Seller Spent 10 Years Trying To Start This Quad (Finally Gave Up)

I buy a 2004 Suzuki LTZ400 that has been sitting for the past 10 years. #Suzuki, #Quad, #Fix,
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[@joncroteau6030]

Let’s get a round of applause for that starter.

[@yeahright302]

thats always joes style!!lol sad but true!!!lol

[@j.w.3345]

Yup, I was saying out loud “Why does he do that?” But….it runs!!!

[@hitman0119]

Yeah that starter is definitely the MVP for this video

[@smurfy4204]

must of been brand new before joe got it haha!. impressive

[@steveperyer4850]

I am going to be 70, in the next 30 days, and I was always doing the basic troubleshooting like you do in all the bikes, snowmobiles, and ATV’s I worked on from 17 years old to my early 60’s, as I loved a challenge like you do. Got many machines running that others could not get running, overheating, or not running well. It makes me happy that you are carrying on this kind of work. I do however go to a trade school for two school years my junior and senior years of high school, in the small gasoline engines. It gave me some basics, but back then in the early 70’s, we had books and manuals, not computers, google and smart phones. I watch your channel on every challenge. Great work my friend!😊

[@NickWebber-vp4pd]

I love the fact that you make it through these videos without cussing or swearing… my uncle always said, a tell-tale sign of a bad mechanic is cussing and swearing…the more they cuss…the less they know”…i guess that makes you an awesome mechanic…

[@evivant]

😂

[@munter10]

Joe is obviously a Christian and doesn’t swear or use the Lord’s name in vain.

[@marinetodd06]

Not really sure how sound that advice is...some people curse, some don't. Joe doesn't curse on video...doesn't mean he doesn't curse at machines or in general. I curse like a Sailor...shame on me. Doesn't mean I'm a bad mechanic.

[@charlesshort4287]

​@@marinetodd06Maybe he means that if you do cuss and you are cussing while your mechanicing, Just means the more you don't understand or know what you doing/or what's going on,

[@marinetodd06]

@@charlesshort4287 you ever work on a UH-1N? You'll curse until the sun goes down.

[@CH-mp8eu]

Glad you checked the oil first instead of just trying to fire er up this time!

[@RMG9912]

Joe is amazing but will Bosch, Denso, Mitsubishi, BBB industries all manufacturers of starters please sponsor this guy!!! How these starters hold up as he cranks is amazing.

[@JustAnAverageBrad]

10,000 cranks or 500 kicks and "she started right up" :d

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

I was wincing around the one minute mark with Joe holding his thumb on that starter button. I swear it started to sound like it was going to burn out at the end there.

[@ricksmith4736]

@@JustAnAverageBrad Best part is he does not have his face in the camera like the " I wooo like a girl" from legit street cars...

[@citrus1973]

@@stkyfngrszmoothThat’s what they’re for.

[@Christian-ew4eg]

Methinks Joe knows how to diagnose issues with things we all love to ride . So much knowledge . I always view his latest immediately after putting my feet up . Cheers from Christiano in Australia .

[@jeffsousa399]

Got shit house lucky on that one!! Yes you saw a 50/50 mix of gas and oil, in the crankcase. I bought a 68 Charger R/T with the original 440, with the same issue, seller had the same issues, non runner, I pulled the dipstick and it showed completely over full, and reeked of gas.. the old school RED gas, that actually stunk. Pay attention kids… drained 12qts of gas and oil out, found the carb shaft completely worn out, did a major tube up, oil change, replaced the carb, and went out in two days, and layed 80ft black top burnouts in it. Ran like a top. Amazing.. your repair reminded me of that same experience… feels good to get that lucky! Wish I had kept the car, was worth a shit ton of money nowadays.. oh well, we didn’t know back then… it was just a 20Yr old muscle car lol!.. Great Work!!

[@sysmanagerlax]

I’m the original owner of that quad, can’t believe it’s still in great shape.

[@Yz4Life]

That’s gotta be a pretty good feeling to see your old baby being taken care of lol. Like when your daughter finds a really good husband

[@oriancunningham]

to be fair, that was a pretty tricky ass issue.

[@yeahright302]

yeah right,me too!!lol

[@itsmers]

I'm the original owner. I had that quad in the elps

[@yeahright302]

@@itsmers lol,me as well and me and you and @sysmanagerlax,we 3 are the original owners!!lol.as we all solod this atv and were to dumb to figure out what was wrong with it!!!lol

[@AliasTekTV]

Wait wait hold on. If it's got cams like that those will be noisy but that's not just the cams making all that. I'm willing to bet because of the very large lift and the valve springs that need to be used, the cam chain tensioner is not working or already about to break. That's a LOT of rattle. Please check the tensioner for broken teeth or shiny spots on the ratchet mechanism or it's going to have an unhappy marriage with piston to valve collision. Edit: In fact, I've just watched a few videos of LTZ400 and hotcams and they don't sound like that. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE TENSIONER!

[@elis51501]

it’s a vacuum operated petcock, left on pri it flows gas to prime/ fill the carb float bowl, after wards never use it there and set to “On” (which will feed gas on vacuum as it runs) if it runs out while running it, switch it to “res” until you you get more gas then put it back to “on” and leave it there indefinitely ps i own a 2005 Kawasaki version in Orange, and a 2007 Drz400sm which is basically the same setup:)

[@munter10]

Basic instructions on fuel tap operation!

[@garny3766]

Nice job. Few suggestions observations… 1. Install fuel filter in the right direction 2. What type of oring did you use on the oem float needle seat? I recommend harbor freight assortment of viton orings. They hold up well to gas. Standard black buna orings are junk for long gasoline storage. 3. Before tossing carb in cleaner, pull apart cutoff valve and inspect diaphragm, spring, and ball check valves 4. Pick up a cylinder leakdown. It’s the next step after finding low compression. It’ll narrow down the low C issue real fast. 5. Pick up a carb pressure gauge. Not worth putting a carb back in service especially with a used float needle, needle seat and needle seat oring without press testing it. You got lucky with this one. 6. That valve rattle would drive me crazy. Quad seems by sound to be either behind time or exhaust can’t handle AM head work or something. It sounds sluggish. Could just be the audio to I suppose.

[@nickbray87]

I agree here sounds under powered a little.

[@ali1-931]

You are the man @JOE /@2vintage, I believe you can fix anything. Welldone. 👍👍👍

[@jamesburroughs4709]

Good lord you are so freaking smart. I absolutely love watching your videos.

[@benvandermissen4094]

I watch in the mornings before work as you post early. My wife became a bigger fan than me! She is requesting a Vinnie Cameo as she hasn't seen him in a while. Thanks for the constant education dude!

[@foodpedlarofficial2019]

Enjoy your content!! The best part is that there are no "commercials"!!!

[@kellanneal6043]

Hey Joe the z400 lights are turned on by turning the key another click to the right. Unless it’s an aftermarket ignition. Turn it past the on position to the right

[@shawnsparks-qk7sf]

I love how you diagnose things and work through them. Keep up the great videos.

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

Diagnosing is the hardest part of the job most of the time.

[@gregreinhardt1293]

A q-tip in the chuck of a drill and lapping compound cleans those seats up nicely.

[@Tw0001]

Good job! I don't think I would've ever found that problem.

[@jaycroyle8761]

Another great video Joe, believe it or not I have actually learned a lot from watching you. I think it's amazing how you think out loud what you are thinking about possible problems to the current situation. Great camera views, great editing, it's like going to school every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks Joe!! Jay from Pa.

[@renoflames]

That was a good diagnosis and repair. I would love to buy the machine. Older is better. I am in Shreveport Louisiana.

[@nigelbass9019]

Finally a clean machine to work on !

[@1pilotsteve]

Nice Job Joe... that was a problem in plane sight. Very well done. You are an amazing mechanic.. Well done

[@stephengalvan7722]

I can honestly say you inspire me I've been watching your videos for years thanks for the inspiration

[@commishg]

You have very good deductive reasoning, and your patience and persistence is admirable. It must be extremely gratifying to take machines people have given up on and bring them back to life.

[@ejsman36]

Great find on a super clean 20+ year old quad! Awesome that it was a fix and ride in one video! The lights are probably just bulbs after sitting for 10 years. Get some new LED lamps and you will love them.

[@frankflynn7294]

I’ve rebuilt two so far. First thing is swap petcock to 350 Raptor petcock . Always keep fuel off when not using because it floods the bottom end and destroys cranks. Good luck friends 🤙🏼🏴‍☠️🤙🏼🇺🇸

[@cadman9615]

Dam nice find for 1600. That z400 is in excellent shape. I literally just finished rebuilding an 05 with low compression. The rings ended up being stuck. Rebuilt it with a 434 kit from BP ATV & she rips now. Love the Z400’s. Fun quads!

[@Uncle_Anthoni]

Joe, watch out on simple green with aluminum items in the ultrasonic. It can corrode the aluminum if too concentrated. It doesn't look like the carb had any issues, but figured I'd let you know. I just recently found out.

[@mattiaskarlsson3653]

Thanks for all the nice videos! No advertising. No unnecessary blablabla. I had or rode a lot of old bikes you've shown, brings back sweet memories! Greetings from Sweden

[@mattiaskarlsson3653]

I always love when they fire up! Keep up the good work!

[@kevinmorris2440]

I had a similar problem on my DRZ400, sitting over the winter the vacuum petcock failed and filled the entire engine with gas, replaced it with a non vacuum petcock and it's been fine ever since.

[@rintin1874]

Great video Joe watching from Edinburgh Scotland UK 🇬🇧

[@varshkietukas]

Nice fix bro, waiting for more videos

[@ChippyCarpenter]

The bloke is a genius ! Lee across the pond !

[@Dget01]

The petcock on those things are always an issue. Replace it with a Raptor 660 petcock. And never worry about that vacuum again.

[@bradenwuesthoff5639]

Yeah I put a standard Yamaha petcock on my Suzuki King Quad, it had that stupid vacuum one

[@nathanwhite509]

Gas in the crankcase or oil sump means the float is sticking and the needle isn’t seating allowing fuel to pass and go into the crank. I’ve seen this a lot as I do what you do for a living. Sometimes they hydrolock.

[@oldman0473]

Excellent job Joe !!!!

[@Derek.753]

DR your patient is alive and ticking. Good job on finding the problem.

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

This reminds me of the '92 Yamaha YZ 125 you purchased some time ago. Not quite as clean, but excellent condition nonetheless. I just started the video, but even if you have to rebuild the entire engine, you're still going to make some good money because of how tight it looks. Even the factory warning and instructional stickers are still in place. Really great find.

[@gregwilson9105]

I own two and work on three of these model machines. Great job with it. I found and feel that the petcock is labeled wrong. I turn mine in the on position to shut them off, and in the PRI to run them. It hasn't failed me yet. I have heard that they run on some sort of vacuum but have never confirmed it. As far as the LIGHTs. Rotate the key switch past the on position and the lights should come on. It looked like the light symbol by the key stitch was missing so you did not see it, but the key will rotate clockwise past the on switch.

[@whosaidthat5236]

I just got a 2006 Polaris outlaw 500 and your videos from 3 years ago helped a bit. I’m dealing with wiring issues, someone tried to steal it and cut up the harness. No key or tumbler, I’m trying to fix it without just buying a new harness… lol I doubt I can but it’s good practice. Did order a new key and tumbler.

[@shawnlowell4522]

Deff washed the jug clean of oil ..I'm guessing the pipe was full too..back in the day we didnt have interweb an step by step instruction ..but deff a leaning exp. either way

[@1bigthumper]

Good job! I like to use a small auxiliary fuel bottle to check carburetor float shut off. Hook it up to the carb, with the bowl off. Hold the carb upright over a pan. Turn on the fuel flow. Gas should run freely through the carb into the pan. Push up gently on the float and fuel should stop. Just my backwoods method.

[@patrickrooney5130]

I had no doubt you would get that bike running. You are a wazzard buddy.

[@stkyfngrszmooth]

What's a "wazzard?" Is it a cross between a wizard and a hazard? Either way, I like it.

[@patrickrooney5130]

It means brilliant. ​@@stkyfngrszmooth

[@biggieprez]

Turn the key to the second on position for lights

[@fiscustom5893]

I was just about to comment this but figured id see if anyone else figured it out first so I scrolled through the comments first 👍🏼

[@thomaslefler5242]

Great job, just go through the diagnostic steps. No short cuts and start eliminating possible failures. Well done!

[@ryanheeren9481]

You should have a live feed on one of these flips. It would not only help educate you and everyone else but it would save you time. Time is money my man.

[@rlshiflet]

I can do the same thing with pianos. Unfortunately, men rarely play and women aren't interested in seeing how to fix them. There wouldn't be much of an audienc and fewer people interested in purchasing them. I'd love to make videos on how to buy, fix-up and sell pianos, what I've done for the last 35 years in a continually declining market. I really like how you're able to do this and presumably make a living doing it. Keep up the great work.

[@thebigguy8306]

Ol' Joe Loves His Quads. Great find, great job diagnosing and working through the issues. A day out riding is better than a day in the office

[@scottyprice1787]

Nice quad Joe and great deal 😮😊🎉

[@tomdombrovski432]

Awesome video, great perseverance on this!

[@barryhugo]

Plant next years crop near that swail in the middle of the field, along with the soil amendments, and you may be amazed. As long as it doesn't flood... good luck, and great video!

[@Glenn71]

Love watching your videos, you are a wizard.

[@thomasseeley9235]

Just a FYI, if you ever come across another carburetor that has a bunch of varnish or the green crap, I can say this, try this before you use carburetor dip, carb spray, or anything else, try hoppys number 9 nitro solvent gun cleaner. It will melt that stuff away instantly and will also polish the aluminum. Soak the jets why ya clean the carb itself. I'm a 35 year Mechanic and was amazed by this.

[@Rick850angler]

Man I wish u could post these like thirty mins sooner lol I gotta go to work now ..I’ll be back..👍🦅🇺🇸

[@adamfirth4199]

Have a good day at work bro keep working hard!!

[@Whitaker69696969]

@@adamfirth4199 Damn dude that was wholesome. I hope you have an awesome day as well.

[@adamfirth4199]

@@Whitaker69696969 that's how the world should be bro! You never know my guy might have being struggling, you have a great day too!!!

[@martinflanagan2506]

Nice job of troubleshooting Joe, its a good thing he kept the original carb, you can use the chinese one for a door stop. Nice machine looks new.and runs new.

[@jrminate]

I had a z400 approx 8 years ago and bought it mint almost new with like 5 hours on it. I must have put 200+ hard hours on it riding it almost every day hours at a time and it still ran great when I sold it to someone. I couldn't kill the engine, but I changed the oil very very often and used a super sticky air filter oil that caught everything. I cleaned and reoiled the air filter every 4-8 hours max. These 400cc engines were some of the most reliable engines I have personally beat the snot out of if you left them Stock. I have an ltr450 that I always had to replace pistons and valves though pretty often but I beat the snot out of it when I rode it. 450 engines are much more high strung so that is why.

[@ianleroux2567]

Your knowledge is AMAZING.

[@ragnarironspear1791]

Brilliant as always , really entertaining videos

[@barrybrehm3555]

I kind of would like you to turn off the gas and put a little oil in the cylinders and see if the compression goes up because of the gas is washing the rings off

[@BigTuna74]

I’ve watched you since day one you are a master mechanic now ,I’m very impressed with your troubleshooting! keep grinding keep doing what you’re doing. Do not let haters get in your way of enjoying what you’re doing. Love from Illinois.

[@paulym5814]

I like the way you look at it. Process of elimination.

[@kworrell]

I swear your video's are gonna help me fix my 2003 zx12r electrical issues. You are the man!!

[@jrlandscaping390]

My favorite ever sport quad. Had a 2006kfx 400 and my cousin has a 03kfx 400 he bought new and still has it till this day. They’re a blast

[@Antony_Pt]

I speend my time see all videos from this guy. I Enjoy very much. Regards from Portugal 🇵🇹

[@vettepicking]

You can bench check the carb for flooding. Just add gas line above the carb and clamp level in vise for a hour. Watch for leaks

[@jasonjavelin]

Love the aesthetics and for the year! I have a 2004 DRZ250 in the exact same color and graphics scheme. I picked up a 99 Warrior that’s a basket case for my first quad project. I’m not a quad guy by any means but will be trying to fix it to use on my parents land. Your videos rock!

[@kimberlyschmidt1737]

Just love your videos. You have much knowledge.

[@Barnyardbuilds286]

i had a suzuki s40 and it had the exact same problem a friend gave it to me and it only had 1000 miles on it. got a new petcock valve and new oil and filter and she runs great now.

[@snowyowl7042]

Your patience and knowledge are amazing 👏 keep up the hard work

[@Sunspot-19]

Joe, Harbor Freight has lovely air hammer attachments that would have brought that plug out easily. They have place for a wrench and a socket on the end. I use them for exhaust manifolds when they are stubborn. A worthy addition to the tool box!

[@richgwozdz8580]

I got a set of specialty air hammer attachments from Eastwood automotive tools that are rubber coated made specifically to remove stuck seals and bushings

[@TheRealBobHickman]

Always a great day when you don't have to pull the motor out. Great diagnosis, I never would have guessed, but it makes total sense. Very budget friendly fix.

[@MM_in_Havasu]

Your fuel filter is on backwards as well.......get another one. Excellent deal on this quad, Joe! Great find on that carb issue, too. Thanks man!

[@LEE-jj4yk]

Hi joel am amazed how many people state carnt get it going suck squeeze bang blow no matter what Joel you keep up the good work and keep finding them little gems that are basic checks and knowledge

[@brendancheyne3315]

Another great video ! I really do enjoy watching you repair all these Quads and motor bikes! Keep em coming please yours Brendan.

[@Chevchild]

Nice job!

[@elizabethtruman7164]

Great job 👏

[@kobybear08]

SWEET, GIVING LIFE BACK 2 ANOTHER MACHINE, AWSOME WORKS, JOE.

[@robbinsfarm4702]

i see you finally got a ultrasonic, nice!

[@slyfox7429]

Outstanding job on the fix it. If I owned it I would replace the rear sprocket with a larger diameter -- 4-6 teeth or so

[@manaaalsuwaidi3643]

This is the perfect Z400 !!! I recommend keeping it!!!! Keep it as a fun quad! Those Suzukis are pretty solid machine!

[@thomasgordon489]

This guy, with his sidekick Vinnie, can troubleshoot and fix anything. Totally impressed. Maybe Boeing’s spacecraft could use his diagnosis.

[@kpdvw]

Joe you are the wizard of Bikes N Quads;....Also you find 'em with the weirdest problems....! Good fix!

[@LiveFreeOrRIP]

some times my old honda 400ex will struggle to start after sitting for a few months cold blooded. A quick pop start and they fire off perfectly and then fine for the rest of the day. Im sure a few of the jets are not perfect and it makes it harder to start. I cleaned the carb on my 07 And it starts on choke no matter what now. But it was stubborn before. Oddly enough the carb wasnt to bad but I did fine a few clogged up jets not horrible but obviously enough to make it hard to start.

[@Porter-555]

I love wrenching on bikes and quads or whatever u want to call em and I have learned a lot from this guy keep it up man

[@soggybottom3463]

Balls of steel, boss. 1600 dollars for a non runner, clean or no, you've got ice in your veins! Great diagnosis and remedy, well done! 👍👏👏👏

[@GreyYZ125]

when you said ''i don't want it to go up in flames'' First thing i thought about was that KX that caught fire a little while back lol.

[@SS-ll2ie]

I knew the problem all along. My kids z250 had the same issue only my airbox had gas sitting in it as well. I replaced the petcock with a standard on/off/reserve and blocked the other line to the carb

[@maryweston3851]

Enjoyed that piece of detective work,from an old retired detective, in the canaries ,good to watch joe keep them coming.

[@wesleypulkka7447]

2V, after a short struggle it's a fine machine! Petcock power! A new or rebuilt petcock makes it a true bargain! Congrats!

[@georgesimmons4923]

Had a 08 white one. Had a 440 kit. Ran awesome. The reverse was a plus.

[@keeferdog5617]

ANOTHER RESCUE (SAW THE CR VID) A “QUICK GRAND IN THE HAND”…NICE JOB - NEW SUB!

[@Bri-tg6xr]

Wow what a save before tearing down the cylinder.

[@garyearley1838]

Another great video and diagnosis, Joe! You are always so methodical in your approach. We all learn a lot from you and it’s great that you share your knowledge. Keep up the great work!

[@dcwebb1]

You may want to check the oem chain tensioner (possible engine noise), they have been known to weaken/fail over time with this engine, which of course causes slack in the timing chain thus noise. Many owners simply change over to a Manual chain tensioner (eBay $20) and have had great results.

[@ste1872]

Great job as usual 💯👍🏻

[@brianmckenna3440]

Great video Joe

[@nickgruber2593]

Very nice quad. Probably sat for more then 10 years not beat at all. Great content as always Joe. How about a LT80 on the channel one day!

[@munter10]

Well, that was a classic case of ‘bore wash’. Nice to see Joe finally understand what was going on.

[@glenmiller-re5ff]

Good job, that petcock is a new one to me, hopefully the cylinders didn't get scored to bad > . " '

[@JamieDuran-hr3bp]

This guy deserves an award amazing videos you honestly have earned your success. Thank