Buffalo Bore 25 ACP 60 Grain Hard Cast Ammo Test

[@professorpewpuew]

You asked for it and you got it.

[@GunSam]

This will be cool. I have never seen a test like this before, I doubt anyone has ever done a hard cast .25 ACP anywhere on YT.

[@professorpewpuew]

I like 25s and 32s. This is a formidable load. I took a nod to you in my little wood test. Love ya brother.

[@GunSam]

@@professorpewpuew Thanks! I just started watching the video now.

[@Masteradamant]

Great ballistic video, I just wish there was a chronograph for these .25acp ammo rounds. I trust hard cast about as much as a copper jacket. I want to say these rounds get about 100-130fpe in small pistol size and that a chronograph would be better.

[@moobutt]

When you were first shooting the Buffalo Bores through the chronograph, it sounded like you were having some FTF/FTE issues? That a 950?

[@chinabluewho]

@@professorpewpuew I wish Kel -Tec made a .25 P series gun like the P-32 , a 10 round +1 P25 with the pinky grip extension would be my EDC.

[@cybister4864]

Buffalo Bore makes the first legitimately lethal option in 25acp and changes everything. Love it.

[@professorpewpuew]

I agree. They also offer a traditional 50 grain ball round that I hope to check out as well.

[@Gieszkanne]

You think regular 25 ACP is not lethal. You shouldnt try it!

[@Desperado3248]

The 25acp has quick cooled more than a few people

[@ironmikehallowween]

I agree. Very cool

[@texmexshoots]

That is quite impressive performance. Thanks for posting it! The 25 acp seems to be making a resurgence in the market.

[@professorpewpuew]

I am not sure about a resurgence. There are only a few companies that make new guns, but there are so many old guns people still need ammo. BB also makes a 50 grain hard ball load I am anxious to try out.

[@texmexshoots]

@@professorpewpuew I'd love to see how the 50 grain does. Hope you get your hands on some to make a video!

[@scb0421]

I think the over penetration would concern me, and I think the 50 grain would have even greater penetration.

[@professorpewpuew]

@@scb0421 I hope to test the 50 soon. I am not sure I am worried about a few extra inches beyond FBI standards, especially with light-grained ammo. I am sure there is a slight danger but there is more by simply missing the target entirely.

[@Followme556]

It does?

[@kriseckhardt5148]

The 25 acp will rise again! I love my 6.35 mm pistols.

[@miniaturemachinist6098]

Hopefully. It's a pretty interesting little round.

[@MichaelPoage666]

I still carry my vest pocket Colt occasionally, it's just so small and handy.

[@nunyobuisniz713]

Oh man have I been looking for a channel to test this round! I cannot wait to see how it performs.

[@professorpewpuew]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@cmdrx5099]

I have 3 .25 ACP pistols. I love them as a pocket carry. A mouse gun that puts holes in 5-7 yards on a perp that wants to critical injury is better than a stick.

[@CeltKnight]

Most shootings I saw the results of back in my LE days were with .25acp. Very, very effective when put into the brainpan. Much more powerful rounds don't work usually if they miss the brain/spine/heart/aorta. Great test! Thanks!

[@BrokenBarBox]

Outstanding test! Thank you for doing such a good job on it!

[@pewpewTN]

.25 ACP is more capable than .22LR, although it's pretty close. The misconceptions come from .22LR velocities being listed from like 24"+ test barrels & .25 ACP being tested from tiny pocket guns. Seeing Buffalo Bore load one up properly shows that better than I can explain it.

[@rubenprata8272]

No it is not!! At all! You seem not to know that theres specific .22 ammo for small barrels, design dor personal defense, reaching 1000 ot more fps and more than 200 joules of energy. .25acp, even these buffalo bore, doesnt come even close. In addition, there's no good guns in .25, basically old 50 years old junk that jams once every 5 shots. You have extremely high quality and high capacity .22 pistols today

[@0251GAZA]

But those light weight 22lr bullets dont penetrate deep at all. They wont even exit a human. They just have higher energy but very low penetration ​@@rubenprata8272

[@spydercomonkey]

Thanks for doing this test. Really impressive results.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Cool, that's crazy penetration for a .25...

[@christopherkennedy8116]

Informative video and also very helpful. I currently use the Hornady FTX Critical Defense for my concealed carry, but after watching your video I may switch to the Buffalo Bore.

[@professorpewpuew]

I have a video in the Critical Defense round. It got enough penetration for sure, but did not expand. Both would be fine, I believe.

[@libra7624]

Federal 25 ACP punch 45 grain is available now, never thought 25 would be on their mind but they included it, Phoenix arms, barreta, browning guns are still being used so its nice to see a new ammo choice

[@cbroz7492]

..I've got an almost 100 year old Walther Mod 9...

[@bluracer766]

They tumble their way through which is nice, do a lot more damage that way.

[@greatbigeye2506]

Game changer! Thank you. Now if someone would make a modern polymer 25 pocket pistol…

[@Mooney05]

Taurus pt25

[@user-wg3wj6ur9z]

Beretta jetfire is dope.

[@Valorius]

if for some reason i was going to carry a .25, I would definitely choose this over anything else on the market.

[@ironmikehallowween]

I don’t know how I missed this video. Very nice! Thanks

[@anthonytripp2251]

I had a 21a and it was a Jam Master. I'm amazed at all the videos that show 21a jamming, failure to feed or eject

[@ReloadingMoreAD1966]

Excellent test sir. Well done 🥇

[@GunSam]

Pretty good performance. Any other caliber this design would be for a different purpose, but in the .25 the design is to just make it comparable to .380 ACP hollow points, sort of. Goes from almost worthless to, maybe okay. Makes me wonder, if .22 Mag and .25 ACP went head to head in comparable guns, which one would be more effective with the best ammo offerings.

[@professorpewpuew]

That is a good test idea. In general, people say that the 22 LR has more power but that wood test has me thinking otherwise. Plain 50 grain ball and 40 grain 22 LR solids have basically the same ballistic coefficient and the former went deeper in that particular test.

[@kennydoggins1712]

22lr rounds are typically plated not jacketed as where 25 is jacketed. Pretty sure 22 magnum is jacketed so it makes me curious to see 22 mag vs 25 acp in pocket / Snubbies too

[@rubenprata8272]

​@@professorpewpuewYou seem not to know that theres specific .22 ammo for small barrels, design dor personal defense, reaching 1000 ot more fps and more than 200 joules of energy. .25acp, even these buffalo bore, doesnt come even close. In addition, there's no good guns in .25, basically old 50 years old junk that jams once every 5 shots. You have extremely high quality and high capacity .22 pistols today

[@1957Shep]

The little 25acp may not be much, but it is still a whole lot better than a sharp stick. 🙂

[@Followme556]

that's debatable.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

Not much 😂

[@strikerdelta]

​@KEVIN Richardson okay smartass will you let someone unload the full magazine of that Beretta in your chest with this ammo?

[@Dharmabro108]

Your testing was great, wonderful video

[@libra7624]

a Q tip of Dupont silicon lubricant with Teflon on feed ramps of all my semi autos no matter what caliber or load type including hard cast before i carry them or shoot them, even if my semi autos cycle ok its a good habit i am into, a defense situation you only need the first magazine to work any way and even though temporary that Teflon will hold up for those few shots that really matter in a defense situation

[@user-tc2ud9fz3w]

I almost did not buy these rounds because of you. I stopped watching when you had a failure, came back a week later and saw your hand hold up the slide and continued watching. You caught it too, but you also insinuated it was the pistols fault at first. Good job on your video, I just did a bad job watching it.

[@haroldkreye8770]

Hello James, IMHO the 21A Bobcat is inferior to the 950 JetFire. My Bobcat (which I no longer own) was very ammo sensitive, while the 950 has processed every manufacturer and loading I have tried. I will order both Buffalo Bore loadings, try them in my 950, and let you know the outcome. Thanks again for another informative video.

[@professorpewpuew]

Hello Harold. I went on to test the other Buffalo Bore 50 grain FMJ load. It functioned flawlessly. I like my Bobcat but no question it is a thicker gun than it needs to be compared to the Jetfire.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Good stuff! Hope you are doing well.

[@haroldkreye8770]

Hello James, thanks for another informative video. Will you please do a video on the .380 ACP Buffalo Bore?

[@professorpewpuew]

I have video of their standard pressure 380 load. I need to get it edited together

[@kensetches2276]

You had some hard boards there. My Buffalo Bore 60 grainers will almost punch through three 2x4's out of my little Beretta 950B.

[@boylukefirearms]

beautiful video man!

[@dakotaboggs2250]

Would you really need expansion if it digs that deep?

[@wes326]

I really don't see the point in 25 and 32 ACP when pocket 380s are available. Thanks for sharing. Always great videos.

[@geraldshrewsbury3121]

BB is probably the only company that will properly load a .25acp 50gr. @850fps from a 2"bbl.

[@jaspergreen1652]

That's 60 grain

[@strikerdelta]

​@Jasper Green he's talking about their 50 grain FMJ option not the hard cast rounds here.

[@Gieszkanne]

No he tested a load from Remington that were also around 850fps. And a load from Aguila at 772fps but even this had 14-16 inches of penetration.

[@Narsuitus]

Thanks for the video. I normally shoot 50 grain FMJ in my 25acp Beretta. I will have to try the 60 grain hard-cast Buffalo Bore ammo. It looks promising.

[@southerncrossvids]

What model Beretta do you have? I have a 950 BS Jetfire, it does NOT load in my pistol. Just curious

[@Narsuitus]

@@southerncrossvids Beretta model 21A

[@mattbackwood]

When you stack boards it won’t pass through but just one board it does I have a video of a fiocchi 50gr fmj passing through 2 2x4’s

[@glennsammon4465]

I posted a comment on another vid and somehow the " I never liked this guy" comment winds up here, how did that happen. I do like this video and hope to see more of his stuff.

[@johnroddy931]

I’ve been waiting to see some one test those. Just so curious

[@DG-nb6fe]

Aren’t there magazine inserts to slightly lengthen flat nose rounds to avoid misfires?

[@Desperado3248]

So much for the mouse gun big mouths. This load puts the 22 lr to 25acp to bed. 20 gr heavier load at 850 fps , penetrating to 15-18 inches. A small pistol that can be hidden easily, firing this load , is a lifesaver

[@rubenprata8272]

You seem not to know that theres specific .22 ammo for small barrels, design dor personal defense, reaching 1000 ot more fps and more than 200 joules of energy. .25acp, even these buffalo bore, doesnt come even close. In addition, there's no good guns in .25, basically old 50 years old junk that jams once every 5 shots. You have extremely high quality and high capacity .22 pistols today

[@Desperado3248]

I do know and they are lighter, less reliable.

[@rubenprata8272]

@@Desperado3248 they perform better, and they are way more reliable than any .25acp, those old junk pistols

[@gsb5w291]

I’m impressed with the performance.

[@oscarbear7498]

Wow! The limit on a tomcat to be safe is 130ft/lb for a .32 acp. The .25 idk if has a max muzzle energy limit but if it could be pushed to 120 ft/lb that would be amazing. Im sure it could since the weak point is the frame and both share the frame

[@SuperSneakySteve]

Wow, those look very deadly to me.

[@libra7624]

Raven arms 25 acp is all i had back in 1986 so i need to get a 25 acp gun since i dont have one, a baby browning would be nice or some knock off close to the looks and quality of it

[@professorpewpuew]

I heard the Bauer clones are great. There is a small outfit called PSA that makes new ones but they are asking a princely sum for them.

[@lintlicker4178]

That was a fun video, thank you

[@cbroz7492]

..I recently bought 25 and 32 acp rounds from Buffalo Bore for my late wife's Berettas

[@somedudeinminnesota]

Awesome stuff man.

[@mtower235]

Good stuff

[@PatRMG]

Minus the rifling, I'd wager those could be loaded and shot again!

[@kermitthefrog5926]

I wish they would make a 25 caliber pistol cartridge with the same case length as a 9mm (.750"). And make it really high pressure, I want 1200 fps with a 60 grain bullet. I want it in a pistol like the Bersa thunder with a single stack magazine, and a browning BDA pistol with a compact double stack magazine. Lastly, a Ruger 10-22 like rifle with drum mags and full auto switch. Basically, some automatic 22's that are a little more powerful with more reliable feeding with center-fire primers and rebated rims, which are more reliable in magazines than rimfire cartridges.

[@matthewmoore661]

Useful information. Thanks.

[@BrianReno-qy9wk]

Polish the feed ramp and you won't have feed problems. A Dremel and flitz works the best

[@user-cd5xd8et7q]

Excellent test! But I wonder if you shot a single 2×4 if it would go through? The gel was impressive but I would rather carry the 380

[@AA-dn8dj]

Very cool!

[@voxfan7403]

Great penetration given the IWBC specified a minimum of 12.5 inches in bare gel.

[@kevanhubbard9673]

We had a little .25 of West German,as was, manufacture but I can't remember what the company that made it was called.I always found the .25 a bit of a better penetrator than the .22 LR due to it's harder. bullets.

[@raymondpexton5440]

You dont use 2×4 with small calibers, you use quarter inch plywood then keep adding until they start not going through the wood

[@Brandi6666]

Love my sat night special Phoenix arms model raven🤘❤️🇺🇸

[@abee3515]

If you look at where the 25 hit it was in a knot and the 380 was in the grain. I do not like board tests get that same board and use a hatchet and chop it down the middle and you'll see. Beretta's are notoriously ammo picky. It would have been better if you fired the 380 in the gel as well.

[@tomsherwood4650]

I had feeding issues with a little Beretta DA that replace the SA 25. The jump from the mag to feed ramp is longer on the DA gun. It also did not like the 35gr HP types at all. Jammed them as compared to the SA Beretta.

[@kensetches2276]

I shot 28 rounds through my SA Jetfire (950B) today without any sort of failure. I know that's not a lot, but they costs $2.50 per round! Anyhow, you can tell that these are more powerful loads than your typical 25 round. For that reason, I wouldn't shoot a ton of these bullets through an alloy frame gun like the Jetfire. These are point and shoot guns, so a lot of target practice beyond function tests isn't necessary anyhow.

[@nicholas389]

Your comment said you have a Jetfire that's made of a metal alloy? It's been 4 months but I assume you'll get notified of my comment. Did you get any damage from the 60 grain? I ordered some for my Raven arms and it's Zinc Alloy. I'm curious if I'm going to break my gun.

[@tomsherwood4650]

I got several 25s mainly as collectibles or nostalgic toys in the case of a Raven. I wish I had kept the little Beretta I had now that this is out. But I will price this stuff, bet it is too steep for practice. Since you don't get expansion in a 25, the flat nose profile helps.

[@ronaldwells4427]

Sounds like the fmj fed 100% while the lead had problems?? (Lots of racking sounds there.)

[@cbroz7492]

Hard cast bullets penetrative deeper than standard ball rounds

[@setituptoblowitup]

Was there a malfunction on the first string of BB ?

[@johnwilliams40]

The flatpoint delivers a deadly wound so expansion not needed!

[@abee3515]

I think the buffalo bore .25 fmj while slightly slower than the hard cast would likely penetrate better than the solid lead. But I was actually impressed by that lead 25 denting that second board.

[@professorpewpuew]

I am too. I did eventually post a gel test on the BB FMJ load. It has 100 feet per second on old school loads but not much more in terms of penetration.

[@terryfowler6090]

.25s have always been more effective than the "experts" would ever admit.

[@DickTickles]

I'll give you credit in testing a .25 ammo that I don't think anyone else ever has. I will say that so long as the ammo is reliable in cycling and feeding in someone's pistol, it should be considered, but still the proper target in a defensive situation would be as Paul Harrell says with small calibers is the head, face, and neck. I'd still rather carry a .32 tho.

[@professorpewpuew]

Yeah and that is especially important when its an old design that is made around ball ammo. I had one failure to feed with these. I think Buffalo's 50 grain FMJ load might be the ticket for a future test.

[@glennsammon4465]

looks like BB made a 25 into a 32. the bullet weight, and speed is close to what you get from a Tomcat. I do wonder if this load is safe in my 950bs. if it is then it is going to be used alot. PSA says not to put these in their 25 auto.

[@atharvatoskar1633]

will those high load ammo work well in baby browning?

[@allamzalla]

como faz falta o livre mercado, quertia ter acesso a essas de 60gr, no br so existe com 50gr

[@elberttanner6189]

Might need a stronger magazine spring.

[@danhogan7629]

Wonder if the Raven can handle this round

[@BTinsley1992]

Me and you wondering the same thing. I already bought 2 boxes for 100 before I read the fine print and saw it was for steel framed 25s

[@BTinsley1992]

Do you think these would act as a +P pressure wise in a pot metal Raven? Or it'll hold up?

[@crspartans117kilibreaux8]

The Raven barrel is steel. Since no .25s use a locking barrel, they're all the same in terms of the action cycling.

[@BTinsley1992]

@@crspartans117kilibreaux8 zinc alloy. Pot metal. Raven MP-25

[@ivan1982ize]

Не знал что 25АСР так много пробивает, эта же человека насквозь пробьет.

[@Desperado3248]

Bullet actually weighs closer to 55 gr,,is made by Rim Rock. That is what they list it as

[@AK-ky3ou]

The bear country load for those carrying a 25 acp.

[@robertbairt9094]

Looks like Yellow Pine. Much harder than soft White Pine studs!!!

[@Horned1]

Wondering how this will do in my bauer?

[@atharvatoskar1633]

will those high load ammo work well in baby browning?

[@M.M.83-U]

Wonderfull!

[@franzputsch254]

How cute! (a little hot for my Astra Hope ,,though)

[@GoonLife___]

Where can I get this ammo ?

[@southerncrossvids]

Is that a 21A ? Can you tell me if this ammo runs in a Jetfire 950 BS?

[@professorpewpuew]

It is a 21A. It will be safe to shoot but the flat point might not agree with the feed ramp of your pistol. Best test it first.

[@southerncrossvids]

@@professorpewpuew I purchased 2 boxes of it. That ammo does NOT fit into the tip up barrel of my Jetfire, it doesnt sit flush, thus preventing the breach from being closed. Buffalo Bore says my pistol must be out of wack, I'm trying to find someone with a Jetfire to tell me if it's the ammo or my gun. Thanks for replying

[@raymondpexton5440]

Try using half inch plywood

[@southerncrossvids]

Do NOT purchase this ammunition for a Beretta Jetfire 950 BS. The round does NOT seat properly.

[@abee3515]

eye protection

[@raymondpexton5440]

Missed .32acp

[@Gieszkanne]

Very far back in time Walther once offered the PPK also in 6,35/25 ACP. But only around 500 were made and they are very expensive collector items now. A pistol this size with that kind of 25 ACP loads would be very nice. But I dont think that any manufacturer will try that to bring out a new 25 ACP. This is quite a dying caliber with no demand.

[@mcb2757]

wtf is the point of hard cast 25 acp?

[@professorpewpuew]

There isn't much penetration with a 25. Going hard cast, heavy for caliber, and pushing it a little faster is so you can get as much as possible.

[@FoulPet]

So they can make $2 a round off people not smart enough to carry a 380 or 9mm.

[@Dee-yc9ck]

Show some gd respect ​@@FoulPet

[@normanphair8488]

That looks like hard treated Pine

[@Freeflorida123]

That’s a hard 2x4

[@ManuelGarcia-hm9tx]

Eye protection is a must when shooting

[@user-qk1kc3sl6o]

25 Buffalo bore auto

[@gdgamer0636]

380s hit! people don’t know! 💯 😂

[@goateecusbilly1823]

Almost 72$ for a box of 20 to ship to me in Florida 😂😂😂 wtf

[@jasonsliger5430]

Is your life worth $72.00?

[@goateecusbilly1823]

@@jasonsliger5430 that's a profoundly stupid question.

[@poppashots994]

Hard cast... what are you shooting a tough rat, a harden squirrel 😂

[@charliewebb9173]

First time seeing a flinch with a baby gun….

[@timhallas4275]

Sell the overpriced Baretta and get yourself a more reliable $175 Phoenix Arms 25 acp.

[@macriggland6526]

I wouldn’t do this if I were you.

[@joshualouis1448]

Why?

[@BrianReno-qy9wk]

Polish the feed ramp and you won't have feed problems. A Dremel and flitz works the best