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@mr.mr.330115 күн бұрын
I’m still so shocked how much this channel has grown. I’m happy for you. Keep up the good work. I love it and I have shared it to many different groups on Facebook, etc..
@masonoutdoors_masonleather15 күн бұрын
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@mr.mr.330115 күн бұрын
I believe your channel has grown big enough that you may be could get an interview with someone at the bullet ammo manufacturers
@tyrellaqua731015 күн бұрын
I think that dilutes the objective of being truthful about the performance. Instead... Pay the man by supporting the channel with a membership so he can buy more ammo!
@brianmeyer911914 күн бұрын
You’re killing it. You’re like project farm for ballistics guys, but with easy to understand data and excellent explanations. Really appreciate what you’re doing.
@pauldickson149515 күн бұрын
Great video . Thanks for taking the time to do all three in one video .
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@richardlucas215515 күн бұрын
Thanks mason for all you do for ballistics for hunting
@masonoutdoors_masonleather15 күн бұрын
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@oncall2115 күн бұрын
Thank Mason. Appreciate seeing the difference in bullet weights from the same calibre. Thanks for sharing.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@cory879115 күн бұрын
I come from a Remington core-Lokt family they are a great bullet as long you don't use them in a magnum cartridge! Great vid!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@furmanmackey547915 күн бұрын
Because I will be doing most, if not all, of my deer hunting in a rather open area this year I will be loading my trusty old Savage '99E with the middle range weight .308 Corelokt ammo. My rifle seems to like it best of all the other ammo brands I've tried in it and the bullet weight seems to be its favorite. Corelokt may not be all it once was, but my rifles digest it without complaint compared to other well-known brand names I have tried in my lever guns.
@azrls4318515 күн бұрын
Great deer loads for most of us. Because they are so equal across the board, I think it would be quite useful to do a point of impact comparison between weights.
@Simon-talks15 күн бұрын
This is like an old classic collaboration between Mark Chestnut, Clint Black and Joe Diffie!!!
@guardianminifarm800515 күн бұрын
Great comparison and test. This is excellent that you put all 3 together at the same time. What a huge help. I am pleased and impressed with results. I too would prefer at least 100fps more in all 3 weights. But this was a great demonstration of performance. Many thanks.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@jacquesbeliveau271612 күн бұрын
You must remember factories use a universal receivers and a 24 INCH, BULL GARREL to test the 308 WIN. SO YOUR 22 inch barrel will have a lesser velocity.
@redleg8415 күн бұрын
Fantastic job testing the ammo. I watch alot of ammo/bullet tests and this was among the best.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@BornAgain201915 күн бұрын
Great video. Very informative, just purchased 6 boxes of this ammo in 3 different calibers. In accuracy tests performed on other channels it has shone great promise. Also just purchased a couple rifle stock cuffs, a lever wrap and a latigo sling during your Labor day sale. Thanks for all you do and God Bless.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@larrysayers137715 күн бұрын
That is a great video. I can see why your channel has grown so much. It’s great you’re exposing the marketing bs of ammo manufacturers. Keep it up. I’m enjoying your content
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@mikeTyson3298 күн бұрын
Nice job, clean gel!
@myronheyward64293 күн бұрын
GREAT VIDEO.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather3 күн бұрын
Glad to be of service, thanks for watching!
@ejsocci263015 күн бұрын
Another great video Mason.👊🏻
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@johnreynolds649915 күн бұрын
You do a nice job. Thanks for sharing.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@dannybeck600515 күн бұрын
Awesome video mason!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@richardaugustine184215 күн бұрын
Really love this channel ❤️
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@patchitwood742815 күн бұрын
Great job. I love these bulletin weight comparisons. It would be really cool to see a similar video of Barnes TTSX in either 308 or 30-06. Keep up the good work!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@spikesb115 күн бұрын
Best reviews on KZbin!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@pastorjosh4415 күн бұрын
Great content man.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@darrylpacholko549515 күн бұрын
I used this bullet on whitetail 2 years ago. Only a 110 yd shot but they performed well.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Awesome
@MrHiggsrocks15 күн бұрын
Like you .. I don’t like the velocity of them. That’s why we hand load💪🏻💯 - Appreciate ya Brother 💯
@masonoutdoors_masonleather15 күн бұрын
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@orr89rocz14 күн бұрын
Yup, so anemic in factory loads. These bullets look like sierra tipped gamekings and i run the 165’s in lapua brass to over 2930 in a 26”.
@edeldridge3615 күн бұрын
With the info you give us and a ballistic calculator pretty accurate trajectories can be calculated. But one thing missing from most of the factory information is the minimum velocity at which the bullet will expand. With that information, in addition to the actual velocity, you can easily see what should be the maximum distance you should be using the load for.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree, I also firmly believe that whatever that maximum distance is is far, far beyond where most hunters have any business taking a shot.
@edeldridge3614 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather Absolutely true. Most loads are effective to ranges I would be uncomfortable with.
@greasydot15 күн бұрын
Thanks Mason for your time and money spent helping the average hunter know what to use for ethical hunting. Still needs to be proofed in their firearm but takes a lot of guess work out for the normal shooter.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@jamesfrizzell25114 күн бұрын
Mason, have you ever done, or considered doing these for muzzleloaders/black powder? Just a thought, I'd watch it.
@WallyMerc0615 күн бұрын
Looks like he 165s are the sweet spot for these. Great video.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@johanh249615 күн бұрын
Great video, would be cool to see a comparison with the interlocks in the same weights!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@fonzi10715 күн бұрын
Loving your vids. Thinking about picking a box up of the 180’s to see what they can do out of my savage axis.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@EricChmelarsky15 күн бұрын
Nicely done. Seeing the difference between the weights 150,165,180. I'd say these are on par with the SST by Hornady, if not a tad better.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Thanks for your support, glad to be of service! These are far better than SST’s in my opinion.
@ericstites947015 күн бұрын
Good video! Most ammo makers test with a 24" barrel, so you can already expect slower than what the box says. But it sounds like these would be weak even with a 24" barrel.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Thanks for your support, glad to be of service! I know, I was (trying to be) being sarcastic in the video.
@Tritamer2 күн бұрын
You could do an entirely new series with all ammo again by shooting rib bone and shoulder bone embedded in gelatin.
@williamgaines978415 күн бұрын
If they all retail within a few $ of each other, the load, as you have said, that shoots the best groups should be the pick. If those blocks could talk, I could just hear some saying, "Why do I always have to be the first block in the line?! Number three just sits back there hardly getting touched, while I get smoked and flipped and rolled in the dirt and grass!" 😂
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Don’t worry, the blocks all get their turn 🤣
@panzer503315 күн бұрын
Hell yeah brother!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@727xer15 күн бұрын
I'm old and haven't bought factory ammo in over 30 years. But back in the day it stated; ammo tested in a 26/28" fixed test barrel (not a rifle) right on the side of the box.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Not anymore. And the overwhelming majority of factory rifles in non-magnum calibers have 22” or shorter barrels. I know what barrel length the factories use, I was being sarcastic. They use ridiculous, unrealistic and not-in-common-use barrel lengths with particularly tight specs to create unrealistic velocity numbers for marketing purposes.
@21psd12 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather exactly, its all about marketing! They should indicate on the box or at least on their website as to what barrel length was used for the velocity tests.
@paulstaney3258 күн бұрын
It's been like that for years, that's why I started hand loading in 1981. It's amazing how much you can gain by doing so.@masonoutdoors_masonleather
@timsmith583715 күн бұрын
Nice work,
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@trg376115 күн бұрын
i normally reload my own ammo but if i needed factory loaded i would defiantly give these a go, but not sure the velocity out of my 20" barrel i get 2670 with 168 gr bullets.
@geraldkriss11207 күн бұрын
G.K. U.S.A. Try the Hornady Superformance ammo. They give you not only what is stated on the box, but an additional 150- 200 fps velocity. I know because I chronographed them in 270, .308, 30-06, and 338. All were very accurate.
@johnandrosemarywyatt97715 күн бұрын
The ammo world has passed remington by. Their quality control has been questionable at best, as has the revolving door of ownership. The tip is whipped cream on horse shit and 5 years late. They are also more expensive than fusion ammo, which is a lot of bullet for the money. Thanks for giving it "the old college try".
@johnnorman770815 күн бұрын
The ammo world has not passed Remington by. Remington and Federal As well as CCI Speer are sister companies now, are sharing technology and even product production. What Remington did or did not do, or was doing prior to Visita getting the plant back up and running out of the huge bankruptcy aquisition is history. Remington ammo is on store shelves virtually everywhere that's anywhere now. Classic loads and new Premium loads are just as good as ever. Wouldn't surprise me to see even more premium offerings from Remington in the future since anything inside the corporate umbrella is theoretically available to them now. But that will of course depend on marketing strategy.
@BigdaddyE7115 күн бұрын
Is there any possibility that these are just rebranded SST bullets???
@johnnorman770815 күн бұрын
Yes. It's been rumored that Hornady does contracts for Remington. No real surprise. Hornady from a capacity standpoint is a bullet making monster these days.
@kentspeigner873814 күн бұрын
@@johnnorman7708Agree!
@Fisherhunt567 күн бұрын
Factories usually use a 26" barrel.
@clinkerclint15 күн бұрын
Deadliest mushroom in the woods still hunts!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather15 күн бұрын
I think these did great overall
@jasonforester457215 күн бұрын
Appreciate your work Mason. It's really very helpful to see the results from different ammo types on your channel. Ammo has become ridiculously expensive. Especially here in Canada. Lord Thunderin'!!! It really helps seperate the wheat from the chaff and helps folks avoid paying extortionate prices for s**t ammo for hunting. I'm also interested in your leather products. Specifically the Latigo slings. I'd like to know if you can make slings with rifle brand embossing. Can you make one with "Sako" embossed in it? Do you ship to Canada? Keep up the informative (And money saving) work. Thanks. 😎👍
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Thanks for your support, glad to be of service! My slings are not customizable, I ship worldwide 👍🏼
@jasonforester457214 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather Okay. Thanks for the info.
@samuelrichards748110 күн бұрын
I love this channel
@davidshearer693210 күн бұрын
Might try ppu match Several grain weights available.
@PassivePortfolios15 күн бұрын
The simple answer is it depends on the size of the game you are hunting. There are exceptions, such as hunters who want deeper penetration vs more expansion. Those velocity numbers indicate the 308 is a warmed up 30-30, greatly inferior to the 30-06.
@chemex996815 күн бұрын
They all do the Job
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@Lilcrossbow15 күн бұрын
THAT JELLY WAS DANCING
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@mikeTyson3298 күн бұрын
I swear if you’re using old dirty gel that I can’t see results in, I’ll never click on another one of your videos. 😂
@Rucksack5711 күн бұрын
How did you get that finish on your rifle? Looks great!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather11 күн бұрын
Krylon Fusion and mesh netting, thanks!
@kylecasetta409114 күн бұрын
Would love to see a 180gr face off 180rn sp vs 180psp vs 180 tipped sp be interesting to see if same "style" of bullets just different configuration of tip
@rickyfitzgerald668814 күн бұрын
How did you paint the rifle stock? It is sharp!
@masonoutdoors_masonleather13 күн бұрын
Thanks, Krylon and mesh netting
@sstein4914 күн бұрын
Green box ammo was our family staple back in the 70’-80’s , those 165g laid out lots game deer , elk , nilgai I shoot Norma ammo now days, and they are a little faster generally also, why hunters get chinched on velocity is beyond my comprehension, ammo manufacturers should be punished for false information when it is -100fps average
@TTT-du6oj15 күн бұрын
Solid👍
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@WayneGent-t2l15 күн бұрын
Do some nosler please love the channel 270 win
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@WayneGent-t2l14 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather love the channel thanks for the hard work
@WillyK5115 күн бұрын
There is a sweetspot, kind of ballance between cartridge/Bullet. I personally think for a 308 it's 150 grns, My 30-06 is 165 grns and for a 300WM it's 180 grns. Of Course you can load 130 to 220 grns Bullets. BUT??
@jackbolen500115 күн бұрын
Another great video. So, I don’t understand suppressors. Your 22” barrel is 30” with the suppressors. Wouldn’t it still make sense to have a longer barrel and get the speed. If I wanted to shoot a quiet gun I’d shoot pellet rifles. I want speed and power. Even if you use a 26” barrel it is more portable that a canned 22”.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
The overwhelming (as in statistically almost all) majority of 308 Winchester rifles commercially available have 22” or shorter barrels. The length of the suppressor and the suppressor itself is materially irrelevant, I’m using it because I’m firing a bunch of stuff on a range for several days straight and would rather not damage my hearing any more than necessary. I don’t hunt with this rifle at all and would hate to with a giant honking suppressor on the end or with some unnecessarily long barrel.
@jackbolen500114 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather but I’m the guy that thinks a 7mm-378 weatherby magnum with a 30” barrel would make a great whitetail rig. But I understand why one would use a supressor at a bench. On a bench I wear foamies and muffs at the range but all of my guns have terminator or precision armament brakes. Anywho was just curious. Love your show and content.
@lukelee893413 күн бұрын
2700 fps for a 180 grain bullet is 30-06 velocity
@mr.mr.330115 күн бұрын
What I find interesting is that the SST is a tipped interlock bullet. The core tip is a core lock that has been tipped. In both cases, they do not retain as much weight as the soft point counterpart. Which makes me very curious for the federal fusion tipped.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather15 күн бұрын
I’m editing 3 Federal Fusion Tipped videos right now (.270, 7 Mag, 300 Mag), the results are very interesting.
@johncadloni453815 күн бұрын
The fusion is bonded though.
@NCWoodlandRoamer15 күн бұрын
@@johncadloni4538Yes that should make a difference.
@mr.mr.330115 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather Can’t wait. I’m a fan
@michaelowen619715 күн бұрын
Still one of the deadliest mushrooms in the woods.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
These would definitely do the trick
@longridgearchery14 күн бұрын
99% sure Tipped Core Lokts are just Hornady SSTs. They’re both owned by Vista Group
@BrokenBarBox14 күн бұрын
Hornady is not owned by Vista. Federal, CCI and Remington are.
@longridgearchery14 күн бұрын
You’re right maybe it was Federal I was think of. Either way pretty sure Hornady is making that bullet for them.
@briankopp136915 күн бұрын
I haven't tried the tipped, but have been using the 180s in -06 for 40 years. Not great, consistently get core/cup separation, but for everything in Florida they work fine.
@duckwacker872015 күн бұрын
No reason for 180gr in 06. Stick with 165gr.
@liverpool638015 күн бұрын
Can you review 130 Barnes
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@jameskennedy698215 күн бұрын
How come you don't stabilize they'll blocks with straps? It would seem to me you loose some depth of penetration by the movement of the front block??
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
The blocks would rip themselves apart, you can do that with pistol rounds, not rifles of any real power. The strap doesn’t give, the block gives around it, it rips itself apart. I’ve done it. No penetration depth is lost, by the time the block is moving the bullet is already in the second, third, fourth block.
@StreetLight09915 күн бұрын
Devastating wound cavities! Crazy to see what a basic polymer tipped bullet will do. For most game I believe these are better than bonded or monolithic copper bullets
@craigparker410815 күн бұрын
As seen on this channel with expansion & weight retention they are a poor choice compared to Federal Fusion. Your statement doesn't hold water.
@StreetLight09914 күн бұрын
@@craigparker4108 Look up Nathan Foster. There’s a substantial amount of research on why a bullet losing weight is a good thing and it’s one of the hallmarks of cup and core bullets. Weight retention has its merits in specific situations on specific animals but it is not nearly as important as what marketing makes it seem
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@StreetLight09914 күн бұрын
@@craigparker4108 look up Nathan foster and the research he’s done on ballistics. A good article of his is ‘homogenous copper bullets can be inhumane’ and in this he talks about how important it is for bullets to shed weight and why cup and core bullets are generally the best thing to use
@johnnorman770815 күн бұрын
.308 just kinda chokes on bullets heavier than 165 grains in weight unless you want to get a little devil may care attitude about peak average working pressures. In a bolt action rifle you can warm a .308 somewhat. In gas operated autoloading action its gonna have to be a bit milder for product liability concerns.
@tosainu115 күн бұрын
Not impressive compared to the 2.6x-2.7 expansion and 97-98% weight retention you got with the Federal Fusions Mason…
@masonoutdoors_masonleather15 күн бұрын
It’s a very different bullet, neither designed nor intended to perform like a bonded soft point. I think these performed extremely well for what they are and are intended to do.
@scottythebody081115 күн бұрын
There are no losers here. They all did great. Thanks for posting.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
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@Hock3y24k15 күн бұрын
wont ever touch rem ammo again, only ammo I've had multiple rounds fail to fire in multiple firearms.
@craigromack615615 күн бұрын
I won't touch any remington corelokt ammo. I had a bad batch of 30-06 with about 50% of the cases dented. 1 case was damaged so bad that it wouldn't chamber. Poor quality control. Not during the pandemic
@chrisgabbert65815 күн бұрын
What is twist on the 22” barrel ?
@BrokenBarBox14 күн бұрын
Probably the same as everyone else’s, 1-10”
@chrisgabbert65814 күн бұрын
@@BrokenBarBox no there’s 1:10 1:11 1:12 true most new rifle are 1:10 cause there short barrel.
@BrokenBarBox14 күн бұрын
@@chrisgabbert658 I just looked at Rugers website. They use 1-10”
@duckwacker872015 күн бұрын
24" min. I use a 26".
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
And statistically almost every current production 308Win has a 22” or shorter barrel.
@Whiskey__Jackk15 күн бұрын
Isn't this a Hornady SST with a green tip?
@powerbagle15 күн бұрын
The new copper tipped look like CX also.
@Whiskey__Jackk15 күн бұрын
@@powerbagle Oh no kidding? Hadn't seen one one
@minerblue964114 күн бұрын
Poor showing for the 180g bullet.
@duckwacker872015 күн бұрын
Terrible velocity for all of them
@CARLPHILLY15 күн бұрын
Not trying to be a smart Alec, but the Remington Core-Lokt is not a cup and core bullet hence the name Core-Lokt.
@NCWoodlandRoamer15 күн бұрын
It is a cup and core bullet, it is not bonded. They use a mechanical lock to supposedly hold the bullet together with the shape of the jacket. Hornady Interlock is also a cup and core bullet that had a small ring in the jacket that is supposed to hold it together.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Congratulations on not knowing what you’re talking about.
@NCWoodlandRoamer14 күн бұрын
@@masonoutdoors_masonleather 😂😂
@BrokenBarBox14 күн бұрын
Don’t worry….no one is going to associate the word ‘smart’ with you….promise!
@CARLPHILLY14 күн бұрын
@@BrokenBarBox I bet you get associated with A-hole quite often, don’t you.
@brandoncarey232915 күн бұрын
The velocities are weak.
@BrokenBarBox14 күн бұрын
I don’t think a 180 pound deer will be able to tell the difference…
@Longtrailside15 күн бұрын
150s should be going around 2950 for box ammo. Getting tired of ammo companys watering down their ammo to make better profits. They used to call them reduced recoil ammo, now its standard ammo for them.
@user-sp9hy8tq4j15 күн бұрын
The sd and es of all the weight bullets are garbage!! You can’t consistently hit targets at range with that much spread and deviation!
@melonrain686215 күн бұрын
But he put all three of the 180’s pretty close together.
@masonoutdoors_masonleather14 күн бұрын
Who cares, these are hunting loads and the overwhelming majority of deer and other medium game are shot under 100 yards.