3 Patches for Complex Oscillators // Mindphaser from Hexinverter & Erica Synths (Eurorack demo)

[@michaelsorhaindo5167]

Aiaiaiaiaiaii my favourite module!! Feel so lucky to have one of the originals and happy that Erica is making these available for everyone!

[@DivKid]

Yeah it's great to see these come back and it's a great module, I can see why it's a favourite.

[@oldschoolebm666]

How does it compare to the original?? 100% clone or distinct tonal differences?

[@michaelsorhaindo5167]

@@oldschoolebm666I‘m sure Erica I wouldn‘t mess this up but without looking at the components I wouldn’t know. The sonic range of the mindphaser is so huge, anyone would be lying if they said they could hear a difference between the original and this from three patches via KZbin.

[@Gin-toki]

The second patch was my favorite. Would love to hear a full fledged techno track based on that! Thanks for the great demo :)

[@DivKid]

thank you, appreciate that. Yeah I'd have liked to spend some more time with that one and see where it could go in a longer piece.

[@stateazure]

Last patch was beautiful, Ben. Reminded me of Petter - These Days, from 2003. A classic.

[@DivKid]

thank you, I don't know that piece though so I'll go listen.

[@na-dj6ob]

@@DivKid The patch sound op is referring to is the melody on "Petter - These Days" starting at 2 min 54 seconds here :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3-We6aXfbWJqs0

[@kristoferjoseph]

That third idea has me building a new patch at the moment. Thanks again for the inspiration!

[@DivKid]

Glad to hear it, hope it leads to some good sounds and music.

[@billnmaree]

Glad this module is finally getting the attention it deserves. Last patch was worth the video.

[@DivKid]

thanks, glad you liked the last one.

[@synkrotron]

Patch 3 for me 🙂 that's one hell of a complex oscillator... thanks for the quick demo's, Ben 👍

[@DivKid]

thanks for the comments and support, I appreciate it. I couldn't give this justice in terms of the full on in depth DivKid demo treatment but I was glad I got to play and share some patch ideas. I'll try to do that more often so I can get more out there for people.

[@synkrotron]

@@DivKid oh, yeah, this module could eat up a good hour plus

[@darylccc]

Fantastic as always! Looking forward to hearing more in the full demo. Super happy to see this come back out as Stacy (and Hexinverter) put an absolutely insane amount of work into this design.

[@DivKid]

Yeah Stacy's work on it was insane, I remember all that happening at the time and it shows in the quality of the end result. Erica Synths did a great job remaking this and only tweaking what they needed to in order to produce them. It sounds and feels like the original batch Stacy did.

[@pedroeustache5511]

Last one, HANDS DOWN Ben!! BRILLIANT!! GENIUS!!

[@DivKid]

Thank you so much, really appreciate the support.

[@billmcnelis5999]

Oh yeah and it's so very nice to watch a concise video that isn't all "HEY FAM TODAY WE'RE GONNA ME ME ME AND I'LL GIVE ALL KINDS OF ASIDES AND COOL AND I THINK I'M FUNNY" etc. I wish everyone made videos like this.

[@michaelt_tamtam]

Oh man, I've always wanted you to do a video on this module. I'm from Montreal, Canada, just like Hexinverter and this module has been on my wishlist since the beginning

[@DivKid]

Ah cool, glad that finally happened then. Looking forward to going deeper into it later on.

[@michaelt_tamtam]

@@DivKid awesome, I was hoping to see more videos on this crazy module!

[@Nanotopia]

#3 gave me some ideas to try with the DPO. Thank you!

[@DivKid]

You're welcome, hope those ideas lead to good patches.

[@tris421]

the last patch was my fav niceeee

[@DivKid]

thanks

[@ChrisWoodBandit]

whoooooooa man I really love how that sounds. It is very beautiful. My favorite is the 3rd one. The modulations you put on it were very much like "tugging" at you like how good songs do. As another person said I had to stop watching and go try to setup something that made me feel like that did. Very well done on the instrument and the video!

[@DivKid]

thanks a lot for the thoughtful comment. I hope it led some good results trying these things out.

[@axis_8]

Great 3rd patch. Thanks for the explanation.👍

[@DivKid]

thanks for the support and comment

[@corticallarvae]

I find it pairs insanely well with two angle grinders from schlappi

[@PWMaarten]

Haha, that module name always cracks me up.

[@DivKid]

ah nice, I bet it does! The 100 Grit would make for a nice filer over that main out too, or making layers with the other wave outs to go alongside the main out.

[@Phantom_Communique]

The most impressive part of this video is limiting it to only three patches 😂 If you ever feel like doing a 6 hour deep dive mindphaser seminar, I’d watch every minute.

[@DivKid]

haha yeah takes some doing, definitely an easy module to go down (glorious) rabbit hole with.

[@billmcnelis5999]

That second one was my favorite. I'm not a modular guy but somehow I made something that sounded similar (but less complex) - it sounded like there was some swing on the arp?

[@johncuba1612]

Yeeeaaahhh, I have also the Orginal Modul form Stacey ! This 1 & Sputnik Variable Wave Generator are my A&B Top OSC´s! btw: Patch 3 is just divine

[@DivKid]

Thank you. I have the Sputnik complex oscillator and really liked that one, never had the single VCO but I heard good things.

[@randydarklight]

I have the Brenso. It would be cool if you could make more video about Complex Oscilators. I have the feeling that I'm not using it to its full potential.

[@bazzhula]

Much like yourself could do with an st modular oberhausen tutorial myself but we can hope for a tutorial or in my case probably divine inspiration might be required

[@DivKid]

I don't have a Bresno but a lot of it is cross compatible as they're based on similar things. I'll be getting into an in depth video with this one in the future.

[@Nick-kb6jd]

Psytrance in a box. ACE!

[@DivKid]

Yeah absolutely gets into that easily. Much wider ranging in tone and use cases than shown here though.

[@TonydeKaro]

Yayyy 👏👏👏

[@DivKid]

Thanks! :)

[@PylonRecordsdotcom]

Last Patch sounds amazing, now if we could have it to play chords.

[@DivKid]

there's always multitrack recording multiple layers. Or you could go duo phonic with two notes on this one, if you were to do that one thing I like to do is two oscillators as two voices (nice and simple) but then having a third layer which is an interactive sound between the two, with some FM, ring modulation or something between them. That way you get a related but new more complex tone to bring in and out against the simpler two voices.

[@blindianajones]

For that second patch, that underlying layer you talked about the 6:45 mark, I hear that technique a lot in songs by NIN, etc. Does that have a production name or term? Ive heard you say pedal tones but not sure if that underlying swooshy verb layer is the same concept. Oh, and do you normally tune that toa root note or anything like that? Thanks

[@DivKid]

I don't think it has a name specifically, it's creating an ambient background layer from part of one of the more forward layers in the mix (in this case the main synth riff). It's something I've done a lot with so I have layers to work with in mixes. If I was say making an acidic bassline where a saw wave went into a low pass filter and that was the main riff. I might take the square wave from the same VCO, high pass it or EQ to remove loads of bass and lower mids and then use the higher harmonics that are left to wash out the background with a delay and/or reverb. Good reference to NiN I've definitely heard it there. You can also do it with just running the root note (ie no sequencing of pitch involved) on a background layer, a bit like disco strings, where they'd just sustain one higher note over moving bass and chords.

[@blindianajones]

@@DivKid Thanks and thats exactly what I wanted to steal from you.

[@DivKid]

steal away, ideas are always open to be taken and built upon. Hope you get some good results.

[@banksideleopards2569]

Speaking complex Osc, it could be nice to have a review of the Warp from Neuzeit instr....

[@DivKid]

Indeed it would, I don't have any of their modules but would like to check them out and make videos.

[@banksideleopards2569]

@@DivKid I'm often playing the Quasar with the Instruo Arbhar, it always gives great 3D stereo sonic exploration. I love this module, the menu diving is cleverly done to....

[@Silkynight]

The third one 🙏

[@DivKid]

thank you :)

[@n0tett]

Dumb question, should I worry about blank panels? Divkid seems not to but modwiggler seems split? Edit: in regard to causing a possible short.

[@DivKid]

worry about them as is worry about something falling into the case? On a vertical case it's unlikely something will fall backwards into my stacked up cases. I'm not that precious about some space, however I do love a good blank panel too (see the DivKid one!). So if I've a gap to fill, I'll grab a blank more often than not. The issue of a short would be a screw or something else that will pass current going onto a power board of bus board and shorting the pins. It's not an impossibility. You can just cut some cardboard out if you don't want to spend anything on covering the gaps in your cases.

[@n0tett]

@@DivKid ahhh OK, I thought there was concern over a loose patch cable possibly hitting a pin. Thanks Divkid!

[@snörre23]

​@@n0tett happens easily on a skiff laying down

[@DivKid]

yeah a patch cable could hit a pin on the power too. Again not impossible and as snorrevonflake mentions on a skiff or briefcase style system lying down it's easier for it to happen.

[@Toughinger]

Hey div kid I’ve got a question , doesn’t realy fits the Thema , but what please is the difference between eastcoast andvwestcoast style in techno? …. 🤨

[@DivKid]

it's often said the difference is in how the idea of tone and modulating it changes. East coast rich waveforms (saw/square) and filters to carve out harmonics. Then West Coast is simple waveforms (sine/triangle) and folders/FM/AM to create further harmonics. But both approaches are often available on each type of system. But there's also the musical approach to consider, Moog (East Coast) with a traditional keyboard and say Buchla with touch interfaces, non standard keyboards etc. Attaching that to techno I don't think changes anything. You can play around with all and everything, especially in a Eurorack system for techno or other styles.

[@Toughinger]

@@DivKid thank u div kid

[@DjRafiV]

Ufffffff🎉

[@DivKid]

indeed, it can certainly ugh and uff :)