350 Legend Federal PowerShok 180gr Ballistics Gel Ammo Test

[@masonleather_outdoors]

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[@davidgarrett5242]

Hey brother your leather website is down I'm trying to see what your leather buttstock quiver for a marlin 45-70 guide gun

[@harrypeterson9287]

I mean, what if you had an elk, 3 deer and a squirrel lined up perfectly? This round has you covered!

[@masonleather_outdoors]

Hat trick

[@FG-qh7qx]

Lmao a squirrel. Lol....

[@GregKleinschmidt]

Last season I took two deer with this load and same rifle. A fork horn buck and a doe. The range was 55 yards for both. Both were shot once through both lungs standing broadside. The buck ran 20 yards, stopped, staggered and dropped dead. The doe ran 75-80 yards, stopped, stood for 15 seconds and dropped dead. No bullets were recovered. The next time I take this gun hunting I think I will try the Hornady whitetail load as I have some of those too.

[@Papawsaurus]

I appreciate and love that you save me money.

[@masonleather_outdoors]

Glad to be of service, thanks for watching! Please share the video, it’s a big help!

[@mr.mr.3301]

You know I love federal in general.

[@Magnum_Express]

I can see a practical use for these rounds. Bear defense. If you need a round that will go thru a grizzly, it should do the job.

[@michaelgutierrez4083]

You're gonna need expansion on a grizzly. No expansion =small wound channel. Just gonna piss off the grizzly. Nobody wants a pissed off, wounded grizzly coming at them. 😂

[@Magnum_Express]

@@michaelgutierrez4083 . usually people advocate against an expanding bullet on a grizzly for several reasons. 1. non expanding bullets usually push a straight path thru something. meaning they don't get deflected by heavy bone, and can actually reach the vitals. something that an expanding bullet could fail to do. 2. in and out means more holes for the bear to leak from, and expire faster. 3. typically in a situation you need to fire at a grizzly, youre going to get a frontal shot. aiming for the head being your best bet, but even if you miss, its nice to know your bullet will keep on driving thru, possibly hitting a lung, heart, liver, shoulder, hip, etc. something to slow it down. giving you maybe a chance to put another round in it.

[@Mike-xi4zt]

Perfect texas heart shot ammo.

[@FG-qh7qx]

Perhaps the 350 legend isnt a medium game cartridge at all but a dangerous game cartridge.

[@edwardjames1369]

Shot a buck this afternoon visibly hit @ 45yds no blood and gone. Looked for 2 hours. Using this exact ammo in a XPR

[@garylaw1483]

I took a small Buck at 75 yards through both shoulders it did really mean damage along the way & only found a small fragment of the bullet. I was shocked it did not knock him down at that range or offer overly large blood trails but fell in about 30 yards

[@williamgaines9784]

The upside when I bought those for group testing, was they were le$$ than their NonTypical. From what I could see the bullets were the same. The grouped about the same as Hornady 170s and Win 180s. My only thought about the stiffness of the nose jacket was to increase reliabilty in ARs. Have not tested any of the 3 on game, but likely will at some point. Maybe, if I start getting groups of hogs, I can line a few up.👌

[@cavemanjeff4251]

Actually, I like the extra penetration of this load. There are plenty of lighter constructed deer loads available, some people like me want a load like this for tougher game at close range without having to go to a long barrelled heavy recoilling expensive magnum. Love this test, thank you.

[@DanielRifleman-pb9bd]

Something I have done to catch over penetrating bullets is to use a standard size hand towel folded over once and draped over the last media I'm using. The towel usually catches the exiting bullet and is flung several feet away but with the bullet in the folds. It works for me most of the time. Try it and see if this works for you. I love your videos, keep them coming!

[@richardlucas2155]

Good one mason I like what you said they just keep going 😅

[@chopsddy3]

I would really like to see the 350 Legend tested with soft lead cast bullets. They may expand more , even at a lower velocity. I'm betting a soft lead "brick" thrown out of that carbine would be an extremely effective woods gun.

[@bestestusername]

If you were hunting game with a thick hide and big bones this would be ok as it would help with expansion but thinner skinned or smaller game this could be wasted. I am liking the 350 the more of these I see!

[@mot0rhe4d40]

Glad I am not sitting on any of those. Preciate the data brother 👍

[@masonleather_outdoors]

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[@mogulrider]

well that's weird. I've dropped 2 bucks with it. hmm might have to move to a 160ish. They didn't go 40yds. heart shots with exit wounds and gushers.

[@Oban9]

Not sure if I’m extremely impressed or disappointed. Going to assume little to none on expansion.

[@masonleather_outdoors]

It’s not supposed to be nor marketed as a solid, to me it’s more of a failure than a success as per what it should do. These 180 grain soft points are too heavy and/or not soft enough for 350 Legend velocities.

[@Manbunmen65]

450 bushmaster

[@megastick9324]

If I lived in a straight wall state I’d have a 350L and a 460 BH. I’m in a rifle friendly state so 357, 44mag, 30-30 ,45-70 has me covered in CF lever guns. I just can’t justify adding the new rounds to my expenses. But man it’s tempting. I want them all.

[@BradLivingston-hn7hp]

I really enjoy your videos, but if your not required to by state law these straight wall cartridges are not great

[@jasonacosta3860]

I dont think its pushing 180 grains fast enough to expand. Might be better with 150 grains at higher velocities or 180 grain hollow points

[@furmanmackey5479]

Federal has long been one of my favorite "over the counter" ammo producers. In the case of their .350 Legend, as tested in this video, I'd be a bit leery of hunting a soft skinned critter like a white tail simply because of the very strong possibility of pass through with no expansion. Having experienced the exact same thing happening with "plastic tipped" Hornady ammo, I'd just as soon run the risk of getting caught, and going to jail for, hunting with FMJ ammo.....Since I'm way too old to be going to jail, the ammo you tested will NOT be an option should I find myself buying a rifle chambered in .350 Legend. I have a feeling that the .350 would be in its "happy zone" with bullets weighing around 150grn for deer with "heavy" 160-165grn bullets being well suited for large hogs or MAYBE even black bears when fired out of 20in barrels. In the meantime, I'll just stick with my trusty old "JM" Marlin 336 in .35 Remington and its big brother in .444 Marlin launching 200grn JSP and 265grn JSP bullets respectively.

[@mrtcward]

The Hornady 165 flex tip or the Win 150 grain Deer Season is a much better choice.

[@chemex9968]

Let's not look past the 350 legend. I'll take it.

[@tcburgess2939]

Makes ya wonder if these are the same Bullet as the Winchester 180 PowerPoint.

[@glennllewellyn7369]

Nice. That's about 5.3 kangaroos!

[@masonleather_outdoors]

Indeed

[@jeremywilson15147]

Should be marketed as a bear defense load

[@tubbyshvfd9110]

Love the wide range of calibers you test. I do have a question though. Do you ever revisit and test loads more in depth ? Reason I ask is you give a lot of data from what you do

[@chriswigington1572]

I wouldn’t really expect this from federal ammo!.

[@WayStedYou]

looks like federal forgot to test in gel

[@orpheus280]

180gr seems just a little too heavy for the .350L. 160gr has done some spectacular work from what I've seen, so I'm not sure why manufacturers aren't gravitating more towards that.

[@tosainu1]

The first bad Federal load you’ve tested not a bad showing overall for Federal I’d say

[@masonleather_outdoors]

180 grains is too heavy for the 350L’s velocities, at least without re-engineering the bullets

[@jasonjackson4302]

Mason, I love your videos, very informative. Be advised, brother, these straight wall cartridges are not expanding like they should. Hunters want fast kills with large wound channels, with decent pass through. I know from your tests that you understand this. Just because folks don't want to clean muzzeloaders anymore doesn't mean these new straight walls are better. A 240 grain XTP out of my muzzeloader is hands down a better choice for quick kills. I was very disappointed in my 45/70 325 grain FTX load out of my Henry. Not all, but most of these new straight wall bullets, exhibit characteristics very much like FMJ's. Keep up the good work.

[@HARVIELL1]

That needs a good 180gr cast SWC .

[@bamikefoxtrot9001]

Any plans on testing AAC ammo? I would love to see if the 6.5CM SP is worth a damn in gel.

[@ryanr219]

Can u test the browning 180gr in the 350 legend?

[@timhallas4275]

Cut a cross in the lead tip and try again. Sounds like they are using too hard of a lead compound.

[@flyboiii28]

Have you been able to get the fusion in 350 legend?

[@dp2826]

What is your favorite load for whitetail?

[@Dm87509]

Maybe bear?

[@masonleather_outdoors]

It’d go deep

[@hoffpbass]

I guess that means -- Weight Retention: 0% 😂

[@masonleather_outdoors]

It means weight retention likely approaching 100%

[@gerryjames9720]

So if you used this for anti personnel, it would be better than FMJ, but still need FMJ background awareness. Sounds like a good application for a tipped load?

[@michaeldavid4857]

Mason, energy units are measured in foot "times" pound (lbs), not feet "divided" by pounds. I guess it would be "ft-lbs" rather than "ft/lbs".

[@masonleather_outdoors]

It’s a forward slash as much as it is a division symbol, it’s just punctuation, it’s not a big deal. By your own logic “ft-lbs” could be interpreted as feet minus pounds.

[@timothyperkins6847]

And will penatrate heavy shoulders

[@Dm87509]

8 inches of sand in a cardboard box works good for catching most bullets including riffle cals

[@mot0rhe4d40]

I hear you. Yet, if those pills were doing what they are supposed to? It shouldn't be needed.

[@masonleather_outdoors]

I bet it does, however it doesn’t remotely simulate living tissue

[@karlnash7105]

This might be a bit heavy for my AR Pistol. I'm going lighter with something around 150gr and hollow points. Any opinions welcome. 😊

[@michaellane4003]

No good! They just pencil through. You don't want that. You need expansion. 😊

[@jasonjackson4302]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@approachingtarget.4503]

I don't get it. A 180gr .30 caliber will average 23". A slower,bigger diameter bullet doesn't open within 48"?

[@masonleather_outdoors]

These are going much, much slower than a 180gr 30-06 or 308

[@BottomDollarOutdoors]

objects exert equal and opposite forces on each other. the impact is what drives the tip back and causes expansion. let this same bullet hit gel at 2000 fps or faster, you'd see a huge difference. I've noticed a difference with my .350L when shooting deer inside of 70 yards vs over 70. it doesn't seem to keep that "hammer" effect as well further out. Which I know sounds like a no-brainer, but within 100 yards, the difference should not be as noticeable as it is. Even shooting ballistic tips, I do not trust the .350L out past 125 yards. However, in the thick woods, its a beast.

[@BottomDollarOutdoors]

@@masonleather_outdoors If you had shot the blocks at 50 yards, while the velocities were still around 2000fps, I wonder if you could get some expansion and catch it. worth a try one day.

[@upperroomtoo]

If the bullet can't expand and stop at 1875 fps it is an absolute failure of design.

[@masonleather_outdoors]

Based on all my testing, 180 grains, the bullets therein and the velocities achieved with 350 Legend don’t mix. 350L is ideal with 140-160 grainers.

[@upperroomtoo]

@@masonleather_outdoors the 180 XTP is my favorite deer bullet for our .357 Maxi Handi Rifle. With Lil'Gun powder I get about 2200 at the muzzle and the expansion and penetration in milk jugs @100yd is impressive. I have 6 kids and they have put a lot of deer in the freezer over the years with that load. I will send you some to test if you have a 357 Max rifle.

[@jbierling]

@@masonleather_outdoors noticed your other test of Federal 350L 180gr also had very deep penetration. I haven't tested this load, but I have the other and FWIW I got about half the penetration in calibrated organic gel.

[@clevertonramos2063]

🤝🫡🇺🇸

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Not great. Thank you.