3 Ways to Treat DI Guitars

[@DommoDommo]

When A/Bing effects don't stop and start the clip, keep playing and turn the effect on and off it makes it easier to actually notice the difference, kinda like what you did at the end!

[@karolscovers1651]

Something must be wrong with me since I like the first, unprocessed DI signal the most :/ Really useful stuff though, thanks!

[@VVVY777]

The processing introduced some serious icepick artifacts. Would need nothing less than soothe after the amp to microneedle your eardrums.

[@pinnerspinner8389]

It wasn't just you. I liked the unprocessed DI's as well.

[@natetremusic]

Hey that's the same pitch trick Daniel Braunstein used for mixing "Holy Roller!" Gonna try that out now 🔥💯

[@northtimo666]

First time I heard it used properly was by Korn in the song Here to stay. Been using that trick ever since!

[@natetremusic]

@@northtimo666 DAAAAMN now that you say that, I definitely hear it!! Mind blown, how did I never know 😭😭

[@HoshiFanatic]

My old band Outbreak Xero did it back in 2015 with a song called Perfect Drug during the bridge. Used an old Boss Octave Pedal, forgot which one but it was laying around in the studio.

[@HoshiFanatic]

Now that I'm a bit more knowledgeable about using plugins, reapitch is my go too as well. or the Octave Pedal that Neural DSP has.

[@dougleydorite]

@@HoshiFanatic they have a separate octave pedal or is it the one that’s in Gojira?

[@rockboy360]

That example at the intro sounded better than my final tones :(

[@Vicente_Moreno]

But this will fix an already OK sounding DI. If anyone here has problems with making their DI's sound brighter 1. change your strings 2. change your strings 3. clean your strings WITH DISH SOAP, I REPEAT, DISH SOAP. BOILING YOUR STRINGS ONLY WORKS FOR BASS, NOT GUITARS. 4. put a high shelf above 7k, because you want the air that new guitar strings have as generally if you boost a bit lower you will start boosting some quack and glassiness (unless that is what you want 5. if your guitar sounds bright but the decay is immediate, destroy your signal with compression and mix that in with the dry signal. 6. if you have too much noise with the 5th trick, use a low latency multiband compressor separating your low end, mid and high end as to only compress your low end for sustain 7. If your noisegate is still trash and let's a fuck load of noise when you stop playing, use an 'spectral' noise gate that detects your noise by analyzing your signal.

[@wormingnightfall6599]

Just screeened and saved this comment! Thanks a lot for your tips man\m/

[@DennisPlaysBass]

another tip - using a gate *after* the compressor does wonders, especially on bass.

[@Vicente_Moreno]

@@DennisPlaysBass do you mean like parallel comp? How can you have a DI after the compressor?

[@DennisPlaysBass]

@@Vicente_Moreno oh gosh, my dumb ass typed DI instead of gate. I fixed my comment, now it should make sense haha

[@Vicente_Moreno]

@@DennisPlaysBass maybe I'm missing something, but aren't all effect in this order: DI -> pre amp fx -> pre amp - fx loop (serial/parallel) -> poweramp -> cab/cabsim/torpedo -> post fx

[@Kalsten]

I cannot hear any change. Is that because of KZbin or what? I use a pair of JBL 305 and a Native Instruments interface. I feel quite stupid xD

[@paulmdevenney]

I can hear zero meaningful difference between the two. I cannot A/B separate them. Regardless of the audio device I tried.

[@rune288]

Tbf you will probably notice the difference when in context with a dense mix

[@joshpisawesome]

You're right, there is no difference, they must have forgotten to swap the audio

[@jordanwolff5243]

I was sitting here like, "WTF is wrong with my ears"? Thank you.

[@ajdejesus]

I feel like half the time they convince u that you're supposed to be hearing something. When there's really nothing. And u go down this rabbit hole

[@ZachBelcher94]

I genuinely prefer the sound of the guitars WITHOUT the octave effect, it felt like the tone became muddy and lots of unwanted harmonics were introduced, it sounded very artificial. Perhaps it's just my ears...

[@MattAfterlife]

Nah sounded much better

[@Silverjerk]

Not your ears, just very subjective. I prefer the octave effect; it gave the track some body and subtly changed the character, making it a bit darker without, say, shifting the entire guitar track back an octave -- I've seen engineers do this to try and emulate 7 or 8 string guitars when the original recording was made with a non-baritone 6-string. Unfortunately, something just gets missed and you're never going to get the same tone, attack, and character you'd get from having a real 7-string. That's not to say a 6-string can't sound heavy as fuck, just that it's hard to get it all the way there in the DAW. This trick does add some umph that just wasn't there before, and I liked the effect.

[@OleVinny]

Amaaaazing. This type of stuff makes me love mixing. Getting creative with interesting signal flows, making the best of our current capabilities

[@FreedomfamilyOKC]

Awesome video as usual I learned something. Thanks!!!! The EQ before the amp sim helped me a ton.

[@stephanepericat2917]

Izotope rx8 de-hum works great to remove the 60 cycle hum from DI signals

[@batdinko1]

Hello Joey would you do a reamping guitar lesson thanks in advance.

[@hendrix5757]

With the intention that I'd yield a much better sounding clean & crispy clean tone, I more or less implemented this same tactic to my DI signal by using the Pawn Shop Compressor! This particular comp plugin also offers the ability to further alter the timbre by changing the 'component materials', like the transformer & resistor metal types, along with adjusting the voltage bias and output! Man... doing all that prior to hitting a Neural DSP sim resulted in precisely the type of harmonically rich, and compressed clean gtr tone I was after, while still keeping processor consumption to a minimum!

[@Kathayne636]

lol...

[@bloozerd]

I usually track my DI's with compression...Distressor to be exact...All of a sudden my DI's for guitars and bass just come alive and work perfectly for reamping...!!!

[@AlexSaheli]

I absolutely love the recap section :D What I hate about this track is the constant sand in the right ear. I suppose that's from drums.

[@XRaym]

Creative trick with DI for 8 string: duplicate and put a Bass Drive+AMp instead of guitars, and mono mix it :P

[@AdamShepard]

that sounds sick

[@alyctro8158]

Please do more of DI processing tutorials

[@decadepasts]

I use Focusrite Control to route my first two outputs through my third output, which feeds into my reamp box. I use the output preset in Focusrite Control called System Playback. This way I'm able to channel my stems through my reamp box but the problem is that I have to solo the stem Channel in Reaper and mute the monitor in my miced channels, otherwise the entire mix comes out of the reamp box and out of my speakers.

[@sr-vw2pm]

What I found helped me was to use a asio driver . In the daw made input and output to the interface used headphone via the interface. Made my guitar tone 100% better. And now when I mix down to MP3 sounds the same as the daw. Hopefully if your trying to fix your tone this might help . It did for me.

[@bloozerd]

Sooner or later, I'll get a DI box with adjustable resistance...!!!

[@djsusan00]

Can anyone explain the difference other than actually changing the source, Instead of using a pitch shifter like reapith, I find it easier to double click on the take itself and changing the pitch that way. Reapitch has latency, so I've tried staying a way from it. Enlighten me please.

[@MBBGun14]

For me, guitar tone from beginning of the video is great actually.

[@adamstrachn]

Super useful tips Joey. Thanks a ton brother 💯

[@firdeye2681]

that pitch shift is a neat idea. ty so much

[@SpaceJesus]

Surely it cant be just me but I could not tell a difference between A and B. Is there something wrong with the audio in the video?

[@miltonex]

Wow!!! This is puré Gold!!!! Thank tou Joey you Rock!!!!!

[@PoopilussMcDoopiluss]

Ive needed this so bad thank you so much.

[@justingambino2186]

sweet video thanks! I had a good time running the recap portion on repeat at different volumes trying to pinpoint what exactly things were adding to everything. I learned a lot thank you. Edit: I feel like I'm crazy, but just the EQ part almost feels like there was some stereo spread added. I know its probably my ears playing tricks on me, but cool how a little clarity changes things.. I dig the pitched down guitar portion as well it adds some beef! aha

[@endlichjura]

The brighter the sound the wider it feels. 😊

[@xsonicassassinx]

another tip, EQ match with a better guitar. this is very easy when one side was tracked with a nice guitar and the other with a crap guitar.

[@midboys]

Assuming the better guitar played the same riff ?

[@NikolajChristensen]

Great tips. Thanks man.

[@jaimyyelvingtonmusic]

All I noticed was a bass increase from the DI to the finished mixed take, my ears must be off.

[@wormingnightfall6599]

Awesome content!

[@monsirto]

Nice video, pretty much how I used to deal with (non gent) guitar or bass DI issues on the MPC Live. These days I use parallel or foldback compression on an external 166 or 76 and route it back through the mixer. One question. What's an amp? 🤣

[@apothecide.1]

This is exactly what I do to treat my DIs because I have a weak picking hand and my guitar has single coils, then I just use bass DI for the 0s

[@FortyMikeMelodies]

Do you have any videos on solving windows PC EMI / Ground noise through monitors? Constant hissing noise after sustained notes or sticatto cant figure out what the issue is, could be coil whine from GPU or god knows what, all i know is a MAC fixed the problem but i dont have one... maybe a ground conditioner and a shunt ground could fix?

[@VVVY777]

The processing introduced some serious icepick artifacts. Would need nothing less than soothe after the amp to microneedle your eardrums.

[@jomesias]

Which budget DI box do you recommend? I saw the black behringer box I own on the dont reccomend list lmao 😂😂😪

[@jonahcovers1856]

Sweet. Good vid, good tips.

[@hellahornyboy]

Nice reaper theme btw. Can you share pls?)

[@davejohnsonmusic]

I run it through a germanium preamp as well.

[@alessandrotorres3537]

Life saver

[@congoken8232]

Sounds badass when the EQ harmonics come in! What's the song?

[@ChrisEQStudio]

Hi Joey! I see you guys using Reaper in your videos and you seem to have a lot of cool extensions going on! Are these all from the SWS? Did you do some of them on your own? I managed to find the skin you're using, which is one of the best IMO, but it took me.. Some time...... A quick video showing your Reaper setup and how we couls get there would really help me (and other people too I hope) and save me a looot of time just searching for those thing. If I need to search, I will, but if I can save time, well, who doesn't want to save time? Big love to you and your team! I sincerely really love what you guys are doing for the community! 🖤👊🏼

[@SteveH4es]

My di box (countryman type 10) makes my vox ac15 tube amp noisy as hell. Doesn’t do it with my solid state. Any suggestions? It’s not the ground. Or attenuator.

[@Shane-zo4mg]

Honestly couldn't even tell the difference

[@jacquesokes]

Which Reaper theme are you using? thats pretty sweet!

[@joeymusic]

Smooth 6

[@jacquesokes]

@@joeymusic Great thanks man!!

[@Nadav_Zaidman]

am i the only one who doesnt hear any difference with his tests?

[@matheusbora]

I hear little differences, but it's very Sutil, the last one is more audible

[@Savvier]

@@matheusbora Sutil ? :)

[@okaight7248]

Your ears will develop. Also consider new headphones or monitors because while all these moves might seem small, it's a TON of small moves that make a big mix.

[@Alek_Archer]

I can feel that the guitas became more disconnected from the mix after his moves =/

[@matheusbora]

@@Savvier Subtle* sorry, thats not my language heuheuehu

[@fcasoqueiroz]

How to make the mix channel appear on the left side of the tracks, just like yours?

[@nicholasmullins3693]

Reaper allows you to click and drag it.

[@mcl3223]

does anyone know what Reaper skin/icon's he's using here?

[@jujudjentleman7351]

Alright. So if I am using a plugin like by jst or neural dsp , I have do this stuff before or after the sim vst ?

[@jagspelargitarr]

Before=treating the DI before it hits the amp.

[@richmit7154]

whats the song that he is using?

[@SirLongBongFatRipps]

Can we get a video on how to ACTUALLY get a good Di signal? It ALWAYS sounds noisy with interference. Even with shielding and with Pads engaged etc

[@SilverDaysFail]

I don't do anything with DI because I don't even know what that is for one and 2 I don't mix or master music at all by any means ngl 😆 I've been watching these videos for the passed 2 or 3 weeks tho now

[@blazkorazija2310]

What song is that?!

[@eternalinfestation]

My di sounds horrible I’ve spent almost $1000 tryna get it to stop buzzing with all new hardware and nothing works

[@joeymusic]

Call an electrician

[@eternalinfestation]

@@joeymusic damn it

[@eternalinfestation]

@@joeymusic Do you know what type of issue it is?

[@zinhosalaverry8294]

Hey guys, what if I have brand new good interface and good di box and my signal still have noise issues (hum). More noticeable when I palm mute. Btw, im using new mogami cables too. All my signal is new but still have this issue. What would be the problem? The pickups? Any electronic on the guitar? Help pls

[@Alek_Archer]

That's the EMI and RFI. Move as further away from your computer and other sources of electro magnetic field as you can. Move round with your guitar to find the spot where it's less noisy. Check the pickup height and use gain knob wisely.

[@scottnelle]

@@Alek_Archer Great suggestions. You can also try rotating your playing position by 90 degrees. I get a lot of EMI from the power in my house (or the power lines outside, maybe). If I swivel my chair 90 degrees, it's gone.

[@zinhosalaverry8294]

I tried but the problem still there :( I’m thinking. Maybe are the electronics, idk?

[@Alek_Archer]

@@zinhosalaverry8294 This can be anything. Hard to tell without an example.

[@MattAfterlife]

@@Alek_Archer Yup

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

now I`ll have paranoia whether my Di tracks are good enough or not lol

[@JohnDoe-if1ty]

Sounds the same to me

[@hookersterminaltackle]

Wish the guitar was in solo. Drums are distracting

[@DanielKitchka]

the guitar is fine, the drums though... eh...

[@rzutyjenkin398]

Congratulations, you have turned a boring glassy djenty sound into an even more boring glassy annoying sound which is the cancer of modern metal.

[@angryktulhu]

Lol I don’t hear a huge difference ))

[@Gdude899]

if your doing loads of automation as you should you might as well skip step 2

[@scottnelle]

Automating individual transients seems excessive. That's a perfect job for a compressor. Automate after, to vary the impact of the track.

[@Gdude899]

@@scottnelle but I can hear the transients in the example to be slightly squashed and using a compressor anything can usually be a regrettable decision when you come back to your mix 2 years later and can hear the life being sucked out of it even if its very slightly its that fast attack you gotta be wary of

[@SilverDaysFail]

I don't follow a damn thing in any of these videos for the passed 5 - 20 videos. I don't audio engineer music at all tho. Are these videos even for me? 😳😆

[@kangandres]

this video present a good 3 solution, but stupidly present each example in mix drum set..

[@amfk8079]

The original is better.

[@amfk8079]

You added everything I do not like about guitar tone these days. Nasty jangly high end and no body. Lifeless, stuck in place, everything is the same. This is not for me lol.