$800 Honda Cr250 Dirt Bike (Rare 1989 Survivor)

I get a great deal on this 1989 Honda Cr250 dirt bike that has been sitting. #Honda, #1989, #2stroke,
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[@kurtyoung6769]

I stopped at24:22 to say that the cable adjustment on the twist throttle is not the idle adjuster. Not on anybike. It adjusts the freeplay in the cable. There should always be a little freeplay in the cable! The idle adjustment is on the enrichment knob (choke knob as you call it) You turn the black knob to adjust. If I remember correctly it written on the body of the carb. saying which way to turn.

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

Try telling Joe anything, he doesn't listen 😅😅😂

[@jameskrause8902]

@wisecampmotorcycles That's not true. He talks about learning from the comments, but it's only when he does a part 2 video, obviously.

[@michaelmays9292]

Joe's killing it with these cheap nice bikes

[@jamrich3575]

Right and most of them don’t need much work

[@Namedeeznuts]

Insane how he can find things even CLOSE to this price range. Everything used is $2,000+ either no title or all busted up needs a new head, shit like that.

[@THatChevyguy91]

Back in 2008 on are local crags list a 2003 cr250r popped up for 800 bucks . The owner rode fmx and had a bad crash.tweaked the sub frame and needed plastics. My buddy at the time went a swooped up on it .crossed over his plastics from his 05 cr125r to the 250r .that bike was scary fast . Dont find deals like that anymore

[@Jay1980bka]

Nope ! Everyone wants thousands for old bikes !

[@nickprice7752]

When I was about 13 my step dad came home from work one day and told me to come along with him.. we got in his dodge pickup and took off. We arrived at this house about 30 minutes later, pulled out back to this barn. There were old cars and tractors and stuff sitting around. We got out and this old man pushed a 86 Lt250r out of the barn. I took it for a ride. I had some suspension upgrades, FMF pipe and silencer, a tether cord kill switch, some kind of pink aluminum bars. Anyways I knew when he pushed that thing out it was mine, my dad (step dad) paid $700 for it. Plastics were nice but missing the graphics.. seat was mint and it ran great. It was too much bike for me but I grew up in the country so I took it by the horns and rode the hell out of it. I sold it a few years later for $800. I remember kicking that thing one time , I didn’t have the stroke quite right. It kicked back and nearly broke my ankle. Couldn’t ride for 2 weeks after that .. I wish like hell I had kept that bike

[@THatChevyguy91]

@@nickprice7752 that would of been a good quad to keep around these days. Cant find a cheap lt250r. My dad had a 87 lt500r. One morning he was out in the garage trying to start it with out his riding boots . Kick starter came back and broke his leg. I'll never forget that . Traded for predator 500 . Worst trade we ever made whis we still kept it. Damn fast quad .

[@nickprice7752]

@@THatChevyguy91 dang that’s rough right there.. that kick starter has no sympathy.. I never got a chance to ride the 500r but I can only imagine how fast it was. At 13 I thought I was on top of the world when I was on my 250r. Had I known what I know now it would have never left my Possession

[@mr.channel6467]

Deals like that popped up all the time. Especially before Covid, still a screaming deal though

[@diesel8762]

Idle is on the choke plunger. U spin it in or out to adjust the idle. The cable adjustment for any machine id only to adjust throttle play. Any two peace clutch cover is the updated case-cover. Old one is magnesium and 1 peace.

[@T3rryR4y]

I have a 1990. Was snapping wrists 7 years ago. Needle bearings went out on the bottom of my rod. I was younger and broker. I stashed it away at my dads in his heated and cooled garage for 7 years while my life became a roller coaster. Here I am today about to get her ripping once again

[@James-sir]

Drill a little hole at each end of the crack before welding so the crack doesn’t start again and grow.

[@casey8207]

Watching you kick that thing over brings back Memories every time. Me and my buddies being in the pits giving up and finding a hill to pop start it. Good times.

[@watermelonwatermelon6513]

7:28 damn that timing, haha, i think thats not the way bearings should sound .

[@zachfarkash6430]

I am a proud owner of a 1989 CR250R the bike is a ripper! I just got done fully restoring it before this winter hit can't wait for the spring to ride it!

[@leebenson4874]

I ride mine almost every day. Work on a dairy farm. Only when the snow is to deep do I to my horse.

[@zachfarkash6430]

@@leebenson4874 that's awesome you ride yours almost every day

[@hosac99]

same here

[@michaelhathcock7941]

I got 2 right here you can restore 🤣🤣

[@zachfarkash6430]

@@michaelhathcock7941 mine was enough for right now thank you though. That's awesome that you have two of them

[@kurtg3891]

i remember when the Honda Pro Link came out in 1981... it was the Honda answer to the "Mono shock" that was working so well on the Yamaha YZ`s in the 1970`s... but now a YZ and just about every brand uses what looks more like this Pro Link Honda design..

[@waffalobill]

In 1987 I had a brand new 1986 .. 250R quad. I got the 86 instead of the 87 because it was faster. My girl friend who is now my wife was the bookkeeper for a Honda dealership. I had a 1984 Yamaha yfm I got brand new for $2k. I beat the shit out of it. I traded it straight up for the 250R. A week later the mechanic was riding the old quad, detonated the tranny. I used to get everything at dealer cost. The owners was really nice ppl. I had a $350 helmet I paid $35. I used to refresh the engine every couple months just to keep it crisp. The parts was so cheap. Piston,rings, wrist pin,wrist pin bearing, gasket set was like $30. Money got tight I ended up selling it for $2500 like 15 years later. Can't believe how much they cost now. Miss that toy.

[@TheSam123281]

adjust your idle on the carb and not on the throttle grip, there should be a 2mm play on the cable to be safe when you take turns etc

[@its_just_me7057]

1111

[@MM_in_Havasu]

Sounds like power valves are a bit lazy, as it loads up pretty easy. Check reed valves too. Great snag, you got an excellent deal with all 3 of those bikes you traded that Banshee for!

[@Mean-bj8wp]

That's one if the best MX bikes ever made.

[@wayneboehm8139]

Man this channel is addicting. I’m telling you never ends. Cool part is he does very good diagnostic checks. He doesn’t just go straight into it. That’s really good. Good job bro 😎💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤛🏻🤛🏻

[@wvangus82]

I learned that 1 the hard way lol on a bike that's been sitting u can save yourself a lot of money and headache by going over everything before u try to crank it

[@chrisjones7869]

Those bikes are timeless. Haven't changed a whole lot over the years. My 98 RM is very similar. Same carb. Keep bringing these bad boys to life man. God bless

[@renkemam]

That airfilter is IMHO quite dirty. Certainly in a two-stroke, you do not want the tiniest grain of sand in the cylinder. I am used to trials-bikes and we clean the filter after each use.

[@theasiamtmgroup]

Just to say, one of the first things to do on a bike that hasn't run for a while is to drain the petrol and put new juice in. I used to have a CR500 and the problem it had was, trying to pull my arms off when getting on it just before the powerband. It was a beast, and I miss it.

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

By the way Joe, I had a Kawasaki mach1 500 when it first came out in 71 before they even made the 750. When cold it took three kicks to start it. WITH NO THROTTLE, full choke. If ya'll added any throttle at all it took an extra 20 kicks. I see your throttle hand rolling the throttle on every kick. On these hard to start bikes try no throttle cold with full choke. Just the first try.

[@4thdimensiontravels855]

Hallejulah!! Somebody beside me noticed it. Really surprised that he gets anything to start with that method. Its just exactly what you shouldnt do.

[@DavesInHisGarage]

The rattle could be power valve as I had an cr125 years back that had the same type of rattle and that was the power valve, I just stripped cleaned and replaced what I could and it stopped so could be worth having a quick look.

[@larrywarner9314]

Joe is look at the power valves , those 89 were known for power valve issues I took mine and welded them in place and ported the cylinder and jetted it up rocket ship.

[@bigbullhorn8443]

Garage is already so full of toys. I love it. It’s hilarious.

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

This one takes me back to my youth.. We had Yz125 well I had a Yz80 when I was little 88 or 89.. My friends all had 80s and 125s.. we had a place called the Moon we went to ride under the Turnpike bridge back then it was like the moon, all holes to ride in.. now it's all government warehouses and an friggin Amazon under there.. oh well how life changes!

[@ronniehaley729]

Beautiful bike! I remember like yesterday for passing first grade my mom and dad bought me a Cr 60 . Lots of the new gen probably do not even know they were made. It was a 83 2 stroke 6 speed. That was in 1986. I was hooked ever since . Had a 89 Cr 250 identical to this! Brings back so many memories! Love the videos !

[@That1E_K1129]

Like I said Vinny's just a here for the moment type of dude.

[@anthonyguerrera4196]

Nice vids Joe, who know what kind of gas mix are left in these machines. You should always put your own in just to assure it’s a good mix. Keep up the good work.

[@kpetz]

I think you need the check and clean the HPP system the power valves carbon up and stick and needed regular cleaning. I had a 89 cr250 new and used to clean mine when i felt them starting to stick. I would bet most people have not cleaned theirs in years and have no idea they are stuck. A trick from the old days was to use Pam cooking spray to coat them before reassembly it was supposed to slow down the carbon build up.

[@ClementinaHannasch]

I've seen this film many times. It's really wonderful.

[@joshuastone3402]

I use to have the same bike. 1989 cr250 till someone came in my yard years ago and stole it. Never found that bike again. This video brings back memories of my 20’s

[@j33pfyn4tik6]

Maaaan, seeing that Cop , sure brought back some memories....LOL

[@unknxwnbuilds9955]

has to be the best trade ive seen

[@garrison7451]

I always comfort myself with the term when making "crappy" welds "good enough for government work"

[@michaelmays9292]

Need to get that frame back to stock color

[@adamamelsberg5702]

You can tell that you're afraid of it and that's the first sign that somebody's gonna get hurt can't let it know that you're afraid of it just like any other bike just steer it with the back wheel

[@bruceprosser4283]

That's a COP!!!!! Love it. Memories. I graduated High School in 89' and My friend had a new CR 250R. You caught my attention with the Yamaha IT 175. I still have my 1977 IT 400 sitting in my garage. It still has the rolodex on the handlebar, with my time stamps from the last Hair scrambler I raced in 1997. Keep it up!! You're doing a fine job Young Man. Ol Skool Kool!!!

[@Tailchaser73]

Love the videos. Learned a lot and continue to learn more each video. Keep 'em coming.

[@kurtyoung6769]

I really enjoy your channel and I'm very proud of you and your success however I must say for the third or fourth time that that type of Carburetor will not start cold with throttle opened even a little. The enrichment circuit (not choke as you call it) does not function except at closed throttle. I hope you read this and adapt. LOL Thanks!

[@wisecampmotorcycles8258]

Joe's been told this a thousand times, but keeps kicking and kicking, with the throttle open, why Joe, why? 😠

[@mikehudg2209]

Very cool 😎 video, excellent content 👌 showing your skills Joe , diag , maintenance, welding etc - i raced an 89 cr 250 in the day for a local dealer, must say I did like my 88 better though, the inverted fork was a step backwards imo , I currently race an 88 cr 125 in evolution class , I actually went back to my 87 RM 250 in 1990 as I loved that bike and want another !! Thank you Joe for helping keep the sport of vintage vmx going !! I am 53 years old and have been racing since 1977 , currently getting ready for 2023 season race bikes 92 ktm mx 500, 84 yz490, 88 cagiva wmx 250 , 91 Husqvarna wmx 125 , and a recent addition my 83 maico spider 490 - thank you again Joe 😀

[@Eric--zs6um]

Love to have a Maico 490 Spyder.

[@5thgearedlined]

Cop was like, maaaan I just wanna go get a cup of coffee 😂

[@seedsman02]

I,m Australian, and i don,t know how you guys handle the cold climates. I hate the cold, still i guess we cant choose where were born. Like the show, its good to see someone who knows what they,re doing.

[@camshaftshaft2711]

Back in the day I used to run Bell Ray gear oil in my 2 strokes never had a problem and the cool thing about it it was pink so if any antifreeze got past the seal you would know right away as it would turn creamy pink lol

[@kaden68]

nice video man, the one time you take the road and you pass the cops lol

[@250race]

Remember The coil should ohm 10.4 to 11 or no go. Coil 5 to 6 Cap 5 to 6 Any lower no good 170 178 main 32 to 40 Crf 450 coil 2002 to 2008 OEM Replacement coil for any cr 125 -250 or 500

[@Putt-Putt-Vroom]

Wishing you much success and I appreciate all the educational videos. You explain everything in such great detail. Helped me fix many 2 and 4 strokes :)

[@steveharris6916]

Like they have said. Idle is on the choke. Now you have no free play in the throttle. They always ran best with little to no idle. Cleaner off the bottom end. Also those power valves were notorious for gumming up. If you open the left side cover you can watch them open up if clean and working properly. At one point in the early 90’s we had three of these in the garage. All at different stages of hop-up. Clean the power valves and move the clip up one notch.

[@uriahpolite1594]

89 is the year when I was born nice bike

[@AZVIDS]

Nice bike and trade. Seeing that cop reminded me of when I was 14 (no license) older brother and working on street bikes in Spring and decided to take a quick ride on the road…..Cop was waiting for us and I got my first citation, even before I had a license! Man was my Dad mad….😉

[@jessie8143]

Not supposed to adjust the idle by the cable on the throttle. Is there no idle adjustment screw on the carb?

[@zachfarkash6430]

I have a eighty nine CR250 and yes there is an idle adjustment it's on the choke instead of pulling it up and down to choke it you twist it and that adjust your throttle

[@1damghost]

yeah i notice he adjusts all his bikes with the acceleraror cable.lol

[@Wisconsin-boys]

The smoke looks kinda black coming out the pipe 👀 maybe pretty oiled up

[@stevebarr9604]

I had the water pump housing to corrosion on a1987 CR125 a few years ago and I took it apart and had my brother build it back up with a welder for aluminum and replaced the seal's and never had a problem with it afterwards and I kept it for years! I've got a 2002 CR250 now that I bought new and still has less than 10 hours on it! I've got too old and worn down now to ever get any use from it! It really needs a new owner that would take care of it!

[@chopfather2730]

Also keep an eye on the transoil.its smoking pretty good.seals are in-between to keep oil out of combustion side.just a thought.

[@MrJohnnaz]

On a stock carb the idle is adjusted by turning the choke knob.

[@interlake2043]

Must be a painted frame then, the 89's were all red beauties. Edit: it was mentioned in video

[@craigmorgan4676]

Very rare beaut indeed ,Joe, and by all accounts the one u want if ure a collector!💯👏👌👊💪💪💪

[@andrewlambert1445]

Amazed you didn't blow through the exhaust with flux core. I would just do short beads, even just a line of tack welds. Grind it back with a air angle die grinder, bit of paint, nobody would ever know 😂 grinder and paint makes you the welder that you ain't. Great videos tho, love your content.

[@kievmiddeton2656]

You could’ve told me this bike was a 2003 and I would’ve believed you lol always loved late 80’s Honda design

[@mrutherford8590]

Make sure the exhaust port valves move back and forth freely or the power will suffer

[@thejakefromstatefarm6768]

My number was 42 lol and i always rode yz250’s except when i was a little and i rode yz80’s but my number was 42 then even. I love this bike! Brings back good memories.

[@sinistervulcan]

I got one of these on my shed, doesn't see much use anymore. It's rough to ride these old bikes in trails 😆

[@jafar4502]

I wish I had neighbors like this always a plus if a local neighbor is a great mechanic 👍

[@martintaylor984]

This makes me miss my 86😭😭😭

[@932goldengates]

Don't forget to clean that HPP.

[@bdboy373]

Good looking bike trade you a 08 crf250r for it...

[@68-72mmALKYstyle]

Remember bro “rich” on oil in ur premix DOES NOT make the mixture “rich”. Too much oil makes the motor lean because there is less fuel to oil. Get that shit outta there and mix 100mil to 1 gal gas ALWAYS. U can’t go wrong I promise. 100mil of oil to 1gal gas is perfect for anything 2-stroke Premix 32:1 for all ALKY motors

[@leedimatteo5078]

this bike reminded me of Robbie Knievel, RIP Robbie!

[@davecorning4321]

I love Honda CR's! I was lucky enough to own a '99 CR 125, an '01 CR 500 and an '02 CR 250. Unlikely, but I wish Honda would make two strokes again..

[@MrAddison79]

Glad it didn't get impounded, lol. 😂

[@rcclassiccrawlers4368]

Those were/are sweet bikes back in the day. My buddy had one and raced a Honda Nighthawk S on the street in approximately a thousand feet and won. So not only was it quick but it was considerably fast. That bike shouldn’t be too hard to get running. Something’s wrong. That thing should be floating the front end. The power band seems almost nonexistent. Good luck getting it dialed in!!

[@nomasker1360]

Finally tackling the pilot jet first for once . Good plan .

[@zOrO2kX]

I have the same '89 CR250 and those things are powerful. Looks like they indeed painted the frame/motor and changed some plastics to white, but still looks pretty decent. Just need a small tweak in the carb IMO. I have the same issue with the kickstart, but not a deal breaker.

[@sparkie9947]

Sweet vintage CR250. Interesting commentary about the bikes good and bad points.

[@BrandonLund]

Odd...I painted my 89 frame white. As you said, 89 frames were red. They switched to white in 90. I also fabricated aluminum frame guards for mine, long before anyone was making them. Super nice bike.

[@SHOTS-FIRED]

You lucked out with that cop driving by. Pa state troopers would have nailed you

[@motoshawn]

I had an 1989 and sold it wish I never did. Great channel.

[@jackfrostXJB]

i think the rattle is from the pipe. if the seal to the engine is gone maybe its rattling around. ive never heard that sound. i gotta 90 kdx 250 really fun bike but heavy as hell. awesome bike man great video

[@Baddecisionaquatics]

My first bike was a 89 cr 80. I was 11. 2001.

[@danwilson1040]

I’ve been riding my Zx10r ninja around in this,slippery is an understatement

[@prophez23]

I was going to say that the gas/oil mix is off. Too much oil. Great bike man. You made out real good on that deal.

[@MegaGoogoohead]

I love your dog dude he is cool !

[@tomnekuda3818]

That is a great-looking dog you've got there.

[@majorlee1]

My favorite year. I have an 89 CR500 paint the frame red. Good find!

[@davidcorder95]

I would like to find one of those a 490 and an atv someday

[@jondavis9191]

After riding the 97 yz 250 ur going to want to hold on tight when you ride the Cr the power should leave u shaking!!

[@paradoxx109]

Well, that is what I call a Popcorn weld :) Love this bike!

[@epk2027]

Had 2 of these back when they were current. Put a crescent slide 39mm carb with a psi pipe on the 2nd one,it absolutely ripped. Keep an eye on the lower shock mount as they liked to loosen up and back out sawing into the aluminum linkage

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

I use a thickish (not the dollar store version) pick, the hooked one usually, any time I'm pulling fuel lines or especially coolant lines like those damn heater hoses that you can't get to.. yeah a good snap-on pick, that'll do it every time.

[@rigguyjt]

I forgot about that pipe split. My original pipe on my IT250 was wrapped like that when I bought it. I eventually unwrapped it and the pipe almost fell apart. Poor man’s fix is not always the best. I welded it all up and eventually bought a DG racing pipe.

[@arlo12345678910]

Gosh i love Vinnie! He rocks!

[@user-ts4wd4qt9p]

FYI keihin PJ the coke is also the idle screw, turn it counter clockwise for higher idle and vice versa

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Everybody, (almost all today), rotate their bars too far forward today, (and it hurts cornering). Here is what happened. We set them up right in the 80's and 90's, (the age of reason for MX was the 80's), and all us got old and started doing other things. A new generation was entering the sport at the same time freestyle took off (around 2000). The high bars are a freestyle set up for leg clearance for tricks. It is scary to me to see the entire industry adopt the set up,---with out thinking. Bring them back down 80's style, and you will see it is easier to keep your elbows up, (levers too "level" is a problem for high elbows too.), and you will be able to enter flat corners much easier with more front end control, (can pull up and push down on the bars better). I had the 88 CR250. I won a few races on that bike, and started modifying my own engines with that bike. The 89 was the first year with USD forks. If you get head shake, stiffer for springs should help, and maybe a bit more sag in the rear.

[@jadeshaw1867]

Check hpp valves are set correctly and the cam follower is hooked up. Bike will act like jetting way off half throttle and above. Its common that the cam follower or the end of the rack is broken. Msv racing has reproduced both of these parts luckily as good used oem 1s are super rare.

[@charlestaylor3434]

1990 and up Honda changed the right side case from the problematic magnesium to aluminum so it's a non issue for you. And if you did have to replace it for any reason they can be bought new for $200.

[@theone2be33]

I actually had that bike in 1989. Wow!

[@c0munguyforcaz]

That cr looks impeccable 😮

[@narfer]

Was nice to see the compression numbers. I have been working on a 96 and had no real idea of what it should be or anything comparable. I got 155psi. So I put a new top end in it. Up to 195 without running yet.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

My money says the cylinder plating is gone, and it is losing compression. "US Chrome" in Wisconsin does a fantastic job re-plating them, and have been doing it for decades.

[@jackcamden4089]

I would put some new packing in the pipe because it kinda sounds like a chainsaw and it would be more crisp sounding. I did it to my rm125 and it sounds way better.

[@johnmcgiff886]

Check your power valves they might be sticky!

[@MotoVated207]

The frame was originally red. I painted mine white back in 1993 to look like a 1990. 1990 is when they switched to white. I had a guy offer to trade me a 1990 CR500 even for my 89 but I declined because the 500 reputation is they are too hard to ride. Only if I knew then what a cherry 500 would go for now.

[@joeloyd56]

I appreciate the content.