30k in the first three months with lasers. Fiber laser and CO2 laser

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Today I'm talking about why I keep getting more lasers and what I've been doing to build that part of my business. We go over the numbers and everything in between.
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[@nikittyworkshop]

Thanks for all the info you continue to provide. You give us all the details with numbers to back it.

[@ttms]

Glad to help

[@Paintballlive]

Congratulations! I am hoping to get started at the end of the year.

[@TekkersMan]

Love your content! I would be so grateful if you showed us how you line things up on flat items (jigs)

[@AKIL.j.Lawson]

take the ring off man, and get it resized.

[@Krakenh2o]

Thank you!

[@hacodalabel]

Thanks for the details. Always appreciate how much you share. How do I get CAM to edit videos for me????

[@LogieJames]

Great stuff as usual. Though I'm based in the UK your videos serve as a wonderful inspiration to me and my (tiny) print business... only issue is making me want to spend on more equipment :P! But no, seriously, thank you so much for your vids they are really great.

[@ttms]

I have a problem with wanting to spend more money too. It's a bad. I need to start an equipment anonymous group.

[@LogieJames]

@@ttms if you do, please sign me up.. My name is Logan James and I'm an equipment-a-holic X_X...

[@BGIS2000]

My friend is a GPR concerete scanner, he only has one small scanner to go work sites in local, he find clients online and most of his clients reliable once he hooked them. He said if he works full day he make easly $1200 per day, no hustling. I cannot imagine if he works 5 days per week... with that $30K machine. I am thinking of doing engraving and fiber laser but i have watched so many videos, they all fun stuff however spending money never ends but also looking for clients, machine have problems, place issue, rent for place... what is left to you? 🤔 so much hustling and i see him working late nights man come on $30K how many hours of work for a day lets be honest.

[@MaximusPham]

wow 3 month ROI is awesome!

[@flipswhilebroke]

That makes me excited! I bought a little 10w laser to start learning on. I'm hoping I can learn it quick and start making some awesome stuff. Do you get most of your laser business from local customers?

[@ttms]

Most of the orders are local.

[@mohsinarif2659]

@@ttms how do you advertise?

[@blueghost4121]

My issue is space. I converted my garage into a sign shop and i have an HP L570. We are growing but im too chicken to pay for overhead cost. Thinking about expanding my garage.

[@unicaaiminakuchi3889]

How long did it take you to receive the laser from Garen? did you use the air or sea freight?

[@AnythingIsInteresting]

Not at all talking trash here but- you make tons of money working on pens and yet you can "never have pens around here." I spit up my coffee when I heard that. Congrats on the success!!

[@rachellegodin3804]

for someone starting off in the engraving business wanting to do jewelry, wood, stainless....what would you recommend

[@perrywettgen5555]

Can I ask the biggest question I have been wondering! Where do you get your pens from if I may know that secret?

[@ttms]

I sell them at bulklaser.com

[@babastrading636]

Great video, where did you buy the rotary bed for the pen engraving

[@ttms]

I purchased it with my laser.

[@chrissmith841]

Hello, can i ask how you market your business locally? Thank you

[@pauladams9313]

Thanks for the video. Do you think the market is overcrowded with ppl providing engraving services? What do you think is a good place for ppl to get started providing services?

[@ttms]

I personally don't. There are many different things you can engrave/cut and it's just a matter of finding what works for you.

[@ryankawash2847]

how do you advertise your laser business?

[@colez1597]

Thankyou for your channel! What brand are the fiber lasers? And what is that cylindrical rotary table called?

[@scottbuxton6917]

Congratulations on the lasers! Quick question: you spent ~$30k on the setup, and made $30k. Is the $30k gross sales or net profit?

[@ttms]

That's gross. But the spend included all the inventory that I engraved, and everything I still have. The only thing that was additional was the labor to run the machine which has maybe been a thousand.

[@georgegeorge899]

Now I got a serious problem : Should I get a 2500euro CO2 laser or Fiber laser ? I just got the Laserpecker 2 and I love it ! So easy to work with...

[@ttms]

Fiber!

[@georgegeorge899]

@@ttms thank you ! Best regards from Germany ! 👍

[@babastrading636]

Can you recommend a good supplier for the Pens

[@ttms]

bulklaser.com

[@pauladams9313]

Also, are there laser machine brands you recommend (or ones you recommend against)?

[@ttms]

If you want a gantry, the omtech is a good choice but it does take some work to get going. For fiber or other galvo lasers, I highly recommend Garen. He's be awesome to work with.

[@pauladams9313]

@@ttms , thanks for the response. I think I'd prefer the galvo design -- faster, smaller footprint. Forgive me, I don't use WhatsApp -- is Garen located in the USA? Is there another way to contact him?

[@ttms]

@@pauladams9313 they're a direct manufacturer in china. Here is his email - [e-mail]

[@pauladams9313]

@@ttms , oh, I see. Thanks. So you haven't had any troubles (with the hardware or software) with the Chinese machines? I've read other articles saying they can be OK, but often the interface isn't as good as some of those created in the USA. Obviously, there's a large price-difference -- I think a non-Chinese MOPA fiber laser costs in the $10-15k range.

[@ttms]

I had one issue with the red dot and they sent me the part and showed me how to fix it. You can get a basic galvo for $1500+ and a mopa around $5-6k depending on specs. Most run ezcad but you can also use lightburn now. Ezcad has been just fine for me. I have four machines from Garen. I could probably have one US supported machine. I intentionally say supported because the laser sources are only made by a few companies.

[@svldvc]

please get rid of that unbearable "humm" noise from your video. Super easy to do in the post. Just watch a youtube tutorial

[@TheHelicapt]

How the heck are you getting all this business??

[@niceguydmm]

Nobody is. Everyone has a machine today.

[@AhmedAlaa-vt5fu]

Whats the profit on a pen

[@ttms]

Depends on what I sell them for.

[@pradeepkaka88]

YDFLP-E-60-M7-M-R Can we buy this?

[@ttms]

I don't know what that means.

[@jonathansatcher6733]

I always have red flags whenever someone says message them ob whatsapp 🙄 mmm

[@ttms]

I did too, but most of the world communicates with it. It's just not as common in the US. I have always paid through Alibaba. Never had an issue.

[@rstamp]

hi, can i engrave rubber on fiber laser ?, for stamp making.

[@ttms]

I've never tried it. I know you can on a co2. I'll see if I can order a sheet and make a video about it.

[@miketheprintman]

3 months is pretty good for an ROI. Seems like you're starting a nice little niche business right now. I think your biggest problem is going to be the inventory, because that can be pretty expensive to buy all the supplies up front. And you kind of have to since you're going to get it from China. People want things right now, so you have to keep enough inventory on hand to take care of any orders.

[@ttms]

Having the inventory is key. I win a bunch of orders because I can do it now. It's helpful but expensive.

[@niceguydmm]

Its videos like these showing made 30K in a few months that causes people to jump on thinking they can get rich. They can't everyone owns one now. Only person getting money is the KZbinr trying to get views and likes. Everyone making get rich videos!! Its not that simple folks!! Thats why you see lots of these machines for sale on marketplace. Welders, Lasers, etc cheap once people find out it was a waste of money! All these KZbin people are trying to earn money with views and its ruining it for them and everyone!

[@ttms]

I don't share your opinion, and that's ok. I do agree that people jump in too early, even myself. That's usually the best way to learn. I've spent hundreds and thousands of dollars on things for them to only be a waste of time and money. At the same time, they were a great learning experience. As for my making money as a "KZbinr". Yes, I do make some. I make more in a single day running my business than I do the entire month from KZbin. I don't share because of the "KZbin money". If that was my motivation I would have stopped making videos a long time ago.

[@niceguydmm]

​@@ttms Your channel is great! Didn't mean anything negative!

[@rjds1800]

No, no you didn’t

[@gsixzero]

Dammit. I came here to post the same thing.

[@ouroboros5378]

Yo pensé lo mismo jaja

[@brianbassett4379]

Congrats! Does that mean you're going to stop begging online now?

[@GDS-LTD]

ROI seems to add up, but here is what I wonder. You seem to be in a good spot of to be considering this. Shopfront. Your sales channels are online, what do you think on offliners? Cashier, register, makeup for the frontshop etc?

[@ttms]

Almost all my orders are local. I'm trying to change that with pens, but I'm doing two 48 piece tumbler orders today. Both are local companies.

[@vkjnrokis]

I have a lasers, from november i almost doing stuff only with them for christmas on my shop: keychains, thumblers,usb, etc etc...

[@GDS-LTD]

@@ttms Local =/= over the counter sale though.