3 EQ Mistakes To Avoid

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In this video, Echo Sound Works covers 3 common mistakes to avoid when using EQ in the mix.
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[@rynabuns]

TL;DW: 1) Seeing not hearing - close your eyes and try to listen when adjusting any parameters 2) EQing tracks in isolation - context is needed 3) Using presets - the preset makers have not listened to your track; you know what's best, not them Hope it helps ^^

[@znopeusz]

thank you, you saved 10 min of my life :)

[@thepyrotechnicpenguin4846]

thx

[@yzzo84]

Ryna Lau thanks who tf don't listen to they eq that's dumb

[@morgengabe1]

Turns out this video was a lot more pointless than I hoped it would be.

[@jazzupthattriad1257]

Only amateurs don't hi pass everything under 150 hertz, if it's not a bass or a EDM kick of course. As an EDM veteran and a mix engineer of +15 years (+ mastering engineer work), I know this. Also done quite a bit of film audio.

[@bharathitarth8475]

that lead tone is beautiful!!

[@Marvelousbmusic]

bharat hitarth know bro I wanna sample it in my track already hahaha.

[@ZeroPurrrcent]

This recording is actually gorgeous, is the full version anywhere online?

[@JaredQMarsh]

Love the way you explained the reasoning for your actions.

[@davidgatten1033]

I feel like equalizing in isolation is actually a good starting point. It allows me to get a better sense of the strong and weak points of the sound i'm using. After this though, your completely right, it needs to be EQ'd in the the context of the song.

[@marcussigemo-digitalartvid8688]

Some solid tips in this video! Liked.

[@grymmjack]

Great video. Closing our eyes is fantastic advice.

[@carlosemmanuel4778]

Thank you so much!!! This was so much help already!

[@IdentifiantDeCatacombe]

Even though I make none of these "mistakes" I found this to be a very useful video. Especially because you're giving more insight in equalizing in general.

[@evad520]

I've been mixing/mastering and doing various front of house gigs. One tip I give to everyone about high pass filters is, push it to the right and pull it back until it sounds normal, you'll be surprised how much more you cut out without loosing anything.

[@adamgleeson-1g523]

This was totally helpful. Thanks so much.

[@simcrsq4586]

Thank you so much this helped a lot!!!! You saved my life

[@riktascale4]

Nice set up guitar arrangement for a cool dubstep song. Thanks for the tips!

[@VasBaev]

Great video thanks a lot! Extremely useful, as always

[@dhil3571]

Damn very useful, thank you! Never really thought about closing my eyes and doing this. Great tutorial and well explained!

[@tonyvincentproductions]

thanks for the continual reminders mate...

[@digitaldroo]

In case you're still reading the comments, when you say that Logic's EQ is weird in that it messes with the Q factor when you drag--you can click and drag on the numerical Hz value instead of the puck in the graphic display to keep the Q value unchanged.

Had no idea about EQ and always used presets. Thank you!

[@Jonotheproducer]

Great tips and this sounds beautiful!

[@shaquillewilkinson4510]

that was amazing its just that i still have problems with the compressor and balancing it can u do one on compressors please

[@agraciotti]

thanks for the video. Very helpful. What VST this bass come from? sounds really good.

[@5va]

Great stuff thank you 🙏

[@michaelkelly6583]

Thank you and much appreciate.

[@danielnicholson4871]

nice video man, this really helps a lot!!

[@Overqualified1]

You showed me how to make room for a specific frequency. SUBSCRIBED!

[@nuavo]

Thanks for the guidance, I used this when I mixed my latest beat respects

[@awesomeguy4733]

Ive been watching this video regularly for over a year now just for the song. Please release this song or finish it or something. The vibe is amazing. thanks..

[@rahim4411]

Thumbs up great video!!! This was informative

[@skyzenskyluke5880]

Thank you for sharing your Knowledge, your tips are gold 😏

[@zRhid]

Are you releasing that song? It sounds nice

[@emf2482]

great video! see that you are using dadalife SF on the master bus. What is it used for?

[@Dunamis_010]

That was really helpful! Thanks!

[@rezz2824]

Very good explanation dude!

[@mertoksuz6805]

thank you verry much I learned something today :)

[@psychedbysilence5671]

Great tips dude.

[@65Drums]

This was a really good video

[@waiisoserious]

yo I need this song so bad.. it sounds extremely relaxing! is there anyway to listen to it or get it?

[@midiman5045]

Nice share, Thanks.

[@NIMMHATVRapBeats]

wow is there a way to get that simple guitar loop?.. sounds beautiful... would like to make a beat with it. haha good tutorial!

[@RedButtonTV1]

6:50 did you notice that eq presets had 1st filter bypassed, exactly for the reason that you re describing... try turning it on and fine tune it according to the take:)

[@davidcollins59]

Very useful, thanks :)

[@resistantemotions5893]

Really Helpfull

[@jocemat]

great tuto!!!

[@userbilas]

Thank You))

[@mb2811]

best tutorial so far. I wish I had found that 3 years ago 😂

[@sumeetganguly]

great video

[@j.p.5373]

read Stavros "Mixing with your mind" youve just basically explained what hes been doing for a long time.plus the compression tips are worth more than gold! his book is the only real worl book that actually makes TOTAL sense when you put it into practice.

[@oscaryuan_]

That guitar is so beautiful !!

[@weber3127]

Didn't know you made What We Were... love that track

[@marmikemp3818]

very helpful

[@octopusonfire100]

It's hard to avoid eqing in isolation, but anyway.... aren't there some situations where it's needed? Like when hunting for nasty frequencies and so?

[@uniqueflowsnake]

Short answer is yes.

[@BlackDiamondYoutub]

Octopus On Fire It's definitely necessary to work in isolation sometimes, but if you do everything in isolation you'll end up with a terrible mix. Basically if you're working with a solo track you should un-solo often to hear how it sounds with the rest of the mix.

[@skyboundzoo7529]

doing both is fine (:

[@Drvm614]

Octopus On Fire cut out the bull then ex to piece it together

[@LesterBrunt]

maybe just to hunt it but any adjustment should be made in the mix. One of those nasty frequencies might sound pretty pleasant when adjusted, if you just blindly pull it down all the way you might have gone too far and taken a bit of life out of the track.

[@SOULPAD]

Nice! Where i can get the Instrumental? I would like to record a new song on it :)

[@Pinko_Band]

With presets, keep in mind that you can always familiarize yourself with the presets in the plugin and that you can also tweak them. So, for any given instrument, if there is a particular eq curve that you already know you are going for, you can slap on whichever preset you know that corresponds to that curve and tweak it from there. Some plugin devs are better than others when it comes to making presets, but as long as you are familiar with what you have, then you can use any preset as a starting point to get you where you want to end up. It's just like anything else as far as taking the time to get to know your DAW, its stock plugins (or nonstock vst plugins), and the presets of those plugins. So I say don't discard the idea of presets, even in your eq and compressor plugins, as they can sometimes provide some great starting points--especially when first starting out and learning about eq and compression. Just don't depend on them without learning from them, blindly slapping them on a track going just by the name of the preset and letting that be it. Learn from them.

[@ajmag4891]

Track Sounds Promising... Where To Hear The Final Mixed Track / Name ??

[@tbmuse]

At 7:58, I like that subtle acoustic bump at 3k? it just made the guitar pop a bit and sound real instead of mechanical.

[@tbmuse]

a little subtle automation on the eq of that acoustic makes a ton of difference.

[@corbineddins2645]

hey esw, could you tell me how you record your tutorials through logic and your method of screen capture, and how its routed, i know you use a audio track in logic, and i have all the hardware i need, but I'm trying to record a video but also show off vocal effects or rap on the beat i made, can you offer any help?

[@femboyhooterssouschef]

Brilliant tutorial but have to say this recording is beautiful, hope to hear it in a song or something, or just have it to play with and try use it in a song haha

[@thefifth9745]

I will listen with my eyes closed from now! Thanks a lot

[@prcssri]

very useful

[@blackproducerworldwide7573]

GRT JOB FNX

[@streetsurfer24]

Hey! Regarding Logic Pro, how do you save your files? Like as a folder or project? And which of the assets do you tick? Thanks!! I also wanna look long term when I wanna back up my projects in an external hard drive. From testing out, as someone who has his samples on an external hard drive, I find saving as folder and not selecting any assets to work. Like when I try to open a project on another computer.

[@Tenor14_]

Where can I get this sample??? Its amazing

[@ConTodayTempo]

could you do a video on working with bass sounds and not losing them by over boost and over cutting i can neveer find the balance im looking for with bass i don't understand why its just not making sense i mean electronic bases im using vst instruments to make the sound

[@Noahtherapper]

I'd just say look at presets as a suggestion. You could use a preset, you are going to have to still adjust it to whatever signal you are listening to. Great video!

[@igorsenayoutube]

Awesome tips and the music was beautiful. What vst´s were you using for both guitars?(if they were vst´s).

[@Adsrsounds]

Thanks! They aren't VST, real acoustics :)

[@igorsenayoutube]

I suspected so. They sounded way too good to be vst´s but hey one can hope =) I wish i could make Real Guitar, Ample Sound Acoustic etc sound like that.

[@chronicmango]

Had my guitar on me when I started watching this video. Can play now haha

[@jones9309]

liked before watching going to watch later and subscribe

[@MyArtsProduction]

awesome

[@michaelkitlinski5064]

Nice vid

[@johnmorris2170]

Engineers figured this out back almost 50 years ago. All analog boards since the early 70's have their high pass filter either at 100 hz, 75 hz, or 80hz. It was never higher and for good reason. They made the decision for you. They knew that cutting at 150hz or 250hz would butcher the bottom section of the track in question. Regarding Eq in isolation (Great advice!) I think what you mean to say is, "Don't EQ in solo." But I guess a lot of amateurs wouldn't know what you were talking about.

[@MarianoGrandoli]

Hey Alex, I was wondering what setup you use to record your videos? Are you recording with Soundflower and then editing with Final Cut Pro? Thanks from Canada!!!

[@dash8_music]

Anyone know what guitar was used to get the lead? Like at least something that sounds similar?

[@larsekman3532]

One more question, about making changes to EQ in isolation, which I have done basically all the time since I started EQ:ing. Now when I tried to do it in its context, I found it difficult to single out and to hear the effect of the EQ:ing as all the other sounds where getting in the way. Maybe I just have a bad ear but any advises would be good to get.

[@xMiyazakiAkira]

Damn this song sounds good, very beautiful

[@RickyMacBeatz]

Did you end up ever finishing that track? It's got amazing potential. If you did I'd love to hear it.

[@djtorchmusic]

I like this video but there are uses for isolation. The use is knowing what you're giving up when you cut via context of the mix. Many times I find myself in a "pick and choose" between which track I want to cover a certain frequency band. A good example are two lead synth sounds or something like a lead synth sound and high bass sound that overlaps. Do I want more of the high bass or do I want more of the low synth? This is even more important when I'm layering sounds to make one sound. Also, there are a lot of "mid/side" tricks you can do to manage space in a mix. In his example above, I may slide some of the guitar bass more to the side and the low bass mono/mid. I'm not saying it will sound good, but it's worth a try, right?

[@normanbataille8865]

hi I play nylon strings and very percusive , any tips

[@Kenjikenification]

How did you record your guitars? with mich or straight to interface?

[@branchyapple]

Max Zavtur well i guess a A/I (audio interface) will do the job...

[@LegitTheProducerBackup]

What kind of mic are you using when you're talking?

[@EminoMeneko]

EQ preset is good... I have a self made preset for something I do often. All I need to do is fiddling around with the cutoff frequencies and emphasis. The rest is already done to my liking.

[@ginotarabotto]

Is it better to cut or boost eq?

[@tmmmedia731]

I use the cla kick preset all the time because for some reason it’s perfect for my kick sample to really cut through nicely but other than that I agree presets can make you destroy the rest of your mix before u know it

[@artimehta4189]

what is it daw used.(digital audio workstation)

[@spane5mixline]

weldone!

[@tuttifrutti8576]

When I use eq the first thing I do is to check how much of the low end the sub takes. Then I apply that low cut to everything and go from there

[@w2aiq]

EQ presets definitely work however with something like recording an audiobook, because first off the human voice range is not that insane, and any individual will usually present very much the same from recording to recording unlike a musical compilation that can vary wildly...

[@mickeytown]

That acoustic guitar solo is extremely beautiful! Is there any possibility that you can share it, please...maybe?

[@Adsrsounds]

Hey Mickey! That whole progression is included in my pack Ashes V.1 :)

[@Adsrsounds]

www.adsrsounds.com/product/presets/ashes-v-1/

[@allhailexecution3765]

in the first mistake, "its great that it looks right, like that is a beautiful curve cutting everything..." shit had me going for a good minute lmao

[@GonTello]

you can use the preset as an example, and then tweak it... At least for me works. the rest is ok. great video.

[@sairam7262]

could you make a tutorial while completing this track

[@EarlGrayes]

Could some one tell me the bass noise he is using please?

[@XiyuYang]

And level matching!

[@MonthlyDuB]

im looking into making some chilled music, do you think youll be putting out any of those guitar melodies?

[@MonthlyDuB]

you obviously have no idea about music production

[@Adsrsounds]

Hey man! Yeah this exact melody and lead will be in an upcoming soundset :)

[@yzzo84]

CaLLUM get rg from rob papen you can make your own guitar grooves that sound excellent

[@sammieb924]

What version is this??

[@jeanmarra409]

please release this song!🙏🙏

[@danroberts9050]

Tip #1 Don't use EQ just for the sake of using EQ. Start with diagnosing what is wrong. Then fix that. You can't hit a target if you don't even know what you're shooting at. In most of my mixes I never even armed the EQ. I always tried to get a great sound before even printing. That begins with a great sound source. If your guitar sounds bad, then shit in equals shit out. Same with any other instrument. Second, mic choice is paramount. We had 3 U87s and yet most of the time that was hardly the right mic. In fact, U87s are rarely the right mic! Know the response of your microphones and know where they should be placed. That's where you want to close your eyes and experiment. If you get the right mic and the right placement then you're 90% there. Same thing goes for setting up your mic pre correctly. I can't tell you how many times I heard mic pres over driven or under driven. There is a right place for your gain and it's just as critical as a great sounding source, the right mic and the correct mic placement. (remember, close mic-ing is rarely the right choice. Most people close mic because they have a noisy environment. However, distance mic-ing is generally much more authentic.) Lastly, be cautious of anything between the mic pre and tape (or DAW). Compressors must be mild and I'd never print with a processor as you are stuck with it once you print. As I said, if you do these things you'll find you hardly ever need EQ. Just thought I'd toss in 2 cents. (drops mic. Broke mic. Damn it!! That was a very expensive mic!!)

[@larsekman3532]

I use FL. Does it matter in what order you put your mixing plugins, like, EQ, Compression, reverb... or Reverb first then Compression and lastly EQ. Does it matter?

[@larsekman3532]

Thanx for the advice, yes it sounds logical... :)

[@branchyapple]

Lars Ekman well if i guess you have 8 slots to put plugins in. If you put a plugin in slot 1 it reads that first then it reads slot 2. So if you put a sidechain in slot 1 and put a compressor and add 100db(just a example). Then it overwrites the sidechain. But if you turn it the plugins around it works as you want to! :D

[@Rocker6458]

Typically, reverb is something people use last because you don't want to create noise and mud your mix up. Sometimes I use light compression on reverb though! It all depends on many different factors. I wouldn't follow any preset order on effects. Rather, I would learn each effect individually and understand what it means to change the order of each effect. Hope this helps :)

[@larsekman3532]

Thank you Kyle

[@matthewbrown8818]

I also tend to put a gate effect as the very last plugin in my chain. It helps to prevent the reverb from lasting too long and muddying up the following sounds, especially on drum samples. Something I've found that helps create clarity in the mix.

[@rajharsh3114]

Q Factor.... Reminds me of Physics Class, as in Quality Factor. 😂😂😂😂

[@sixbilliontoone]

It does sound like you know what your talking about, but when i close my eyes...

[@oinkbastudios3150]

I'm not sure if "some" parts of this video applies to Logic 10.4's new vintage EQ's and ChromaVerb. You can get away with a lot more now.. like the low cut.