3 federal agencies sued over CSX rail repair work in Nolichucky Gorge

[@kevinsimmons5646]

What idiots. That Railroad needs to be fixed now. Somebody needs to tell them to go away and shut the hell up!!

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

The American worship of the god, Greed, even when it harms the people worshiping it, has always amazed me. People need that clean water, in order to survive, but you don't want that; you want a railroad...for the lithium mining? Interesting.

[@gunrunner7224]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 The real world runs on logistics, and with the roads being wrecked as bad or worse than the rails and with the rails being well on their way to being operational, Guess what will bring in more supplies. A functioning railroad or a semi truck with no roads and limited capacity. 🤔 .

[@jsfoster75]

Ummm, where are these "critically endangered" mussels now? Probably 200 miles downstream...

[@tonyb2760]

Do they really think the habitat wasn't severely damaged by the flood? Is this real?

[@chrywelch]

For real

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

Lol like the mussels were just hanging out, having a cup of coffee during the violent flooding? Those things are in a different time zone by now.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

@@MooseKnuckleMike, because you live there, and you've been studying them for years; you're on the ground, and can visibly see that they are gone. Wow, impressive. Thanks for the (completely false) information.

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 come back and complain after you earn a degree.

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 I’m E.P.A. certified, how about yourself?

[@2fish_tacos814]

They act like the flood didn’t wreck the gorge smh. I wonder if they have found those mussels since the flood? I doubt it. Again, those people have hated the RR for years. CSX should leave the rail and ties in the river and let the kayakers get it out if they’re so concerned.

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

Alot of the rapids were changed, true. However, the rapids were channelized in the flood, creating a lower flow window for rafting to occur according to reports from the initial descents following the hurricane.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

CSX is digging out and using the rocks, as well as anything else, for the RR, with no regard to the survival of the river. Since no Americans will be allowed to keep or rebuild on their land anyway, they won't need the clean water anymore, right? Gotta support that CORPORATE GREED, no matter how many people die!! Gotta mine those resources! How very American of you.

[@dknowles60]

@@Ripped-Inflatables that dong change the fact that CSX can just leave AND LEAVE EVERY THING IN THE rIVER

[@johnmulcahey1613]

Railroad was in place before it became a protected area, and rebuilding it is a priority for the economy. Once done and repaired it will go back to some type of normal activity. It would be different if they wanted a new rail line and disrupted the area! Wild life will thrive and return. This disaster disrupted the hole ecosystem, so the sooner they finish this the sooner it will grow back to it beautifully through way for all that love that valley and waterway.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

Your fantasy scenario sounds nice; the rest of us have to live in reality, where we need clean rivers to survive. But, you aren't worried about the survival of the people, I see; you only care about the "economy." Dead people vote, but I don't think they can support more than a tiny fraction of the economy. You must be a lithium mine investor.

[@mikemiller209]

If the shell fish are that endangered then maybe they shouldn't be rafting on those waters

[@kevinstenger4334]

And we’re supposed to believe that the mussels are just sitting there undisturbed in spite of the massive erosion caused by the storm, and any disturbance to their habitat is caused by the construction work? I think they will be fine and where they hang out will not be in the same place necessarily because of the flooding.

[@guns2317]

The odds are quite high that those super duper important mussels are now somewhere in the bottom of Douglas Lake, or scattered among the massive debris fields in Greene and Cocke Counties!

[@chrywelch]

​@@guns2317 it might end up spreading them!

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

You mean, the things that, by their very nature, bury themselves in the sand, would be gone "because of flooding?" I guess clams went extinct centuries ago, because of all the hurricane damage, too.

[@zinniaadkins9826]

Getting the rail line back open is crucial, go CSX

[@dknowles60]

and the USA

[@jamesturner6949]

Are they suing the hurricane for killing the mussels?

[@user-ud7ko4cq1n]

I hate hippies so bad. There's literally bodies still not found in that river, and they're worried about the critically endangered Eastern Tennessee Whitewater Mud Flea or some shit.

[@donaldcurtis9229]

They're not hippies they're just crazy people

[@donaldcurtis9229]

I guess their homes weren't affected by the hurricane so now they have to stir up something else

[@patrickthebaptist-sharingt428]

It's a grab to take tax money for their 501 non profit scam.

[@redburban1394]

Clams can filter a lot of toxins and other waste that is in a river, plus provide a food source for other animals.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

You rode the short bus, didn't you, along with 94 other people, apparently? That same disregard-mindset of, "CSX is more important than anything else," is the SAME MINDSET that allowed government agencies to allegedly bulldoze and hide bodies from any official count. Do you think CSX is being careful of looking for and reporting bodies, when other agencies and corporations are covering them up? With all that convenient heavy equipment, it would not surprise me at all, if those agencies and corporations PAID CSX to bury any body found in the "repairs." And here you are, cheering them on. Your ignorant hatred of people doing the work that your lazy tail refuses to do, is promoting and protecting the crimes against American people, who have lost friends and relatives there, and who NEED that river clean in order to survive.

[@TheCatman4166]

Everybody wants to sue, sue, sue

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

Maybe, because corporations and governments only know how to crime, crime, crime.

[@toddfryman6178]

Billions of dollars in damages loss of revenue not to mention garbage, sewerage , chemicals and rushing water did most of the damage… good grief they are not intentionally destroying their already altered if not totally destroyed habitat!!

[@mikeingeorgia1]

I used to be in a kayaking club and heard this stuff constantly. They’re like Karens of the river, and will do anything they can to block access to anyone else from using the river except themselves of course. That’s why I stopped paying dues and left the club. We need heavy industry way more than we need some obscure insect in the river. CSX will have a very experienced project engineer watching over everything the whole time. I’d be surprised if they don’t have crews out there working at night too. I’ve seen them bring in portable lights before. It just depends on how quickly they want it finished.

[@mikewatts3615]

In an emergency laws go out the windows, this is an emergency zone and will be for a while get over it and go somewhere else

[@stuartbuckley6113]

The shear ignorance of these people. That railway needs to be reconstructed asap. The flood has done more damage than the crews ever will by repairing it. That area will NEVER be the same again! Fools impeding needed repairs.

[@kenbishop-y2u]

This railroad line is very important to many towns in the mountain route. CSX is probably the best managed rail line in the USA. They work as clean as they can. Helene destroyed so many areas. Please let the Railroad do their work. Common sense will reenter the Government on 1-20-2025. My goodness I am sick of how our government has became so stupid.

[@chicnwing4519]

This shows the true ridiculous of environmentalists

[@jerryrigsit5400]

CSX needs that route. So freaking stupid

[@guns2317]

Absolute insanity to demand a "study" before rebuilding the railroad. Long term damage by the railroad building? Did you all happen to notice the MASSIVE damage done by the flood waters? Utterly bizarre. GO CSX! Get er done!

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

So, different rules for different corporations?

[@dknowles60]

YEAH

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

...because living, natural people don't need clean water. No, no, no, trucks don't exist, so we gotta have a choo-choo! Live in the now, yes?

[@guns2317]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 LOLZ. Did you see what happened to the river 2 months ago? Your argument flies in the face of logic. Big whoop, a truck gets driven over the river bed to help return a vital industry to service. Guess you don't care about the shipping and other jobs associated with CSX? Did you fail to see all the problems with trucking happening across the mountains all over this area? Why, exactly is that happening? Because there are no rail routes and more stuff needs to move by truck, using our very restricted and damaged roads.. Do you think that our water comes out of the river and STRAIGHT to our homes? Hint - it does not and is treated heavily before being sent out. I am sure that the disturbed river bed does not cause any sort of problem with the water treatment plants miles and miles away. Bye bye!

[@dknowles60]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 How young are you, the us has some of the Best air and clean water in the Whole world, please feel free to make a fool out of your Self at Any time

[@tomt9543]

The railroad has been in the gorge for 110 years. The things that are going on during this reconstruction are the exact same thing that was done to construct this line over 100 years ago, and although many of these whiners weren’t alive to see it, floods in 1977 caused similar reconstruction to the line. The river that they’ve been paddling through, and are so fond of, is the result of that 70’s work. If you people would just chill out, let these contractors do their work, and realize that the end result will show far less damage by man than what Mother Nature wreaked on this gorge! Think of the people whose lives were turned upside down by this flood, and how long it will take for them to get back to their normal lives. Kayakers and rafters aren’t exempt to the period of recovery. CSX knows this very much in the public eye, and I’m sure they don’t want the PR circus that would result from a botched job! And as for the mussel bs, give me break! You don’t, and never have, given a crap about clams in the river! I’m also sure that equipment crossing the river at one specific location at Poplar will have minimal to no long term effect on the river! I’ll end this by saying that I’m a fellow kayaker, and retired railroader.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

"Retired railroader;" what a surprise. If people are going to return to THEIR LAND and rebuild, they'll need the clean water of that river, much more than they need a railroad. The mines need the railroad. People need trucks. The American people or the railroad; which do you support, "retired railroader?"

[@tomt9543]

@ If you were to take the time to research this a bit, you’d find that this rail line is a very heavily used route for traffic between the Midwest and southeast. If it was insignificant, the millions being spent wouldn’t happen! And the trucks you reference are very frequent users of the railroads! UPS, FED EX, JB Hunt, Amazon etc all are major users of the rail system in this country because they can move hundreds, if not thousands, of truck trailers and shipping containers from one side of the US to the other without using a single driver. The exceptional minerals from the Spruce Pine area that are used worldwide due to their high quality move on this railroad, and that equals jobs at those facilities! Anyhow, we’ll see who wins in the end, and I’ll bet we both do! The trains will run again, and paddlers will joyfully float to Erwin, after drying their tears and feeding the clams! And as far as “American people “, who do you think maintains this railroad, the track, signals, rolling equipment, and runs the trains? These are American people who call this area home, most of them for their entire life! So your claim of the locals not needing the railroad is without merit! It actually steps on the toes of the American people that you claim to support!

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

​@@tomt9543, I didn't say the RR was insignificant; I said that people need clean water more, and that people rely on trucks for what they need. Railroads are important FOR INDUSTRY, which have declared record profits since 2019, while the American people slide into the gutter (or grave.) Americans are looking for jobs, based solely on whether or not they can make more money than they lose working there, and if that tiny bit of positive will be enough to pay the electricity or mortgage. No matter what they do, or how much money they make, they see that they are losing the ability to even buy all natural food (natural, not organic, which can be GMO,) at the same time they are learning how everything in the stores negatively affect their health (and the future of their children.) People are finally realizing that record profits for industries does not equate to good jobs (or even any jobs) for them (major corporations firing Americans, and then hiring "new visitors" for less, or simply moving out of the country comes to mind.) I know people want to believe that we are just going through a "bad time," and we'll all be okay in the end, and my heart breaks over their inaction (frog in the pot,) but when I saw DoD Directive 5240.01 and the mercenary camps set up in the area (by their own admission, they "aggressively" protect the interests of their clients at those camps and outside of the camps, not just for FEMA,) I knew that the people in that area WILL be removed for industrial interests. Those camps are set up in conflict zones, where their clients are doing something so egregious to the local population that the country's police and military cannot or will not protect the corporate actions against the people to get those resources out of there. Locals won't need that railroad, because only corporate employees will be allowed to remain. If people took the time to RESEARCH what is really going on, they'd be defending a blade of grass, let alone clams.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

On a side note, since you claim to like research, read the CDC's "Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Interim Operational Considerations for Implementing the Shielding Approach to Prevent COVID-19 Infections in Humanitarian Settings. Updated July 26, 2020." It states in there that "older adults" (when I had the HS training, it was age 55, then it dropped to 50, and now it is "older adults") and people with disabilities or pre-existing health problems of any age should be removed from the population to save limited resources. After they are removed, then isolate the rest of the population's infected for treatment. What is going on here with land-taking for industrial interests was placed under the Wildlands Project. The crimes against people I learned working on that project made me quit and leave D.C. There are thousands of corporations under all these different projects, which are under the UN Agendas (they are all associated with the WEF for the benefit of the public, but I never once worked with the WEF on any of those agendas.) The US congress passed the Digital Dollar laws (yes, more than one) in 2019. The UK is "testing" the Digital ID on 250,000 of their veterans in 2025. There is a LOT to research out there.

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 Some gravel and heavy rocks are not gonna pollute the river.

[@jeffoliver3774]

I guess that they don't want the Corp of Engineers and the local people to build the roads and move the debris either as it might affect a fly or something.

[@josephlalock8378]

lets see what dude has to say when he has to wipe his ass with a clam because no trains are there to bring him toilet paper.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

There's this cool, new invention, called a "truck." Look it up.

[@herbhall3830]

​@@deborahhopkinson5243yeah you claim to care about the environment by trucking in everything when the train can do thousands of times more work and not only cheaper but cleaner by a long shot!

[@SteamCrane]

​@@deborahhopkinson5243 A truck carries a fraction of what a train can, and pollutes many times as much per ton hauled. So you get much more pollution.

[@charleskovalewski5210]

you think there is any mussels left after the flood?what bull!the railroad was there before.get out of their way and let them build.

[@dknowles60]

YEAH

[@herbhall3830]

Amen

[@ML-dk7bf]

They still exist, in the nearest downstream lake.

[@dknowles60]

@@ML-dk7bf that would be the Mississippi in they live. i been tpld by TVA dam workers they were killed by the TVA dams

[@raykes9549]

Unbelievable. The river is destroyed. This is the most stupid thing I have ever heard of. I guess if someone wants to rebuild their home after being destroyed and accidently dump a bucket of dirt in the river they will be taken to court. This is Unbelievable. SAD😢

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

It's not putting things in the river, it's actively removing the new repairian zone, they were told to halt activity 5 ft vertically from the river, which they promptly ignored.

[@TreeLBollingTreeMan]

@@Ripped-Inflatables Go float your rubber ducky in your moma's tub.

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@Ripped-Inflatables Most of our rivers are a hundred feet wider than they used to be, unless they start blasting (Which will do more damage.) there's no space for them to shift the railroad to.

[@eligebrown8998]

The railroad was there for years. Let them fix their damn railroad already. Theres Worse shit to worry about

[@joshuasteel2109]

It’s Democrats.

[@herbhall3830]

Amen and looney environmentalists

[@jaywiles4609]

Get out of the way or go away

[@railroad9000]

They want goods and products delivered but don't want the RR to do that! Can't have it both ways until the railline is fixed! Selfsish kayakers!

[@brianhall593]

The flood did more damage than repairing the railroad ever though about doing.

[@TezcatlipocaMountedRailfan]

If this lawsuit prevents CSX from rebuilding this longtime artery, we could permanently lose the original Clinchfield mainline route. It’s truly a miracle we didn’t lose the 800 or the historic rolling stock, but with this major washout taking what is now considered a major line for shipping through the difficult to navigate Blue Ridge Mountain Range, hindering it’s reconstruction will not only be detrimental to the economy of Western NC, but is also preventing the revival of this historic line that has slithered through the foothills of East TN and West NC for more than a century. This route is a part of our history here in the southeast, and no ya n kee tourist should be allowed to challenge that. I digress.

[@laurakilmer8652]

So some kayakers know more than anyone attempting to build back a needed railway. Damn What else is new ?

[@s197_carti]

How are they supposed to restore the railroad line without doing certain things, they can’t just leave the rails and ties in the river, these guys are pretty dumb.

[@randymckenzie6730]

mining the rock out of the river fixes the roadbed AND cleans up the river so it wont flood as easy next time. Once its fixed the tree huggers can go back to whatever they do.

[@handysmith-kv1tc]

Mainly whine & bitch.🤣🤣

[@Chris-tb1er]

So Much Bull💩💩💩 get a Job and Quit Whining !

[@michaelsmiley15]

This is about restoring the supply chains The whole area is permanently damaged and there worried about one section And why are kayaks in a construction zone anyway

[@ML-dk7bf]

I wouldn't be kayaking for at least a year in these area's with so much raw sewage and fuel got washed into the river.

[@lilredsammy]

They better hurry and get the papers served, in 2 months those 3-letter agencies might not exist. #DOGE Department of Government Efficiency.

[@dangabor8585]

Indeed! Trump baby!

[@herbhall3830]

Amen I can't wait and all those 3 letter agencies were told by the sc that they can't make law only enforce laws kinda like the atf and the environmentalists ignore daily

[@ryanfindstruth]

Someone needs to sue the environmental groups for hampering emergency recovery efforts.

[@suzylarry1]

O M G , wait until the railway is done then the riverbed can be customized to apeas the kayakers

[@421Rider]

Between 1986 and 2006 I paddled the Nolichucky Gorge more times than I can count. It is a national treasure. I'm also a tree hugger from way back, but this is ludicrous. Short of building a dam there is nothing CSX can do to approach the damage to the habitat done by the flood. I would also point out to those who still are able to enjoy this river that CSX engineers have evacuated injured boaters in the past and might not be so quick to render aid if litigation poisons the relationship.

[@dknowles60]

YEAH

[@waterlevelroute]

It's all about vanity, people think they look good being on the virtuous side of the issue.

[@alwhalen3488]

Just imagine what our Country would be had people like this interfered with the original railroad construction all over the continent that built this Nation, or even the Interstate roads that continue to support our economy along with the railroads?

[@Critical-Thinker895]

They probably don't even live around there.

[@jamesharrison2374]

Well this is funny. The RR is what made TN function in this area, other wise they would still be using mules and have no roads. The beauty has brought tourist and new comers to the area that are often the ones with time for rafting and fancy homes and jacking up the prices for locals. They could just ban the boating as it could also be messing up the river.

[@deborahhopkinson5243]

People would have no ROADS, without a RAILROAD?!? Wow. No, people need roads, not railroads; live in the now. Mining and drilling operations need railroads. People need that clean water to save their land and rebuild.

[@herbhall3830]

​@@deborahhopkinson5243God every time you comment you let a little more stupid out don't you?

[@ML-dk7bf]

@@deborahhopkinson5243 We need both, and people can use the RR in an emergency to get out of these areas if necessary.

[@Bill-im6nt]

Just wait a few months, they'll be suing because it hasn't been repaired soon enough.

[@jerryshelton1481]

These people are evil

[@lostinwi]

What a joke

[@n4837z]

"Common good", sometime must prevail.

[@JD-zm4eh]

Railroads are a vital transportation of products people use each day, are these people against food and supplies getting to their local grocery stores and shops? Repairs need to commence without interuption for the region to regain stability.

[@dknowles60]

the southern Environmental law center has Also Badly Damage the TVA

[@Cooter4]

Man CAN NOT destroy the environment! If these people believe the RR is destroying the area then CSX should drop the line, and the State should not fix the roads or bridges, let them suffer! What do 10 muscles provide to the world or area? Nothing!

[@patrickthebaptist-sharingt428]

They ain't crying about NFS dumping in the river (nuclear fuel services) but they wanna cry about the RR.... They are suing the tax payers the gov doesn't have any money.

[@FrankGlover-k9b]

To hell with a rare muscle

[@billville9401]

they should sell the kayaks and put the money into the communities that lost everything

[@patmancrowley8509]

Over-concern for the local environment. We might as well almost all die and the survivors live in tee-pees on the plains to prevent damage to the environment.

[@Cnw8701]

I guess they don't want their expresso machines delivered? 😂

[@dknowles60]

the gorge was trash by the flood CSX sure cant Make it any beter

[@GodBlessedAmerica]

Is there anything the government has done that’s a positive thing?

[@kbm3944]

CSX needs to just pay them their million and keep doing what they are doing, the storm didn't ask permission to wash the rail line and muscles out ( bet they can't even find them now anyway), and the first five trains will pay CSX back. This is why we have so much litigation, and conflict in this country over who gonna hurt a feeling and who gonna get-r-done. Also this is why we were able to respond to the damage so quickly and help our friends and neighbors. we didn't worry about government or bureaucratic B.S. and who's feelings we hurt in the process, Keep working CSX!

[@phillipmarlowe0525]

It is my understanding that railroads own any land their tracks are on.

[@TrailRiderTN]

Navigable streams cannot be owned privately!

[@daveczerwinski9987]

A bunch of glorified Karen's

[@matthewgibson4309]

These mussels can be found in rivers everywhere they are not endangered imo

[@lewisf9266]

Even the Biden administration approved this

[@nathanmeece9794]

If they are worried about the mussels being driven over, they can go move them out of the way

[@AppalachianRailroader_]

Ha! We will not stop until our line is rebuilt. Suck it hippies. Our company does what it wants to on its own property.

[@badboysfpv1724]

the federal government should have nothing to with states

[@realtruth172]

let these guys fix the railroad the way they want everything will be fine

[@robdargan6603]

You’ve got to be kidding !

[@ShawnCalay]

Thats it! Im gonna suevthe hippies, CSX, everyone that left comments here.....hell sue everybody .....im gonna file a lawsuit tomorrow, everyone from age 2 on up from new york to California and chicago to texas!

[@miniaturefarmer464]

Railroads are governed to move military shipments. They will win this case.

[@larmo5633]

Good luck standing in the way of interstate commerce...

[@1Nanerz]

If these lawsuits weren’t a thing when the rail line was originally built, then they should hold no weight when rebuilding the line today. End of story.

[@ram64man]

Carry on working Activists , a mussel, mussel…move the mussel . Jobs trump wildlife

[@milwaukeeroadjim9253]

If they would watch the videos of this area, there isn't a river anymore. Just bars of rock. The railroad will be helping open a channel by removing some rock to restore their railbed.

[@lewisdoherty7621]

Moving products by rail by the best routes is much more environmentally desirable than by highway. Delaying projects with litigation is counterproductive in this case. Imagine telling the kayakers that they need to hold off kayaking three years until a study can be made on their environmental impact on the river.

[@jhenderson3037]

Land grab-----put the railroad back

[@jfraz3570]

What happens if CSX decides not to rebuild because of the lawsuits, who will suffer the most? The local public or down the road civilization.Do these boats and rafts have a license or permit to be on this waterway or do the sportsmen have a license to remove these mussel’s

[@ericglasgow1616]

Shit happens i dont like the gov but in this case do what you have to

[@ericglasgow1616]

The flood messed it up already and they are mostly not there now anyway and look at how much shit that the flood wash in there im all for cheapping the river clean this shit is a joke and a wast of money and time that you need to put in to good use

[@tonykane8866]

Frivolous lawsuit

[@eddielane9569]

How do they know the endangered muscles did not get destroyed in the massive flooding! Much of the river was changed dramatically by the forceful flow of water and rock.

[@bestfriendhank1424]

That’s why the waterways need to be privatized.

[@glennevitt5250]

This is all about money they’ll tie them up for decades😎

[@lucmarchand617]

They boycott this kayak outfit on spot.I work pipelines western canada we got case same they lost business permit overnight yup no joke because river crossing was under river yes folks due noise for fish augers machine.CSX is due locomotive too big for fish yup.😊

[@truthseeker8310]

CSX railing may loose there railroad to tree huggers. no wait! wealth railroad sued my natural life activist. can anyone sue the storm. mother nature put on trial. God help us we are all lost!

[@warrennorton8737]

Really, spoiled narcistic folks joyfully kayaking past suffering people, absolutely unacceptable, why not try to help the people.

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

This was a natural disaster, anything that was on the riverbed is long gone. It will cone back eventually, but holding up the process isn’t going to help. It will just delay the return to normalcy. These rafters need to take a breath.

[@jenniferyow5938]

I understand we should protect our environment at all cost but your really pushing for higher prices from csx you shouldn’t sue for your own self gain and that’s clearly what’s happening your gonna put a strain on fellow businesses owners in your area. And there gonna pass the bill down to the consumer so thanks in advance for the higher cost of living. Court fees lawyer fees and what ever amount you’re seeking. Could actually go towards these environmental protocols to protect the river. Not your pocket.

[@markdanielczyk944]

Yeah, this is gonna go well!🤦

[@Greatdome99]

I think somebody ought to sue God. He started it and He did more damage than CSX.

[@guest6423]

God died a long time ago.

[@GrandFunked]

Bunch of cry babies.

[@philk8188]

Everybody wants there 15 seconds no matter how stupid it may be.

[@tonykane8866]

Yeah, who cares if you know, if it has to do with commerce or moving product at goes to grocery stores or maples, make a product that you use cares.We don't need that

[@LordDustinDeWynd]

Idiots. REPLACING track means rebuilding, not (necessarily) building new. A temporary inconvenience for a few people for a short time. Versus many MORE years of transport capability. The railroad was there before the kayakers were born.

[@billybob3322]

wow.......just wow.....

[@laurakilmer8652]

Did you find a snail darter also. !!!!!!!!!!!! B S

[@Gemni65]

America protect those whatever’s 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DaleSwansonNPO]

I am happy to report that today I did not see active mining of the river bottom at Souse Hole rapid where they have reduced the foundation cobble from 10 to 15 feet above the waterline (which is extremely low and normal for this time of year) down to just a foot or two above making almost impossible for the forest to return since those bottoms will be under water 50% of the year. I am not against the rebuilding of the railroad. But I am against making the river more dangerous, less forested, and less cable of protecting Erwin and downstream drinking water supplies during normal floods that come a few times a year. With the trees gone the sediment load will increase. With the rocks gone the sediment load of small floods will wash straight. Through the gorge and deposit in the stream bed downstream of Chestoa with unpredictable results. It’s worth thinking of the Nolichucky as a mythic dragon that sleeps for an age or two until it wakes up to rearrange its nest. The craftsmanship of the original builders of the Clinchfiield - the beautiful 110 year old dry-stacked stone embankments in the middle gorge and the concrete embankment wall at the old Lost Cove siding finished in 1909 - are truly something to behold. The dry stack embankments had been hidden from view by the riparian forests - but they remain where so much of the rail bed and sub-base washed away down to bedrock. I could go on. Love the railroad but hate being foolish and short-sighted.

[@RobertMatson-n1g]

Stupid

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

I will believe that last statement when I see it. There are two quarries on the rail line that can bring all the rock you need. Sylva and Nantahala. The line connects, get your bridge up and there is no need for in stream activity beyond removing the rails.

[@dknowles60]

Cost Even the People repairing the Roads are Useing river Rock, Hint the Roads and Rail roal are Damage Fool

[@Ripped-Inflatables]

@@dknowles60 your grammar is lower than my 4th grade daughter... Hope you paid more attention in science.

[@dknowles60]

@@Ripped-Inflatables Cant handle the truth fool

[@MarshallCountycorruption]

Sounds like the government doesn't have the same rules for different companies. This is common practice of the government.

[@wolfpacva]

CSX could care less about the river all they care about is the tracks period.

[@dknowles60]

Do you thing the People fixing the Roads are could Care less about the River

[@tylersebring8045]

Why are you busting on csx when roads and housing developments are the problem

[@wolfpacva]

@@tylersebring8045 cause CSX does not care about anyone but themselves

[@dknowles60]

@@wolfpacva nice lie

[@conrail666]

Good luck lol

[@odonnelletsu]

Half of Unicoi Co's economy is based on the tourism connected with the gorge. The railroad doesn't get to just jackhammer the whole thing with no regard to how they're affecting everybody else. Slow down, take a few weeks to figure out the best way to do it. What they're doing now will affect the place for hundreds of years.

[@dknowles60]

Unicoi dont have a Say, CSX is under Fed Gov Rules, there is a lot of people fixing the Roads doing the Same thing

[@lilredsammy]

If you don't raft how do you get into the gorge? If you walk along the tracks you are tresspassing. CSX has had a VERY lax approach knowing this is the only way it can be accessed on foot. That can change instantly. Every locomotive has high def cameras pointing outward. The company could tell the railroaders to report everyone they see on the radio, it will be relayed local law enforcement, before the people exit the gorge the police will have photo in hand of the act of tresspassing. Or they could station rr police at each end to prevent entrance altogether just to get back at the community for such a frivolous case.

[@herbhall3830]

​Yes indeed! Ive lived near conrail most of my life! They were pretty cool with the neighborhood kids but not with the citiots that came up in the summer to wreck our way of life! They live in shit holes come up to the beautiful upstate area and tell us how we are destroying our countryside! I tell them too f off and go back to the beautiful city they ruined! ​