3 federal agencies sued over CSX rail repair work in Nolichucky Gorge

[@ryanfindstruth]

Someone needs to sue the environmental groups for hampering emergency recovery efforts.

[@dknowles60]

Yea

[@paulendres2757]

@@ryanfindstruth there’s nothing in the River that was once there, Everything is washed away, you should be Panning For Gold in those sand Beds

[@tonyb2760]

Do they really think the habitat wasn't severely damaged by the flood? Is this real?

[@chrywelch]

For real

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

Lol like the mussels were just hanging out, having a cup of coffee during the violent flooding? Those things are in a different time zone by now.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

@@MooseKnuckleMike, because you live there, and you've been studying them for years; you're on the ground, and can visibly see that they are gone. Wow, impressive. Thanks for the (completely false) information.

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 come back and complain after you earn a degree.

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 I’m E.P.A. certified, how about yourself?

[@kevinsimmons5646]

What idiots. That Railroad needs to be fixed now. Somebody needs to tell them to go away and shut the hell up!!

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

The American worship of the god, Greed, even when it harms the people worshiping it, has always amazed me. People need that clean water, in order to survive, but you don't want that; you want a railroad...for the lithium mining? Interesting.

[@gunrunner7224]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 The real world runs on logistics, and with the roads being wrecked as bad or worse than the rails and with the rails being well on their way to being operational, Guess what will bring in more supplies. A functioning railroad or a semi truck with no roads and limited capacity. 🤔 .

[@Heritage_Railroding]

Exactly they need to shut the Hell up

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 The only things there dumping in the river are dirt and rocks, not toxic waste or heavy chemicals.

[@ChessieKitten]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 CSX is an environmentally responsible company, having won numerous awards in especially combating climate change, as well as environmental stewardship. The railroad needs to be repaired, while at the same time CSX will cooperate and do what is safe for the environment. Now, why not allow for the rebuilding of the railroad?! This issue does not seem to be about horrible chemicals being dumped. This is not East Palestine. This is rebuilding a railroad ballast washed out by a hurricane!

[@2fish_tacos814]

They act like the flood didn’t wreck the gorge smh. I wonder if they have found those mussels since the flood? I doubt it. Again, those people have hated the RR for years. CSX should leave the rail and ties in the river and let the kayakers get it out if they’re so concerned.

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

Alot of the rapids were changed, true. However, the rapids were channelized in the flood, creating a lower flow window for rafting to occur according to reports from the initial descents following the hurricane.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

CSX is digging out and using the rocks, as well as anything else, for the RR, with no regard to the survival of the river. Since no Americans will be allowed to keep or rebuild on their land anyway, they won't need the clean water anymore, right? Gotta support that CORPORATE GREED, no matter how many people die!! Gotta mine those resources! How very American of you.

[@dknowles60]

@@Ripped-Inflatables that dong change the fact that CSX can just leave AND LEAVE EVERY THING IN THE rIVER

[@erich5265]

Bring them the hardy invasive species you can't get rid of.

[@Joseph-u3t2n]

I bet you these people do kayak.

[@kevinstenger4334]

And we’re supposed to believe that the mussels are just sitting there undisturbed in spite of the massive erosion caused by the storm, and any disturbance to their habitat is caused by the construction work? I think they will be fine and where they hang out will not be in the same place necessarily because of the flooding.

[@guns2317]

The odds are quite high that those super duper important mussels are now somewhere in the bottom of Douglas Lake, or scattered among the massive debris fields in Greene and Cocke Counties!

[@chrywelch]

​@@guns2317 it might end up spreading them!

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

You mean, the things that, by their very nature, bury themselves in the sand, would be gone "because of flooding?" I guess clams went extinct centuries ago, because of all the hurricane damage, too.

[@paulendres2757]

Those Mussels are Gone The Flood Destroyed those Beds, what Railroad is Doing is not Wrong ….

[@jsfoster75]

Ummm, where are these "critically endangered" mussels now? Probably 200 miles downstream...

[@user-ud7ko4cq1n]

I hate hippies so bad. There's literally bodies still not found in that river, and they're worried about the critically endangered Eastern Tennessee Whitewater Mud Flea or some shit.

[@donaldcurtis9229]

They're not hippies they're just crazy people

[@donaldcurtis9229]

I guess their homes weren't affected by the hurricane so now they have to stir up something else

[@patrickthebaptist-sharingt428]

It's a grab to take tax money for their 501 non profit scam.

[@redburban1394]

Clams can filter a lot of toxins and other waste that is in a river, plus provide a food source for other animals.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

You rode the short bus, didn't you, along with 94 other people, apparently? That same disregard-mindset of, "CSX is more important than anything else," is the SAME MINDSET that allowed government agencies to allegedly bulldoze and hide bodies from any official count. Do you think CSX is being careful of looking for and reporting bodies, when other agencies and corporations are covering them up? With all that convenient heavy equipment, it would not surprise me at all, if those agencies and corporations PAID CSX to bury any body found in the "repairs." And here you are, cheering them on. Your ignorant hatred of people doing the work that your lazy tail refuses to do, is promoting and protecting the crimes against American people, who have lost friends and relatives there, and who NEED that river clean in order to survive.

[@mikemiller209]

If the shell fish are that endangered then maybe they shouldn't be rafting on those waters

[@jeanlawson9133]

Exactly no human contact...

[@Dudemieser]

Excellent point

[@jamesbell6641]

Agree, Rafters have been trampling on the ElkToe Mussel for many years!

[@421Rider]

Between 1986 and 2006 I paddled the Nolichucky Gorge more times than I can count. It is a national treasure. I'm also a tree hugger from way back, but this is ludicrous. Short of building a dam there is nothing CSX can do to approach the damage to the habitat done by the flood. I would also point out to those who still are able to enjoy this river that CSX engineers have evacuated injured boaters in the past and might not be so quick to render aid if litigation poisons the relationship.

[@dknowles60]

YEAH

[@Dudemieser]

Thank you for your input ❤

[@johnmulcahey1613]

Railroad was in place before it became a protected area, and rebuilding it is a priority for the economy. Once done and repaired it will go back to some type of normal activity. It would be different if they wanted a new rail line and disrupted the area! Wild life will thrive and return. This disaster disrupted the hole ecosystem, so the sooner they finish this the sooner it will grow back to it beautifully through way for all that love that valley and waterway.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

Your fantasy scenario sounds nice; the rest of us have to live in reality, where we need clean rivers to survive. But, you aren't worried about the survival of the people, I see; you only care about the "economy." Dead people vote, but I don't think they can support more than a tiny fraction of the economy. You must be a lithium mine investor.

[@mikeingeorgia1]

I used to be in a kayaking club and heard this stuff constantly. They’re like Karens of the river, and will do anything they can to block access to anyone else from using the river except themselves of course. That’s why I stopped paying dues and left the club. We need heavy industry way more than we need some obscure insect in the river. CSX will have a very experienced project engineer watching over everything the whole time. I’d be surprised if they don’t have crews out there working at night too. I’ve seen them bring in portable lights before. It just depends on how quickly they want it finished.

[@jamesturner6949]

Are they suing the hurricane for killing the mussels?

[@dustyburner]

The Hurricane was named as an accessory. LOL

[@stuartbuckley6113]

The shear ignorance of these people. That railway needs to be reconstructed asap. The flood has done more damage than the crews ever will by repairing it. That area will NEVER be the same again! Fools impeding needed repairs.

[@kenbishop-y2u]

This railroad line is very important to many towns in the mountain route. CSX is probably the best managed rail line in the USA. They work as clean as they can. Helene destroyed so many areas. Please let the Railroad do their work. Common sense will reenter the Government on 1-20-2025. My goodness I am sick of how our government has became so stupid.

[@zinniaadkins9826]

Getting the rail line back open is crucial, go CSX

[@dknowles60]

and the USA

[@jeanlawson9133]

Fighting the Railroad....I would say true definition of a Fool.

[@mikewatts3615]

In an emergency laws go out the windows, this is an emergency zone and will be for a while get over it and go somewhere else

[@toddfryman6178]

Billions of dollars in damages loss of revenue not to mention garbage, sewerage , chemicals and rushing water did most of the damage… good grief they are not intentionally destroying their already altered if not totally destroyed habitat!!

[@samblevins1898]

Total dumbasses

[@tomt9543]

The railroad has been in the gorge for 110 years. The things that are going on during this reconstruction are the exact same thing that was done to construct this line over 100 years ago, and although many of these whiners weren’t alive to see it, floods in 1977 caused similar reconstruction to the line. The river that they’ve been paddling through, and are so fond of, is the result of that 70’s work. If you people would just chill out, let these contractors do their work, and realize that the end result will show far less damage by man than what Mother Nature wreaked on this gorge! Think of the people whose lives were turned upside down by this flood, and how long it will take for them to get back to their normal lives. Kayakers and rafters aren’t exempt to the period of recovery. CSX knows this very much in the public eye, and I’m sure they don’t want the PR circus that would result from a botched job! And as for the mussel bs, give me break! You don’t, and never have, given a crap about clams in the river! I’m also sure that equipment crossing the river at one specific location at Poplar will have minimal to no long term effect on the river! I’ll end this by saying that I’m a fellow kayaker, and retired railroader.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

"Retired railroader;" what a surprise. If people are going to return to THEIR LAND and rebuild, they'll need the clean water of that river, much more than they need a railroad. The mines need the railroad. People need trucks. The American people or the railroad; which do you support, "retired railroader?"

[@tomt9543]

@ If you were to take the time to research this a bit, you’d find that this rail line is a very heavily used route for traffic between the Midwest and southeast. If it was insignificant, the millions being spent wouldn’t happen! And the trucks you reference are very frequent users of the railroads! UPS, FED EX, JB Hunt, Amazon etc all are major users of the rail system in this country because they can move hundreds, if not thousands, of truck trailers and shipping containers from one side of the US to the other without using a single driver. The exceptional minerals from the Spruce Pine area that are used worldwide due to their high quality move on this railroad, and that equals jobs at those facilities! Anyhow, we’ll see who wins in the end, and I’ll bet we both do! The trains will run again, and paddlers will joyfully float to Erwin, after drying their tears and feeding the clams! And as far as “American people “, who do you think maintains this railroad, the track, signals, rolling equipment, and runs the trains? These are American people who call this area home, most of them for their entire life! So your claim of the locals not needing the railroad is without merit! It actually steps on the toes of the American people that you claim to support!

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

​@@tomt9543, I didn't say the RR was insignificant; I said that people need clean water more, and that people rely on trucks for what they need. Railroads are important FOR INDUSTRY, which have declared record profits since 2019, while the American people slide into the gutter (or grave.) Americans are looking for jobs, based solely on whether or not they can make more money than they lose working there, and if that tiny bit of positive will be enough to pay the electricity or mortgage. No matter what they do, or how much money they make, they see that they are losing the ability to even buy all natural food (natural, not organic, which can be GMO,) at the same time they are learning how everything in the stores negatively affect their health (and the future of their children.) People are finally realizing that record profits for industries does not equate to good jobs (or even any jobs) for them (major corporations firing Americans, and then hiring "new visitors" for less, or simply moving out of the country comes to mind.) I know people want to believe that we are just going through a "bad time," and we'll all be okay in the end, and my heart breaks over their inaction (frog in the pot,) but when I saw DoD Directive 5240.01 and the mercenary camps set up in the area (by their own admission, they "aggressively" protect the interests of their clients at those camps and outside of the camps, not just for FEMA,) I knew that the people in that area WILL be removed for industrial interests. Those camps are set up in conflict zones, where their clients are doing something so egregious to the local population that the country's police and military cannot or will not protect the corporate actions against the people to get those resources out of there. Locals won't need that railroad, because only corporate employees will be allowed to remain. If people took the time to RESEARCH what is really going on, they'd be defending a blade of grass, let alone clams.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

On a side note, since you claim to like research, read the CDC's "Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Interim Operational Considerations for Implementing the Shielding Approach to Prevent COVID-19 Infections in Humanitarian Settings. Updated July 26, 2020." It states in there that "older adults" (when I had the HS training, it was age 55, then it dropped to 50, and now it is "older adults") and people with disabilities or pre-existing health problems of any age should be removed from the population to save limited resources. After they are removed, then isolate the rest of the population's infected for treatment. What is going on here with land-taking for industrial interests was placed under the Wildlands Project. The crimes against people I learned working on that project made me quit and leave D.C. There are thousands of corporations under all these different projects, which are under the UN Agendas (they are all associated with the WEF for the benefit of the public, but I never once worked with the WEF on any of those agendas.) The US congress passed the Digital Dollar laws (yes, more than one) in 2019. The UK is "testing" the Digital ID on 250,000 of their veterans in 2025. There is a LOT to research out there.

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 Some gravel and heavy rocks are not gonna pollute the river.

[@TheCatman4166]

Everybody wants to sue, sue, sue

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

Maybe, because corporations and governments only know how to crime, crime, crime.

[@josephlalock8378]

lets see what dude has to say when he has to wipe his ass with a clam because no trains are there to bring him toilet paper.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

There's this cool, new invention, called a "truck." Look it up.

[@herbhall3830]

​@@deborahhopkinson5243yeah you claim to care about the environment by trucking in everything when the train can do thousands of times more work and not only cheaper but cleaner by a long shot!

[@SteamCrane]

​@@deborahhopkinson5243 A truck carries a fraction of what a train can, and pollutes many times as much per ton hauled. So you get much more pollution.

[@Dudemieser]

Is that possible? Must be huge clams

[@SteamCrane]

@@Dudemieser If the trains stop bringing stuff you need, you'll have to go find some clams or mayapple leaves.

[@charleskovalewski5210]

you think there is any mussels left after the flood?what bull!the railroad was there before.get out of their way and let them build.

[@dknowles60]

YEAH

[@herbhall3830]

Amen

[@ML-dk7bf]

They still exist, in the nearest downstream lake.

[@dknowles60]

@@ML-dk7bf that would be the Mississippi in they live. i been tpld by TVA dam workers they were killed by the TVA dams

[@guns2317]

Absolute insanity to demand a "study" before rebuilding the railroad. Long term damage by the railroad building? Did you all happen to notice the MASSIVE damage done by the flood waters? Utterly bizarre. GO CSX! Get er done!

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

So, different rules for different corporations?

[@dknowles60]

YEAH

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

...because living, natural people don't need clean water. No, no, no, trucks don't exist, so we gotta have a choo-choo! Live in the now, yes?

[@guns2317]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 LOLZ. Did you see what happened to the river 2 months ago? Your argument flies in the face of logic. Big whoop, a truck gets driven over the river bed to help return a vital industry to service. Guess you don't care about the shipping and other jobs associated with CSX? Did you fail to see all the problems with trucking happening across the mountains all over this area? Why, exactly is that happening? Because there are no rail routes and more stuff needs to move by truck, using our very restricted and damaged roads.. Do you think that our water comes out of the river and STRAIGHT to our homes? Hint - it does not and is treated heavily before being sent out. I am sure that the disturbed river bed does not cause any sort of problem with the water treatment plants miles and miles away. Bye bye!

[@dknowles60]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 How young are you, the us has some of the Best air and clean water in the Whole world, please feel free to make a fool out of your Self at Any time

[@raykes9549]

Unbelievable. The river is destroyed. This is the most stupid thing I have ever heard of. I guess if someone wants to rebuild their home after being destroyed and accidently dump a bucket of dirt in the river they will be taken to court. This is Unbelievable. SAD😢

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

It's not putting things in the river, it's actively removing the new repairian zone, they were told to halt activity 5 ft vertically from the river, which they promptly ignored.

[@TreeLBollingTreeMan]

@@Ripped-Inflatables Go float your rubber ducky in your moma's tub.

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@Ripped-Inflatables Most of our rivers are a hundred feet wider than they used to be, unless they start blasting (Which will do more damage.) there's no space for them to shift the railroad to.

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

Nobody ever accused leftists of not being stupid.

[@mountainslapstick6170]

the river is 100% not destroyed. The railroad is destroyed

[@jerryrigsit5400]

CSX needs that route. So freaking stupid

[@jeffoliver3774]

I guess that they don't want the Corp of Engineers and the local people to build the roads and move the debris either as it might affect a fly or something.

[@chicnwing4519]

This shows the true ridiculous of environmentalists

[@AppalachianRailroader_]

Ha! We will not stop until our line is rebuilt. Suck it hippies. Our company does what it wants to on its own property.

[@TezcatlipocaMountedRailfan]

If this lawsuit prevents CSX from rebuilding this longtime artery, we could permanently lose the original Clinchfield mainline route. It’s truly a miracle we didn’t lose the 800 or the historic rolling stock, but with this major washout taking what is now considered a major line for shipping through the difficult to navigate Blue Ridge Mountain Range, hindering it’s reconstruction will not only be detrimental to the economy of Western NC, but is also preventing the revival of this historic line that has slithered through the foothills of East TN and West NC for more than a century. This route is a part of our history here in the southeast, and no ya n kee tourist should be allowed to challenge that. I digress.

[@anb7408]

It won't. Neither the government nor a bunch of liberal hippies can legally impede the flow of interstate commerce and that includes trains. This bullshit has come up in courts before, and the railroads won every time.

[@laurakilmer8652]

So some kayakers know more than anyone attempting to build back a needed railway. Damn What else is new ?

[@ThomasD66]

It's a shakedown - they are looking for a cash settlement, not any actual change.

[@s197_carti]

How are they supposed to restore the railroad line without doing certain things, they can’t just leave the rails and ties in the river, these guys are pretty dumb.

[@randymckenzie6730]

mining the rock out of the river fixes the roadbed AND cleans up the river so it wont flood as easy next time. Once its fixed the tree huggers can go back to whatever they do.

[@handysmith-kv1tc]

Mainly whine & bitch.🤣🤣

[@alwhalen3488]

Just imagine what our Country would be had people like this interfered with the original railroad construction all over the continent that built this Nation, or even the Interstate roads that continue to support our economy along with the railroads?

[@JD-zm4eh]

Railroads are a vital transportation of products people use each day, are these people against food and supplies getting to their local grocery stores and shops? Repairs need to commence without interuption for the region to regain stability.

[@lewisdoherty7621]

Moving products by rail by the best routes is much more environmentally desirable than by highway. Delaying projects with litigation is counterproductive in this case. Imagine telling the kayakers that they need to hold off kayaking three years until a study can be made on their environmental impact on the river.

[@railroad9000]

They want goods and products delivered but don't want the RR to do that! Can't have it both ways until the railline is fixed! Selfsish kayakers!

[@lilredsammy]

They better hurry and get the papers served, in 2 months those 3-letter agencies might not exist. #DOGE Department of Government Efficiency.

[@dangabor8585]

Indeed! Trump baby!

[@herbhall3830]

Amen I can't wait and all those 3 letter agencies were told by the sc that they can't make law only enforce laws kinda like the atf and the environmentalists ignore daily

[@eligebrown8998]

The railroad was there for years. Let them fix their damn railroad already. Theres Worse shit to worry about

[@billville9401]

they should sell the kayaks and put the money into the communities that lost everything

[@jamesharrison2374]

Well this is funny. The RR is what made TN function in this area, other wise they would still be using mules and have no roads. The beauty has brought tourist and new comers to the area that are often the ones with time for rafting and fancy homes and jacking up the prices for locals. They could just ban the boating as it could also be messing up the river.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

People would have no ROADS, without a RAILROAD?!? Wow. No, people need roads, not railroads; live in the now. Mining and drilling operations need railroads. People need that clean water to save their land and rebuild.

[@herbhall3830]

​@@deborahhopkinson5243God every time you comment you let a little more stupid out don't you?

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 We need both, and people can use the RR in an emergency to get out of these areas if necessary.

[@waterlevelroute]

It's all about vanity, people think they look good being on the virtuous side of the issue.

[@tonykane8866]

Frivolous lawsuit

[@suzylarry1]

O M G , wait until the railway is done then the riverbed can be customized to apeas the kayakers

[@Dudemieser]

Exactly

[@brianhall593]

The flood did more damage than repairing the railroad ever though about doing.

[@Chris-tb1er]

So Much Bull💩💩💩 get a Job and Quit Whining !

[@kbm3944]

CSX needs to just pay them their million and keep doing what they are doing, the storm didn't ask permission to wash the rail line and muscles out ( bet they can't even find them now anyway), and the first five trains will pay CSX back. This is why we have so much litigation, and conflict in this country over who gonna hurt a feeling and who gonna get-r-done. Also this is why we were able to respond to the damage so quickly and help our friends and neighbors. we didn't worry about government or bureaucratic B.S. and who's feelings we hurt in the process, Keep working CSX!

[@Cooter4]

Man CAN NOT destroy the environment! If these people believe the RR is destroying the area then CSX should drop the line, and the State should not fix the roads or bridges, let them suffer! What do 10 muscles provide to the world or area? Nothing!

[@patrickthebaptist-sharingt428]

They ain't crying about NFS dumping in the river (nuclear fuel services) but they wanna cry about the RR.... They are suing the tax payers the gov doesn't have any money.

[@Bill-im6nt]

Just wait a few months, they'll be suing because it hasn't been repaired soon enough.

[@johnhannahM2.0]

Railroads are governed to move military shipments. They will win this case.

[@jaywiles4609]

Get out of the way or go away

[@kennethboyer2338]

Damn, these people are stupid. Whatever was there is gone now. The RR was there long before and is grandfathered in.these people need to mind their own business. Do these fools realize that whatever was there is miles down stream.

[@joshuasteel2109]

It’s Democrats.

[@herbhall3830]

Amen and looney environmentalists

[@patmancrowley8509]

Over-concern for the local environment. We might as well almost all die and the survivors live in tee-pees on the plains to prevent damage to the environment.

[@jfraz3570]

What happens if CSX decides not to rebuild because of the lawsuits, who will suffer the most? The local public or down the road civilization.Do these boats and rafts have a license or permit to be on this waterway or do the sportsmen have a license to remove these mussel’s

[@lostinwi]

What a joke

[@n4837z]

"Common good", sometime must prevail.

[@milwaukeeroadjim9253]

If they would watch the videos of this area, there isn't a river anymore. Just bars of rock. The railroad will be helping open a channel by removing some rock to restore their railbed.

[@realtruth172]

let these guys fix the railroad the way they want everything will be fine

[@1Nanerz]

If these lawsuits weren’t a thing when the rail line was originally built, then they should hold no weight when rebuilding the line today. End of story.

[@Cnw8701]

I guess they don't want their expresso machines delivered? 😂

[@michaelsmiley15]

This is about restoring the supply chains The whole area is permanently damaged and there worried about one section And why are kayaks in a construction zone anyway

[@ML-dk7bf]

I wouldn't be kayaking for at least a year in these area's with so much raw sewage and fuel got washed into the river.

[@jenniferyow5938]

I understand we should protect our environment at all cost but your really pushing for higher prices from csx you shouldn’t sue for your own self gain and that’s clearly what’s happening your gonna put a strain on fellow businesses owners in your area. And there gonna pass the bill down to the consumer so thanks in advance for the higher cost of living. Court fees lawyer fees and what ever amount you’re seeking. Could actually go towards these environmental protocols to protect the river. Not your pocket.

[@larmo5633]

Good luck standing in the way of interstate commerce...

[@FrankGlover-k9b]

To hell with a rare muscle

[@phillipmarlowe0525]

It is my understanding that railroads own any land their tracks are on.

[@TrailRiderTN]

Navigable streams cannot be owned privately!

[@hirisk761]

​@TrailRiderTN CSX ownes the ROW. they are restoring it AND the river by fixing the damage done by Helene. but you're to narrow minded to see that. if they had abandoned it an left everything, you'd be screaming that CSX needs to fix it and restore the ROW and open the river!

[@TrailRiderTN]

@hirisk761 are you local to erwin? I am, and what they are doing is not considered "fixing" the river. CSX is doing far more than just removing their debris from the river. Glad the lawsuits were filed!

[@hirisk761]

@TrailRiderTN you're a dolt. as much water was flowing thru there, those pathetic mussels are dead and washed away. you can't prove that they are still there.

[@TrailRiderTN]

@@hirisk761 i haven't even mentioned the mussels... for me it's not about that

[@nathanmeece9794]

If they are worried about the mussels being driven over, they can go move them out of the way

[@badboysfpv1724]

the federal government should have nothing to with states

[@matthewgibson4309]

These mussels can be found in rivers everywhere they are not endangered imo

[@warrennorton8737]

Really, spoiled narcistic folks joyfully kayaking past suffering people, absolutely unacceptable, why not try to help the people.

[@ShawnCalay]

Thats it! Im gonna suevthe hippies, CSX, everyone that left comments here.....hell sue everybody .....im gonna file a lawsuit tomorrow, everyone from age 2 on up from new york to California and chicago to texas!

[@Critical-Thinker895]

They probably don't even live around there.

[@GodBlessedAmerica]

Is there anything the government has done that’s a positive thing?

[@jeanlawson9133]

CSX. And Army Corps of engineers.....Do your job... forget this nonsense take back the river from the kayaking.....it could damage the ecosystem....and endanger the animal life...

[@dknowles60]

the southern Environmental law center has Also Badly Damage the TVA

[@daveczerwinski9987]

A bunch of glorified Karen's

[@lucmarchand617]

They boycott this kayak outfit on spot.I work pipelines western canada we got case same they lost business permit overnight yup no joke because river crossing was under river yes folks due noise for fish augers machine.CSX is due locomotive too big for fish yup.😊

[@robdargan6603]

You’ve got to be kidding !

[@jerryshelton1481]

These people are evil

[@Lakeman3211]

They have no chance at altering big business repairs…the river scoured those river beds clean if anything so nature will have to rebuild itself too…

[@lewisf9266]

Even the Biden administration approved this

[@boydwalker161]

Similar to what The Sierra Club did with a new bridge over the Saint Croix River between Stillwater Mn and Houlton Wisconsin, stopping the bridge construction in 1995 completely. The project went through the courts over and over and over and over until a bill passed through congress and signed by President Obama in 2012. Construction began 2013,,, opening August 2017.

[@ericglasgow1616]

Shit happens i dont like the gov but in this case do what you have to

[@ericglasgow1616]

The flood messed it up already and they are mostly not there now anyway and look at how much shit that the flood wash in there im all for cheapping the river clean this shit is a joke and a wast of money and time that you need to put in to good use

[@frankk1538]

We need “loser pays” tort reform to end this kind of frivolous bull shit.

[@truthseeker8310]

CSX railing may loose there railroad to tree huggers. no wait! wealth railroad sued my natural life activist. can anyone sue the storm. mother nature put on trial. God help us we are all lost!

[@ram64man]

Carry on working Activists , a mussel, mussel…move the mussel . Jobs trump wildlife

[@chappelln]

Yall Should have asked what exact laws are being broken & list each one of them. Also point it out with actual evidence to back up the claims. For all that I see CSX is not the only one in the riverbed, and CSX is not the only one digging in the river & removing debris and other materials that don't belong in the river. Apparently, also, these nonprofit organizations apparently have no clue about Federal Disaster Declarations Laws. Not forgetting interstate commerce laws. I have a very good friend that is a employee with a state of North Carolina and earlier this past week, he got to meet with American Whitewater and SELC they could not produce the best evidence showing that the law is being broken. Nor could they resort to any laws that are actually Being broken under a disaster declaration. The only evidence that they had was video and photos from a distance. These organizations & very few locals have no clue that if they hamper the recovery efforts by CSX & the cost skyrocket to repair the railline then CSX just may let the line go completely and abandon it years down the road. Which would cost losing high paying jobs in a area that has few high paying jobs like the railroad. The railline befor the disaster was only seeing 5 to 8 trains a day. But then I pretty well expect, this is going to be thrown out in court.

[@markdanielczyk944]

Yeah, this is gonna go well!🤦

[@eddielane9569]

How do they know the endangered muscles did not get destroyed in the massive flooding! Much of the river was changed dramatically by the forceful flow of water and rock.

[@jhenderson3037]

Land grab-----put the railroad back

[@michaelrocker9000]

Commerce in the river? Is there commercial traffic on the river? CSX needs to rebuild their infrastructure to keep their commerce going, These people have no consideration of other people out of work because of Helene.

[@Greatdome99]

I think somebody ought to sue God. He started it and He did more damage than CSX.

[@guest6423]

God died a long time ago.

[@Billybobo7575]

wow.......just wow.....

[@nattydreadlocks1973]

I get it. Kayaking companies had to wait three years on a environmental study but the railroad doesn't. They have a right to be pissed.

[@2upblacktopriders]

Think of how much needed repair materials can be brought in on those trains .. .

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

This was a natural disaster, anything that was on the riverbed is long gone. It will cone back eventually, but holding up the process isn’t going to help. It will just delay the return to normalcy. These rafters need to take a breath.

[@edmaphet6]

What's next? Are those idiots going up stream and telling people who lost there cars and houses to get there stuff out of the water or they will be sued? Were does this stuff end and helping out others begin? The Railroads are always under attack and this needs to stop.

[@kylecampbell1444]

So 25ft of water didn't damage it? The river is deeper than it ever was and they really think this is doing much more damage? Dumb

[@buddymoore6504]

This country would have never been built if this is how it was done back then, the storm wrecked the gorge, the real environmental catastrophe here Cleaning up all the track, bridges and displaced rock will do damage to the river bed if you will notice the river is full off rock used to build railway originally and added over time I would only ask that they get as much of the non native rocks out. the river doesn't look like itself with all that ballast and rip-rap in it loving the environment doesn't make you a bad person, wanting the impossible does Nothing is ever perfect and zero amounts of lawyers from the government suing each other helps anyone, including the river

[@dwightsturtevant3169]

environmental groups ARE NUTS THE RR NEEDS NO PERMISSION TO FIX TRACKS

[@PahaSapaRepresentative23]

All the indigenous tribes of North Carolina better step up and make a stand for the water, animals, humans, natural resources!!!! The oteci sakowin stands with you, the lands are in our prayers,,,,, we have to think about the 7 generations not even born yet. What will be left for them ? Including the animals and natural resources…. ❤

[@xmodpro234]

wow, imagine how tough it has to be to mind your own fucking business. The railroad needs to be repaired and restored to service.