308 Winchester with Barnes 130 TTSX bullets!

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I shoot the 130gr Barnes TTSX bullet with Starline Brass in 308 Winchester and it's fully compressed. See how it performs, is it safe?
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[@sylviacandler5541]

I seat this bullet .050 off of the lands. Win 748 is 3200 fps in the accuracy charge with cci 200, with Varget not being too far behind. If you pull the front rest back, grip the forearm, pulling down and back at a 45* angle, your group will improve substantially. We shoot incredible groups with Win and Rem brass with this bullet. Approximately the same loads work well with the 125g Sierra's, which kill big deer like a bolt of lightening!

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@RogerSnell]

I've been wanting to see videos like this!

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks for watching

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

That’s a really good start Happy hunting

[@hopefulballistics]

Thank you! Same

[@joew5792]

Glad to see it worked out for ya! I was pretty apprehensive when i was doing this load as well 😂

[@hopefulballistics]

Lol

[@nikos6220]

Love the Starline brass and I think it’s hard to beat at the price point. That being said, the new brass is certainly short on H2O volume. My 30-06 cases were 3 grains below SAAMI spec

[@hopefulballistics]

Yeah that’s been my experience.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Pretty good results IMO. Decent velocity. Good stuff. Thank you.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks for watching!

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

That little 130 gr Barnes TTSX is a cool bullet.

[@hopefulballistics]

Yes it is

[@jessdurfee3817]

I shoot 150 grain E-tip and TTSX bullets in my 308. They group around a half inch at 100 yards and are doing right 3000FPS.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@jessdurfee3817 nice!

[@wemcal]

Great video

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks!

[@vaughanrichards698]

My favourite load. Settled at 53gr for same reasons with 5-8 SD. Very quick at 3000fps in 16" tube

[@hopefulballistics]

Nice!

[@carltonbottenbley2118]

Let’s see the 30-06!! I have some makers in 130 I wanna try! So this is really helpful

[@hopefulballistics]

Yep the video is out. 130 TTSX, Big Game, in 30-06.

[@bryanbest5113]

I've got a jigsaw with broken blade holder. Made a small box of plywood......jigsaw running. Loading block on top. Just enough vibration to make powder settle. Less crunching, seating compressed loads. 308, 130ttsx basically a 260rem

[@hopefulballistics]

Nice

[@MisterBrewer]

Sweet load and good shooting. ID just go with the first one.

[@hopefulballistics]

Probably right, thanks

[@derekmcmurry]

One of my loads this past deer season! Well, don't know what powder you used, if you said, I missed it. I tagged a few deer on my dad's place last season. 130 Barnes TTSX, Winchester brass, Fed210M primer, near max load TAC, 3200fps, Factory Tikka T3x. But mine never shot as well as yours which is why I changed barrels and stock. Much better now. When I get my 30.06 back I might test that same bullet in it

[@joew5792]

W748

[@hopefulballistics]

Sweet, I used w748

[@afader6898]

Good groups and shooting, ive never personally had any issues with compressed loads in rifle or pistol, try a drop tube to help settle the powder better in the case, I have also seen a loss of velocity at max as opposed to a grain or two below max with various powders and bullet combos

[@hopefulballistics]

That’s interesting. I saw that the other day with a hot 22-250 load. The last and hottest load went down in velocity.

[@afader6898]

Have seen it in 300 win mag, 41 rem mag, 30-30 to name a few, also, if you have some, try reloader 15, imr 4064, h414 or w760 with the 130s in the 06

[@carlpreston1680]

I use RL17 in my 270 win and my WSM it seems to be made with a little bit of magic

[@jameswilson5562]

Good shooting

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks!

[@danielandrews7028]

I had this issue before with ZQI mil-spec once fired brass (my brass). Same exact 130grn ttsx. I emailed Barnes and they said with military brass reduce charge by 10% Your brass looks exactly how mine did.

[@hopefulballistics]

Interesting, thanks!

[@TheCodyO]

I think you found the peak of the speed your barrel was able to provide you. With a longer barrel I bet you would have seen a more significant jump in velocity.

[@hopefulballistics]

You could be right

[@jrhunt414]

Just got a browning x bolt micro in 308. 20” barrel. Been trying to load up a lighter recoil load. Have been using 125 ssts. Turns out that they don’t like much speed before they act like a varmint bullet. Probably will do fine on deer. The next thing I want to try is 130 ttsx. I’m starting to believe more in the high speed large diameter copper bullets. My buddy drew a moose tax and he’s going to use a 30-06 150 CX superformance. Can’t wait to see what it does compared to 180 bonded bear claws and 220 round nose that I usually use. Now I gotta get some of those 130 ttsx bullets to try.

[@hopefulballistics]

I’m curious to know as well, how that 150 CX compares to your other bullets.

[@randysmith8604]

I load a 125 grn nosler in 308 . 50 grns of varget . Its a tac driver .

[@hopefulballistics]

@@randysmith8604 sweet!

[@Shaggy_Rogers0001]

This same 130 grain bullet achieves 3,400 ft/s with 3,336 ft-lbs out of a 26 inch barrel!

[@hopefulballistics]

Yep, I could see that

[@Shaggy_Rogers0001]

@@hopefulballistics I forgot to mention that this was a 30-06 that got that velocity.

[@chipsterb4946]

I called Barnes about using their 130 grain TTSX in .270 Winchester yesterday because the powder I have - H4831SC - shows as a compressed load in the Barnes data for the maximum load. I’ve never loaded with compressed powder, but the Barnes tech pretty much told me “don’t worry - be happy.” I asked about using a drop tube and he told me that definitely would help and recommended a specific one (Forster).

[@hopefulballistics]

Interesting, thanks!

[@batmantiss]

I'm glad the Barnes shot well for you. We tried and tried to load for my 7mm-08 and couldn't make them happen.

[@hopefulballistics]

Every rifle is different

[@doghousedon1]

Using CFE223 and the 120gr TTSX, I'm getting 3215 fs out of a 24" barrel and 3090 from a 20. It's not quite a max load listed from Barnes load data. You might consider trying that powder.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@doghousedon1 this is an older video. I’ve made a more recent video with TAC and 130 TTSX at 3300fps. I’ve also got 2850 with CFE223 with 172 Speer Impacts.

[@doghousedon1]

​@hopefulballistics I realize this is an old video. Batmans question was with the 7-08 and dated one month ago. My reply was specific to his question. I did not give my charge weight, but I listed the source for him to work with. I did not intend to step on your vid. Your vid did give me some insights on another project I'm working on, using that TTSX bullet in a 14" 30‐30 Ackley barrel. I have a bucket of 748 powder to play with too. Thank you.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

We loaded ours with TAC powder at 0.7grs below the Mac and it was still compressed. We got 3216 out of a Springfield m1a... 3150 out of my 18" ar10

[@hopefulballistics]

I need to get some TAC. You’re the 2nd person to tell me it works great for 308 in lighter bullets.

[@keithreese9636]

​@@hopefulballistics50.0gr tac under 130gr ttsx chronograph @ 3160 20"barrel mod 70. Have no doubt 3200 possible with a max load of 51.1 I'm really loving this Tac stuff 1st time I ever tried it

[@katashi222]

Try 308 175g 45c gr.....you will get better groups and out to 800m - 1000m.....i stack them bulleyes at 600m. Howa M1500 APC 24" barrel 2 stage trigger.

[@lenzadlberger]

I have loaded these 130gn Barnes TTSX with 46.7gn Lovex D073.5 and get 3021ft/s out of my 20 inch Barrel thats plenty enough for me max load would be around 47.9gn casefill is around 92% with Bullet inside so not nearly as full as yours, out of a 23-24 inch Barrel it would be around your numbers. They work great on Roe, Red- Fallowdeer and Wildboar

[@hopefulballistics]

Very nice! Thanks.

[@gregorhasengschwandtner3535]

I loaded the 130 ttsx with 47,5gn lovex 73.4. 3200 fps out of.my tikka with 24 inch barrell

[@Snailz5]

2.845 OAL, 48.5gr Varget, Norma Brass, 3044 fps, ~0.7 MOA out of my axis II with a 22” barrel. Never used it to hunt because I burned through them due to some scope issues and switched to hammer bullets before taking that rifle out. I wouldn’t doubt it to be a very effective performer on whitetails at typical ranges.

[@hopefulballistics]

Right on, thanks!

[@hikenmikes8262]

How those hammer bullets treating you? Are they 130 or 135? Did you stick with Varget 48.5? Any signs of pressure?

[@Snailz5]

@@hikenmikes8262 No signs of pressure for the 130 ttsx with 48.5 gr Varget. That's probably a grain or so off max with non-Winchester (which has higher capacity than most) brass. Hammers shoot well, but their BC numbers can't be trusted and are generally rather inflated. I have the 137. If you want to run TTSX the 130 is good if your chamber/mag are short. If you have the length, the 168gr TTSX is the best 30 cal bullet for the 308 win. It expands at a lower impact velocity (1500 fps) than the rest of the 30's that you can reasonably shoot (the 200gr LRX may tie it, but a 308 won't shoot it fast enough to matter). The 175gr LRX is a close second. The 150 and 165 should be avoided for 308.

[@hikenmikes8262]

@@Snailz5thanks for the information! I have a box of Cutting Edge Bullets raptor 135gr for a 308 lever action and was trying to get a good starting point.

[@Snailz5]

@@hikenmikes8262 if you want to chase speed, Leverevolution yeets them pretty good and has shot well for multiple bullets for me. TAC is also fast, but I've had trouble finding consistent, accurate loads. CFE 223 and my gun hate each other. Benchmark can produce small groups and is very temp stable, but it gives up speed to varget. I have StaBall match, but haven't shot it yet, but have heard good things. H4895, N135, or N140 would work well for a 135gr bullet. 308 is the window of a lot of great powders.

[@Blong243]

My experience with compressed loads is very limited, 22 hornet and possibly the 243. Different case brands have different capacities which seems odd. Only issue was this summer my hornet's bolt stuck a few times. 243 compressed kicked enough that i don't load them anymore.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@jeffreywilson690]

Try it with rl 15 or hybrid v 100

[@jamespollard1670]

My 1st thought was you may have used 30-06 data in a 308 case as full as that case was .

[@hopefulballistics]

That’s a logical thought, but not the case.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I want to know what you kill with them! .300winmag getting 3600+

[@tonyZ338]

Winchester brass will give you more room.

[@CircleBrewery]

Thanks for the video 😊. I’ve been curious about 130 gn Barnes but my rifle doesn’t shoot 150 gn well, so I’m not sure it will shoot 130 gn well. I’ve got 1:10 twist barrel.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks for watching!

[@albertaoutdoors9220]

You never know till you try. Be nice if you can get a hold of 10 bullets to test before going out to buy 50.

[@trevorkolmatycki4042]

I suppose one could argue that the 130gr TTSX is superior to the 150gr TTSX in 308WIN for WT deer and antelope hunting inside of 400yd… there is a conversation to be had there. You don’t need a high sectional density for these smaller animals. The higher velocity of the lighter bullet will provide a much flatter trajectory and more rapid expansion. Hmm…

[@hopefulballistics]

Yep worth thinking about

[@johnanon3081]

I was thinking same thing. Compare factory 130 TTSX .270 to the .308 and they give near identical performance. A lot would say a 130 .270 can take game out to 500 yards. So, a 130 .308 should easily take game at 400 yards. Pretty cool that you can get a .308 to act like a .270 with these light rounds and get a 150/165 to act almost like a .30-06 with similar bullet weights.

[@milo555100]

I’ve been loading this bullet too. Getting 2850fps with Varget with an 18” barrel. It Is ACCURATE too. So very pleased. Did you say what propellant you were using? I may have missed it. I truly think this bullet is about perfect for whitetail and mule deer. Id be fine to shoot a big elk with it at the bullet expanding range. I really like this bullet so far. Seems to be devastating. Do you mind sharing your C.O.A.L?

[@hopefulballistics]

My ogive to base is 2.236, 50 thou off the lands. I believe the COAL is 2.893, I don’t have that number written down or one loaded to measure.

[@Portlycranium]

Lotsa loads are compressed on certain calibers. Not a concern if you work up the loads. Varget and tac are poss better modern choice powder. But 748 is great in my brother 308.

[@hopefulballistics]

I made this video awhile ago. I’ve went back and found tremendous velocity with TAC.

[@frederickking1660]

3150 fps with a 308 is incredible. Try a magnum primer.

[@artifacthunter1472]

Hey Magnum, primer will just lower the pressure a smidge with a more consistent burn.

[@thomaskolditz4293]

Use all copper Cavity Back bullets. Best of the best for compressed loads and I've gotten great performance out of their bullets on game.

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@albundy7459]

I’m not a fan of compressed loads because it limits the seating depth to tune it in. If you find a bullet that doesn’t like to jump a lot there shouldn’t be an issue though.

[@hopefulballistics]

Good point

[@TheReloadingPastor]

I just bought some TTSX in 130 grain for my .308. What powder are you using?

[@hopefulballistics]

W748 compressed

[@randysmith8604]

The Barnes bullets are longer than lead bullets you will always compress loads unless you seat to the lans or use less than the minimum powder charge. I suggest using a ball powder you can get more in the case.

[@hopefulballistics]

I’m 20 thou off the lands. This was ball powder. I’ve loaded Barnes/monolith bullets before, never had to compress a load. This was a specific case of this particular powder and this cartridge.

[@randysmith8604]

@@hopefulballistics i tried loading them for a 300 win mag. I did some compressed loads. They were safe but didn’t care for it so stopped using them bullets. Whats your opinion on the issue. They are good bullets.

[@randysmith8604]

@@hopefulballistics that jump should of had plenty of room.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@randysmith8604 it’s not a bullet issue imo. It’s just the W748 probably wasn’t the right powder for the 308 with the 130 gr TTSX, unless I didn’t care about the velocity.

[@hopefulballistics]

@@randysmith8604 reviewing it in my head, I think I actually had them at 50 thou from lands. To get the velocity I wanted there wasn’t enough case capacity with the W748.

[@ReloadingQuest]

So now that you shot the brass and it’s fire formed the case capacity will be hired so I would shoot your group agin to double check your groups and fps. And looking for to the 30-06!

[@hopefulballistics]

True, thanks

[@Bulldog458]

what powder were you using? and have you tested any others?

[@hopefulballistics]

W748, yes Varget was better and TAC was the best

[@keithreese9636]

Barnes suggests an coal of 2.735 for the 130gr ttsx 308win. But yet their factory load measures 2.710,some even a little shorter. Wonder why that is?

[@hopefulballistics]

Good question. Just to be extra safe and universal, I guess.

[@keithreese9636]

@@hopefulballistics just checked another box of their factory load with different lot# measurements varies from 2.710 to 2.715. Maybe I'm just being too nit-picky? After all it is mass produced ammo & shoots decent groups so far

[@timsmith7315]

What powder did you use? Great video, thank you

[@hopefulballistics]

In this video it was W748.

[@ronlowney4700]

☹ If I could ever find the primers that I need, the 110 TTSX bullet can be pushed 3,500 ft/s out of my 270 Winchester - Which would be a "Great Deer Load"! 🦌

[@hopefulballistics]

It would

[@ronlowney4700]

Hunting Season Isn't That Far Away Either! 🥳

[@fedup3582]

What velocity were you trying to reach?

[@hopefulballistics]

I believe at the time I was thinking over 3200, maybe 3250.

[@geoffreyanderson4456]

300wsm with that bullet, AWESOME!! Stick to 2.5 to 3 grains under max for no pressure.😂😂😂

[@JonRangel87]

What rifle are you shooting?

[@hopefulballistics]

A sporterized Mauser 98

[@giar9124]

Pissin hot tree oh ate gobbless brother

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks for watching

[@justingrantham6127]

What’s your barrel twist

[@hopefulballistics]

1 in 10

[@vodekz1534]

Can you use a different powder ?

[@hopefulballistics]

I already have in other videos, and I’ll be using TAC next. Stay tuned

[@vodekz1534]

@@hopefulballistics super

[@milo555100]

W748. Got it. Pardon me.

[@jeffreywilson690]

My only information is from 30/06 Don't know speed U will not catch one in a thitetail Ime guessing 3100 velocity

[@hopefulballistics]

Thanks

[@mattsflytying2816]

What powder are using?

[@hopefulballistics]

I believe in this video it was W748

[@mattsflytying2816]

@@hopefulballistics thanks. Ive recently started working up loads for the barnes 130 ttsx thank you for sharing

[@hopefulballistics]

@@mattsflytying2816 more recently I’ve used TAC. It’s amazing with that bullet in 308.

[@mattsflytying2816]

@@hopefulballistics i will check that out thanks

[@diggernash1]

Dem rascals look long. What OAL?

[@hopefulballistics]

I don’t have one to measure. I did a base to ogive measurement. It was 50 thousand off the lands. I would say it was a little over max length.

[@ccfdmd]

​@@hopefulballistics Did you notice any issues with it seating longer than you wanted?

[@hopefulballistics]

@@ccfdmd none

[@realmetis8002]

Nice shooting.. what model is that rifle I seen the flag safety or am I wrong

[@hopefulballistics]

Its name is Frankenstein, lol. Yugo M48A action. The barrel is from a Steyr Chilean Mauser rebarrel in 1961. When they converted the rifles from 7mm Mauser to 7.62 NATO. The stock is a Boyd’s stock. With a timney trigger. A gunsmith sporterized it for me including the safety. Nothing special, but it’s always shot well.

[@realmetis8002]

@hopefulballistics I kinda figured it was a mixed up kind but I like those diy custom projects..thank you for your reply 😎🤟

[@hasanmustafov2505]

C.O.A.L?

[@hopefulballistics]

My ogive to base is 2.236, 50 thou off the lands. I believe the COAL is 2.893, I don’t have that number written down or one loaded to measure.

[@articfox1066]

Is a 308 cal, a 30cal bullet. I know a 30-30 is a 30 cal bullet, and a 30-06 is a 30 cal bullet. A 308 cal, is a 308 cal, no ??.😊😊.

[@hopefulballistics]

308 is 30 caliber, literally .308 inches. The same as all other 30 cals. Most 38 pistol rounds are .357”. I know, confusing.

[@articfox1066]

Cheers

[@renebilodeau4243]

Way too much powder you were asking for serious serious problems

[@hopefulballistics]

You think?

[@boknows3841]

Looks like someone doesn't know anything about reloading.