to go for all the penetration you can get with this modest calliber.

[@joekurtz8303]

At close range , in a vital spot, .💥

[@johnfaris5376]

I have about a dozen handguns, three of them are 25 auto and here’s what I like about 25 Auto: there’s absolutely no recoil, which lets me back on target really fast, if I have to shoot one in self-defense, it won’t make me deaf, it’s a reliable round and finally, after shooting all kinds of stuff with my 25 autos, IMV confident, I could stop a bad guy with it. As we see from self defense, shooting most people pound the lead into the air and stressful self-defense situation. So if I were to do that, which is likely, and hit the perp two or three times, no doubt in my mind he would be done. I love 25 auto.

[@GunSam]

Randomly researching .25 ACP, your video is the best online.

[@professorpewpuew]

It has not aged well. It is due for a good retest. Interested in giving it a do-over?

[@rottmanthan]

threw the denim and that far into the gel is better than i expected.

[@torch_ss5797]

IMO,..(and that's all it is,..my opinion),..this is intended for contact distance. If your attacker is close enough to grab or punch you, you'd empty this gun rapid-fire into their face/neck to allow yourself to escape. I can't imagine anyone taking a face full of those and continuing to push an attack.

[@nobodysreview6137]

Small guns r great because youll have it on u and they r easier to draw when u need them. Big gun under a bunch of clothes can b hard to get at.

[@sketchbook1]

Won't 11 inches of penetration hit a vital organ? I mean, the heart isn't more than 3 or 4 inches in, right?If the round can penetrate the head or the heart, then it's game over anyway.

[@professorpewpuew]

That doesn't take into account bone. Which is why 11 inches doesn't sound so great.

[@sycamorebacker1]

All of the tests I've seen, the bullets go right through ribs and keep on going.

[@loganjones5766]

You have sternum or ribs in front of the heart though. And a skull around the brain so I think the 12 inches ballistic gel is to compensate for things like bone etc.

[@clanka7708]

Apparently FBI standards require 12 inches to ensure a round would also be able to travel through and arm and then into chest, or any situation similar to that. That's just according to anothercomment tho so dont take my word for it

[@JohnDoe-fs6tk]

Bone will probably cut penetration in half, or less. Can deflect the bullet too.

[@daveufirst]

FBI test isn't the human body with just a few inches of flesh before vital organs. And then there's the neck and skull. The .25 is certainly adequate. Just showing a gun is usually adequate.

[@professorpewpuew]

That's a reason why they want 12 inches minimum. I think its a relatively arbitrary baseline to take into account factors we can't accurately gauge, like size of the body, angle of shot, and the presence of bone. This test is simply a baseline of comparison against other rounds and is repeatable. Shooting a real person has so many variables that its hard to accurately predict anything, so it isn't repeatable and testable.

[@sycamorebacker1]

I believe the 12" is the minimum for a "service" pistol, right? That would not apply to a pocket weapon.

[@daveufirst]

sycamorebacker1 I thought 12 was regardless of caliber. As long as it gets the job done. A .22 lr in the neck would certainly work, too..

[@sycamorebacker1]

I would assume 12" is supposed to get to vital organs with a shot in center mass. Of course, it's a lot about location.

[@bigsean2473]

@@sycamorebacker1 are you 12inches thick???? the 12 is for if shot threw the arm or something else first so the bullet has enough power to make it to vital organs after that fact. 10 inches in the chest can and will hit vital organs, heart lungs liver this round is capable of killing with the 10 inchs it went,

[@foxjerry1]

I cc my Colt 1908 and always load ball ammo 6 + 1. Haven't found anyone who will volunteer to stand in front of it. Good vid.

[@kidsavage86]

I just found one of those in the woods if i clean it is it worth anything its rusty af number 9104

[@dewaynewhite5753]

Three words: BETWEEN THE EYES!

[@keegan773]

Dewayne White Two words.....SHOT PLACEMENT

[@41magfan]

The bad guys or your own so you don't feel them beating you to death

[@elijahlopez1352]

One word... Facial

[@strikerdelta]

@@keegan773 well isn't shot placement what he meant when he said between the eyes dumbass pay attention

[@exothermal.sprocket]

One word: PRACTICE

[@JenniferinIllinois]

What, you mean 25acp doesn't just bounce off denim? Hehehe...

[@matthewrice7548]

Little Jenny nope it doesn’t bounce of it goes right though I know from experience

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Nope, just like 22lr doesn't. Haha.

[@shadowwolf7622]

@Dick Burns Not a close range, straight on shot.

[@KingHaggis]

There's nothing wrong with a decent .25 acp pistol but nowadays there are better options for a compact handgun with a much more powerful round. If you're stuck with a .25 acp however, a well placed shot will still take out your attacker and most give up the will to fight if they survive the first shot. Many people have bitten the dust underestimating the small .25. Having said that, there are situations where adrenaline will keep an attacker going especially with bad shot placement and a more powerful handgun will always be best. TLDR: carry the biggest gun you comfortably can. If that has to be a .25 it's a lot better than nothing.

[@Hornet_Legion]

You can get 8 rounds in my f.i.e., and it is smaller than most 380s. All pocket autos rely on bullet placement more than expansion. The fbi protocol is based on the miami dade shootout. Which is supposed to simulate the penetration into shirt, thru arm flesh, out of shirt, back into shirt, into chest cavity. From front on most handguns will punch thru the breastplate ir ribs and make it at least into the heart, lung area, or liver and with a hope of hitting the spinal cord or arteries that runs along the inside of the spine.

[@user-td1zo3tv9p]

Brings to mind a saying about the .25ACP: IF you shoot someone with the .25ACP round, And they find out, They're gonna be MAD! All kidding aside, back in 1978 (yeah, I'm OLD!) when I was in the Army we had a Sgt. who was catting around with a married woman and happened to overstay his "welcome" when Hubby came home early and found said Sgt. with his wife. Said Sgt. decided it was time to Un-Ass the AO out the bedroom window while nekked and took a .25ACP Ball round in the leg for his philandering efforts. Sgt. SWORE he'd been hit by a .44 Magnum but not. LMAO For his efforts our intrepid Sgt. was given a nice Article 15 for "Destruction of Government Property," lost one month wages (but no rank...go figger) and restricted to quarters (mostly to recuperate) and ordered to stay the "F" away from the married woman. Go figure. Lucky the guy WASN'T shot with a .44 Magnum and luckier yet he wasn't hit in his "bean" or "seed producers" for his efforts. (I wish he HAD been. He was a real POS, known to do such things prior, allegedly) LMFAO Several morals to the story: 1. Keep your Pecker in your pants when it ain't appropriate to be dipping it wrongly; 2. Don't be messing around with a married woman not your own; 3. If you are bound and determined you MUST mess around with a married woman, make DAMNED SURE her Hubby doesn't arrive home unannounced and with a gun of ANY caliber, and, lastly; 4. DON'T MESS AROUND WITH A MARRIED WOMAN WHO YOU AREN'T MARRIED TO, DAMMIT!! (Didn't I already mention this? Yeah, see #2 above since it bears mentioning repeatedly! LMAO ) I oftentimes (? Well, once in a while) wonder what ever happened to that married couple as well as the Sgt. Are they still married? Is the Sgt. still alive? Will we EVER know who was in the Grassy Knoll in Dallas? You know. IMPORTANT Stuff. Hahahahaha!) I PCS'd from that duty station shortly thereafter and ended up in Europe (Germany) for the next 26 months and didn't give it another thought for the longest time as I had plenty of other things to concern myself with afterwards. (PS, if you happen to be that dumbass Sgt. and happen to read this, chime in and lemme know if you survived and went on to more messing around. Or got shot "better" for your efforts. LMFAO) 🤣

people complain of being stung by insects, being hit by a .25 acp may not kill you but it is going to f@cking hurt.

[@TheHonestTruth]

Your story made me laugh so damn hard..... Hilarityyyyyy

[@jameskaras4345]

its not the sgts fault. Its tha womans , She was a slot cause her husbund didnt fucked her well and was seeking for a dick,The sgt deserves a matal...Next time take advise from a navy guy,

[@markkilburn112]

In a slightly longer barrel the bullets might mushroom properly.

[@wigon]

You made one incorrect statement that the American made .25 autos were not as small as the imports. They were of the same size. Also not all of them were junk. I have a Raven MP-25 and it's actually a very reliable little pistol even if it's made of pot metal. It's also surprisingly accurate. I don't carry as I don't have a CCP, but if I did, I'd feel perfect comfortable carrying it. The only negative thing about it is that it's safety is not very safe to carry with a round loaded in it. So you'd have to to train drawing it while racking the slide regularly. Also 11" of penetration is still likely to penetrate deep enough to do significant damage. Back in the 80's and early 90's I remember these little guns being responsible for a hell of a lot of gang murders. It's definitely not something you want to get hit by. It's also significantly more reliable than 22LR which is why it surprises me that it never fully replaced 22LR. I can only assume that it's because the longer range (relatively speaking at 100 yards) ballistics through a rifle is probably not as good.

[@theusher2893]

Ravens get a bad rap but they're solid pistols. If it works and works reliably there is no problem.

[@thecloud7063]

Every body under estimate these killer bullets

[@lmaolmoo4147]

I hope .25 makes a comeback and people make some really good ammo like they did with .22.

[@stargazer2042]

The caliber is not the issue. The barrel length is. A 4 inch barrel would take those to 14 inches. But the hollow points would open up and penetrate less deep. Short barrels are loud. The powder that fails to push the bullet as fast as a riffle would goes to a louder bang.

[@danielrichardson5749]

Forget the hollow point in the little guns penetration is more important

[@PalKrammer]

Good experiment and demonstration.

[@robertkubrick3738]

I got brought in by the Seecamp, I wish you had shown more of it. The Seecamp 32 is the size of a 25, I can imagine how small a Seecamp 25 would be.

[@aaronshoyt]

My .25 Raven with Full Metal Jacket rounds is not weak.. I mean it's no badass, but it works great for me.

[@professorpewpuew]

As long as it works all the time, who cares what gun you have. The No. 1 rule is that it has to work..

[@andrewclark3977]

And to always carry it.

[@davidcarter9322]

Still carry my 25 auto MP-25 Raven. Works great and reliably !

[@theusher2893]

I have a Phoenix hp25a that's always been reliable. (Phoenix was started by the previous owners of Raven.) Ravens get a bad rap for being "Saturday night specials" but the fact is, they performed well and brought self defense to the masses.

[@starbuck1776]

When I carry .25 or .32 I carry FMJ. Hell, FMJ makes some sense with .380 acp and 9mm Makarov as well.

[@professorpewpuew]

That seems to be a smart plan of action. I hope to someday soon test only 25 ACP hollow-points, but 30 Carbine, 10mm, and 357 Magnum are on the list next.

[@sycamorebacker1]

I believe 380 FMJ's penetrate too much. The XTP is the best .380 bullet.

[@davidbrewer8402]

Good information about the 25 I personally own a titan 25 that I inherited years prior that was used in a self defense shooting back in the mid 70s during the altercation the guy was shot twice did stop him from the attack but from what I heard the police picked him up walking down the road a few blocks away and was taken to the hospital where he died 3 days later its a ok round but wouldn't trust for a everyday carry

[@fat-boyzstudios5654]

I hate when people say dumb shit like it’s “inadequate” or a “last resort”. Dude, that is more than plenty to kill a human being with one shot.

[@steelgila]

Seems to me that this is a powerful little pocket pistol. Certainly I can see it is a step up from the .22 cal. pistol and that one's a plenty lethal number in it's own right too! Thanks for the demo I really enjoy these graphic videos giving a visual picture of the power of these various calibers.

[@professorpewpuew]

Thank you for watching. After I get done with my little 380 ACP series. I will move onto other calibers but I intend to revisit 25 ACP ball ammunition in the future.

[@zachz699]

I would not carry less than a .38 or a 9x19, but Im not standing in front of it either

[@bryananderson3772]

I agree. Shot placement isn't always an option so it's nice to have a little more power

[@ruger51995]

Personally I love this caliber. You can drive nails in with the shit they're so accurate and easy to shoot I'm a shit shot with my big revolver but can hit with these everytime, and regardless if it has power for a clean pass through it still will hurt like a motherfucker

[@raymondgatley8793]

Just about every WW2 American officers carried a 25 auto,police for backup also,the 25 auto was designed to duplicate the 22 lr ballistics fr a 6.5 in barrel, with modern powders, it can really be fired fast

[@robertmueller6979]

Good video... remember... you can remelt your gelatin....

[@upinarms79]

.25 is fine for situations where you need to be able to carry a gun in places where you have to keep it well-hidden, but if you have the opportunity to carry anything larger, you should. .25 ACP is absolutely lethal if you can hit vital spots precisely with every shot without hindrance, but why leave anything to chance when you don't have to.

[@CHEECHMUN]

The brown gel may have caused those rounds to expand. There is a difference in the clear & brown gel!!!

[@Leverguns50]

That’s interesting I thought the 25 ACP was weaker than that, because We seen a guy looking for 25 ACP, The guy behind the counter ask him what he was getting it for because it’s not known to be a good killer, we are were all surprised by what he said, he said I don’t want to kill them they’re my friends, I just need something to protect myself, always wondered what he meant by that

[@glenmo1]

25 ACP was actually popular right up until the early 2000s when many 32 acps started to emerge and reliable 22s.... Then in the mid-2000 s 380 pocket pistols became the greatest thing since sliced bread and 25 and 32 became passe.. 22 pocket pistols we're still popular because of the low cost of practice ammo.... Despite most manufacturers dropping 25 ACP and 32 ACP many people still carry them.. as you don't see many used 25s especially the quality ones on the shelves... In fact the high quality used 25 s are still going for quite a expensive price for a so-called antiquated cartridge..

[@ParasidicGeneration]

Great test

[@joejones4039]

Some people will only feel secure carrying a cannon with 40 rd mags. I keep a 25 as a backup. I rotate my primary between a 45, 38, 357 and 380.

[@ima4ster]

I often carry my Seecamp in .32 acp

[@professorpewpuew]

I would like one of those.

[@mac11380]

One of the best made out there.

[@D.L.W.]

Great gun

[@MPGunther1]

Enjoyed your video, good info

[@egahh9636]

Just wondering how far away he was shooting? A firearm like this is meant for close range self defense. Up close and personal. I would never underestimate the power of any caliber pistol.

[@user-td1zo3tv9p]

I wonder about those escaping rounds and how they tend to arc upwards. Could it be due to the lack of compressibility of the gel laying on the solid table that wants to let the projo take the path of least resistance, hence up or to one side or the other? Of all the tests I've seen on this medium and others, I have YET to see a projo arc downwards, striking the table below. Is this due to the gel density characteristics letting the projo travel the path of least resistance? Perhaps if the gel was suspended on a "grill" of some sort that, while holding it in suspension, allows the gel to "flex" as it wants. Another alternative could be to support an additional gel block above and to each side to capture any errant and squirrely projo's without compromising the free-standing characteristics of not-compressed gel. (From above, maybe hold that block suspended in a vacuum without changing the density characteristics appreciably. Those to the side shouldn't cause any problems I wouldn't think but with Full Disclosure: I'm no Scientist. Just some food for thought and my $0.02 worth on the topic. Your thoughts?

[@ralphm.chavez5603]

...a bullet will travel in a path of least resistance. That bullet that flew right on out was very near the edge of gel block. It flew "upwards" because of least resistance.

[@blackhawk7r221]

On our ranch, when we have finished taking orders for beef and hog meat, the livestock is dispatched the same way we’ve been doing it for decades. Pawpaw’s old Baby Browning .25 that he brought home from the war. It’s the same CC I use in the summertime when I’m out at a festival wearing short shorts, flip flops, and no shirt. It’s the same pistol that cost me a $869 carpet replacement bill when my house was broken into. Whether it’s that 600lb hog, the 1100lb beef cow, or a 170lb methhead, it requires proper shot placement. Nothing was quite as upsetting to see as a full grown cow being shot in the side of the head with a 9mm and going into violent spastic convulsions nearly destroying the sheet metal tubing slot pen because the shot did not immediately kill it. Hint-never let someone who doesn’t know about killing attempt to kill.

[@sanchezroman8995]

At one time , before WWll , WALTHER chambered one of their PPK pistol models in .25 Acp , for issue to their very high Military Brass... A very rare piece.

[@paulmcmanus9603]

The common notion is that the 25acp is an anemic, under-powered, not good for anything but popping balloons. There are several variable that determine the power of a pistol including the barrel length, caliber, bullet weight, and the amount of energy that the cartridge expends inside the firing chamber in pounds per square inch (PSI). The 25 cartridge itself is not anemic at all when it comes to energy released. Some examples of other calibers from SAAMI standards : 44 Special 15,500 psi 38 Special 17,000 38 Special+P 20,000 32acp 20,000 380acp 21,500 45acp 21,000 45acp+P 23,000 Where do you think the 25acp is in this lineup? 25acp 25,000 Now the 9mm,40cal,357mag are all 35,000 and 44mag is 36,000psi The 25acp is not exactly chopped liver, its the length of the barrel that matters most (or lack of) in the mouse guns. So don't let anybody tell you about how piss poor and low life the 25acp cartridge is.

[@jano2429]

paul, your physics is not good. PSI is a unit of pressure not unit of energy. 25,000 PSI in a small volume like 25 ACP cartridge can represent much less energy than 15,000 PSI in much bigger brass case. Ask your teacher......

[@robertmueller6979]

lol... just couldn't resist eh wot?

[@D5quared91]

I agree, Paul makes 0 sense.

[@illuminatedcrosshairs7865]

paul mcmanus what in the hell are you talking about? Psi? Pounds per square inch? Really? You ever heard of ballistics? Bullet ballistics? There is nothing whatsoever in them to do with psi. Muzzle energy and muzzle velocity and the trajectory chart on flight! You need to go check your tire pressure?😳 the 25 is less powerful than all the other calibers you mentioned by far!!!

[@bigsean2473]

these are chamber pressures that the round makes in the barrel when fired. not the energy it has when it leaves the barrel. you can have 45000psi and still have 123 foot pounds of energy

[@stargazer2042]

The ammo is fine for self defense. The problem is the barrel is too short. Add half an inch or an inch to get to 12-13 inches. And skip the hollow points.

[@greatbigeye2506]

Buffalo Bore makes 25 acp loads now, would be great to see how they do in gel.

[@davidmuncy7862]

as a backup gun, for like deep concealment for Law enforcement (space and carry options are very limited with the gear thats already worn, along with the type of work done and retention needed), I can see some justification in that field for carrying. It's not the primary arm, and more than likely is only going to be used in a close hand to hand struggle where the duty weapon is either inaccessible or compromised (ie fighting over it). Outside of that... it's better than NO GUN... but there are better options out there.

[@crystalplayboybunny]

strait to the point...good video

[@shootermcgavin4090]

Been watching your videos for a little while now, youre more informative than a lot of other channels. Liked and subscribed!

[@professorpewpuew]

Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I try to get one or two new videos out per month.

[@TheEnglishLongbow]

Good video. I'd like to see more ballistics gel tests on older ammo that used to be in regular usage such as .32 S&W long, that was used for years in NYPD and also S&W Super police / British 38/200 that were essentially the same round and saw extensive use militarily and with police forces across the world. All three must have been considered worthwhile to have such longevity.

[@professorpewpuew]

The 32 S&W Long is on my short list. I did shoot the 32 S&W short in my Iver Johnson video into gel.

[@toviyyahjudah6828]

In my law enforcement career I’ve seen a few people die from .25 acp. I don’t carry one I definitely don’t want to get hit it one.

[@kkuster1]

.25 and the .32 IMHO are nice calibers if one has the correct mindset. These are not meant to END threats - but may do so - They are meant to allow one to ESCAPE a threat.

[@jamesvolo7948]

The FBI standard is for DUTY Munitions, not civilian self defense. On target works. "Barely adequate" is still adequate. It is the refuge of large caliber fans.

[@ronalddavidleindecker3358]

Mouse guns = jacketed ball. Period.

[@matthewprior3762]

Either way, i aint standing in front of a .25, your assailant must be a methed out zombie to have the insanity not too.

[@rubenmejias2503]

We shot a piece of heavy steel sheet , it stopped it. But skin or clothes isn't sheet metal. So for self defense. Why not, it's a splendid round, but really prefer hollow points. For better expansive performance

[@brianthwaites2397]

Any pistol is better than no pistol in a self defence scenario sure bigger is better but if .25ACP is all you have properly placed shots will do what is necessary.

[@Lcs_Sem_Fronteiras]

Good test brother.

[@tominnorcal]

Great test - Thanks!

[@Gallagher.661]

It's amazing this thing is still around lol

[@angelaprestwood1351]

25 auto just cost to much a 9mm is much better plus its a whole lot cheaper to shoot my thought

[@spaceballer1993]

I mean at that point why not carry a 44mag or 500s&w or 50ae pistol/revolver it will make your 9 look like garbage in every way