In my opinion if your deer hunting you need to use the ammo that gives you the best cold bore group because realistically you only going to get one or 2 shots off.
@phild98132 жыл бұрын
I agree, but only to the degree that the bullet of the winner has the correct construction for the intended use. If I were elk hunting, for example, I’d probably run the all copper rounds that had the “worst” group. Still plenty good for hunting at the ranges intended for the 350.
@Rickkari72 жыл бұрын
@@phild9813 I believe your right. I shot some 6.5 Grendel Fort Scott TUI copper rounds and if I recall right, the first shot on cold bore was bullseys, but the group went south after that. I wanted to use it for white tail but blew it off. Your comment makes sense though. Probably the ammo I should use. I'll have to revisit it. Thanks for the comment. Definitely a good hunting round as far as killability.
@scotteger6271 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickkari7 you just have to do a lot of cold bore testing, which takes time and patience. Have to do it in similar conditions to your hunt as well. Let the bore fully cool, take several guns to the range (so you have something to do while you wait) and put like 5 or 10 of the 1” bullseye stickers on a piece of poster board and shoot one of them at a time until you get through 5 or 10 true cold bore shots. After I do this I move on to shooting 3 round groups in the same fashion. This gives me a very good overall look at how my rifle is going to perform in the field. I don’t usually even take a second shot in the field so it’s unlikely I’d ever shoot 3, but it shows me how the group is going to open up.
@redrhinooutdoors Жыл бұрын
Highly agree
@jonquirk95828 ай бұрын
Highly agree. That's why i use the deer season xps, they're 1moa or less every time out of my gun.
@garycox97112 жыл бұрын
For 30yrs Here on Mo+Arks Line My Savage 110 243. Has Kept Tha Family In Food. At 64yrs Now. Savage Axis 2 Ac trigger. 350 Legend. 18in Bl. Hornady + Winchester 150gr Tipped Has. Shown Awesome. Group's An. Knockdown. Power. Out 250yds. Thank you For Ya Video's
@davidrataj78342 жыл бұрын
Just can't go wrong with a ruger. Great video been thinking about a 350 you made have just sealed the deal on me getting one
@Jake-nz3nl2 жыл бұрын
The tri-box view showing you shooting, the target, and the ammo is excellent. Please keep doing that
@donl49142 жыл бұрын
Took my 350 out last weekend, AR15 platform makes this a real shooter. After some research and Ron's input with OG's Danger Show, I pulled the trigger and bought the BCA 350 Legend Rear charge 20" Stainless Heavy. After sighting it in. THIS IS A BEAST!!! MOA with the Federal 180 gr. I'm impressed with this and found my new Hog Hunting Rifle!!! Just need one more thing, a Thermal Scope to complement it. Thanks for the info. The WIN 145 Target ammo is ok for plinking. Just not much else. Have not tried the rest of the ammo yet, but think I found my best combo. 50 yards same hole with ease. 100 yards it's amazing and can't wait to go hog hunting.
@donnysanner3422 жыл бұрын
Nice video hoss , and no doubt expensive. I would love to see the 255 grain loads shot into ballistic gel....I wonder how they will perform going so slow...also would like to see the browning "rapid expansion" to see how it performs. Again thanks for the great video
@thomasallen38182 жыл бұрын
The Federal NonTypical White Tail did amazing, but there were several that did pretty good. Shouldn’t have to have a warm barrel to do well.
@michiganmafiamx5543 Жыл бұрын
That looked like the best group to me.
@a.b.k19832 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the content! A lot of people don’t like the 350 legend but us fellas from places like Ohio who want to take our kids hunting, this cartridge is amazing.
@lessforloans2 жыл бұрын
Why’s it so good for kids?
@a.b.k19832 жыл бұрын
@@lessforloans its extremely mild recoil.
@coupe50h2 жыл бұрын
I live in tx and got an axis .350 just for kicks, was in my price range. Now I want to shoot it all the time at steel. Kicks like a .223, hits like 30-30.
@sog46462 жыл бұрын
Being from Ohio, and having shot deer with a .350 legend, bullet selection needs to be a MAJOR CONCERN. The 170 grain bullets that i've shot deer with didn't expand very well, and left poor blood trails.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Taking my son with the 350 next week
@AllAboutSurvival2 жыл бұрын
Nice! This gonna be exciting! You are an impressive shooter
@danielcurtis87462 жыл бұрын
Federal non typical does great in just about everything I have. Great video as always
@JeRKII2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making all these informative video's get to see this stuff and gives some of us to look forward to at the end of the day
@Jusader2 жыл бұрын
Love 350, and 22-250 just about equally. I got my last deer with my 350, so I'm looking forward to it this year -- I didn't even think about suppressed 350. I got one of those shusher cans on the way, seems real fun!
@joshp83952 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the American whitetail and Winchester. Always had great luck with with both.
@apostolicoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
THAT right there was a REALLY fun video!!!
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@stephaniebolding37412 жыл бұрын
This is about to be a really fun video 👍👍
@freedj272 жыл бұрын
Looks like your rifle likes its rounds in the 180 grain range best. Good shooting.
@jimhazelwood45292 жыл бұрын
I certainly appreciate everyone and everything used in your videos. Thank All involved.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jim
@grandpabob32862 жыл бұрын
Good shooting , I might have to check into that one , getting tired of the 30-06 recoil
@Jonster-yd9bb6 ай бұрын
Exact same for this 68 yr old, used the '06 since age 14 time to give the old shoulder a break (figuratively)
@garypollard97702 жыл бұрын
I would have to say the Federal 180 grain was the winner there! 3 shots in the same hole is really impressive! The Bear creek stuff you will have to count all 8 shots of that! We do appreciate this video tho because I know it took some change and work to make it happen!
@stevekitchensgospelguitari3280Ай бұрын
@@garypollard9770 my scout 350 legen was on paper at 50 yard but wasn’t on paper at 100 what is wrong
@highbrassoutdoors4182 жыл бұрын
love it I use my 350 legend the most for of my deer hunt it's just super reliable.
@chrissewell16082 жыл бұрын
Hey Who-Tee! I'd like to see a .350 Legend, AR-15 vs. The Ruger - Bolt Action, grouping video. And then another round, with the suppressor on each. And finally, a round up comparison, of how well they all shot. Same ammo as this video, as a base line comparison.
@danieleversman32772 жыл бұрын
Hey man great video! I just picked up my very own 350 Winchester xpr today so I’m looking forward to seeing what flavor it likes! This video just got me more excited to get to the range.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@brsmith28012 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love my go wild 350, it's a tack driver.
@whatsup24_72 жыл бұрын
I have a AR pistol in 350legend and it's one of my truck/home defense guns. I love this caliber. I keep it filled with Federal because they always have the best grouping.
@timberlark32 Жыл бұрын
Mentioned you and backfire today in my Cva cascade purchase. Hopefully it helps you and him both out. I’ve been obsessed and have lost lots of sleep watching y’all’s videos lol
@WHOTEEWHO Жыл бұрын
HUGE CVA Cascade fan!
@raleighthomas30792 жыл бұрын
Great video Adam. The .350 seems like a great option for low recoil needs, as well as those limited by law for deer use. From what I have seen and heard, some of the .350 rounds don’t expand well. A ballistic gel test run with an assortment of ammo would REALLY be appreciated by those trying to judge which ammo would be most effective for hunting. A 1/2” difference in groups is meaningless if the boolots just zip right thru resulting in wounded and lost game. Thanks for your hard and non-biased work!
@jameseroh65442 жыл бұрын
Another fine science lesson in kenetic energy! I Have a Ruger American Ranch Rifle and a Savage Axis 2 in 350 Legend. Would like to find a 350 Legend pistol. Preferably the Smith & Wesson X Frame 7 shot.
@mrmatt72102 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. The last 350 Legend bullet test I viewed showed very little expansion with the tested ammo. I would be curious if this was representative to other brands of ammunition or not.
@mrmatt72102 жыл бұрын
@Mogul Rider I appreciate your reply. To be clear, did you recover the bullets from the game you shot, or are you basing your opinion on the damage noticed . I've shot many a deer with a 45-70 solid lead cast bullets and .50cal blackpowder rifles shooting conical lead maxiballs and the wounds are very substantial, but the bullets may barely expand at all.
@aaronoutdoors70132 жыл бұрын
Thanks .where was the core lokt ?
@WayStedYou2 жыл бұрын
Remington dont make anything for 350 legend
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Remington doesn't load 350 legend yet
@erichester90762 жыл бұрын
Love your videos I have two 350 Legends and I really like this caliber, we've killed 4 deer with it in 2 years using the Winchester 150 gr. XP this bullet expands rapidly and doesn't exit most of the time but seems to do a good job on deer, I'm going to switch over to the Winchester 160 gr Power Max Bonded round or the Barnes 170 gr. all copper bullet to hopefully get great expansion and an exit on deer size game. Thanks you for all the work that you do making these videos
@dennisbrock53762 жыл бұрын
That was a really good video!! 👍 I would like to see jello test between 150 ballistic tip and 180 fed and Winchester.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Thanks for watching Dennis
@waynecastleman13632 жыл бұрын
Now I wouldn't mind a 350 Legend in a S&W . Hunting Whitetail with a rig like that just gets a feller into good dreams. Thanks for the great video. Who Tee Who 🎃👹👏
@rotisseriebear53942 жыл бұрын
I'm not sold on 350 legend, but that was a really fun video.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate you watching
@thomasoliver50952 жыл бұрын
Next-Clay blocks,water filled plastic milk cartons-then stacked paper plates.Also ballastic gel blocks.
@Sacrifice162 жыл бұрын
You should do a video of you cleaning/showcasing everything you keep in the office/room you record in. I’d be interested to see your organization of everything as well as how you store your firearms
@nojoeoutdoors46232 жыл бұрын
My CVA Scout likes the American Whitetail. My son shot is deer with it and it went through both shoulders and still exited. Pretty impressive
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Love the cva scouts
@TheWVgoodguy225 ай бұрын
That was a fun and interesting video. I am sure that you had a blast 💥 making it. I told my brother that if I were to buy his 350 L that I would want to do a similar test, maybe with half the options to save money 💵. lol 😆 He has Deer 🦌 Season XP and the white box 📦 plinking ammo. I wish folks would come out with more 400 Legend ammo. Only have one on the shelf and two coming out soon
@garrettforchrist27002 жыл бұрын
Excellent shooting! That Federal non typical seemed pretty good, I thought!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲
@techfixr20122 жыл бұрын
Impressive results!
@timshelley86352 жыл бұрын
Good shooting! They all grouped well
@gregritchie9375 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I am a fan of the 35 caliber, having cut my teeth on the 35 Remington, and it’s still my favorite deer/pig/black bear cartridge today. I quickly learned that Sectional Density is important for hunting bullets. And that a SD of 200 is the accepted minimum for medium game such as whitetail deer, pig, and black bear. The 150 grain 35 Remington had the reputation of being a poor performer, something I learned the hard way. With the 200 grain bullet the 35 Remington became a one shot stop cartridge. A SD of 200 is considered the accepted minimum for deer sized game. It takes a 180 grains to equal that with a 35 caliber bullet. I would like to see penetration tests with the bullets you tested, specifically the 150 grain bullets as they are touted as the best hunting bullets for the 350 Legend. Just curious what makes the 150 grain bullets great for deer in the 350 Legend while the same weight bullet was not so great on deer in the 35 Remington? Enjoyed your video and subscribed!
@fowllab2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how the new Winchester Copper Impact would do.? I agree with the clay and water jugs test.
@sammartinez80842 жыл бұрын
Great show my friend and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Sam
@pete6199 Жыл бұрын
Now that was an ammo test. Great job WTW. Just bought a 350 legend in an AR. Hope it performs as wall as your test went...
@WHOTEEWHO Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@PassivePortfolios2 жыл бұрын
The Winchester and Federal 180 grain ammo have top notch accuracy. The 180s group better than the lighter weight bullets. Widely available and at a reasonable price too.
@PassivePortfolios2 жыл бұрын
150 meters is 164 yards so the 350 should be OK. It's good up to 200 yards or 183 meters.
@francisbarbeau18622 жыл бұрын
I am still waiting for the head to head of 350 legend and 35 Remington!!!
@markcostello72382 жыл бұрын
Who Tee, i have a CVA Cascade in 350 Legend and sighted it in with HSM 170 grain ammo and it shot great ! Check it out when you can.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@billreed9479 Жыл бұрын
I got the same gun as you but no suppressors, my Ruger American Ranch 350 legend love the walmart winchester 150 ballistic black tip 100 5 shot group 3/4 inch group i really like those Ruger American Ranch i own 4 of them 6.5 grendal, 7.62x39, 300 blackout & the 350 legend, there all great shooters & shoot sub 1moa
@markruby391622 күн бұрын
I’ve shot all of these pretty much in gel and most are pretty terrible hunting rounds, Barnes is the best I’ve found, and then the power max bonded is next best I’ve found. Most barely leave a wound cavity, and Barnes and power max bonded both opened really well and and both start the expansion about an inch in. Bear creek ballistic also does very well, and has hot rounds but didn’t open quite as well as the other two
@davedrake58092 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the info. I can’t wait to take a 🦌 with my .350 scout. I’m taking my son in-law for his first hunt this year and he’ll be using it too.
@raymondmoore18362 жыл бұрын
There is some of the super suppressed at scheels Here in iowa. I have been looking for 160gr federal fusion, but can't find any anywhere.
@donlintor2 жыл бұрын
Last year you convinced me to get a 350. 2 deer 1 coyote. My wife also took her first deer with it. Thanks for the recommendation and the for the ammo test.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@bradbo32 жыл бұрын
have the same gun...and it loves the Winchester Super X...and the Browning BXR....but it also shoots the win and browning FMJ rounds just as good...but higher cause they are lighter weight. My son has taken several deer with my gun....i havent even used it hunting yet.
@jakeoutdoors96002 жыл бұрын
Outdoorlimited has the 350 Super Supressed for $24.99 per box plus shipping. I found a few cheaper but Outdoorlimited has a decent amount of reviews.
@sambarnard96282 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Completely honest.
@WHOTEEWHO2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you watching
@TheTonygong2 жыл бұрын
You're a good friend Paul!
@1Whitetail2 жыл бұрын
Good job on getting that many different brands of ammo to test. For hunting I'd pass on the FMJ ones and would go with a cold barrel, thats what we have in the woods. One shot kills. Like I said good video.
@text-52802 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, Expect more videos soon... Send a direct message⬆️⬆️ I have something special for you🎁
@Mark-uq9km2 жыл бұрын
I use the Winchester 180's. I get very good groups at 100 yds. It's crazy how the different ammo shoots at different points out of the same rifle. Hunters, don't use the FMJ's for hunting.
@stephaniebolding37412 жыл бұрын
I'm going for the federal power Shok and Winchester xp
@bkpugsley2 жыл бұрын
My Scout and XPR both shoot the Deer Season XPs very well and I have also been happy with the performance of that round on deer. IF you could get some Deer Season XP Copper Impact and do an accuracy and water jug test of the original XP vs the new copper XP, that would be interesting.
@jackvaniciaadams40892 жыл бұрын
Ok. Adam..purchased the ,,Ruger American ,22,",brl. Camo ,350 legend for the wife. Really appreciate the videos.. I have a 30 ar I've never seen anyone review it. I have a bunch of ammo. Put it up against the 350 legend. Would be neat. Thanks again for the videos.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
30 ar?
@jackvaniciaadams40892 жыл бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO Yep. That's what most people's reaction is. Ron Spoomer actually knows about it. I think you would really like it. Remington was the only producer of the ammo. necked down 350 bushmaster to a .308 in an AR 15 platform. Remington/DPMS we're the only producer. Called it an AR 30. Factory 125 accutip ran 2800fps. I reload and get 2876 to 2903 depending on the area of the country. Remington 150 core lokt are deadly on hogs. Fluted 22"barrel I get .82"groups at 100 yards with my reloads and factory. Nice thing is it puts the 150 grain core lokts less than an inch to the left at 100 yards. Just lucky I think. They also produced 125,grain tsx called the hog hammer. My rifle hates them but it's Nicole brass which is good for reloading. Google it. Let me know if you want to review it. I don't live that far away.
@markhatfield16382 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Excellent video.very informative.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Mark
@ronaldwilson35032 жыл бұрын
Top 3 shoot off!!! Cold bore, Chrono and ballistics gel. Those Federal Non typical was mighty tight. Price is a big factor nowadays.
@charlesmorgan18792 жыл бұрын
Nice groups for a smooth bore , good deer cartridge.
@randlerichardson58262 жыл бұрын
Good night everybody and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
@edwardjames13698 күн бұрын
I shot a buck with my XPR 350 Legend 180 federal power shock blue box. 35-40 yards quartering facing me. Shot and the buck ran off clearly hit no blood trail and gone. Looked for 2 hours. Shot the rifle the next day (today) still on target.
@Rickkari72 жыл бұрын
Great shooting, gun and bunch of ammo. All deer slayers except the FMJ here in TN.
@ruckuswethepeep43842 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@markmcenturff84172 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat 3 in one!! I think you found your load.
@michaelclisham879011 ай бұрын
Based on cost and performance I would lean towards the Federal non typical 180. I wonder if I could buy the bullets used in the bear rounds for reloading
@robertrobbins53563 ай бұрын
Would like to see the same test out of CVA scout in350 legend. I hunt public land in south Mississippi and wil be using it for primitive weapons season
@ryand80502 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Mr. whoteewho. Since you read all the comments after deer season will you do a comparison of the cz457 and bergara b14r with good ammo
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Don't have a b14 r. But I have already done pretty extensive ammo tests with both of those
@randallwhite9015Ай бұрын
Bagara STOKE in 350 Ledgen is coming soon. 16.5 inch barrel. Hopefully I can find one. I have one in 300 blackout that does less than an inch at 100 yds.
@sambowz90772 жыл бұрын
That was a really fun Video!
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam
@nicholasbcleghorn80082 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and educational.
@jacobhanks66054 ай бұрын
Hey buddy, I would like to see you review Hornaday black 150gr .350Legend!PLEASE
@TheBarbarianNerd Жыл бұрын
Very helpful.. thanks!
@WHOTEEWHO Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Dwayne78342 жыл бұрын
Good video and shooting. Thanks for the video.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Dwayne
@halfdollar862 жыл бұрын
Looks like a pretty good shooter
@adarshasokansindhya2 жыл бұрын
Want chronograph test with all these loadings... Will you do that wtw...???
@bushinbritishcolumbia69352 жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid bud
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@magnum1591710 ай бұрын
Would like to see what they do in ballistic gel, great video 👍
@justinclenny98842 жыл бұрын
Dunhams in Statesboro Georgia has like 3 boxes of the Winchester suppressed
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@clintonlayne92532 жыл бұрын
Adam the Federal Non Topical is my go to ammo along with Federal Fusion. I haven't found Fusion in 350 Legend. Why hasn't Remington got on board with the 350 Legend?
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Wish they made it
@clintonlayne92532 жыл бұрын
Adam I think they do it's just hard to find. Remington green box is 180 psp. The Federal Fusion in 300 Blackout is good.
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
I 100% know that remington does not make 350 legend yet. Talked to them about it 3 weeks ago. It is in the catalog....but not being made yet
@scotteger6271 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because they made their own version, the rimmed 360 Buckhammer? Just a thought…
@johnharrison8807 Жыл бұрын
What brand and model can do you have on your 350 Legend? I'm looking for one suppressor to cover all my rifle. I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks again for the great videos.
@WHOTEEWHO Жыл бұрын
Banish 46
@chrisaerts64892 жыл бұрын
My Ruger likes the Browning 155 the best. Bought it last year so my ammo was limited.
@khanokash5347 ай бұрын
Currently thinking about using 350 legend for self defense and hunting as a one gun for all type of deal
@jacobhanks66054 ай бұрын
Why is there not any content on these .350 Legend ammo? Hornady Custom 350 legend 165gr FTX AND Hornady Black .350 Legend 150gr SP
@WHOTEEWHO4 ай бұрын
Never seen it
@jacobhanks66054 ай бұрын
@@WHOTEEWHO never seen the ammo before? The BLACK says 2500fps and the CUSTOMS make a crazy explsion on frozen jugs of water. I am undetermine what load to sight in with. You and I have the same rifle so I always appreciate your content and feedback
@ronshaw838410 ай бұрын
Need to try 170 barns in your 350 legend we got 2 deer with them neither one went more than 10 yards
@scottneedham97652 жыл бұрын
👍 got a ruger semi not even sighted in yet just hanging out like a hair on a biscuit lol.
@wdtaut5650 Жыл бұрын
15:02 "Absolutely, probably..."
@1paultv22 Жыл бұрын
I can't get a 'quiet can' in my state, so is it worth getting an 18 to 22-inch barrel or is that 16-inch in the sweet spot of performance?
@JacobMenne11 ай бұрын
Hey guy am wanting to see how the precision one147 hollow points factory rounds for accuracy and grouping at 100 and 200 if possible
@PJ_Perry2 жыл бұрын
Definitely getting a 350 legend upper if it can bag a deer it can get a home intruder. Sounds like a win win 🤣
@chrissewell16082 жыл бұрын
That .35 caliber has a lot more lead & powder, behind it, than any .223!
@PJ_Perry2 жыл бұрын
@@chrissewell1608 the only thing I don't like is Yes I like hunting but I like shooting shit lol 350 legend doesn't have a wide availability of cool ammo ..AP ect ect that I can find even online
@chrissewell16082 жыл бұрын
@@PJ_Perry Well since its hunting ammo, you can find FMJ, lead: flat points, round points, hollow points, and ballistic tips.
@callersvoice9512 Жыл бұрын
Shot a 350 legend for the first time this passed weekend... Now I'm in the market for one. Hahaha!
@definit1on1192 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro for the awesome bud as usual. Took a shit and missed a deer today 😩
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
Oh no!
@allthingsconsidered32112 жыл бұрын
With ur 450 bm, u should do a handload test itd be really cool to see and cheaper than the store. Cuz thoooose are pricey
@allthingsconsidered32112 жыл бұрын
Great video
@WHOTEEWHO2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@12monkey572 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a ballistic gel test at distance. 100, 200, etc.
@sturisa2 жыл бұрын
WTW Impressive shooting and great cartridge! I've heard the 350 Legend has 20% less recoil than a .243 Win. and even better for deer and hogs at under 200 yards. What's your opinion?
@scotteger6271 Жыл бұрын
350 legend has a negligible amount of recoil in a bolt action rifle. The weight of the rifle and bullet weight will change how much recoil the overall setup has, but it’s like shooting a 223. That’s why so many people are saying it’s an excellent cartridge for youth hunters. The diameter of the bullet makes it hit hard, definitely punches well above it’s weight class. The round in hand looks small and diminutive, but hits steel and deer with authority.