3000km in an electric Land Rover Defender

In this episode we interview Tom from Vintage Volts, our partners in Sweden, to talk about his recent mammoth trip from our workshop here in Mid Wales to his workshop up in Sweden. That's a distance of over 3000km travelled in 4 days. Along the way they stopped to meet with a number of customers and suppliers so it's fair to say that the route wasn't exactly a straight route home.
They also took the opportunity to test as many charge stations as possible, mainly CCS, along the way, including Ionity, Eviny, Circle K, Pod point, Tesla and even a Porsche charge station.
We think the Land Rover Defender 130 is the perfect electric vehicle for the sub-zero temperatures and deep snow of Sweden in winter. Comfortable on the road and awesome off road.
If you want to follow more of Vintage Volts builds make sure you go to their website below:
vintagevolts.se/
Thanks also to Britpart and BF Goodrich for their support during the build.

[@jeremyfk]

Did a trip from Ireland to Germany about 18 months ago. Honestly one of the most pleasant experiences ever. The Tesla just ate up the kilometres. Did just shy of 3000km . No annoying gear changes, no engine rattles, no smelly petrol pumps. Never had to wait on a charger and this was mid summer peak tourist time. Anyone who says EVs are no good and can't do long journeys either have hidden agendas or simply don't know what they're talking about.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Long journeys in a Tesla I find are so much less stressful than when I used to do them in a petrol car. 😎⚡️👌

[@davidconnolly292]

Same here Ireland to La Rochelle and Bordeaux in Tesla model y. Tesla superchargers on the road and at destination Mostly used carrefour hyper fast chargers which were pricey but convenient. Overall it was effortless.

[@georgedaville4662]

Or maybe they can’t afford a Tesla, which is acknowledged as the best EV because of the charging network, although it is not to everybody’s taste!

[@jensdybrofrederiksen7922]

@@georgedaville4662you don’t have to drive a Tesla to use there charging network, so buy an EV use Tesla chargers and “charge finder” and you are “good to go” 🎉

[@pale4980]

can confirm, have done several 500+km roadtrips on the american west coast with my Kona Ev. most relaxing way to do road trips. Charging isnt perfect (yet), but what always gets me is the absence of any engine and transmission struggling noises when going up steep inclines at freeway speeds. overall a much more relaxed way to travel by car.

[@logitech4873]

Did a journey through Europe this summer. 13,500 kilometers from northern Norway down to Spain and Italy, crossing through 10 other countries on the way. Total charging cost was €905 / $990 total. It was divided among the three of us. It was problem free! Not even a charging queue. The Tesla Model 3 LR is almost cheating for this though :) Going to enjoy this video, been looking forward to it.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That’s a long one. ⚡️👌

[@spudproductions7606]

That’s the winner so far. Good work. 👍👍

[@peterjol]

It doesn't matter what vehicle you convert to electric ..you end up with a much better vehicle...I would love a converted classic.

[@Jagggggg88]

Nah it depends, got a 150 landcruiser and would see no reason to convert this to ev. And an classic car in my garage wich only drives occasionally I wouldn’t convert neater because in 8-12 years it will need a new battery

[@rodden1953]

@@Jagggggg88 Well dont come here then , sod off

[@cre8tvedge]

@@Jagggggg88 I don't think so. As long as you drive it occasionally the battery will not get overworked and will likely last a minimum of twenty years. I imagine your no reason boils down to two things; Zero BEV experience and money.

[@LordElpme]

@@Jagggggg88as long as it's stored around 40% then time will not have much of an effect on the battery.

[@89five3five]

⁠@@Jagggggg88where did you get that 8 to 12 year figure from?

[@jimcabezola3051]

"Voltage Vindication!" There's your title for your next TV show with Petrol Ped! This Defender and its owner will be the first of your many story subjects! Such an awesome video! Aloha!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Aloha 😎👍

[@magnussvendsen4404]

Drove to Tuscany two days after taking delivery of our TMY Performance. That was about 5000km! Tønsberg, Norway - Tuscany, Italy and back! First main electric car for us!

[@giulianomarco]

Välkommen till sverige! 😁👍

[@LarsDahlin]

Lovely. I live abour 200 km north of Lillhärdal. Have had a couple of EV's since 2015. Works like a charm up here. Welcome all!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Very cool!

[@owainbennett663]

Nice to have a review that shows real world test. Unlike all the negative reviews. "Ohhh, the Cobalt mining, the charging waiting and the risk of fires" Great video post.

[@4literv6]

I never understood the cobalt bit? We've mined for cobalt since the 1730s now. And almost every kind of modern electronic device that uses a battery uses cobalt. Sold by the literal billions each year. And most often tossed in landfills once used up. But an ev pack can be worth $2,500-$3,500 in materials. Ice vehicles also can't function without cobalt, lithium, platinum metals and mining. They need batteries and electric motors to. Cobalt is also used in fossil fuel refining and in mettalurgy, plus the aerospace industries. Charging for most of us happens in our driveways while we sleep like our phones tablets etc. So who cares most of the time right? Recent insurance data done and published puts to bed the fire risk b.s. as evs are less than .10% as likely per vehicle to catch fire vs ice. And the #1 open recall across ALL LEGACY ice oems right now world wide? Is for the risk of FIRE even when parked and just in the U.S. over 10,000,000+3-5 year old vehicle's are under recall for the risk of FIRE. 😀 average of an ice vehicle fire here every 4mins or so. 👍🏻

[@owainbennett663]

@@4literv6 I agree, scaremongering is all it realy is. May even be the fear to move forward. Thermal Engines have been around for over 200 years, time to move forward.

[@evornotev7794]

Drove to Stockholm and back from south of England this summer. Well over 4,000km altogether. Tesla Y performed flawlessly and had a huge capacity with 2 e-bikes on the tow hitch bike rack, a large dog and all our luggage for a long trip. Tesla superchargers were flawless and used various other providers as well. Chose hotels with charge points for our overnight stops which helps massively. One b&b had a 3kwh charge point which is slow but still helped significantly as we were there for 12 hours or so. Tesla Y was effortless the whole way and bike rack didn't reduce the efficiency as much as we were expecting.

[@davecolgan442]

My wife and I did 4,100 miles through the southwest from Reno, NV to Abilene, TX and back over about 10 days. No problems with charging or the car.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

I bet that was a nice trek. 😎👌

[@spudproductions7606]

👍👍👍👍

[@handsofdoubt31]

Love this! I've done Hampshire to the far end of Belgium and back...full trip was over 800 miles. It cost £115 in total and all chargers worked first time every time. The only time I had to wait to plug in was the very last leg in the UK at Cobham services Ionity on the M25. Only had to wait about 10 minutes. They've just have added another 12 chargers there recently so waiting probably won't be an issue anymore. I follow the mantra: Charge where you stop, don't stop to charge. That way as you say you're never waiting to charge. It's so much more convenient that refuelling petrol/diesel which actually adds more time to your journey. Near then end of my trip at a service station near Ghent I noticed these very bored looking people standing next to their cars having to hold onto a hose. They didn't look happy. I was in the warm having coffee and Danish. When I was done my car had got up to 96% which was way more than I needed. I'll not be going to back to ICE.

[@spudproductions7606]

Good advice. 👍👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Charge when you stop, don’t stop to charge. I like that saying. 😉👍

[@paultodd9301]

Awesome vehicle & an interesting video.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@54mgtf22]

Hey Richard. Love your work 👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Awesome, thank you!

[@mrmawson2438]

Cheers guys

[@ekhaat]

Longest journey: Kruså, Denmark, over Sweden to Åndalsnes, Norway, 1340 km each way, in summer. Hyundai Kona 2019, 39.2 kWh battery Done it twice, love it. Cheers

[@spudproductions7606]

Well done on that one. 👍👍

[@gardenrailroadingjointhefu3379]

So Cool! We will be getting a Rivian soon and are so excited! Love your rebuilds!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Have fun!

[@elstner]

Living in Austria my wife and me are driving electric cars since 10 years. With the first one (little VW e-Up! 18kWh, which we still own/110.000 km) we made trips around 1.000 km in Austria. With the next one (VW e-Golf 36 kWh, which I gave to my brother) we made holiday trips to the Netherlands/3.000 km. Now we are driving a Tesla Model 3 LR AWD since early 2019 and with the Supercharger network there is no limit. In the last years we regularly made trips to Sweden (where our daughter lives) and Norway (where our son lives) and some holiday journey combined with the family visits. So we were doing around 8.000 km each trip. Since driving the Tesla we never think about charge planing. And regularly the car is faster then we are with drinking coffee, visiting the bathrooms, eating, etc. Next July we will drive to Wales to join the Croeso Orienteering event, and of course I plan to visit your workshop, Richard! Hope I can meet you 😊

[@ElectricClassicCars]

I look forward to seeing you. 😉👍

[@spudproductions7606]

Love Austria. Please call in and say hello when you visit Wales. 😀👍👍

[@elstner]

I will for sure! 👍🏼😁

[@fixedgrin2531]

In my 2018 Tesla Model 3 I did two long journeys around the united states. The first was ~16.5k Miles over 3 months and the second was ~12k Miles over 9 weeks. Worst case, there is always an RV park you can find to charge at and camp.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Wow. I think that’s the longest so far. 😮😎👍

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

You just widened the market for RV parks. Hahaha 😊

[@BeetleBeetleY]

Did a trip in the summer from Ottawa to Niagara Falls, around Niagara region and back to Ottawa - about 1200 km. Cost about $100 to charge the Model 3 for that trip. Was also fully loaded: 5 adults and luggage. I want to do so much more!

[@spudproductions7606]

Good work 👍👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That sounds a nice trip. 👍

[@MrAdopado]

The reduced range hit than expected compared to a Tesla is partly because the extended Tesla range is achieved by high efficiency aero and other optimisations that work best in the moderate conditions where we mostly drive. The Defender never that super-efficiency in the first place so there's less to lose when the going gets tougher. It's similar in principle to an ICE car where the weather hit is certainly there but usually somewhat less than in a highly optimised EV.

[@lamborghiniregistry]

This past August some friends of mine drove 2 Teslas from Montreal, Canada to Jasper and Banff and back again. Total distance was around 8,000 km with other detours included. We met them in Banff and were amazed at their journey. Made me consider getting one for sure

[@spudproductions7606]

8000km and still in the same country !!!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍😬

[@lamborghiniregistry]

That's 4,000 km in each direction. Canada is really big@@spudproductions7606

[@EngineersFear]

We did a similar trip from Kassel/Germany to Östersund in Sweden (200km north of Lillhärdal). Once in summer with a converted VW Touran in 2021. The charging infrastructure was awful back then, the AC charger broken and we were only left with CHAdeMO - this meant one tow from a broken charger to a working one. The other time we hired a Kia Soul in winter 2022. The charging infrastructure had improved notably within just 1.5 years! In the cold winter it was so good to have an electric car that you can preheat or leave running to keep the dog warm. EVs are much better in winter than ICE ones. Back then I didn't know of Tom - hope I can visit on this years trip :)

[@locknut5382]

Thanks for that excellent report, Richard. You guys have done a First Class job with that Land Rover. Seeing that you asked, my longest journey is quite modest. From Langton House at Langton Matravers on the Isle of Purbeck to Lincoln, with two people and holiday luggage, including my mobility buggy, in a standard Renault Zoe ZE50, last September, without recharging. I used standard routes including motorways and A roads. The journey was about 265 miles, and remaining range was estimated as 46 miles. Renault claim that the car has a range of around 245 miles, but on longer journeys I've always bettered that. Around town and on journeys up to 20 miles in Winter, at just below 0°C we've never seen less than 4.2 miles per kWh; still about 220 miles. It's much better if the battery is preheated, reaching 5.3 mpkWh with no difficulty. Bear in mind that the Zoe is built on a fossil fuelled car body, so it's not really optimised. There are more efficient cars out there.

[@user-sd3ik9rt6d]

It sounds lovely.

[@dfishpool7052]

Hi Richard, thanks for the video - absolutely fascinating!

[@kenbone4535]

Awesome, always wanted to drive to the Artic Circle

[@ElectricClassicCars]

You and me both!

[@user-yg7rk6cz2f]

Our longest trip was two weeks with four children: We are doing holidays in our electric camper and prefer taking mountain pass not fast highways. This summer my wife and me went from Switzerland via Albula Pass up to the Stelvio Pass which is 2757meters (9045ft) above sea level and then down to Meran in Italy. There we've been to the most beautiful amazing mediteran garden Trauttmannstorf. Usually we drive parts of the GRAND TOUR OF SWITZERLAND which is the touristic Route 66 of Switzerland. If possible we stay on farms or at wine-growers to have authentic experiences, if not we do wildcamping or stay on a campsite. We've made several trips more than 1000km without troubles. We love staying in our eVanster (including induction cooking) to go enjoying the nature! This summer we did a two week holiday tour with our 4 children in the Grisons, Valais and other swiss cantons.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That sounds amazing. I love driving through the Alps. ❤️👍

[@spudproductions7606]

Sounds wonderful 👍😀

[@user-yg7rk6cz2f]

​@@ElectricClassicCarsProposal: You should come to Brunnen CH and organise or initiate an Electric Classic Car Meeting: Between Mountains and Lakes, where many Pass‘ are not far. This would be a great platform to experience EV-converted cars, discuss about this topic and to offer EV-conversions too. This year Brunnen (my village) at the wonderful lake lucerne already hosted a UK Supercar Meeting, a Tuning Car Meeting and Classic Car Meetings at the beautiful „Square of the Swiss Abroad“ (between harbour and lake). Maybe you could collaborate with revive.swiss or manufaktur marton for organising this first Electric Classic Cars Meeting in the Alps. By the way in Switzerland already in 1902 electric cars we’re manufactured. Some of these Tribelhorn-vehicles are still homologated and in service… SC:UK Europe Tour 2023 - SC:UK: www.supercarowner.co.uk/past-events/scuk-europe-tour-2023-again/#fancybox-effects-a-279 4Forestcitylake | Facebook: facebook.com/4forestcitylake/photos Square of the Swiss Abroad in Brunnen (admin.ch): www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/fdfa/living-abroad/schweizerinnen-und-schweizer-im-ausland/fifth-switzerland/auslandschweizerplatz-brunnen.html

[@Nick_Smith1970]

I towed my caravan to St Ives in Cornwall, from Stoke on Trent last August, with my BMW i4 edrive 40. Not a massive trip, but 320 ish miles. Made more interesting by the fact that pulling the caravan takes the max range from 300 miles down to around 90. But even with the shorter range, it was still an enjoyable journey, even having to park the caravan and unhitch, just to get the car to the chargers at each of the 3 stops. Maximum wait time for one of the chargers was 30 mins, as there were only 2 at a Shell Garage, that was on our route. So one thing to take away from it was that motorway services need at least a dozen 350kW chargers, with space to pull in with a caravan and not have to unhitch. The lack of forward planning for chargers in the UK is staggering. Hardly anyone has given any thought to them, or future-proofed them at all. For example, Gloucester Services on the M5. One of the UKs newest and stylish services, only has 2x 50kW chargers. What good are they when you need 80kWh in 30 minutes? Why didn't they all put in at least a dozen 200kw chargers 5 years ago? EV's aren't the problem, the narrow-minded, short-sighted charging companies are. On a lighter note, if I only took the car itself to Cornwall, I would only need one short stop to charge, which is no different than when I had a diesel.

[@spudproductions7606]

We had the same experience when towing of having to unhitch. Let’s hope that’s something that improves. 👍👍

[@hansahlborg]

You sure know your builds! ❤

[@spudproductions7606]

Thanks 👍👍

[@TheKoloc]

Wow!! Great journey in an awsome car....

[@markwellington1254]

Excellent!

[@arbitrary76]

2000 mile holiday in the UK in a rented Model 3 LR. No charging issues with Superchargers on motorways and Fuuse charger at destination.

[@spudproductions7606]

👍👍👍

[@markottaway6899]

The only journey that ever gave me range anxiety was driving to Bruges Via Dover to Dunkirk Ferry, only nervous because it was my first drive into another country. A lovely drive in my Renault Zoe with 40Kwh battery, 140km on mostly motorways and still had 20% battery left on arrival. The high power chargers are in the underground car park under Bruges train station, but very little mobile reception, so you have to plugin and walk towards the exit until you can start the charger. 8-)

[@syncrosimon]

My mum did that drive in a Series 1 in 1957, so well done you for doing it 67 years later. Big up modern technology 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheRothenborg]

I drove to Brindisi from Copenhagen,and back, in a Tesla Model 3 SR. No problems at all. 4600 km

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That’s a long way

[@mrmawson2438]

Sounds great

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Epic Journey. Seems this truck is doing everything it needs to, and that's a lot.

[@spudproductions7606]

Well said. 👍👍

[@robertm1459]

I went to see the Bridgestone World Solar Challenge (solar car race Darwin to Adelaide) in October where I travelled from Sunshine Coast, QLD, Australia to Adelaide, South Australia which was roughly 4,385Km in my MG4 51(LFP). Public charging from expensive Tesla chargers etc to slower freebies........cost worked out to about $5/100Km👍 Was camping & sleeping in the car👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

I’d love to go and see that race. 😎👍

[@spudproductions7606]

Nice one. Sounds awesome. 👍👍

[@janwergeland5586]

First drive with my Skoda Enyaq 80x, was with my son from the car dealer and home, 560 km. Charged after 4 hours while we ate dinner. Recently Oslo - Stockholm t/r 6 hours and 15 min driving time each way + 2x30 min charging and eating/coffee. I would like to have a (1990-2015) LR90/110 BEV sometime in the future.

[@spudproductions7606]

Nice one 👍👍

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

Brilliant, congrats

[@spudproductions7606]

Thanks 👍👍

[@kru3g3r]

It's 2023 and I'm watching a Video of two blokes talking about a Defender EV and I absolutely love it.

[@davereeder61164]

We went from Cork in Ireland to Cornwall and back in a Renault Zoe with only type 2 charging last year. A real adventure! And education we survived! but now I have a Tesla!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

I’m not sure I’d like to try too many long journeys in an EV with no rapid DC charging. Well done for taking on the challenge though. 😎👍

[@davereeder61164]

@ElectricClassicCars It was an adventure the car was a 40kw model with a roof rack on top my wife and two kids. Long stops lots of chargers we could not use because they were either broken, wrong type or required apps that would not load onto an Irish mobile plus the enevitable charger blocked by selfish drivers. We did get free top ups in Tescos though. 40kw was fastest charge slowest some TESCOs 7kw but it was free!

[@phillee2583]

We've done Northern Germany to Britanny two summers in a row now, a trip of about 3500km, in an ID.3. Charging was never a problem. In two years we had to wait 20 minutes once for a charger but that was on a Saturday when the whole of France was on the move. Fast charging at Lidl in France for 36 cents/kWh is very enjoyable. Driving electric is just so relaxing in so many ways.

[@spudproductions7606]

Impressive 👍👍

[@deltajohnny]

What a great build! 👏👏👏👏

[@Gjarllarhorn1]

I hope we can see a video about the data that was logged and how the car did

[@stalmark]

Summer holiday from Denmark to North Cape and down along the cost of Norway, towing a Mink Camper with a Tesla Model Y. 7500 km on 4 weeks. Absolutely no issue experienced. Tesla Super Charger infrastructure works flawlessly.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Thanks for sharing!

[@CyberDriveCentral]

Another great video! What an epic journey! Such a great test in different temperatures too! A great vidication of all your hard work bringing electric cars to people's favourite classics! So basically they are lots more efficient and a pleasire to drive! I can't wait until I get my next car. It will be electric!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@CyberDriveCentral]

@@ElectricClassicCars love that Landrover! What a machine! 😍💯

[@chargeheadsuk]

Great to see an update on this amazing EVC. Phenomenal cold weather performance. Was there battery heating at all? 🤔

[@richardhughes1910]

The longest trip was from Seattle WA to South Bend IN, which was 2500 miles. Gas powered cars only need just over 2000 miles for the same trip , but because the charging network vanishes in Northern central US, you have to dip South to make it. Like the Land Rover no significant problems, but you will find Electrify America stations where three out of four chargers are offline and the fourth is only putting out 30KW, so that did have waiting to charge for some time. Many stops are as noted, just time for both car occupants and the dog to take a pee break and you are on your way. The biggest hurdle is getting to a mindset of only charging enough to get to the next stop and not trying to "fill up" every time. Once you get the hang of the 20% to 80% rhythm, charging stops are as long as it takes for a bladder or food break. Second longest was from Seattle WA to College Station TX, on to New Orleans and back to Seattle. Fine apart from the mandatory 3 off line on ly 1 working at 30KW in Hermiston OR. Once my Volvo can recharge at Tesla supercahrges then this all becoems moot!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Sounds like charging at Tesla stations is the way forward in the US, just like has happened in Europe. 👍

[@rogerstarkey5390]

That's another 5-7 myths crushed!

[@spudproductions7606]

It’s as if all the myths were made up ????? 😂

[@robinpeters6647]

My wife and i did a EV Tesla Y trip down to San Martino di Castrozza, Dolomites - through the Alps🏔️ - Super chargers did give us some concern (enough of them), but navigated it. Enjoyed lots of Italian Coffee

[@spudproductions7606]

Nice trip 👍👍

[@Timbofr3]

We regularly travel from Basel to Birmingham and have also holidayed in Brittany and south Germany which represent round trips of over 2000 km. To date we have never been left without charging options..

[@spudproductions7606]

Cool 👍👍

[@zodiacfml]

I remember this vehicle having multiple battery packs. Early today, a popular Tesla influencer posted that current battery/range of Teslas is sufficient but I think otherwise. While people may not use need all the available range, a larger pack allows for faster range increase (max and charging curve) during DC charging and total less cycling on each cell compared to a smaller pack. Current Teslas are weak vs frequent Supercharging.

[@MarkSpohr]

I have a Tesla Model S LR. 405 miles range (640 km). I find this is more range than I need even on long distance trips. I've done California to Florida (and back... 6500 miles). Stop every few hours to charge, bio-break, etc. for about 30 minutes or less. Best way to travel. My older Tesla Model S 85D 2015 has 130,000 miles with only about 5% battery degradation.

[@georgepelton5645]

I have done several multi-day EV trips. The longest probably was Indianapolis, IN to Key West, FL, with a stop in Jacksonville FL. It was about 1400 miles each way, for a total of 2800 mi (4500 km). That trip was in my 2018 Model 3 RWD.

[@cartoon-network814]

amazing - this is the way to go. Retrofit old ICE engines

[@georgedaville4662]

Great advertising for your business Richard, not that you need it. This video just shows how durable EV’s that are properly designed and specced for purpose can be. That was some shakedown journey for sure. Great video and storyline, you are now on the European Stage Richard. 😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Thanks 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️

[@adeelnawaz3339]

I've done up to 2400km in my Kona EV, but the most amazing journey was from Prague to Berlin. I left Prague with 90% battery, and reached home after a 350km drive, with 40% battery left. How on earth is that possible? I took the expressway, so my top speed was limited to 100km/h. Had I taken the motorway, I'd have to charge at least twice. That's how much difference the air resistance makes.

[@jasonmanness7941]

so far the longest trip i've done in my 2020 ioniq 38.8kwh is 275 miles one way for a weekend trip (and back home, so 550 miles/890km round trip in 2 days). but I have also made that same trip several times since friends and family live about that far from me.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Very nice!

[@Brinslade]

1836 miles when I came to the UK for a 2 week holiday. Drove a Polestar 2 from Heathrow to Norfolk, then to Carlisle, Then Ayrshire in Scotland, Edinburgh, Newcastle, then through that terrible storm in October to reading. After we went back to Norfolk for the day and returned to Reading the same day. Before dropping the car off back at Heathrow. Never had a problem finding a charger. Just a few of them were not working, but found others nearby. Used the Tesla chargers when available as they were the cheapest. But did find free chargers in Scotland. Interestingly, my youngest son who suffers travel sickness has never suffered with it in an electric vehicle. 🙂

[@trevorberridge6079]

Travel sickness can be caused by the jerkiness of an ICE car going through the gears however smooth it may be. Most EVs are notably smoother than most equivalent ICEs.

[@spudproductions7606]

Nice one 👍👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Interesting about the travel sickness. 👍

[@trevorberridge6079]

I got my 24kwh Nissan Leaf in December 2016. In November 2017 I realised a long held ambition of driving to Edinburgh and back. I'd never done it in my three previous petrol cars because the cost of fuel alone was restrictive. The journey was from Lewisham borough in South London to Leith just North of Edinburgh. To this day I'm gutted that someone else spotted that I'd gone to Leith in a Leaf. You can skip to a summary in the last paragraph, but the juicy details are in the following three. Anyway, at the time if you didn't have a Tesla there was only one real charging network in England to get you across the country (Electric Highway) and one in Scotland (Chargeplace Scotland). At the time both were free to use so the cost was not an issue. In fact the amount I saved compared to petrol costs was more than enough to pay for my hotel and all snacks and lunches. I left home about 5:45am on a Tuesday, made eight planned stops on the way and arrived at my hotel at 11:15pm. Total journey 17.5 hours including 6 hours of charging (which also allowed for plenty of much needed rest time). My rule was a maximum of one 45 minute charge session at any stop to get the most charge from a single sitting at each stage. On the way back the next morning I'd learned enough to know that I didn't need as much charge at each stop and was able to set off again in as little as 20 minutes. In fact, at many stops I would visit the toilet and get a drink and a chocolate bar and go back to the car to find I'd already put in more charge than I needed for the next stage. This cut 3 hours off of my charging time and the journey home was now down to 14.5 hours. If I did that journey on a regular basis and in the Summer instead of very late Autumn I reckon I could have gotten it down to 13.5 hours or less. I did this journey purely to kill off FUD I'd heard about EVs. I learned a lot about my car and the truth about EVs. The networks available now totally dwarf what was available then and every time I wander North it is easier and easier to find chargers. If there's ever an issue with one charge point I can always find another. I carried a three-pin extension lead and my Leaf came with a granny cable as well as the 7kw cable. This was for emergencies in case there were only domestic sockets available for me to top up the car at any point. It was never needed. You must remember that this was by today's standards an inefficient, small battery, old tech EV. As it goes I was getting average 90 miles per charge driving around London, but I was getting 106 miles per charge across the whole 890 miles of total driving in those two days. So that killed off the myth that EVs lose a lot of range and efficiency driving at motorway speeds. I also never managed to overheat the battery despite 8 consecutive rapid charges on the way up and 8 consecutive rapid charges on the way back. In fact, the hotter the Leaf got the slower the heat rose. There were even occasions when the car got cooler during charging as there was a nice Scottish breeze blowing under the car. This is a car without active battery temperature management. So there went another myth. And my car has continued to bust myths that even people who should know better continue to perpetuate. After 90,000 miles and seven years my battery is at 79% State Of Health and showing no signs of breaking the warranty by the time it reaches eight years in December 2024. It may exceed 100,000 miles but it's on course to still have over 70% of battery capacity. Another myth bites the dust. And again, this is a car that is nowhere near the capabilities and efficiencies of modern EVs and has no active cooling and heating and certainly no pre-heating. So that's my truncated (believe it or not) tale of the longest journey I ever did in my humble Nissan Leaf 24kwh. 437 miles to Leith, 16 miles pottering around Edinburgh the next morning and then 437 miles back to London. No trouble finding chargers, no waiting hours at a time to top up, no breakdown, no over-heating, no massive drop in efficiency, no cost. And my EV was so relaxing that I was able to survive the hours of driving with less wear and tear than previous ICE car drives of half the distance.

[@spudproductions7606]

Good work. An EV long distance pioneer 👍👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

What a great story, thanks for sharing. Leith in a Leaf. 🤣😆😉

[@svenwesterlund3405]

Longest trip was about 1900 kms when I assisted a relative moving house from Denmark to Sweden. Was towing a trailer behind our Tesla 3 AWD LR and had no issues at all. All charging was done on Tesla Superchargers, no charging was available on the ferries between Sweden and Denmark. Consumed 429 kWhs or 226 Wh/km for the whole journey. Cost was about £100 or 115 Euros.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Long distance and towing a trailer. 👍👍👍

[@spudproductions7606]

Outstanding 👍👍👍

[@joshuared1000]

Best show yet!! Hopefully, more long form shows!! Keep up the fantastic work!!

[@spudproductions7606]

Thanks 👍👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

More to come!

[@sergigorchs7329]

I did a thousand miles by bike., also in sweden, but it was iin summer 😂

[@TheMighty_T]

750km (Brittany to Brussels) in a first gen Nissan env200(24kwh). It was part of a two week summer holiday, but for such a short range vehicle it worked quite well.

[@cre8tvedge]

I've done a few road trips in my Model Y. The latest was a 2080Km trip up from near LA Calif to southern Utah near four corners and back. Much of it was remote desert driving with little to no Rapid charging but the plus was lots of free charging at level 2. Total cost about $25.00 US dollars. But my epic was a trip of 4960Km that went north along the Pacific Ocean to San Francisco and then east up to Lake Tahoe and across HWY 50 (Americas loneliest Rd) through NV and UT into Colorado then south to Durango CO. Next was down through NM and across AZ and back into Calif and home. I spent $150.00 for all charging that I had to pay for. It was incredible traveling along the ocean on HWY 1 rated the best scenic in the US by some then deserts and mountains. I did one stretch of over 500 miles with no Tesla fast chargers. I had no problems except getting rained out on a level two charger and then having to wait for a Tesla SC in Moab UT.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That’s got to be the furthest for the cheapest. I wonder if anyone can beat that? 😉👍

[@cre8tvedge]

@@ElectricClassicCars I have a friend in the Electric Vehicle Association (US formed in 1967) who owns a 2016 Model S and brags that since he bought it in I think 2019 used has only spent $20 for charging. That $20.00 he says was that his wife paid the valet fee to have them plug it in to a charger at a hotel casino combination. His secret is that the car came with the free Super charging for life.Yes they have done road trips but I can't speak to those.

[@welkerracingenterprises279]

Excellent video. Building my own conversion in US, this was a great real world travel video/experience. Also great information being shared.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Glad it was helpful!

[@spudproductions7606]

Welcome 👍👍👍

[@terryfleming7084]

That was one fantastic looking trip! I wish we had the infrastructure here in the states.

[@jimbready3553]

Two years ago I drove my Kia Niro EV from Oregon to New Jersey, then back again. My route was not the most direct, partly because I stopped to see friends along the way, and partly because I had to avoid the EV charging desert known as Wyoming. Total distance driven was 7100 miles over 30 days. 74 charging stops. Most interesting location to find a charger: the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Worst charging stop: Benson, Arizona; when I arrived the entire station had just been taken down for annual maintenance, and I didn't have enough range to go anywhere else. 7 hours in a Walmart parking lot.... Best scenery: I70 from Green River, Utah to Denver, Colorado, via Loveland Pass. Wow, just wow. Worst scenery: every single Walmart parking lot, especially and memorably, Little Rock, Arkansas. Best pavement: Pennsylvania Turnpike. Worst pavement: "textured pavement" (crosshatched rain grooves) in Texas; the noise in the car was deafening. Highlights: crossing the great salt desert in Utah, seeing whole farms in Illinois manicured as perfectly as a Beverly Hills lawn, taking the better part of two days to cross Texas (yes Virginia, it really is that big), having three Electrify America charging stations in a row work perfectly, in Nevada. I can't wait to find an excuse to do it again.

[@spudproductions7606]

Good one 👍👍

[@mrmawson2438]

That was a good drive 👍

[@rlarno]

Longest journey done was with a Tesla Model 3 AWD, from Antwerp, Belgium to Primosten, Croatia. Back in August 2019. Would really love to have our 2013 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV converted to a full EV. Keep the electric motors, but take out the petrol engine and replace the battery and BMS.

[@stianthomassen6693]

Could you include in the description weight,efficiency uses of kwh pr. Km/mile. I like the X kwh pr 100km but know others count it differently. And it was a 170kwh battery right, with 22kw AC charger and a 150kw dc charger?

[@ElectricClassicCars]

I thought we said that in the episode? 170kWh battery, 400km range in winter.

[@stianthomassen6693]

@@ElectricClassicCars it’s more of feedback. When I watch your videos I sometimes go to the description to look for stats. That doesn’t mean I stop watching, it’s just when the stats are said I usually have to play back just to hear if I heard right. Really brilliant build. Beautiful.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

Did a 1800 mile trip last November (2900km) in my Polestar from my home in Maidenhead to Land's End, then to John O' Groats, then back home. Stopped for a night in a hotel in Inverness and took just a few hours over 2 days. The reason I did it was I had a few days off with nothing planned. It worked out about £200 cheaper than it would have cost in petrol in my old car.

[@jasonlauder3402]

all these videos about electric landrovers make me think about converting my g wagen but being in little old new zealand ev parts are not so easy to come by

[@ElectricClassicCars]

An electric converted G Wagon would be very cool. 😎⚡️👌

[@jasonlauder3402]

@@ElectricClassicCars I do wonder how easily the Landrover battery boxes would fit in a gwagen engine bay

[@MikesTropicalTech]

In fall of 2021 I did a loop starting in Nashville, around the coastline of America and across Canada to Toronto and then south to Nashville again. Nearly 3 months on the road & 14,500 miles. Tesla Model Y Long Range, epic drive, she never let me down.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Wow. I think that’s the longest so far. What an epic road trip. I’d love to do that myself. 😎⚡️👍

[@MikesTropicalTech]

@@ElectricClassicCars Here's the video I made about the charging convenience and cost compared to a gas car on the same trip. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-WmXmLrMiYlcU

[@bugjuicer]

So awesome! Can't wait to get started on my EV projects! Does this have any assistants (TC, ABS etc)?

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Yes. TC and ABS. 👍

[@fredwilson4776]

We have done Vancouver to Denver (round trip) 3 times in a Tesla Model Y. Fast, easy and FSD rocks! The first time was in 2020 and even then FSD/Autopilot was great at flowing through interstate traffic. Just holding your place in the lane free up so much of your focus for other things. We sleep for 5 hrs. at a supercharger (in camp mode) and can do the 1400 mile trip in 22hrs. One trip we had a lot of snow and there is always a lot of wind across Wyoming, but there was always a super charger there when we needed it. Low stress, non-marathon driving really pays off for your state of mind. We prefer driving to flying now unless it is international. Love your channel...the ultimate in upcycling! Cheers

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That sounds like a great trip. 👍

[@mikejf4377]

Isn’t this the one that you put two Tesla cars worth of batteries in it? Looks great.

[@juanmacias5922]

3K and in the cold!

[@ianmilne655]

Great that the cold has had next to no see degradation in range on this, maybe as mentioned alot of the battery pack is 'inside' the vehicle, it's for this exact reason when i do my conversion the battery packs will be inside ( 2x in the rear of the van and one pack under the bonnet) thats an impressive battery pack 170kw, hows the pack made up? Is it Tesla S packs?

[@ElectricClassicCars]

They are LG Chem modules. 👍

Good job! @Tom Zídek, have you got any plans to come to CZ with your land rover or to meet any czech EV youtubers (electrodad, f-drive)?

[@construction300O]

Super car. 👌🇬🇧🇺🇦

[@jost4786]

Vehicle price?

[@ricvergeer]

Last winter I drove my Tesla Model Y RWD from Holland to the Artic circle and back. With al lot of snow and ice. About 7000km total half of it on fully snowcovered roads👌

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Thanks for sharing

[@jamescarroll-gp8hl]

Richard you really do pump up your ev business as if theres nothing better than an ev ,i have an ev its ok for short local journeys but nothing will beat my old 300d merc for the long road trip fill it up in minutes and no range anxioty.

[@infernoking7504]

The only land rover I want is a defender with a diesel 5 speed manual with solid axles with coil springs all around. If I did a ev conversion would be something thats already very aerodynamic because range is gonna be a issue.

[@spencerbardell2180]

In the frozen colony of Canada I drive about 3,000kms a month as everything and everyone I visit are 200kms apart.. But I did a 4,000km road trip in my 2015 TESLAAAAA Model S 85D around the East Cost of Canada , Kingston Ontario to Cape Breton.. Free super charging and free charging at hotels the entire 4,000kms cost me $40 Canadian dollars..

[@spudproductions7606]

Bargain. 👍👍

[@motorv8N]

Fantastic episode- thanks for posting. Our story is a bit different. We’ve got probably the shortest range EV out there - our 2021 MiniCooper SE will occasionally show 200km on the clock fully charged in summer. At this time of year 170km indicated is about the norm. And in the dead of a central Ontario winter - I’ve seen as low as 140. So…. Knowing that we usually reserve this car for city duty only. However it’s just so much fun to drive that we’ve set out to the lake district north of Toronto many times. Our usual journey is about a 600km round trip. Requires 2 twenty minute stops each way, if we don’t want to gamble rolling in on 5-10km to a charger that may not be working. This admittedly isn’t nothing on a 4ish hour drive, but honestly we see it as the adventure it is. And sure, finding a working non-Tesla charger in the wasteland between urban centres keeps things interesting, but if anyone can demonstrate living with an EV is doable, I think we’re the poster kids. I can’t imagine the luxury of 4-500km non stop travel. Maybe someday, when our larger Dino juice burning crossover needs replacing… Meanwhile I scheme about converting my 1949 Jeep CJ3….😎

[@ElectricClassicCars]

An electric converted Jeep would be so cool. 😎⚡️👌

[@michaelenglund]

Been fishing in Lillhärdal in the summertime 😊🎣 Tesla chargers are cheapest, even for non Tesla cars. Ionity is stupidly expensive without the deal when buying a new car. I went to Kopemhagen from Stockholm in october. No prob.

[@IDann1]

Longest trip this summer was over 450miles…in my 2013 Zoé 22kw 😮ac22kw charging only. I could’ve gone quicker if I used 43 kW.. but just took my time in enjoyed myself. This was my first long trip I’ve done in my first EV without any issue.

[@spudproductions7606]

Well done 👍👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

My son really wants a Renault Zoe. 😎⚡️👌

[@IDann1]

@@ElectricClassicCars I've on holiday for Two weeks, how much vampire drain do you think I'll have?..it was -4 the other day..

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

How long does it take to charge ? 2 seconds. Hahaha, Hahaha, so true. Time to plug in or unplug. Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day. Trickle charge top up daily, cheap overnight, or rooftop PV during the day.

[@ianrobertwhinnett158]

Hei I live in Norway and have a 2012 Evoque 2wd is it possible to covert it to EV with 4wd? Ian Old Molesey boy Surrey living in Svelvik Norway

[@ianrobertwhinnett158]

Convert

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Sorry but that’s a little too modern for us.

[@bellshooter]

Tamworth to Carminish (Outer Hebrides) 595 miles in a Leaf 30kWh .....

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Blimey, that’s a long way in an old Leaf. 👍

[@spudproductions7606]

Nice work 👍👍

[@trevorberridge6079]

Jonathan Porterfield did a co-driver aided journey from Land's End to John O'Groats in a 30kwh Nissan Leaf. Chris and Julie Ramsay completed the Mongol Rally in a 30kwh Nissan Leaf. That's 10,000 miles.

[@tompava3923]

How much would one of these vehicles cost me as equipped? I’m in the US.

[@CSAFMedia]

Yes Richards, what was the final cost of this build?

[@cre8tvedge]

I think it's in the class of "if you have to ask you can't afford it". I'm sure it's a lot of money. I mean a lot!

[@tompava3923]

@@cre8tvedge That was my first thought as well.

[@genieb]

I do have to disagree with the Landrover remark, my Range Rovers did well doing long trips (including my 2010 on a UK to NL, to Germany, to France back to the UK). They just need to be maintained well. I still would have loved to convert my 2010 to an EV, just couldn't afford it :(.

[@tn8584]

Hey guys, greetings from New Zealand. if you drove this truck through the middle of the desert, could you theoretically have a generator in the back that will charge the truck while you drive? Could something like that be done in the interest of driving around the undeveloped world in an electric vehicle?

[@ElectricClassicCars]

There’s a couple of people who’ve already travelled across the Sahara in EVs on youtube. 👍

[@outbackev-hunter6035]

Just followed the World Solar Challenge Darwin to Adelaide Australia, in My 9yo Tesla Model S, 3000kms in 4 days with mostly AC charging...videos on my Channel FYI

[@MrFoxRobert]

👋👍

[@dannelson6980]

Holiday? I don't think we have that word in America. A few hundred miles between cities is the most I have driven. I am always amused when people see me unplugging at a charger in a conversion and finally realize it is electric. I'm sure what they thought the big cable was going to in the car, a jump start?.

[@Coordinator61]

And how much is this Land Rover btw?

[@mrmawson2438]

Hello guys