304. The Murder of Julius Caesar

[@thanktheuniverse9438]

I started reading Rubicon and couldn't put it down. Brilliant book.

[@shawnparadise6504]

This is violence!

[@johncarroll772]

Kato is that the character that Bruce played

[@BlandBrowser]

Caesar granting citizenship to prominent Gauls is the kind of political wisdom lacking in Britain when she failed to allot the thirteen colonies seats in parliament.

[@michaelbedford8017]

I think the Roman people were more worried by the fact that year 48 was followed by year 47, then year 46!? Alarming to everyone I would have thought. No wonder the Julian calender fell our of favour. 🤔

[@CL-we8tn]

Truly great episode, thank you. I would like to just put it out there that you guys are well educated on the death of Caesar. A five year old could have followed that story and been entertained by it. That's what I like about historians and amateur historians who do things like you and Dan Carlin do them. Academia is sometimes to quick to parrot back their iedetic memory when talking history.

[@_BirdOfGoodOmen]

Look at how they massacred my boy 😢

[@michaelandrewsalomonenewje4107]

Have you gentlemen read Michael Parente’s book The Assasination of Julius Caesar? Thoughts?

[@1789balzac]

Great book. Made me rethink Caesar...

[@donaldcatton4028]

One arm dangling is an artistic motif of the pieta militare from that era..

[@clazy8]

Kingly boots. Isn't that a song by Sonic Youth?

[@1789balzac]

If Caesar can get topped, anyone can. This guy was a clearly a political genius. He understood Rome, the society he grew up in. I think Mark Anthony was in on it...

[@weemama]

Magnanimous? Did you check that with any of the million Gauls he killed?

[@johncarroll772]

Absolute shocked that such an eloquent man like Holland using the word sha""ger.

[@Terinije]

My attitude is that the murder of Caesar was absolutely justified, but that the knock against it was that the aftermath was badly bungled and the blowback from it ended up being worse.

[@1789balzac]

I half agree with this. If I had been a pleb I would have gone with him. I think conspirators were right when you look at what came later i.e. Caligula, Nero, and Commodus.

[@CrystalSharpe-ub3uy]

Rubicon is one of the best books about the fall of the Republic I've ever read. But Trump is in no way comparable to Caesar. Caesar thought about others and had more than one brain cell. No comparison.

[@ludviglidstrom6924]

Caesar seems to me like a relatively progressive character, threatening the privileges of the oligarchy.

[@antoinemozart243]

Caesar never cared about the privileges of the oligarchy. He behaved far worse than them, trying to plot the assassination of the consuls in 63, cheating in elections, buying votes.

[@abdulal-hodl8861]

Ummm... John McCain was NOT Cato

[@Johnconno]

I'm not interested in your partition!

[@ludviglidstrom6924]

People should look up Michael Hudson and what he has to say about this event and ancient Roman history in general from a kind of Marxist economic perspective. Very interesting. Brutus for example was apparently a notorious debt collector, very exploitative, and there was a general fear in the ruling class that Ceasar might cancel the debts for ordinary people.

[@phaethon3124]

i heard a theory that julius gaius was making money trading precious metal but this money drained out of the empire leading to deflation.if caesar insisted on numismatic base metal money as used before 200bc they could have retained economic integrity

[@aleksandarilic9806]

Comparing Caesar to Donald trump....

[@Sirharryflash82]

Comparing Cato to John McCain...

[@1789balzac]

Caesar is head and shoulders about Trump on every level. Completely wrong comparison. Caesar really did risk his life, a great orator, great writer. No comparison.

[@utubefreshie]

Yeah...as an American, I can't with this comparison. I know they were just trying to make it relatable for us but surely, there's a much better analogy. Caesar is one of the greatest emperors of all time. Probably more comparable to Napoleon. Trump is a deranged idiot more comparable to Caligula or George III. lol

[@utubefreshie]

​@@1789balzac​ Yeah... As an American, I can't with this comparison. I know they were just trying to make it relatable for us, but surely, there's a much better analogy. Caesar is one of the greatest emperors of all time, probably more comparable to Napoleon. Trump is a deranged idiot/demented old man more comparable to Caligula or George III. lol

[@1789balzac]

@@utubefreshie I think the comparison with Napoleon is valid. In some ways Napoleon had a greater task because he wasn't from the aristocracy. You're right Trump is more like a George III or Caligula in almost every sense :)

[@Desert-Father]

What a horrid apologia of one of the most notorious military dictators in human history.

[@ludviglidstrom6924]

Are you a fan of the old corrupt aristocracy?

[@Desert-Father]

@ludviglidstrom6924 I'm not a fan of a self aggrandizing tyrant who overthrew Republic because he doesnt want to be prosecuted for crimes he committed while in office. That was Caesar

[@TheDominionOfElites]

Oh come on. It's a fairly tame hour of podcast about Julius Caesar, one of the top 3 famous men in history. Are we really going to cry over this spilled milk?

[@Desert-Father]

@@TheDominionOfElites The is a difference between covering history and praising the man. They did the latter.

[@rdreidmehrabi]

You are brain damaged.

[@jingham9990]

Sulla?