308 Win 150gr TTSX Review

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Today on Alaskan Ballistics we are testing Barnes 150gr TTSX out of a Springfield M1A and an Aero Precision 18" M5 AR10? Using Ramshot TAC Powder, how fast can it go?
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[@brutalbob3982]

Nice Red Neck test Chuck. You loading was not shabby for sure. Good round!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank you Kindly

[@curmudgeinnak]

Very nice. Looks like a winner to me.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Hope it is with the suppressor on it

[@shanelowe3902]

Nice load!!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank You! Godspeed and good hunting!

[@montanamusings]

Impressive my friend.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks brother, see who needs a 6.8 western? 🤪

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍Those were really consistent and performed well too. Thanks Chuck

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks Lance!

[@beamonk]

The 130's zing with TAC

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yep... I've got a video on them too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/maushYmcaNd4nbMsi=aIxraibWA9duBGF3

[@diggernash1]

@@beamonk These are my settled, done whitetail bullets. I load them over Varget, so just a tad slower.

[@anthonydavinci7985]

Good data. Plus I'll add this very effective field test to extrapolate from, in future load development /testing. Thanks !

[@AlaskanBallistics]

You're welcome. Start low and work up.

[@nikos6220]

Alrighty, only 01:15 into the vid I am fired up. High pressure load from the book with new Starline. My Starline H2O capacity is always waaaay lower than SAAMI spec for the cartridge -let’s go.

[@nikos6220]

😂 and here we go at 02:00 - over 2900 fps out of basically at 20” with a copper bullet. That’s faster than what their pretty hot factory stuff does out of my 20” 30-06. Love this channel

[@nikos6220]

Would be interesting to see what speeds you get reloading the once fired brass with a proper should set back. Should be way lower and make room for significantly hotter load. My 30-06 hunting load gained another 80 fps by doing that

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks Nikos!

[@YTsux24-7]

I wish I had that chrono. Great vid Chuck!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Save your money for it. It's awesome

[@wadelucero6461]

Thats a great bullet even if you lose pedals your basically left with a hard cast base

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yes! Agreed.

[@travischapin886]

Excellent results!! Great video, too!! Thank you.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank You Travis!

[@gorillahd9247]

Another great video Chuck. Tight spread on the deviation!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank You!

[@diggernash1]

Has Bullwinkle succumb to your pursuit yet? The consistency of those velocities is nuts.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

No bullwinkle yet! I'm proud of those velocities for sure!

[@Manbunmen65]

Love the M1A I have two of them. That camo pattern is 🔥

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Nice! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.

[@Manbunmen65]

@@AlaskanBallistics You as well

[@FindersKeepers88]

Good, Thx

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thank You!

[@Calaveras32Spcl]

I have not used TAC, I used X-Term which from my reading is rebottled A2230. In a 22in bolt, my 150gr TTSX 308 gets 3k.

[@Snailz5]

Based on talking with Barnes, the 150gr isn’t the way I’d go. It has a higher velocity threshold than the 130gr and the 168gr (by a lot for the latter). The bc difference doesn’t let it catch up to the 130gr within the operational window and it doesn’t outpace the 168gr by more than expansion threshold difference. That being said, if you’re hunting typical 300 and in ranges and these shoot accurately, they’ll do the job just fine and I wouldn’t pick either of the other two options if you have a real accurate load with this bullets. Lastly, try LVR powder if you want to exceed 3000 fps. I’ve done that with other 150gr monos in my 22in 308.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Cool thank you. Appreciate the info!

[@TraditionalToolworks]

That might be so, but Chuck faces possible Grizzly bears. I think the 130 would come up short, just my $0.02...I have a 24" barrel that likes 168 gr SMKs, over 175s. It has a 1:10 twist. If you think about monolithics being slightly lighter bullets, the 150s seem like a sweet spot. For me, same with Elk, which I don't plan to hunt. I do plan Black bear. All of our mileage varies. But a 130 grain doesn't seem big enough. I'm sure it's plenty fast enough.🙂 EDIT: for that matter I think a 6.5 Grendel could take a black bear of 200-300 lbs. (not at extended range)

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I've got a 130gr video @TraditionalToolworks You might be surprised

[@constitutionalist4391]

@@AlaskanBallistics I will check it out! Thanks!

[@constitutionalist4391]

@@AlaskanBallistics I just watched it, that TTSX was devastating...over 3200 fps, that was XLNT. Do you think a 130 TTSX would take down a black bear? Seems like it could easily, and for that matter even the 6.5CM with a 127 LRX would most likely do it. Let's say 200-300 lb black bear.

[@TraditionalToolworks]

Do you think Natchez would sponsor a box of Hornady 150 gr. 308 CX? Thanks for the video!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Maybe but I'll probably just buy it locally

[@benjaminbrown1179]

Everything i shoot with barnes Projectiles ceases to exist. Oddly becomes ambient temperature real quick like.

[@evanphillips5061]

Great content, can you do this same test at 200-500yds?

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I don't currently have a place to do so. Check out a channel called Frontline rejects

[@benjaminbrown1179]

​@@AlaskanBallisticsgreat suggestion there hoss!

[@Accuracy1st]

Hopefully I'll find out what a 140 TSX will do on a whitetail in a couple months in a Tikka 7RemMag at 3150fps - Retumbo, Nosler brass, 215 match primer. During load confirmation i shot three 3 shot groups. Two were 3/4 MOA and one was just under half MOA. I think ES was around 30fps. First time trying this combo

[@AlaskanBallistics]

As long the range isn't where that bullet stops below 2200 to 2400 fps

[@Accuracy1st]

@@AlaskanBallistics The longest field on our property is 600 yards. Shots on deer are anywhere from 0 yards to that distance and there are so many deer I can wait a few minutes, maybe up to an hour an hour and frequently one will pop out of the wooded area within 300. I would not shoot beyond 400 yards with that set up.

[@ThemantleofElijah]

Hey chuck located in southern Missouri I’m from Washington state western Washington to be exact and I’m thinking of moving back west but I’m thinking Alaska wish I could have some direction we are believers so we always wait on Jesus for direction alright thanks and good video too

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks. Honestly, if you're worried about this country going downhill, I'd stay in Missouri. Close to agricultural lands, still a fairly low population, good gun laws etc.

[@ThemantleofElijah]

@@AlaskanBallistics yeah well I appreciate that but honestly Missouri has some bad aspects to it too it gets old having nearly five months of terrible hot summers with humidity so high and bugs like ticks and chiggers so bad u can’t go outside the heat with humidity make it inhospitable at least for me it’s the worst time of the year it starts being warm in anywhere from April with temps in 70s and like this summer it started being like really humid and not fun in June, I guess everywhere has its pros and cons but Missouri has great laws tho gun rights, deer hunting here is good but that’s all there is I miss elk hunting, I guess I just need Gods help everyday to just accept living here

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@ThemantleofElijah I grew up in Georgia, so the 6 months of summer I get and the mosquitoes here in Alaska will put your bugs to shame. Thousands of them literally swarm you in the summer.

[@ThemantleofElijah]

@@AlaskanBallistics yeah I’ve heard that the skeeters are bad I’d say your in a better place than Georgia I’m from the Pacific Northwest and to me Missouri or anywhere here in the south is worse than where I’m from I have considered moving to Alaska my wife and I have but the move seems daunting to say the least

[@JayELR7]

@@ThemantleofElijahI was born here in southern Missouri. I have been here most of my life. You are correct about the heat, humidity and insects. Permethrin? Helps with the insects. Nothing helps with the heat and humidity. Staying in the air conditioning. The south central MO area has changed quite a bit since the Clinton presidency. Still, maybe the best place in the USA as for the relaxed laws and the good hunting. Deer has always been my favorite, although if you enjoy the woods- I spent a large portion of my life, ‘hunting’. Squirrels, Turkeys, deer - then there is the predator hunting. From varmints such as raccoons and possums. To bobcat and coyote. Every hunt turns into a coyote hunt when I see one. I am a Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ myself. My belief: find where Jesus wants you to be. Which, if he doesn’t want you to be in any place particularly. Go where you feel the most comfortable. Faith- Jesus will never leave you nor forsake you. He will be where you are. May God bless you. In Jesus Name. Contact me sometime. We may have many things in common.

[@Accuracy1st]

Watched a vid awhile back. Man and his son elk hunted with 308. Can't remember if his Barnes bullet was the 150 or 168. I think the latter. IIRC, the shot distance was roughly 300 yards. Don't think the outcome was favorable after hitting the elk. Either they couldn't find it or it took forever to do so. He called Barnes to inform them. Ultimately he was told something along the lines that the velocity at the distance to the elk was not ideal, and I think he was advised to use a lighter bullet in 308. That's another reason I dropped to the 130s but will consider a 150 for sure. But I don't hunt elk with 308.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Yeah and the TSX bullet is worse than the ttsx or lrx on needing velocity.

[@Calaveras32Spcl]

@@Accuracy1st the Barnes slug needs about 2000fps of impact velocity to open well.

[@Accuracy1st]

@@Calaveras32Spcl I went all out when the TSX was introduced. My primary go-to was the 130 in my 270 Win that had a 25.5" Hart barrel. I loaded 57.0 gr Reloder 19 and stacked roughly 40 deer including mule deer with that set up over the years. Furthest shot was 185 muley in CO at 255 yards. Never knew how fast they were going but shot well and killed great. Secondary was 165 TSX in 30.06 with around 55.0 H4350. Many muleys and whitetails as well. The original 270 130 gr TSX had more of a secant ogive compared to later LOT #. I still have about 10 of the first batch and they are definitely longer nosed.

[@phild9813]

I think theoretically the 130, 150, and 168 should all have enough velocity in 308 at 300 yards to expand. I’ve seen the same video/review I believe and I’m not sure if I buy it, based on my experience with both the TSX and TTSX. I’ve also taken game with the LRX, Tac TX, and GMX/CX with good results.

[@Calaveras32Spcl]

@phild9813 the 130 starts faster but BC sucks. The heavier they are, slower the start but better they carry. I think the 168 opens at like 180 fps. That said, on a deer, even if they barely open an 308 should put them in the dirt. I shot my last deer with my handload, 150gr at 3k muzzle, at about 60 yards and turned both shoulders into burger.

[@MisterTengu]

I cannot find large rifle primers locally to save my life. What are your thoughts on the MidwayUSA factory second bullets?

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I've shot a few factory seconds, no issues. But weight sort then. Where is locally for you?

[@MisterTengu]

@@AlaskanBallistics western Kentucky, like anything within a 30 min radius of Paducah I've called and asked

[@AlaskanBallistics]

@MisterTengu use my mewe page link.... or message me on IG @therealalaskanballistics Or Twitter X @AKBallistics

[@rangetime6779]

I like your videos but I think you were abusing the M1A. It's not made for super hot 308 rounds.Great standard deviations btw.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

It ran those and other hot loads just fine... and we're not really that hot, still 0.5grs of powder away from maximum

[@anonymousf454]

Take that sucker along on your next moose hunt. You could probably get a double or tripple tap off. DRT Moose....no tracking😂

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Maybe so.

[@anonymousf454]

@@AlaskanBallistics I always heard Moose do not move sometimes even when hit square in the kill box. If that is the case, a double/tripple tap is certainly possible. I am not sure if anyone practices that, but im guessing it could be quite effective. If the 2nd or even 3rd round is placed close to the previous rounds, im sure the effect would be greatly compounded, as its basically disrupting tissue that has just been disrupted by the previous round.

[@teddy2guns404]

First

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Thanks Bro

[@kearneydillon4803]

When you assume the round is safe to shoot because it is not a max load, you put yourself at risk. You should instruct listeners to start low and WORK UP to maximum FOR YOUR GUN. Each gun is unique. Metalurgy consistency, Chamber size, rifling proximity/leade location, bore size and smoothness, etc are different for every gun. Even 2 guns made back to back on an assembly line by the same person will be different. (Example such as chatter marks in the rifling from different amounts of honing oil used during rifling process) Just because 0.5gr less than max works IN YOUR GUN, Doesnt mean it will for all subscribers. Just a reminder to work up from starting loads. My friend has a big scar between his eyes and on his arm because he ALWAYS USED MAX loads. Never worked up. Blew up his Tikka.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I did extensive testing before making the video. I always do. Often I'll document it in youtube shorts, but just as often don't.

[@kearneydillon4803]

​@@AlaskanBallisticsI should have added that I WASN'T chastising. Just reminding the beginner reloaders out there WHY they shouldn't immediately try your recipe, as I assume at least 1 viewer may not try a workup. This is more of a friendly reminder to the novice reloaders WHY they should start low. I love your channel. Absolutely no-B.S., no-nonsense shooting. Best bang-for-your-buck on youtube. Being severely ADHD has rendered me with a crappy, convoluted way of explaining things, hence why I probably rubbed you wrong. Sorry. Just saw a tiny opportunity to educate those novice reloaders who have no hands-on mentor. Working up loads are ABC's to most, but these days I always assume people do what I do, but with MUCH less information.

[@janbastein7355]

130 gr only please in 308 Win! They need speed to open up properly! Thanks.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I think these 150gr will be gone at the short ranges I'm hunting with them at. I do like the 130gr. Wish they were as accurate in this rifle.