25 Subtle Differences between Super Mario Maker 2 and SMM1 (1/4)

[@LooygiBros]

Part 2 is out, showing 20 other subtle differences! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZOsp5uVociNo5Y

[@usluc]

Ello

[@usluc]

Meh iz big moch like u

[@spynyi]

I watched part 2 before part 1

[@olgadeluca4476]

Forza Italia

[@Dorpington]

Could you just list them? That would be a lot faster for everyone than watching 20 minutes of video.

[@PotatNetflix]

Ironic for the flag to be unable to be diagonal in the game with slopes

[@iwest6256]

It’s actually because if turned diagonally, the bottom wouldn’t line up with the slope.

[@smolbrendan5978]

@@iwest6256 That's not really an excuse though because bullet bill launchers and cannons don't line up with the slopes yet they still act the same. Steep slopes and the diagonal checkpoint look like they have the same rotation. Besides, all they would have to do is put the checkpoint further into the slope like at 2:11. Look here, the checkpoint is going _inside_ of that solid block, not on the direct edge! If you're gonna say that the issue is with the gentle slopes, then they could just add more rotation options.

[@donttrythis44]

I thought this exact same thing

[@straandrbr2674]

"A soul for a soul"

[@felixroux]

That's not how irony works.

[@softestcat]

SMM1: No Slopes, diagonal checkpoints. SMM2: Slopes are added, no diagonal checkpoints.

[@joao2479]

*l o g i c*

[@mepnet]

That's what I call.. Dissapointing.

[@toasturhztoastbunz896]

But even then, the diagonal checkpoints still won't line up with the slopes too well. Though, Nintendo could've easily just fixed that up.

[@leogrosso3318]

@Muse Suse because some people might WANT to

[@switchblade6]

A soul for a soul.

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

This is the perfect example of when you actually had to follow the ''If it ain't broken don't fix it''

[@AverageCatz]

@@NOOB4306i *82*

[@neetrain]

I believe they do follow it. Something could be broken in SSM1 mechanics so they fixed it.

[@christophero1496]

@neetrain tru, but also smm2 is way more broken in Many areas

[@JJRibbit]

They LITERALLY FIXED what was broken though!

[@problempixel-ian2663]

This is the real world so logic aplies but if it were about a mario aspect tgen it's the opposite

[@inkajoo]

Some of these changes are legit fixes but some of them make you wonder what they were thinking.

[@SorielHDTBers]

Roger Levy I know why you can’t do blox at the start. Multiplayer course world

[@tarynwinterholler3099]

The fact we can't stack pipes anymore is really stupid.

[@noelnotcole7940]

@@tarynwinterholler3099 pretty sure all the pipe changes were to remove glitches and level exploits

[@tarynwinterholler3099]

@@noelnotcole7940 yes, I know, but now one way pipes look ugly in levels and only one thing can come out a pipe now.

[@yourtickettoclowntownsir9048]

@@SorielHDTBers also because of all the cheap insta kills

[@moronribbons5774]

If we can't overlap pipes at least they could give us proper sprites so pipes look connected...

[@joao2479]

Yea dude. More than half of the changes suck.

[@axolotium]

you can kind of overlap pipes with a glitch called the Black Hole glitch. Edit: Lol I didn't know it would corrupt the levels, i haven't tried it yet, sorry

[@toasthead]

@Mahdi RANA how to make a one way pipe: Place the pipe facing down over a big enough space so you can't jump back in

[@subscribebecauseiwontmakea9550]

One way pipes are really easy just add a pipe one block off the ground or a pipe with a one way path and blocks on conveyors pushing you forward

[@giannistek1]

@@axolotium The black hole glitch makes your levels corrupt though

[@Gnarfledarf]

The removal of pipe stacking is so frustrating. I loved being able to hide secret rooms inside pipes. The inability to the starting area seems like it was supposed to prevent troll levels from instantly killing you, but they can still do that by simply dropping an enemy on you outside of the restricted area.

[@stinky_dookie]

I just think it was a change made for multiplayer, honestly. They couldve had a different way of starting multiplayer matches but whatever, it was their choice to make the game 10x more restrictive towards level creation.

[@ThatGuyThomas]

@@stinky_dookie That's what I was thinking

[@lovinglifedr]

Yes and no more naked pipes when you do that in smm1

[@MageOfDarkness69]

In SMM1, I overlapped a sideways pipe by the top of of a vertical pipe and I have my one-way pipe

[@burgerkingfries4941]

You wouldn't be able to upload it if it killed you at the start area lmao

[@UltraAryan10]

I like some of these but the checkpoint one is plain stupid. We NOW have slopes. Edit: Why could not they have just made checkpoints tilted if they are placed above slopes?

[@fpoon2543]

It's subtle differences

[@Hiustwui]

Vertical springboards, can kill Mario and ennemies in MM2. Not in MM1. We can't destroy brics in MM2 if you outside of pipe. This version is more die than MM1

[@tealdohr]

Im also annoyed you can't tilt flags. I always thought they looked nice

[@woomiiakarandomveemo5933]

Batabii People want their levels to look nice.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

Ultra Aryan 10 a lot of these mean many old levels would be unplayable

[@aloneprayer779]

The only thing I'm mad about is the half-way pipe thing. Really the most unneeded change

[@MiiUTheFirst]

Troll pipes.

[@CrebbiFR]

It was a bug, after all

[@exterminator9676]

@@CrebbiFR Nintendo themselves used half-way pipes though, admittedly they didn't use it to glitch the transition when you went back inside, but they used it for purely aesthetic reasons. Shame you still can't do it, overall I really enjoy the sequel much more than the original game but I hope in an update a few of these things from SMM1 are brought back.

[@spinninsword]

Yea me too man :(

[@ichamsakkar4249]

And you can't overlap conveyors on pipes, it was a great technique in smm1

[@RyanGotReal]

I don't know why, but I was hurt the most when enemies couldn't bounce on walls once thrown anymore.

[@russianbot2179]

I like it, makes throwing bombs at breakable bricks easier.

[@Tahngarthor]

This is a half-good half-bad change. sometimes the ricochet effect was annoying and unwanted but other times it was useful.

[@theentirecircus8490]

@@ryanatorgamingroblox r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@idk10635]

:)

[@balilobaludo7715]

-Did you get the slopes? -Yes... -What did that cost you? -Everything.

[@jinjeredge]

Goddamnit, you beat me to to it.

[@lourdes211]

Man...

[@NikoCubeRoot]

@@lourdes211 auojj

[@hxpe178]

balilo baludo Every- Single glitch

[@NikoCubeRoot]

@SupaSmashBruddas Ultimate P𐀌𐀌𐀌𐀌17

[@Josh-rf9qy]

Are you gonna talk about how the ground connects seamlessly to the beginning and end

[@mrgameguy13]

Yeah, it's a subtle but great change. It always annoyed me in SMM1.

[@Josh-rf9qy]

@@mrgameguy13 In the original to get past it I made a checkered starting line made with hard blocks and ? blocks.

[@Tob_ii]

THANK GOD SOMEONE NOTICED

[@johnwarosa2905]

I always used smb1 to get around that

[@flyingfish1138]

RedLuigi it hurt me so badly in the first one it’s probably the best change

[@sillyali]

5:11 ...unless you're in multiplayer.

[@allysson-zy8jj]

Kkkkkkkkkk

[@notmo.]

Almost all of these changes are negative :'(

[@philRacoindie]

Almost.

[@schmitt5476]

I mean, the sequel is still better, in my opinion

[@philRacoindie]

Yeah, almost everything is negative, but it doesn't mean that SMM2 is bad. Lots of crazy contraptions from SMM1 work similarly, if not, the same as SMM1 in SMM2.

[@theivoryguy2476]

Boo-hoo.

[@erinj071]

Moritz1508 but I like them

[@masked-feraligatr1094]

A lot of these just seem like accidental removals, or things which were accidentally removed when polishing.

[@garbagerat7316]

some of them were good like enemy bouncing

[@blackdot105]

@@garbagerat7316 And some were garbage like not being able to Spin Jump and hold a shell.

[@cachorro25]

Definitely not accidental. They are trying to minimize troll level design

[@everythingpony]

@@cachorro25 that wad the whole point , make ANY LEVEL YOU WANTED

[@cachorro25]

@@everythingpony Personally I prefer SMM without all the hot garbage

[@BluPen]

10:28 The answer is background!

[@quintencornelissen2274]

Lol

[@theblindingone7776]

You're not wrong.

[@cgzg277]

What about the chain chomp and the hammer bro?

[@theblindingone7776]

@@cgzg277 r/wooosh

[@tabbyswads2619]

Magic koopa lava thing hammer bro goomba bowser background

[@thekingslayer2178]

Bruh they basically destroyed any good uses the sideways trampoline had

[@hard_drive.system]

Actually, sideways trampolines will launch objects left or right depending if a power block is above, or below the trampoline. This can be utilized for unique puzzles.

[@thelibyanplzcomeback]

They probably did that to prevent trolls.

[@BernitaUT]

Super Mario maiker2💘💙💚💛💜🖤💝

[@whyne7452]

This made me feel like SMM2 is a stricter version of SMM

[@GobouLePoissonBoue]

And more realistic. *Bowser's weight is about 2 coins worth*

[@brachmindunsparce6044]

They wanted to decrease troll levels. That meant some things were removed.

[@gabeitches87]

@@brachmindunsparce6044 That makes no sense.

[@brachmindunsparce6044]

@@gabeitches87 No placing things on the start. Stuff like that.

[@Medachod]

@@brachmindunsparce6044 Then they can just, you know, *remove them* but hey, why not just ruin everyone's fun instead, hmm.

[@Re-Crix]

I noticed when comparing some of the enemies, Lava Bubble and Bloopers have a little cleaner sprite change in SMM2. The Cheep Cheep seemed to lose its shine in SMM2 at least when looking at this comparison. Lastly, some of the sprites in SMM2 have had their colors deepened or contrast raised a slight bit.

[@KLGB76]

Why do most of those differences feel like downgrades ?

[@gamecrusader6768]

Because they focused on downgrades instead of good changes

[@flameconvoy7424]

KLGB76 because they almost exclusively showed negative changes

[@Kevin-ep8sy]

Because they are

[@MandrakeGuy]

KLGB76 nintendo are way to strict to any glitch

[@sinecosine7493]

Webwood Main A lot of it is to stop troll level design which people complained for years. Now we have people complaining that the tricks used like instadeath at the start is a downgrade? Don’t forget we have switch blocks, a whole damn new style with another one most likely coming as DLC, Probably gonna be Galaxy. Better sound effect choice, easier to make changes to enemies/blocks you’ve placed and slopes?

[@chaos4395]

I'm really sad about most changes, they even removed an important tech in kaizo levels: the spinning grab was used so much

[@Matanumi]

A good reason to play mm1

[@enderallygolem]

I mean the NSMBU theme exists

[@thecreatoroflaziness]

The Ender Golem it’s not possible there too . They also removed the ability to get a tossback from walls, which caused the walljump with a spring or p switch .

[@MatthewMario]

Just go back to you're mm1 with *No sLOpES OR StoRY mODE*

[@ultrixsoma2736]

@@MatthewMario Honestly, Story Mode was just a bland replacement of the Event Courses.

[@DiamondAxolotl]

The majority of these changes only serve to make levels less interesting.

[@iamjohnporter67]

So you're not gonna acknowledge all of the new stuff?

[@TheButterscotchNinja]

@@iamjohnporter67 Why would you acknowledge additions made to the game that aren't mentioned in a video specifically talking about minor changes to the game? That doesn't make any bloody sense at all/

[@NintenJoeGamer]

@@TheButterscotchNinja I don't think you took his comment the right way at all

[@iamjohnporter67]

@@TheButterscotchNinja shut up

[@np4231]

iamjohnporter67 Fucking fool. The only thing you can say is shut up because you’re pathetic.

[@dnddude9652]

“We can’t set Checkpoint Flags diagonally anymore” WHEN WE GOT SLOPES?!

[@NintenJoeGamer]

I don't know why people keep saying this as if it is a valid point to make. It just makes ya'll sound dumb. The addition of slopes does not mean everything can be set diagonally

[@Prox1matic]

NintenJoeGamer Yes, while that may be true, one of the only things that could be set diagonally was the checkpoint flag, the others being tracks, arrows signs and cannons, so removing the ability to do that when slopes are in the game kinda defeats that purpose of the checkpoint flag.

[@Tahngarthor]

@@NintenJoeGamer It's not *bad* but it just seems silly. Granted the diagonal checkpoints had some glitches associated with them. But it is just weird that you can't do it anymore when it would have looked good with the 45 degree slopes.

[@NintenJoeGamer]

@@Tahngarthor Well if they had glitches associated with them then there's your answer. I know that's the lazy way of patching it but if you made something that didn't really do much different and you could do glitches from it, it makes sense that you'd rather just remove it and not fix it. Who knows, maybe they tried fixing it and they couldn't so they just got rid of it.

[@Tahngarthor]

@@NintenJoeGamer Also I know that some of these changes were made for the sake of multiplayer Some of these interactions may have had issue with multiple player characters around them and such, or may have been done to improve network performance.

[@noahmorales7665]

6:51 if you put a p switch or pow block anywhere above the question block, then the shellmet will go to the right

[@AlejoAirplane]

That's surprisingly simple

[@kingoreo7050]

Vertical springs work too

[@KLa35]

@@kingoreo7050 ok

[@caiomendes7689]

@@AlejoAirplane carl sagan 42 made a video testing this he even made a level based around it you should deffinetly watch it

[@rockypikmin4493]

Ceave

[@mushroomhead3619]

3:33 Omg that sounds exactly like the room cleared theme from Luigi's mansion!

[@VeryE69420]

@@IB729 Its Scarier When We Double It Up

[@LunarChris24]

Dumbest Changes imo: -Not being able to grab shells while spinning -Conveyor belts not overwriting any tiles they're placed on -Eggs not giving you anything -Not being able to pass through half blocked pipes -Non respawning items

[@somethingAccurate]

Or having to pay to even use the costumes you've unlocked

[@caiomendes7689]

The egg thing really made me sad there was tons of puzzles based on this mechanic in mm1 and now its all gone down the drain

[@GekTC]

I disagree with 3 of these. - Grabbing shells while spinning was actually a glitch in SMW, never meant to be a thing, which is why it IS possible in the NSMB U style by simply spin jumping with a shell. - Not overwriting tiles can actually be helpful for careless placement. A maker could accidentally remove ground while placing conveyors and not notice it, and this helps fight those small, yet potentially crucial accidents. - Respawning items were almost always used to cheese levels where the maker forgot that was a thing, so this ends up resulting in less cheese from more level creators, while also making it easier to prevent item cheese itself.

[@borkybepis]

I think You can put items in eggs, i might of done it before so dont get so sad about it

[@Nattegoya]

Zeg Grabbing shells while spinning was a leftover from SMW, but it doesn’t make sense to just remove it entirely

[@John-ye3ij]

25 subtle changes. aaaaaaand most of them remove features from the original. That's sad.

[@Sonicjan]

Mechanics?

[@Hi-uv7nn]

They aren’t really that big changes just minor ones and it doesn’t matter because now we have better things

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@Hi-uv7nn There's absolutely nothing minor about that huge chunk of unuseable area at the start. Single screen stages are significantly more restrictive now.

[@user-jl7cz2pe6d]

@@thenonexistinghero They did that for multiplayer levels.

[@thenonexistinghero]

@Rad People can still make levels that kill you the moment you start. This doesn't prevent any of that crap from happening.

[@giftedwindybee579]

7:10 I’m Feeling The Beat

[@splegoon4289]

Some of these changes make SMM2 a downgrade in some aspects

[@gamecrusader6768]

Splegoon 4 that seems to be the focus of the video logs of good changes came in smm2

[@mynameismmandimheretosay7979]

Sad that they are, and if we fix them in some way they’ll count it as a glitch exploit and delete it.

[@falcon5178]

*change some stuff and sell it for full price*

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

I disagree.

[@bumpkinbee1524]

*most

[@nj4774]

5:09 perfectly balanced as all things should be

[@David-ro9cb]

I WILL SHREK THIS UNIVERSE DOWN TO IT'S LAST ATOM

[@doggoonmac8928]

REALITY IS QUITE DONKEYPOINTING

[@vyor8837]

removed power up checking though.

[@oneup117gaming4]

@@vyor8837 you ruined the reply chain

[@megalampada2372]

@@David-ro9cb LOL

[@jongandee4876]

Got a Mario Maker 2 ad on this video.

[@Jpeg.g]

Almost like they advertise things bases in your preferences 🤔

[@countgeekd]

Yeah I was watching among us and got an among us ad- really makes you think...

[@DiamondJake5623]

im

[@Escanimations]

LOL

[@oofman2497]

Cool

[@deoxysoverlord8710]

Robot Voice: P Switch P Switch P Switch Yoshi Egg Yoshi Egg Yoshi Egg COVEYABEL

[@rockypikmin4493]

Iron block

[@田-r6k]

Momma bubble

[@ldbonq]

"PORG BLOCK!"

[@7pkmnv805]

"Spike trout"--

[@Firefanged]

Nintend0 Sw1tch hiiiiii

[@Seven-ol5ed]

SMM1: Redstone of Minecraft Java edition SMM2: Redstone of Minecraft Bedrock edtion

[@AnonYmous-tx5gc]

lol true

[@3hoodies]

Bed...rock...?

[@kaiden8876]

@@3hoodies Basically a synonymous word for the console, windows 10 and mobile versions of Minecraft

[@3hoodies]

@@kaiden8876 sorry To me it's the vocabulary website

[@legitimate8463]

@@kaiden8876 all apart from pc/laptop/computer

[@bungus8609]

5:59, the transition was so smooth from the bomb to the galoomba that i genuinely thought the bomb turned into one

[@ThePikminCaptain]

It’s galoomba

[@someone58932]

Slopes, but 4 of the Checkpoint Rotations were sacrificed for it

[@switchblade6]

A soul for a soul.

[@someone58932]

@@switchblade6 seems reasonable

[@SapphireSolstice67]

Did you do it? Yes. What did it cost? Diagonal Bois.

[@someone58932]

@@SapphireSolstice67 this is nintendo in a nutshell

[@Eternalwarpuppy]

The biggest problems with SMM2 are not being able to edit downloaded levels and no bookmark site for SMM2.

[@jacob-qw1de]

Yeah but these are 'subtle' differences

[@thechugg4372]

@@jacob-qw1de Those differences like overlapping pipe aren't "subtle" to most creators, so we can include downloads

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Eternalwarpuppy yes

[@anime30seconds88]

editing downloaded levels is stealing

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Triforce44 They wouldn’t allow you to publish them if they did allow looking at the Editor Of other levels as it would be a way to see how people did things

[@TheAdvertisement]

5:07 So it’s a miscarriage? That’s depressing.

[@theblindingone7776]

My god, you're everywhere.

[@nixel1324]

So basically, aside from the red coin sounds and the ceiling P switches, this is a list of things that are worse in SMM2?

[@gabeitches87]

Pretty much.

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

Better. Not worse.

[@pillowtalk__]

@@Seth_Hezekiah nah, a lot of them are rather worse, at least slightly

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

@@pillowtalk__ I didn't see 1 thing that I wasn't happy was gone. I don't like cheesy glitches and stuff like that.

[@pillowtalk__]

@@Seth_Hezekiah its not about the glitches it's about the options people have in going about foing things, like contraptions, or being able to put those one ways on pipes, sure they could just lift it off the ground but they spent time deciding whether or not they shouldn't let people do it or not and they decided they should limit creators' options, albeit minimally.

[@stephwillingham5558]

Yoshi dies by turning into absolutely nothing

[@joao2479]

Thanos affected the eggs

[@dicksonZero]

@@sipp4727 underrated comment!

[@switchblade6]

@@sipp4727 oh no

[@equinox7501]

That actually sounds very scary.

[@Evilnicko]

Idk should’ve paid his taxes

[@giftedwindybee579]

7:10 You Actually Made The Song Really Good

[@sirk603]

1:50 I’m assuming this is because multiplayer versus and co op

[@mparagames]

It probably is.

[@jaxsterminator8634]

And it's because of trolling.

[@Nuclearburrit0]

RIP auto levels

[@sirk603]

Nucularburrito2 they work. You can put a bullet blaster above the thing and it will fall. Or a spring right above the player. Don’t know any other ways tho

[@Kayso789]

I think it's because of trolling

[@pointelove3017]

So in a lot of cases smm1 had better mechanics imo

[@GanduriS]

No it’s lmao

[@emmamorris5696]

@@GanduriS imo means in my opinion :)

[@niels4473]

swati vinay *big facepalm

[@nicholas.alan85]

Omg 😂😂😂

[@hahahanijeukradeno1008]

Yep

[@JeremyBX]

You gotta love those fake Mario Maker 2 Mobile Ads

[@DarkEXE]

Same

[@christopherbrown5119]

Jeremy Boateng yep...

[@aagh8714]

i love supper mario

[@satyman08]

oh yeah

[@-biggs-5696]

You saw them too?

[@AnneIglesias]

I understand that some of these have to do with added gameplay aspects. Like not being able to build behind the starting line so that it doesn’t affect the countdown to a multiplayer race. If there is anything missing that actually makes me sad, it’s probably the overlapping pipes. It just looked nice design-wise.

[@jaredhoeft2832]

Also it allowed for things like a pipe that goes somewhere different when you reenter it. That's something I used a lot in MM1

[@capsulecyanure]

5:10 There is a four players mode in SMM2, isn't it ? Why can't we have four Yoshies, then ?

[@NomeCreativo]

Nobody yet discovered that you can add power-ups INSIDE checkpoints?

[@MarioFan587YT]

Yes, they did, but no one cares. Some levels want you to be small anyway

[@luuthienan2703]

You would discover it by playing story mode anyway

[@federicocapacci7175]

@@luuthienan2703 in the very first level 😂

[@vuice6601]

uh, no...

[@gonderage]

The title said subtle changes.

[@nowonmetube]

Actually changes that make less possibilities. So bad for puzzle and troll or even Kaizo levels :(

[@NaOkii]

I mostly agree, but troll levels can die.

[@rynabuns]

SMM2: We’ve added so much new stuff! ON/OFF switches, twisters, see-saws, even a new game mode! People: yeah but now we can’t make the exact same levels we’ve made in SMM1 :(

[@rawsom6992]

@@rynabuns If people want to make the same kind of levels let them. If they reduce creativity in one area only to improve it in another they're still reducing the total amount of creativity possible.

[@cleanseroftheworld]

@@rawsom6992 nah, it just depends on the amount limited vs gained. Tbh, nothing here seems to break my creativity and some of these limitations make it less overwhelming from a design perspective.

[@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713]

Raw som so if i give birth to one person and kill 20 others i’m still increasing the total amount of life in the world? getting rid of little things and adding a bunch of new stuff certainly doesn’t “reduce the total amount of creativity.”

[@Ever_animatezzz]

5:42 I just love the sounds 😋

[@dziewiatka_official]

Cake in your pfp... it means i give u sub

[@filipklominek3527]

6:51 They bounce to the right, if the spring falls from the top and a loaded pow block/P-switch/regular spring is above them.

[@田-r6k]

-did you learn that from ceeeeeeeeeeaaaaveeee?-

[@GuyFromSomeWorld]

@@田-r6k That, or he watches CarlSagan42, or he just played the Uno Más level and discovered that

[@Firefanged]

Nintend0 Sw1tch yay

[@MegAmi24]

7:43 WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME ABOUT THIS

[@aspenpawarts9333]

The name Looygi: Exists This channel: *laughs in mario*

[@tahsinshabab4530]

Don't like the fact that they removed some of the tech

[@ingemar8211]

But how big of a difference will it really make?

[@Vaylon.]

@@ingemar8211 Yeah so removing the spin grab will definitely be bad in terms of smw kaizo levels, but i guess the dry bones shell kind of makes up for it

[@ingemar8211]

@@Vaylon. I see what you're saying but imo the fact the spin jump wit shell has beeen kinda replaced by dry bones shell is a good thing. It is the sequel after all!

[@GuyFromSomeWorld]

I'm perfectly happy with them removing the mid-air shell-jump (even if people did discover another way to do it... which was possible in SMM1, too, if I remember correctly)

[@Vaylon.]

@@GuyFromSomeWorld I was certainly annoying if it ended up in your super expert playlist, but again, for kaizo levels, any tech is valuable

[@BobbyJCFHvLichtenstein]

MM1: can do more technical stuff MM2: that stuff is gone, but there's more items and themes!

[@enderallygolem]

On-Off blocks pretty much makes anything technical 10 times easier

[@Hi-uv7nn]

Wow your hilarious

[@Cyrus_got_verified]

Ikr

[@Stratelier]

Some of the tweaks you may have to work around in certain cases (a big one for two of my levels was the new overlap rules regarding pipes and one-way blocks), but overall they're not "bad", just different. For example, if you make a boss room where you have to defeat a Giant Bowser using only shells or bob-ombs, it's actually a lot better that they now do 3pts damage instead of 1!

[@1un4cy]

There's a lot cut out too so it's about even, it simply has new things not more things.

[@minterstellarr]

I liked how the voices sang to the music while saying whatever you placed Like this 1:34

[@GameFrank]

Great comparison! Too bad a lot of the changes weren't great. Still loving MM2 regardless!!

[@minimik75]

you should've just made "nothing can overlap pipes in SMM2" as one instead of multiple differences

[@phana0071]

5:43 wait "throwable enemies *bounced* on walls?"

[@anaj.fernandez4544]

Yep

[@ximer612]

In SMM1: We can In SMM2: We can't

[@Hexagon42]

9:23 Oh thank you for specifying i thought they were added by EA

[@minecraftgaming7879]

Course Editor $19.99 Saving courses $9.99 Course world $49.99

[@crunch.dot.73]

Super Mario Bowser's Castle Theme $4.99 (Purchase is good for a single level)

[@valiko.]

"It's in the game"

[@rockypikmin4493]

Ok salty

[@GobouLePoissonBoue]

Imagine Nintendo and EA working on Mario Maker 3. Nintendo : Okay we need to think about features. EA : Why not making Course World 9$99? Nintendo : Uhhhh... I meant new features, like you know, putting more items from previous gam- EA : That would cost 4$99? Nintendo : No way ! We need the player having enough fun with the game, without paying ! EA : Oh I see. Why not making the game free? Nintendo : Hell no we are gonna lose money and- EA : But the editor costs 29$99 with a premium edition adding useless skins for enemies for 49$99. Nintendo : ... EA : Good? Nintendo : You're hired.

[@tf2_enginnerVR]

I just want to say tbat you make good content. I appreciate it you are the best youtuber ever. I hope you get lots of subs in the future

[@Stratelier]

#2 and #11 are part of a broader update to the editor's overlap rules just in general. For example, red coins can no longer be hidden behind certain kinds of objects (Munchers, etc). #4(a) is primarily for the multiplayer support, but it also reduces certain kinds of trolling (e.g. immediately kicking the player off the start location, such as by partially walling it off, or by dropping a horizontal spring on them). #4(b) - SMM2's start ground is also now widened to 7 tiles wide (Mario still starts on tile 5, which is no longer the corner). #5 is related to checkpoints originally being a variation on the arrow signs in SMM1. Various other items have been similarly separated from each other in SMM2. #5(b) - Checkpoints no longer automatically turn Small Mario into Super Mario (instead, you can attach a powerup to them directly). This means certain level types (e.g. "Super Mario vs. Mecha Bowzilla") no longer have to add a forced hit after a checkpoint. #7 is related to #4, as building over the start area was the primary way to get Mario inside Ground tiles to begin with. #8 and #16 are actually the same: depending on what object is on top of the block, this can prevent its contents from spawning at all. #10(b) - In SMM1, hit detection if running atop spikes was slightly asymmetrical (i.e. you took damage sooner if approaching spikes from, I believe, the left side) #24 - Piranha Plants can also be attached to ceilings now. And now for some additional subtle details: * - Warp pipes are always the same color on both ends (if you change one end, the other changes to match). * - Enemies set as a clear condition do not respawn after being defeated (i.e. if you leave/re-enter the room). * - When bouncing a (vertical) Thwomp off of a Buzzy helmet, in SMM2 it returns to neutral status (in SMM1 it continued falling/bouncing). This is likely due to the addition of horizontal Thwomps. * - In SMW style, if you are wearing a Buzzy helmet, toss a shell upwards, then bounce it off of your helmet on the way down, in SMM1 it could still deal damage to any enemies it falls on, but in SMM2 it will not. * - Bowser takes more damage from attacks other than fireballs (now 3pts instead of 1), making certain types of boss encounters less repetitive. * - In some level themes, a pipe that is attached to Ground tiles will now extend 1/2 tile into said ground, perhaps due to many Ground tiles having rounded corners.

[@Stratelier]

#7 - On further reflection, I'm now certain this is DIRECTLY related to the new On/Off blocks, since it's trivial to make a contraption where Mario can get stuck inside them.

[@dekuparadox5972]

really. Most of these changes are negatives. I'm pretty angry about the fact that you can't overlap pipes anymore! Plus Mario's swimming animation makes it look like his neck broke.

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

I didn't see a single negative change.

[@JayAreAitch]

Daniel Baker Diagonal checkpoints

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

@@JayAreAitch yea, those things that made it awkward when you died and had to restart from them and was used in glitches. Glad those are gone.

[@DLBBALL]

Oh well, they’re negative if you enjoy having impossible Kaizo levels for you to beat.

[@JayAreAitch]

@@DLBBALL Hope you're not suggesting that such levels don't exist in SMM2...

[@stormstargd247]

Found 4 differences and it’s the Bowser and Hammer Bro Standing Positions , Background and the play button

[@suyaonsiomai]

I don't even play smm but it makes me sad that they removed things that gives the game more possibilities

[@Snukkuri]

SMM1 Mario: *Dies from spikes below platform* SMM2 Mario: *Walks on the spikes below platform like god*

[@Shady_Inktail]

I see no god up here... EXCEPT ME

[@mynameismmandimheretosay7979]

*I see no god up here...EXCEPT FOR’A’ME, MAHDIO!

[@bluemike1215]

They should've change that to the SAME!!!!!!!

[@ElevenPaces]

This makes me feel like Nintendo developers were watching streamers play kaizo and puzzle levels...and then deliberately removed all of the mechanics they were using 😅

[@somerandomhandle]

so smm2 was more fun and not so hard?

[@THawkMedia]

@@somerandomhandle well now 2 is just filled with enemy spams and "music" levels that just use gusty garden galaxy

[@somerandomhandle]

@@THawkMedia ye

[@Cabecool10]

On 25 the Lava Bubble’s texture was updated and, in my opinion, looks much better and cleaner.

[@switchblade6]

Yeah the graphics are much more polished

[@nowonmetube]

Indeed, spotted that too

[@WaterKirinGamer]

8:37 That change in the water level for U's style is one of the few of these changes that are better in Mario Maker 2

[@liamgoshdanglewis873]

Dhruv Patel but the last one was a bit more accurate to the original.

[@user-tk1vz6lh8y]

In the smm1 Mario's pose more looks like Mario's pose from nsmbWii

[@crimsongoldfish]

7:09 that beat though

[@DKomnicide]

Having no shell holding spin jumps is not a subtle difference

[@NintenJoeGamer]

I mean, it really only affects people who do kaizo levels and junk so most people probably didn't even realize. I didn't even know you could do that in mm1

[@ashtonsmith1730]

i assume you never played/saw someone else play a kazio level

[@corruptedleaf3282]

This has been fixed in update 1 2.0.0

[@DKomnicide]

Ivan Rivera when did that come out

[@drewlmao]

Why can’t you set the checkpoint diagonally in the game that actually has slopes? Edit: i just realized this is a common comment whoops

[@Stratelier]

Maybe because of how the checkpoint flag was originally added as a variation of the 8-way arrow sign? (Which was preserved on the 3DS despite them being separated)

[@Robo2k_]

Separate name: 25 reasons why SMM1 is better than SMM2

[@nonosquarejpeg]

The outline of the pipe in SMM2 is slightly different.

[@GuyFromSomeWorld]

Yeah, most of the shades are different.

[@GamingHobo965]

My conclusion from this: SMM1 Had a lot of really good fucking features they removed in SMM2

[@beetrootsoup3130]

We can't interact with the letters in the title screen (╯︵╰,)

[@Escanimations]

@@beetrootsoup3130 yeap

[@Gone._.]

Except the walking on spike full semisolids. That’s actually good

[@Gone._.]

@Ok It could make good level design

[@Gone._.]

@Ok ;)

[@Tahngarthor]

"Lets do whatever we can to limit players from making insane kaizo levels" Though the cieling P switch thing is kinda nice.

[@vyor8837]

Players: Makes kaizo levels anyway and they're even harder because of nintendo removing things.

[@Tahngarthor]

@@vyor8837 Thus proving it was pointless to try to "defeat" attempts to make "troll" levels like that. Super Mario Maker 2 proves why most of us shouldn't be career level designers- but it's about having fun and this is wh y there are different difficulty level queues

[@Tahngarthor]

I'd say the biggest issue out of all of them for me is removing something you could do in the original games. You could spin jump with items in Super Mario World, you could do it in the SMW style in SMM 1, but you can't do it in SMM2.

[@vyor8837]

@@Tahngarthor Agreed

[@izzy-artmusicvlogs1234]

I already broke the same-color streak for this reply section. Sorry.

[@OanSMM]

Could you make a side by side comparison between the backgrounds from the 2 mario maker games ?

[@knux4000]

Oan_SMM could you learn your English better

[@OanSMM]

@@knux4000 better now?

[@lol2fast323]

@@knux4000 rude

[@KLa35]

Yea Gavin that's rude

[@KLa35]

@@knux4000 Jerk

[@grantperez2918]

At least there are a few nice changes... *WHERE ARE THE AMIIBO COSTUMES, NINTENDO...?!*

[@anthonythegamer1528]

Same😠

[@anthonythegamer1528]

@@ResearchEnjoyer No the other characters

[@ResearchEnjoyer]

@@anthonythegamer1528 my fault entirely, I was trying to point out that the weird mushroom was also left out

[@anthonythegamer1528]

@@ResearchEnjoyer sure 🤔

[@sweetstar8435]

🥺

[@mr80s81]

hopefully they add some of the old features from SMM1 into this

[@tyresr]

Good way to present these changes, nice vid!

[@thatunknowndoot]

I’m just glad ground perfectly seams together with the start and end

[@flameflareonog]

Not being allowed to overlap pipes is one of the most unforgivable things Nintendo did

[@Stratelier]

How so? Do you have a level where you legit cannot find an alternative construct?

[@smallpondgamers2832]

"let's a go" * click*" "let's a go" * click* "let's a go" * click* "let's a go" * click* "let's a go" * click*

[@Escanimations]

L E T S A G O

[@agentm4063]

@@Escanimations C L I K

[@Escanimations]

@@agentm4063 *L* *E* *T* *S* *A* *G* *O*

[@agentm4063]

@@Escanimations C L I C K

[@Escanimations]

@@agentm4063 LETSAGO

[@Bacon-zx4cg]

I hope They Can add back the old features back just simple

[@Elias-dx4dc]

Or a simple update, no need to pay

[@Epsi_Cron]

26: We can’t make custom sound effects in SMM2

[@Epsi_Cron]

27: The mystery mushroom and weird mushroom can’t be earned

[@shaggy-2]

@@Epsi_Cron it’s subtle not obvious

[@dr.whippersnapper5482]

When you see those supper Mario maker 2 ads for mobile(2 p’s)

[@shinysilverstardust]

Those are the people nintendo should sue, not rom hackers

[@nitsuj8100]

@shinysilverstardust I know. Sad to see the obvious scam actually stay on the internet while harmless rom hackers get banned for changing a game to make it more unique... :(

[@dr.whippersnapper5482]

Bopitty Boopy and it’s never for profit

[@AffyMoon]

Ikr If Nintendo and KZbin share one thing in common it's having a terrible concept of who are 'stealing their property' and who are not,In Nintendo's case fan game creators are, well just fans wanting more without pressuring the creator themselves/making people who can't afford newer games a worse but still good version,(While the actual scammers relax as they get ignored. And in KZbin's case, they refuse to decrease the pay of millionaires and instead DEMONetize(because it's terrible) small content creators just making videos for a living and for the entertainment of everyone. And then there are other people (e.g. I'll give Scott Cawthon because he haS played many fan-games from FNAC TJOC and ONAF)support and even play other people's fan games

[@mclolflick4566]

Nintendo makes great games, but terrible business decisions.

[@SergeantSnivy_]

Some more changes: In Super Mario Bros., tracks have a different sprite. In Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. 3, Mario is now able to crouch while small. The Super Mario Bros. Airship theme, Super Mario Bros. Ghost House theme, and Super Mario Bros. 3 all received slight alterations to their music. This was likely done to make the music more accurate to the NES hardware. In Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. 3, the sound effects for collecting pink coins and entering key doors are different.

[@BubbledDEV]

6:49 Weirdly, it isn't always to the left. If there is a carryable item (say, a POW Block) one block or higher above the spring, then for some reason the shell will bounce to the right.

[@PkmariO64]

Not being able to overlap a pipe with a one-way wall is annoying because then you have to dedicate more space in a level to a pipe the creator doesn’t want you to re-enter. The “forbidden” area at the beginning of the level is also pretty annoying because it prevents you from using semi-solid platforms as a background throughout the _entire_ course.

[@Dopachen]

You cannot build at the "Spawn" area since there's the start WHEN that level gets picked in online-versus

[@vyor8837]

An easy fix: Able to toggle multiplayer on a level. Something that would fix like 70% of the game's multiplayer issues. The rest is just from absolutely shit performance.

[@couldntsetpass2901]

9:18 ah thanks for that "by Nintendo", i would've never been able to tell who added these decorations

[@flow185]

It will be hard without this

[@foiledagain1914]

Nah, man, somebody just kinda walked in and added them, and nintendo rolled with it.

[@burntoast9690]

“Super Limitations Maker” as I call it

[@lol-wt8cu]

lol lol

[@Kizaco]

S L O P E S

[@luigiplayeronegreen1211]

Kizako With apples slipes

[@KaizoM]

I never played SMM1 but watch these videos are so interesting.

[@juanmam.2113]

I havent played either of the games but this is still fun to watch

[@Thegoodgamerpro72jdq]

5:49 pure magic

[@Deman_Dema]

Just something most people won't care about. In SMM1 When you stay in the area behind the axe, Bowser will hop on the axe and then do a full jump that go over your head. In SMM2, Bowser will just walk down the axe first and then jump over your head. Leave only last 2 block for you to not get hit.

[@codieb5612]

His movement is random. He can do either in both games

[@Deman_Dema]

Codie B No this is the movement that not random. He did this 100% of the time in both game. But i forgot to mention that Im talking about Big Bowser in NSMB style.

[@klevmeister1g]

No one: SMM2: *kills their own tech*

[@thechugg4372]

Your forgot the big one, not being able to download level anymore, but I guess it is so big it deserves its own video.

[@NotAFrenchPerson]

4:26 all my smm1 levels were based around that feature

[@PieCreeper12]

Oof!

[@therainbowknight]

That's too bad

[@lisalanik2526]

so basically hot garbage?

[@sag6445]

Lisa Lanik like you?

[@NotAFrenchPerson]

@@lisalanik2526 I was gonna reply with a roast but, I've been told not to burn trash

[@ymireva3718]

Basically super Mario Maker 2: New stuff = Cool Changes in old stuff = dang terrible

[@gwenxel4434]

Thanks so much for making this.

[@jaredhoeft2832]

Despite the addition of various new items and stuff, level creation in Mario Maker 2 feels more constrained than Mario Maker 1, which is sad