270 vs 308: Which One Should You Hunt With?

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

To learn more about popular hunting calibers like the 270 and the .308 Winchester, visit: thebiggamehuntingblog.com/ebook

[@barktwid7057]

I shoot, hunt and reload a ton. I have owned. 257 robers, 25-06, 6.5x55, 7x57, 30-30, 32-40, 8x57, etc,etc. When people ask what caliber to purchase to hunt all but the biggest game in Canada I say .270, .308 or 30-06. You can't go wrong with any of them.

[@barebonesjones]

You forget 7.62x54 Great bear caliber

[@ericwalker8918]

@@barebonesjones ok, let’s look at it this way….. 7.62x54 = 30-06

[@danielbell4007]

@@barebonesjones great cartridge, but not as commercially available as the others.

[@reddawng43x91]

@@ericwalker8918 lol😂 was thinking same thing! Lol

[@reddawng43x91]

I agree with this ! If you want something shorter and lighter go with .308! If want a standard weighted gun and barrel length go with 30-06 all day every day! If you must be different-and difficult about these options then only other option is .270 ! Everything in between , below and or over these 3 calibers are either over gunned or under gunned imo

[@mcgovernoutdoors33]

270 all day long! My Savage Axis II with Accutrigger is absolutely great!! I sight mine in at 1.5-2 inches high at 100yds and I can just aim and shoot at anything out to 300yds without any compensation!

[@LovingIdaho]

Most my shots hunting are 200-400 yards . The 308 has never let me down . 270 ammo was to spendy compared to 308 . And after 30 years of shooting the 308 , I wont change to start over .

[@strat1080]

270 hunting ammo costs the same as 308. Sure you can find military surplus 308 loads that are cheaper but that’s pretty much just for plinking

[@satan4133]

270 cost the same as 308. Not sure what you mean by “ speedy “

[@Kman31ca]

That might be regional. In my part of the world (western Canada) I see just as much 270 for dirt cheap as 308.

[@BaconSlayer69]

The 270 has been around since the 1925 whereas the 308 has been around since 1952

[@roberthogarth6777]

308-win is works great in New Zealand, bush stalking and open tops ,pine hunting, red deer and sika ,boar . Good stopping power, animals bleed out nice ,big blood trails, not so much blood in meat after processed. I highly recommend the 308-win. Cheers Rob.

[@benturner9246]

What about the 270?

[@scottmcfadyen3094]

What sort of range are you getting with it here in nz.

[@happytrails5400]

I agreed with everything you said, right up to the point you started talking about long range hunting. (about the 20:46 mark) You even eluded to the difference in wound channel, which most people never talk about. You are correct in every point you spoke of. The only thing I don't like is long range hunting, aka; sniping. People don't think about the animal taking even a half of a step, bullet time in flight even if their aim was perfect, ha ha. It drives me crazy to see this crap on hunting shows. The sectional density and ballistic coefficient of a bullet are important. The SD and BC of a 6.5CM is outstanding, likewise the SD and BC of some of the .308 diameter bullets are good but not as good as the 6.5 bullets. I witnessed a ballistic gelatin test of a 6.5CM and a .308 WIN. I was surprised to see that the .308 did penetrate ever so slightly deeper. Here's the part that I was sure of, the wound channel of the .308 was easily twice that of the 6.5. Don't get me wrong, I do like the 6.5CM and it does have a small advantage, less recoil, bangs steel at longer ranges. It doesn't go sub-sonic, with some loads till it reaches approximately 1,200 yards. It slips through the air with the greatest of ease, blah, blah, blah. Here's the thing, if you poke a hole through the lungs of any animal, that animal will die.

[@Rubicon1776]

.308 for the win. You can split hairs over marginal external/terminal ballistic advantages between one cartridge over another but you can’t deny the practical advantages of the .308 Winchester over all of these mentioned and many not mentioned. 1. It’s plenty adequate when compared to any of them both in external and terminal ballistics 2. It’s most available in any ammo crisis situation 3. It’s the most cost effective 4. Available in all rifle platforms, Auto, Semiauto, bolt action, break action, pump action, lever action

[@The_Hawk0001]

Agreed. However I Would Take .270 Because Of Less Drop Downrange

[@triptre3638]

My experience….. Both 270 and .308 are outstanding for long range take downs and power! 270 I’d use for wide open shots and .308 for long range with brush included. 270 will hit in brush and ricochet. 308 punches through brush and still make a spot on hit! 270 is just a bit faster….. All in all, they both are King for me for hunting and will take out anything in the U.S. with four legs! Have fun out there and use for your liking and use consideration what your shooting at wide open or brush!

[@michaelbosisto6259]

Pick one, practice at different ranges and positions until it becomes muscle memory. I also practice at home with snap caps when the weather isn’t favorable to go out and shoot. Both are very capable of taking many of North America’s game of choice.

[@Prairie7777]

A very good review on both calibers/cartridges. I have hunted with both calibers and love them both. I presently have four rifles in .308 Win. and four rifles in .270 Win. Each and every one is a tack driver and I've taken game from mule deer, elk, blacktail deer, moose and caribou with both calibers. Both are very effeciant and I recommend them both. With either one you can't go wrong!

[@papatorr3669]

Now that I'm older, I find the 308 recoil acceptable, and have sold my 270, 30-06, 300WM

[@Humanempires]

308 is best for almost every situation in hunting even if you are a beginner.

[@biggsy..215]

Big game in Australia the smallest Calibre is .30 cal for example Buffalo. In the northern Territory.

[@alphadogpredators]

.270 💪

[@concernedaussie1330]

270 is my favourite of the two. Never needed a 308 , but I know it gets the job done . The 270 really hits hard & just works . With faster twist barrels & higher bc bullets that are just making an appearance on the scene the 270 will leave the 308 in it’s dust down range . Also I believe nice 140gr bullets give the best performance in the 270 .

[@danielaramburo7648]

Is the recoil the same?

[@daveyboy6985]

apparently from most shooters The 270 gives more snap, whereas the 308 gives push. But really are very similar.

[@aaronbrown9156]

I use 140 gn hand loads in my 270, it’s a tack driver.

[@Dannyedelman4231]

very interesting and informative my very first "big" rifle to purchase was a marlin xs7 chambered in 308 very light and really smooth when firing and it can handle both 308win and 7.62×51

[@michaelreardon7667]

Typical hunting ranges from 50yds to 350yds ( ethically) so, it really makes little difference which of these rounds you utilize

[@chadh7005]

"Ethicals" depends on how you shoot. It's opinion based. It's not factual. I've seen and have shot game farther than that and they didn't move much. I've also seem people hunt with 338 mags at 150 yards and take 5 shots to put down an animal. So it's way more on if you shoot much and placement vs trying to look down on someone cause your opinion.

[@hubertharmon]

Bottom line statement. It's a matter of preference.

[@lewie7820]

I love a 308.get your back straps every time . My brother is big on the 270. But he will tell you place your shot or you'll be doing a lot of blood trailing.. .

[@jimparker7778]

This is an East/West question. If you're hunting in a place where 350-400 yard shots are common, the .270 is your best bet. If you're hunting in creek bottoms and thickets, the 308 will suffice.

[@jamesfarmer63]

That's why I want a AR-10 in a 308 caliber as a battle riffel & maybe use it for hunting rifle too, but I normally use my 45-70 & my 338LM for mid to large dangerous game

[@crawford323]

The rage, it seems, is the 6.5 PRC for very good reasons. However, the 270 despite having a lower bc is no slacker and holds its own with the 308 and the new kid on the block at 500 yards and less. I need to stop drooling and appreciate what I have in my gun safe. Being a lefty complicates the available gun choices too. I need to lay cheek to wood and fondle the new trigger in my Remington 700 BDL and send a few down range with renewed interest and respect. Thanks for helping get my head on straight and saving me a great amount of money........for now.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad you enjoyed it! The 270 is indeed a great cartridge. I'm not one to talk a person out of buying a new gun, but it sounds like there's not really a need to upgrade from your 270 unless you just want to!

[@falba1492]

I did the math, and the 6.5 PRC just doesn’t have enough of an advantage over the 270 Win. If anything, getting a barrel for your 270 with a better twist rate is more practical. Steyr’s twist rate on their 270 Win is 1:8.66”, few people know this.

[@BBulldog333]

Pretty sure that ballistic coefficient is a term that was invented by the inventors of the 6.5 Creedmoor as a marketing stunt. 😂

[@reddawng43x91]

7prc over 6.5 prc anyday

[@falba1492]

I prefer the 270 Win. The long action or short action argument doesn’t even hold a lot of water today, when you have manufacturers like Tikka, Mauser, Sauer, etc. reducing the cost of manufacturing, and just making one standard long action for all calibers. I love how flat shooting the 270 is, and would much prefer a 30-06 to a 3 not 6 lol.

[@strat1080]

I feel the same way. The 308 is pointless to me. I feel that the 7mm-08 is a better use of the 308 parent case

[@D-A-1776]

308 for me especially for bigger game

[@blackie1of4]

My preference is the 308 Winchester... only because I don't have a 270 Winchester :) Some how along the way I traded in my 30-06 Springfield for a low recoiling cartridge. The cartridge was the 7mm-08 Remington. I fell in love with the short action lightweight accuracy and low recoil. Then I read and read some more about how these cartridges are derived. So next firearm was a 308 Winchester... after that I thought to myself why not collect the whole family of the 308 Winchester. In the end I have the 358 Winchester, the 308 Winchester, the 7mm-08 Remington, and the 243 Winchester. I doubt I'll get the 260 Remington or the 338 Federal... but one never knows :)

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Haha, seems like you're heading in that direction with the whole 308 line! :)

[@archstanton9703]

Do you prefer the 7mm-08 over the 308? I'm thinking about buying a 7mm-08 for deer and elk. I was considering a 308 but already have an 30-06. Thanks!

[@blackie1of4]

@@archstanton9703 I wouldn't hesitate on using the 7mm-08 Remington on anything .. with the exception of grizzly bear. It's one fine pleasant shooting accurate for medium size game. Some will say a little light for elk.. but in my honest opinion so is the 270 Winchester the 280 Remington and the 6.5 Creedmoor. That's the four caliber bunch it falls into :)

[@falba1492]

@@archstanton9703 - If you’re looking for an elk gun, you already have it. The 30-06 with a 180 grain partition is an incredible load out to 400 yards. You’re not going to better that with either of the two calibers you mentioned. The 7mm-08 is a very nice low recoiling cartilage, especially for children. I think it’s an improved 7x57 Mauser.

[@falba1492]

Love that 338 Federal in heavy brush. Federal got together with Sako to develop that round. You see the occasional Tikka in that caliber.

[@PARR53]

I prefer the .308 any day but both are very capable of doing whatever you’d need them to do as far hunting is concerned. My love for the .308 comes more out of a background in long range shooting. Really love the 175gr Sierra Match King by Federal Gold Medal Match from my M24SWS. 😎

[@tylarhaugan7908]

I do wish 270 rifles came in 1 in 9 twist. Would love to use 165 accubonds in my 270 for elk

[@falba1492]

If I recall, you need a 1:8.5”minimum for the 165 Accubond.

[@tylarhaugan7908]

@@falba1492 you indeed are right

[@robertwolfe2971]

Buy an extra barrel.

[@paulrobberts1527]

Twist the damn thing get 1:8

[@trg3761]

Might as well use a 30-06

[@Marcusb338]

I had a 243, 270, 308 and 7mm rem mag. Now the only two I own are the 243 and 7mm. The .243 with 90gr projectiles for foxes and small deer. The 7mm with 140gr nosler Etips at 3200fps that will kill just about anything on earth and shoots flat to 500m with kick that most people can handle

[@jameslawrence1648]

How plentiful is the ammo you use, that’s pretty much my only concern in picking a good rifle

[@strat1080]

I’ve had a whole bunch of rifles in different calibers and I’ve settled on the 270 and 300 WM. I load 130 gr Partitions and Hornady Interlocks in my 22” 270 and get 3000 fps. That’s my go to load for just about everything. My 300 Win Mag is for situations where a little bit more is needed. I run 190 gr Interlocks and 200 gr Partitions at the same speed of 2800 fps. I could easily run the 190 gr load faster but I was aiming for a slightly reduced load that can be used at both shorter and longer ranges. That 200 gr Partition will fully penetrate just about any game animal in the world and cause massive damage doing it.

[@JTPyrus]

It really depends on if you hand load, you can get the .270 far passed the .308 at 150 grains bc of the high BC for long distance targets, but it really depends on what purpose. If hunting they both kill deer fine.

[@Jhollywood3698]

I have one of both for whitetail hunting both are Great

[@dumpsterchicken6287]

Great video! Thank you! Thinking of buying the 270. Seems the best for my needs.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Good choice!

[@melisssa7777]

Both are great. I've used the .270 n .308 for many whitetails. I'm 54 yrs old I've hunted since the 70s with many calibers. If your a deer hunter, pick the .270 Winchester,. It's velocity advantage definitely translates into lightening type kills under longer distances as well as up close. Light recoil, it's shoots flatter ,and it hits harder with less wind drift too. No need for noslers, just use the standard 130 gr. .270,. No need for anything else for whitetail, mule deer, etc. .270 Winchester,

[@melisssa7777]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog The .308 is awesome too, I love it too for whitetails especially. 150 gr win power points I use with good success. The 270 has a slight edge, over the 308, it's minimal at normal whitetail ranges, it's real advantage comes probably not untill around 275-400 yards or so mark., It just retains more energy, hits a bit harder too. Comparing the 270 130 gr to the 308 150 gr. The optimal bullet weights I feel for the respective calibers.

[@TonaldDrump686]

@@melisssa7777exactly. The .270 does much better with 130gr bullets. The new 6.8 western is made for long bullets and holds more powder so it’s even better at long range. I’ve been carrying a commercial Mauser action for 20 years. jc Higgins model 50. The 130’s are the only bullet weight as far as I’m concerned. I was eyeballing new mountain rifles recently and held a Christiansen ridgeline…..😳. I wanted to pull the trigger right then so to speak, then I saw the price tag……$2000. The weatherby vanguard can be had for $800 ish and the model 7 Remington similar If you stay from “titanium” parts. The Winchester model 70 is now made by FNH, so it would be very similar replacement for the jc Higgins, That mdole 70 costs $945. The Higgins was $100 ish back In 1950-55 era. A weatherby plastic stock in 7mm-08 is $550. It’s probably a Howa action but they have good reputation. Pardon my run on Sentence, 😂

[@tommcqueen3145]

Good show I just bought a mint US made controlled round feed model 70 in 270

[@jalexanderevans]

I went with 308 for hunting because I wanted an AR10 and wanted to be able to share ammo.

[@tonito6197]

Has this worked out for you ?

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

It even works better in a "self defense" scenario against wild boar, black bear etc

[@Colok10]

I’ve been planning on buying a XBolt Pro to take on mountain hunts, but didn’t know what caliber to get. I’m very fond of .30-06 but I don’t want that much recoil in a mountain rifle. At the moment I’m leaning to .270, just because it’s flat shooting to around 300.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

The 270 is a darn good cartridge for a mountain rifle. What game are you planning on hunting with it?

[@Colok10]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog, I’m planning on hunting mule deer and the occasional elk. I think .270 fits that role pretty well.

[@strat1080]

I’ve always felt that when comparing trajectories between different loads and cartridges that a 100 yd zero paints a more accurate picture. A 200 yd zero is very deceiving. Just look at the difference between the 130 gr 270 and the 180 gr 308 here. The 308 load is hitting almost 1” higher than the 270 load. If you show a 100 yd zero or an identical zero height at 100 yds you get a more practical picture of the true trajectories of each cartridge and load

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

I had quite a lot of confidence in my 270. I've taken loads of gaame with it. I have a 308 now, but would actually have preferred a 30-06. 308 does the job, freezer is full.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Of all those, which ones do you hunt with the most these days?

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I shot out/damaged the .270 barrel beyond repair, and the 30-06 is my brother’s. So the 308 is all I have at the moment. 270 did a 1000 shots, completely ruined inside. Shot gemsbuck, zebra, huge koedoe, blue wildebeest, springbuck and impala with the 308 so far. Going for bushbuck next, the poormans dangerous game. Bushbuck have been the cause of many peoles deaths and loads of farm dogs too. Scary buggers, with their sharp stout horns.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Good deal! What load do your use in your 308 these days? Good luck with that bushbuck!

[@jonathanmitchell3733]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog 150gr nosler accubonds at +-2750fps. Nothing further than 300meters when shooting at things I want to eat. If it’s further than 300meters, just walk closer (carefully)

[@davidmackee8575]

270 win for me does the job well

[@tranlee5622]

.270 and .308 cost the same and performance is comparable with in 400yards.

[@mrgundog_07]

Great info. Very thorough. 👍🏼

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad it was helpful!

[@alanburgess5053]

For my area here in florida we have small deer and most of our shots are a 100yds or less. I have killed alot with my 270 but the bullet is so fast it just goes straight thru with not much knock down power at the shorter ranges. I've have changed to the 308 for the slower heavier bullet for more stopping power at the closer ranges. But if I was hunting bigger deer up north at further distances than I would most definitely go with my 270. So it's basically your shooting needs. Both very effective depending on your hunting needs

[@zxej6879]

Consider a .350 Legend. It may fit you circumstances the best.

[@leemartin9579]

For 100 yards and under a 30-30 or 350 legend would be perfect. I use a 30-30 for the brush hunts where I live, and has great knockdown power. 45-70 also works well, but has more recoil.

[@trg3761]

A 308 w with 168 178 gr eld are game changers in the 308w. I prefure the 308 w over the 270w for higher bullet weights and great bc of the new eld bullets.

[@2017Toy]

I love your channel bro you have excellent content I have taken whitetail deer with both calibers they both work excellent can't go wrong with either one of them

[@papatorr3669]

Great video. YT Virtuovice channel discusses 308 vs 270 experience hunting Sika deer on a Japanese island. Great channel by a humble and competent hunter. Very calming Zen style.

[@yeetarmyitstimeforgoodtime8958]

Which one will I use that's easy both of them and also plan on using my 30-06 in the future

[@dennisfeldhausen3258]

Excellent info. This is exactly what I was looking for.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rkba4923]

I live out West and will take the .270 any day over a .308.

[@reddawng43x91]

Learn how to dial a scope and get back to me on that assessment

[@lyellclare9365]

If you have a .308 and want a bit of speed just load up a batch of 130 grn projectiles. no deer ever knows the difference between that and a .270 with 130 grn.

[@no_regerts5176]

I’ve been a 270 guy for 15 years. No flies on the 308, I’ve killed deer and elk with it.

[@patrioticguy1791]

Lifelong 270 fan

[@frankmccarthy2624]

If you hunt very open country it’s no contest, get a .270. The .280 is actually my preference, either Remington or Ackley, just due to the fact it can push slightly larger bullets. But the .270 is extremely close. The .308 is ok, but I’d pick a .30-06 instead. As a reloader I found the ‘06 much more flexible. Lots of compressed loads in the .308 and it doesn’t have the powder capacity of larger, long action rounds. I actually feel the 7mm-08 is a better short action cartridge than the .308. Better BCs allow a 7mm bullet to retain more energy at longer ranges. The .308 is pedestrian, common and ammo is cheaper because of its military background. It works. There are just many more capable cartridges out there, even not resorting to magnums.

[@jw3946]

An alternative is the 270 WSM, especially if you are a reloaded.

[@barryiwashita6352]

No doubt the 270 & .308 very popular …I’ve got both doing hard work 👍🏼

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

What all have you hunted with them? What's your favorite hunting loads for each?

[@barryiwashita6352]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog where I’m at there’s no big game..it’s mainly pigs ,goats ,sheep and axis deer…..out of my .270 A/bolt boss loaded with IMR 4350 and topped off with NOS B/Tips130 gr.or Speer b/tails 130’s…my XP-100 .308 loaded with Hodgdon BL-C2 topped with 150 B/Tips or Sierra GK’s…REm…VTR .308 ..hodgdon Varget Sierra 150 GK’s…

[@andeanphoto]

I shoot both exactly as you describe their advantages. Very pleasant and very effective calibers. Very good review. Thank you.

[@cbwelch4]

Slight correction. Currently you will find much more .308 than .270 and even less .30-06 where I live. The ammo diversity has not come back sadly. It might not.

[@jeffvw1994]

Update on that, by me on the west coast the 308 is easy to find and the 270 are scarce and more expensive.

[@chipsterb4946]

Now that ammo is back on shelves, there seems to be more, and a wider variety of, 308 vs 270.

[@BigDogDaddyD]

I have an AR-10 in 308 and a 30-06 bolt rifle. Like them both. I would like to have a 270 bolt rifle, but I don't feel I really need it.

[@AlanRoehrich9651]

Either will work quite well.

[@104Woodworks]

I have both!

[@TechnikMeister2]

The 308 was designed to be a military cartridge. It addressed the deficiencies of the 30-06 which by the 1950s was too long, too powerful. The 270 was a pure hunting cartridge derived from the 30-03 (Correct) and as Jack O'Connor said, had more than enough terminal ballistics, velocity and flat trajectory. I also had lower recoil. Though not as light as the 6.5s you could shoot it all day. It was not lost of Jack that the 270 was a faster 7x57 and that was no disadvantage. A 270 is nicer to shoot then a 7mm.

[@ivanvasik4170]

Good information thanks for that

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

My pleasure

[@benpierce2202]

Man... nobody ever comments that they prefer the Weatherby .340 :)

[@countercivilization]

In my experience most 308 factory loads tend to be better compare to the 30-06 and the 270 loads because those cartriges are often watered down. Also I know most guys hunt with 22' barrel but a 24' barrel with a 277 bore allows for much much better performance if slow powder is used. Any 270 rifle with a 24' can push a 150 at 2900+ with ease and safely (single based powder) For example the only decently price 150 270 ammo I could found with a decent velocity was a Norma SP load at 2860fps from my Bergara 24 inch barrel but was 2740fps from my 22' barrel M17 Mauser sold later. Food for thought.

[@faniekruger4937]

Had trouble taking an Eland down with a 270. No trouble at all with a 308. It might have been the bullet on the 270. A Hornady Interlock would have done a better job on the 270.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

What bullets did you actually use on that eland with the 270?

[@fedup3582]

Ya, what bullet did you use in the 270, on that eland?

[@fedup3582]

And what bullet did you use in the 308 on the eland?

[@satan4133]

Depends on shot placement. I’ve hunted with guys that have done bad shots with a 300 win mag and they have trouble taking down deer, yet I’ve done a clean shot with a 223 on deer many times and only needed to shoot them once just depends

[@jaybailleaux630]

I like both but love what a 270 dose to varmints . Good splat factor even with 130gr. bullet. Lighter varmint bullets would be even better. Coyotes and woodchucks at longer ranges would no stand a chance with an accurate 270. It is so sexy.

[@bernardhann9255]

308 125 nosler low recoil does the job

[@cupofjoe2988]

I have a 243 now, great caliber, but want to get something a little bigger. I hunt in PA mostly, in the mountains and brush. Do I go 7mm-08, 270, or 308? Are the first two too similar to the 243?

[@briandecker8290]

.270 moose and deer 🦌 everyone thinks you need a cannon for moose. You do not.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

What ammo do you hunt moose with in your 270?

[@briandecker8290]

Winchester super x 130 grain it’s what my 270 shoots the best. I am from Newfoundland there is an enormous moose population and it’s more common that someone in the house hunts then not. My dad has taken more moose with his 30/30 then most people will see in a lifetime. That being said 99% of them have been taken at less then 100 yards. If you use what you have .243 and up and stay within it’s effective range you will not have any issues with hunting moose.

[@falba1492]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog - Not as experienced as Mr. Decker, but the 150 grain Partition behind a good bit of H4831SC is incredible on larger game, under 250 yards, the Barnes 129 grain LRX is a bone crusher.

[@tomdavis3038]

Everyone thinks you need a cannon to hunt anything these days apparently. Cheers

[@johannesvanhoek9080]

@@tomdavis3038😂👍 You are so right !

[@scottnj2503]

Excellent analysis. I own a Rem 700 sporter c 1977 (gifted in mint very low round count) and a blueprinted Rem 700 Varmint 308 c2014. The 270's felt recoil is harder due to two factors; lighter weight of the rifle and IAW your analysis re: native recoil impulse. Curious to hear your comments on heavier .270 bullets e.g. 175gr Sierra GameKing.

[@chipsterb4946]

Scott your barrel’s twist rate may determine max bullet weight. Call Sierra - their tech support is excellent.

[@110dylanfowler]

.308 for brush and .270 for wide open fields

[@MichaelBrown-um8qc]

My 308-wild cat design sends 125gr BT, 3300fps VaBoom on contact😊 I love my 270❣️🥂❣️

[@Alexis-wp9ke]

Do you know how fast a 270 can send a 125gr? Just asking

[@jimmiealldredge1939]

308. There is no ammo readily available in my area in .270. I own and reload for many calibers. My favorite is 280AI

[@ronthompson4286]

I'M NOT A 270 OR 308 FAN, BUT THE 270 WITH 24 INCH BARREL AND WORKING UP GOOD HANDLOADS THEY WILL KILL MULE DEER AND ELK WAY OUT THERE I DON'T RECOMMEND THE 270 AS LONG RANGE ELK RIFLE I WAS A HUNTING GUIDE IN AZ, NEW MEXICO FOR MANY YEARS THE 7MM MAGNUMS IS AS SMALL AS I WOULD HUNT ELK WITH, SHOT PLACEMENT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT

[@tomdavis3038]

One huge advantage of the 270 is that it’s not a military round nor is it used in AR type guns so it’s less effected by “ammo shortages.”

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Good point

[@allisonsmith9050]

Hm…I have a 270 and it has been outta stock for over a year.

[@chrisf247]

Immediately after a panic starts it will be more available, but at a marked-up price. When production catches up they focus on the most popular rounds first though. Already .308 is more available again.

[@jtjackson365]

Can't find.270 right now but .308 is every where

[@icorezx14r]

I live in SoCal and .308 has been steadily trickling in during this controlled shortage. .270 is non-existant here at this time.

[@danmiller9315]

Both are great.

[@Marcusb338]

Just get a 7mm rem mag problem solved, 168gr bullets at over 3000fps with 0.6+ BC’s

[@johannesvanhoek9080]

Choices given, I would choose the 270, in actuality It really depends on what you’re hunting for, and at what distance, PS once upon a time , hunting was sneaking up on an animal and making a humane shot, today all we hear about is people wanting to shoot animals at 300 yards up to 600 yards, in my opinion that type of shooting is great for target shooting ! I would rather make a humane shot at a closer distance, then I feel like it’s myself against the game, and who’s smarter ! Thats Hunting 👍

[@troycampbell7489]

270 bolt does what ever the scope tells it to

[@reddawng43x91]

Yea at 0-200 yards lol

[@joztunes69]

.308 win hands down, I'm a .30 caliber guy

[@ronthompson4286]

JOHN GIVES SOUND KNOWLEDGE TO THE AVERAGE HUNTER, HE KNOWS MORE THEN HE SPEAKS

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Thanks Ron!

[@craiglacount89]

Great video but I think the thing that is always overlooked in these comparisons is the inherent accuracy of one round versus another. Because the case capacity and bore diameter of the 308 is such a perfect match the accuracy across the bullet weight range is remarkably good, that is not the case with the 270. The 270 is in a category of “overbored” cartridges, accuracy always becomes an issue (more of an issue) when using overbored cartridges. Of course a properly loaded cartridge can produce great accuracy but don’t expect to buy factory loaded ammo and get great accuracy, it might happen but most times it doesn’t.

[@kesleycottrell1416]

Flip a coin, both of them are awesome.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

100%!

[@md12318]

So on avg. Which is the cheaper ammo? .270 .308 30.06?

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

It really depends, but probably the 308 edges the other two here. All 3 are usually pretty widely available and sold at similar prices though.

[@andreww1225]

.270 deer- bison all with 1 bullet

[@bruceferrell3394]

I hunt with both.

[@mr.jayquick4238]

All shots was 40 yards maybe 60 tops with the 308 and 270

[@alexjones519]

Every bullet comparison; Both will kill shit. Get whichever one gets your rocks off.

[@mikejensen6684]

.30-06 Springfield.

[@MENSA.lady2]

In North America if it's on two legs of four, it doesn't matter. Both will get the job done.

[@BBulldog333]

They're both great, but the overall versatility edge goes to .270

[@reddawng43x91]

Versatility goes to .308 110-200g bullets

[@jacobalexander8166]

Red dawn G43x. I have to agree with you completely... I have a Winchester xpr in .308 tack driver toped with a Nikon prostaff 4x12x50 I use 165 grain focchi soft points dead on impact almost every time out to 350+ yards... And I have a 1960 Remington 742 woodsmaster 30-06 that I use when we do swamp drives for the fallow up shoot's it was my first riffle I like it but no where near as dead on as my xpr... I also hunt in central Minnesota alot and it shotgun only for that I have a Mossberg 535 with a 24" riffled barrel with riffled sights fun to hunt with the 12ga too my longest kill is 265 yards not bad for a slug out of a 12ga.. happy hunting

[@RogerSnell]

@@reddawng43x91 Absolutely no doubt about it.

[@couespursuit7350]

Hmmmm baby 30-06 or 270? I will go with the full sized 270 over the baby brother.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

What ammo do you prefer in your 270 for the sort of hunting you do?

[@couespursuit7350]

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog For deer the Hornady 140gr SST SuperFormance has been my reliable go to for 20 years. Last buck I took was with Federal 150gr Fusion, a loading that would be my top choice for Elk.

[@brianthompson7950]

A professional deer stalker and guide is Scotland says his dog get more tracking work from people using 308 than any other UK legal round , he shoots a 270 and shoots hundreds of red deer a year , he earns a living from selling the carcass , I will take his opinion over any amateur hunters

[@azrealtornick]

What would your recommendation be for the "best" caliber for a beginner youth hunter (5' 9", 115 lbs)? It will be used for elk and mule deer in Arizona...

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Hm, that's a good question. Finding a good deer cartridge isn't too hard and there are many that will fit the bill. Finding an appropriate elk cartridge that still works well in the hands of a small framed and novice hunter (presumably you want something with minimal recoil) is harder. The 6.5 Creedmoor is a good choice, though I think it's a little on the light side for elk. It will absolutely work in that role though with good ammo, at shorter range (inside 200-250 yards), and with appropriate shot angles (broadside or slightly quartering). The 7mm-08 has a little bit more recoil than the 6.5 Creedmoor, but recoil isn't bad at all with it, plus it's also a little more powerful and gives the hunter a bit more room for error on bigger game like elk. Hope this helps!

[@reddawng43x91]

.308 in a compact rifle 20” barrel

[@reddawng43x91]

7mm-08 handloaded with 120g Barnes ttsx

[@boydrugger-wp3ld]

Don't care about 270 308 30.06 and all the new bullets that are coming out. How good do you know your gun. How good can you shoot. Not talking about setting down bags all around you. Setting on a beach. Just something to talk about

[@MrBuckeye63]

I wonder if we should ask the deer , which they rather get shot with 🤣 I like the 308 .. 150 gr bullet and a 20 inch barrel

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

In a 16" or 18" barrel the 308 wins.

[@Black_Kakari]

.270 with a 26 inch barrel. Hits like a truck.

[@reddawng43x91]

Carry’s like a truck too lol

[@davidsullivan5700]

Long action v.short action.

[@reddawng43x91]

How tf 130 and 150 .270 loads have the exact same recoil? That’s not correct! There’s something wrong with that data!

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

No, there's nothing wrong with that data. I rounded 21.17ft-lbs of recoil for the 130gr load up to 21.2, so you're correct that the 150gr load should indeed recoil a little more (and it does). I was trying to use handloads that come as close as possible to the performance of the factory loads I used earlier in the comparison. Other loads may recoil a little more or less for each bullet weight.

[@williammullen756]

30/06 stop crying about recoil bet men are hard to find these days

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

Haha, you do you buddy...

[@bobg3633]

30 06

[@wes326]

7mm-08.

[@Thebiggamehuntingblog]

To each his own!

[@delphisrichard5279]

30-06

[@falba1492]

An excellent cartridge, but that’s not the point here.

[@whelennut]

If you hunt whitetail deer exclusively then I don't think I makes any difference. Bullet placement needs to be good and rifle needs to be zeroed properly.

[@LordVader.66]

Basically the 2 cartridges are irrelevant if you reload 30-06 with modern powders and bullets. It is the Swiss Army knife of calibers.