#36 Pros and Cons of Buying Land and a screaming fox!

[@randtgorman]

Thanks for the video, Mike. I really appreciate and needed it. I was looking for a video on just this kinda stuff. I am trying to buy land here in East Texas. $20-25K an acre now as of Oct 2022. Since finding your channel I am obsessed with buying my own Camp Morgan and starting a generational homestead. I am excited about getting a tractor and all the implements. A saw mile to use to build my home, and a skid loader just because it can do everything. HA. I know now from watching you all these years How to build an entrance to the property, a road, (using lots of rock of course), and the use of a good burn pile. My wife always ask why I watch your videos so much, I always say "because Mike is a good teacher", and I like to learn new things. Thanks for all you do and share. Looking forward to meeting you all one day. Until then, keep doing what you're doing. Have a Day!

[@pulaski1]

My mother once described the sound a fox makes as being like a seagull be strangled - and to this day, I think that is the best description I ever heard! :)

[@charleskneece3284]

Mike just wanted to say love your channel and have been subscribed for few months. Purchased 22 acres in south central virginia last may for me its a dream come true and your channel has been great help in fact we just purchased an rk 24 last week and i told them they could thank you and they said your sending them a lot of buisness. Keep up the good work i got a lot more to learn. Chuck kneece red oak va.

[@johngritman4840]

Thanks for the video. My beloved Grandpa bought 16 -20 acres probably in 1939 or so. The condition of sale was that it could be subdivided. The township agreed and he ran the public works department until he was 83 - he died in 1986 at age 100. He told me that he sold one lot every 15 years and that paid for taxes, utilities etc. for the next 15 years. I started to maintain the property with him when I was 14 - 60 years ago. "with him" are very important words, those were the most precious moments of my life (until I married and had children). You see, I never worked for him but with him. Like you, he took meticulous care of the open land: 1/4 acre vegetable garden, heritage apple trees, pears and grapes and 250 homing pigeons raised for show and racing. Very fond of the relationship especially when he would pick a pear off the tree, take out his pen knife and share it. The tools, all manual except for the lawnmower, were all manual. No rust, always sharp and rubbed down with linseed with 0000 steel wool twice a year. Never used a pair of gloves! I pray that some day God will bless you with grandchildren to whome you can share the love of the land. It is a precious gift.

[@rickylee3275]

Mike late to the channel and glad I’m going back to view the older videos. Establishes a wonderful connection to your love of the land and you do what you do. Wonderful.😊 only thing is i miss Melissa in the old videos. Glad you have the whole family in the newer videos.

[@ewddy67]

Awesome screaming fox! We just bought 15 acres and are looking forward to all of the hard work as well. We were lucky and found this land that the previous owner had cut the trails and put in the well, underground electric, 2 ponds, septic...so we get to go from there. Love your videos and especially the tractor ones. We have a bx2380. Just got her this spring! Thanks Mike.

[@c.d1704]

I am in western Pa as well. Glad to see a local on here. Awesome land you have, keep the videos coming.

[@albertjackson9236]

Very good information on buying land.

[@kev6216]

watched about 20-30 videos so far and this is the best one.

[@davidb.beasley7359]

Thanks for the video Mike. Having property was a dream of mine and after retirement, I purchased more than needed. I'm at the stage of life now that it would be wise to sell most of it. My children live away and I don't see that they want it, although that was in the plan when I purchased it. It's difficult to maintain now and this brings on headaches. I do enjoy your videos of you riding your tractor through the land. Keep on keeping on!

[@tophat7199]

I watched this video when it came out on the couch one night at my house on 2 acres now we pun a better house on 15 acres and a 10 track what a difference in such short time thank for all the videos

[@russellbowman8051]

Very Very valuable information!! 👊

[@terrycastor8299]

I've wanted some land since my Dad sold our family farm almost 50 yrs ago now. My wife and I discuss it from time to time, but for the most part, she thinks we're too old. I don't know about her, but I'm planning on at least another 30 years. Lol Small acreage is hard to find in these parts (less than 80 acres) and typically in the $12K per acre range if you find it. What do you think? Is buying land a thing only for the young folks?

[@Jeo3-4142]

Thanks Mike. Finally closing on my first piece of land about 30 miles East of Pittsburgh. Looking forward to some tractor/chainsaw/excavator therapy!

[@mikemccrary9346]

Great job I think you’re covered it all I just have one little question how do you get rid of all the bugs here in Wisconsin thy will carry you off

[@lauderdalechad]

You're definitely living my kind of the American dream my friend! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Stuff7164]

Mr. Morgan, First, kudos to you and your wife for making these videos. It is SO nice to see genuine American living captured in this way. My dream has always been to have enough land to plink on. While we currently live in NEPA, it's growing very populated here, where I have been thinking about displacing to the western part of the state. How ironic that I came across your videos tonight! That said, can you recommend any counties/townships out in the western part of the state for my wife and I to begin investigating? We'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

[@snazzyusername]

Right there with you on the guys at Lowes...hahaha. I own next to state property, so I have to deal with people crossing my land to access the state's. I didn't hear you mention easements, but those are biggies too. Good video!

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Yes, Easements, good point

[@frankturrigiano8573]

Very true Mike I couldn't agree more. I live on Long Island and have 20 acres use to enjoy that very much but the ticks have become such a problem. I also own 97 acres in upstate New York and it is beautiful The tick's are really not an issue up there and I can enjoy my property.

[@jeffprewitt7207]

Very interesting and excellent point about mineral rights. One could wake up on day and have an ugly and noisy well pump in their front yard. That is a very real problem here in Louisiana and certainly other states with abundant minerals. Bet in PA you could find a strip mining operation which may be a bit of exaggeration but an awful thought.

[@davec.3198]

Having a property selectively lumbered is a great way to pay off the land AND make trails for free. :-) My family had 250 acres selectively lumbered and made $80k. Total value of the property is about $250k-350k. Lumbering it again for another $30k, 20 years later for pulp wood, so the valuable trees can grow taller and straighter...faster. I'll lumber it again before I die....retirement age. We will never actually make money on the property. $4k in taxes every year eats that up. But it does a pretty good job sustaining the property and keeping us net zero.

[@eugeneroe9781]

really enjoyed your video keep up the good work im from eastern iowa

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Will do!

[@chris500579]

I bought same type of property with house 3 years ago. I got my self same type of equipment. Hunting, gardening, wood chapping ,tree clearing for food plots, and lot's more. Lots of work but I love it any piece of it.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

What State are you in?

[@chris500579]

Outdoors With The Morgans Illinois, same type weather and forest what you have. Yesterday I broked my (modified by me) log splitter. Tomorrow I will fix it in my machine shop (I need to reinforce it by welding some more knife support .I will do your way of stocking firewood. (Really looks good. Organized).

[@highinthedirt]

I know this video is older, but we watched again just because we're getting close to buying some acreage. Anyhow, my Doberman went absolutely BANANAS when that fox screamed, I had to stop the video before she destroyed the house. I love watching, keep up the good work.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

lol, my dogs do the same thing. Isn't that crazy?

[@marksparkplug7758]

Great information Mike!. I use that call that the Fox makes in certain situations when hunting Coyotes. I can do it on a Reed call, but have it on my electronic caller. take care!

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

We had a fox last year killed 4 chickens, daylight attacks. You could be standing talking in the yard and it would come busting out of the woods and grab a chicken. I finally had the chance to light him up with a 12 gauge

[@travis3126]

my wife and i just bought a house with 80 acres wooded with hills and trout river/ beaver ponds in the back 20 got it for 2500 acre best money ive ever spent now i can have my own little sanctuary!

[@LloydJarvis]

Like your videos. We definitely have the same interest, I love the land to.we have about 150 acres of family land that i get to play on and hunt. It's about an hour away is the only unfortunate thing.

[@ewddy67]

Bought my 15 acres in central Vermont. Have 4 ac and house in South Western NH. Love the videos!

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Thanks Ellen, Thats a beautiful part of the Country up there

[@cfishel15]

Terrific video and info, Mike! I hope to be living the dream when I retire in 6 years with 20+ acres in Northern New England.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Nice, New Hampshire or Maine?

[@cfishel15]

Not sure yet. Looking in Northern Vermont, too.

[@ericroot5043]

I think you are my brother from another mother lol. I was looking for 10ish acres to buy at a young age, ended up buying 55 acres with a home, lake, and a shop on it 9 years ago in west central Illinois (Golden triangle). I was 26 years old, and scared to death, but something made me drive forward. At the time I had doubts, figured I was in over my head on the purchase. But looking back I know I clearly made a great decision. The value of my property has doubled just in that short amount of time. Just throughout the time I've owned it I've heard comments from people saying that I "must have had help" in owning a piece of property like this. That strikes a nerve in me considering the hard work and dedication I've put in towards having what I do. Another thing people will say is that "I'm lucky" for buying and owning this piece of property. Well, I'll have to say that working your a$$ off isn't luck. And I tell them that I've worked my a$$ off to get this place, and I also have to work my a$$ off to keep it. Anyways, I've just recently found your channel so I've been binge watching it for awhile. Needless to say I love the content lol. I know this is an older video but I'm surprised it doesn't have more views. God bless ya Mike - Eric Root

[@matthewsims359]

Just the other day i watched a video from red tool house on buying land. I would recommend that you also watch several videos and talk to people who have land. I am not in the market but i like watching these kind of videos, who knows, i might be able to help someone else who is looking to buy land. Great tips, thanks for sharing.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@ltpls1]

My kind of life. How lucky we are to be Americans and have to the life we have. Enjoying your story.

[@Wakeywhodat]

Nice video, I'd add a few points. Working on your land will lengthen your life, especially if you wear your seat belt on the tractor, ask me how I know lol The activity is good for your body, a sedentary lifestyle is a killer. Be advised of any property with water on it, especially streams. If someone has already established a home there you may have a paper trail at the county in regard to floods. Always talk to neighboring property owners pre-sale, they might be frank, especially if they don't like the current owners. ;-)

[@johncourtneidge]

Thank-you and best! John

[@DeerParkFarmstead]

Great content as usual. I’m in the process of buying a small parcel but definitely intend to buy more. Thanks Mike. You’re starting a revolution here. Lol

[@jpdavis7676]

Good video. You are a good steward of your land. Thanks.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Thanks John, I'm trying

[@bobthuotte8743]

My uncle lives in Bradford county he hasn’t been home in about 3 yrs that gas strike is really something!!

[@DavidChad]

Good info! Thanks for the vids, keep 'em coming! :)

[@tlong2374]

Great video Mike. I admit though, I have that truck you speak of. Although... I use it as a truck. I liked the idea of be able to be comfortable driving after a hard day. Not to mention, that I think a truck of any sort is an invaluable tool. From what I read from your comment on a fancy truck, I'm certain your talking about the guy who has this big truck and never hauled anything but maybe the mail on the way in. Lol. Thanks Mike, keep them coming..

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

T Long Thats exactly what Im talking about.

[@johnmagocs7794]

T Long a

[@samualiam9981]

I only have 5.2 acres and a used 02 Kubota B21 TLB with about 1200 hours on it but I understand everything you are saying. Its an investment and you have to put in the effort to make it worth more than what you payed for it regardless of the times.... and inflation. Cheers from the Northeast.

[@diycentral]

We are only looking for 2-3 acres so the mineral rights thing probably doesn't pertain to something that small but it was interesting info.

[@justinshaw5706]

that fox scream freaking gave me the chills.....my wife and I live on 7 acres and her family has hundred of acres. I never been exposed to having land growing up, but I know damn well my kids will!! So much fun to be able to go out and "work" on the properties. I used to golf 3-4 times a week and now that's about all I do all year!!

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

I know what you mean about that fox, 3 am totally quiet out then all the sudden that noise lol

[@plutothor5592]

Also creepy at night in the woods is hearing a barn owl.The first time I heard one I thought I was being stalked by the Nazgul from Lord of the Rings.

[@justinshaw5706]

ha! walking into my treestand in the pitch black and kicking up a rabbit gets my blood flowing!!

[@davidsharpe3839]

Screaming babies, when I was an RAF Police dog handler, we would guard/patrol the bomb dumps and the foxes would start at 2, 3 in the morning, scared the s**t out of you all alone. The times I almost shot a bush because it had freak me out so much. Good analogy as before you said it, we always said sounds like screaming babies.

[@conanthebarbarian1000]

Very nice video, as usual!

[@adventurerhoades]

Better to get your kids hooked on hunting and playing on the land. Than hooked on drugs and their phones

[@adventurerhoades]

A while back i youtubed buying land this video popped up. Some good thoughts on the subject. I started watching your channel after I saw this video. Well we had a opportunity out of the blue pop up on a nice piece of land. We are calling it our Psalm 133 property. We will come up with a actual name later. Any how its 133 acres with a nice small house and pole bard. Looking forward to using the land. Moving my parents there as caretakers for now they are looking forward to the country living, Close to the river nice creek and great deer hunting :) God is good. People like you make the world better to great videos

[@robertpowell2746]

Hey Mike you're right I'll tell you a quick story back in 1967 I bought a new Mustang with my first job. My dad said why don't you go out there to Hawks Prairie the lands going for $125 per acre buy you some land. I said pop that land is never going to be nothing well come to find out right now it's developed and there's a Cabela's sitting on it I would have had the potential to be a millionaire if I would have bought enough land.

[@williamwallace176]

I am a native Texan and almost 80 years old. If you buy land in Texas you are lucky to get one eighth of an eighth of an eighth of the mineral rights...and heaven forbid the land once belonged to a family with six kids...But you are right...The mineral rights are certainly important.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

I can't imagine how complicated it is in Texas, I was lucky here. Bought my land twenty some years ago and minerals came with it. Now, everyone is splitting the minerals all sorts aways since the Marcellus

[@bigmalcvids]

Hi Mike,So do I understand this correct, You own 5 acres of land ( approx ) & it is valued at today’s price $17,500 per acre!!!??? I own a detached property with a 60 foot garden & it’s valued at £300,000 .... (In North West England): I reckon I’m going to sell up & come & live near you 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿&🇺🇸

[@MusicMan6512]

Just curious. How many acres do you guys have. Sorry if you have already covered this. I'm kinda new to the channel

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

We have about 50 and it joins my moms place so about a 100 to take care of

[@timziegler9358]

Good comments! Thank you

[@ozzstars_cars]

Good info and advice

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Thanks

[@kkutube1972]

My biggest concern in TN was graveyard, there just to be randomly everywhere.

[@Just4Ever]

Great video! I'm a new sub and have been going through your past videos enjoying each one. One question, do you work on your land full time (i.e. retired) or just in your spare time?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

No work a full time job, Just evenings and weekends

[@mattisback13]

Did u consider buying the kubota l4701 tractor instead of your 3901?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Yes, I did but settled on the 3901, If I had more fields and more brush hogging I would have gotten one

[@Grakoham]

For a second I interpreted the title as pros and cons of buying a screaming fox.

[@MrMharley]

Good ideas Mike

[@Fortify24]

how many acres do you own?? beautiful property. thanks for sharing.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

we have about 40 and it joins my moms place so around 90 total to take care of

[@feaseable]

Hi mike. I live in beautiful british columbia, Canada. I just bought 21.55 acres for $50000 (thats $39249 USD) thank you for your great vids, what kind of work do you do?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Work in Oil & Gas (supervision)

[@feaseable]

Thats great. I work in a gold/ copper mine in northern BC Canada.

[@robertironside3166]

A forest is an organized life form unto itself.... an organism in practice but many organisms at face value... That being said, the Japanese Stilt Grass and grass in gegeral... will choke off and kill a Deciduous stand of trees unless you let the trees defend themselves... i.e. letting the trees that fall... rot and take out the grass where they fall.. the trees left alive in the area then find it easier to seed in that soil that the fungi has loaded with nitrates but although harmonious with the trees isn't so good for the grass. Rabbits [in 2020 summer you saw tons of them...] they will eat small pine shoots and prevent them from replenishing their stand. Farmers used to refer to a certain ancient practice that was forgotten in the 1920's for a while which many believe helped to contribute to the dust bowls of the dirty 30's. This practice, ancient, is called letting one section lay "Fallow" or to itself or it's own means and untended for a few years then bringing it back into circulation and letting another section go fallow in a rhythm of management. Grass brings certain parasites to roots... anyway... I noticed holes in the roots of a couple of oaks [white oaks that had dropped]. For now harvesting the downed trees is good. When you want to the stands to replenish themselves, think about letting the trees and dead stumps stay fallow for a few years and watch what happens. It's part of the life cycle of a Deciduous forest in particular to use death as a means for insuring new life of each species of wood. You'll see Jack pine sneak its way in among White and Red pine and it has a life span of about 85 years where White Pine goes to about 120 to 140.. red is similar to the White in life span and they grow with each other very well... but the Jacks you'll see full of bugs first and falling to rot and feed the forest floor... BUT a Jack's cones only open and shed seed to the floor with fire :-)) After a fire you'll see a lot of Jacks spring up and Whites and Reds will come back a bit slower but they return in with the Jack's who continue the cycle of feeding the floor for new growth of Coniferous trees like Pines and Spruce... Anyway.. was thinking of what'[s being going on with your white Oak and thought I'd share my thoughts [fox are hard on chickens but also take out the rabbits as to Lynx take out the rabbits and so... protect your seedlings]. If you start encouraging the deer don't stop feeding them or they'll eat seedlings as well as they forage for sweet stuff like the previous years shoots and seedlings]. I saw you looking at a filthy looking Jack pine on your one trip out West [Jack's have bark that looks like a pine tree with skin shedding plates of black looking bark]. Like blueberries Jacks like a fire to start new growth in a big way. Yada yada yada lol

[@Wakeywhodat]

Oh, and the fox screams, we tell those that don't know better it's the elusive black panther lol

[@mattking67]

A screaming bobcat is a frightening sound!

[@RustinJessen]

This is going to be an odd question for you, but can you tell me what the music is you used during the ending outro of this video?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

I will try and find it

[@SmallHoldingAtHillhigh]

Geez... I've seen foxes during the day at our house/build site, so CAN'T WAIT for our Permanent Pack of Four to go completely BONKERS at 3am.... Ugh.... Thanks for the warning, but still looking forward to BREATHING ROOM!!!!!

[@barryespeseth7355]

I heard the exact screams last summer and thought it was a fisher cat. But we have fox so it must have been them.

[@TIMLASHLEY]

good advice

[@mustangshelby4423]

I thinking that screams was from a chupa cabra 😁

[@thomaswojnarowski9193]

... a satanic child?!! Good one! Anyhow, great advice on buying land. Looking to do so in the near future. Thanks Mike.

[@nicholsworth2754]

Land here in Mississippi is as low as 1500 an acre!

[@bobarmbruster2696]

Down side, you need a bigger tractor, bigger mower...... oh wait..... LOL nevermind. Thanks Mike

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

Exactly lol

[@MrSparkums]

Get the "Land Patent"...

[@richardwcalkins]

like to work outside keep busy all thew time

[@COPexchange]

15000? An acre or 1500?

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

15 Thousand

[@fishingbreath]

did you ever hear a fisher scream?

[@bw7471]

Yup, get lots while you are young! lol

[@Dontmakemereregister]

How much land do you have? My neighbor gave me an opportunity to buy 70+ acres for a little over 100K. Hilly, some wetlands, but a nice piece overall. Wouldn't be my primary house until the kids go to college... 11 years, but I'd be looking to improve in that time. I asked my dad what he thought and he said don't be stupid, save your money. I don't agree with that mentality and it seems like you are in the same boat. And this is in CT. Land isn't cheap here.

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

And Now For Something Completely Different, We have about 40 and it joins my moms place so 90 total to take care of. All I will say about buying land is this. When you buy it you can't believe how expensive it is, then in 15 or 20 years you Can't believe how little you paid for it.

[@HeyImAndrew...]

Buy it. I too love in CT, and have never seen that much for that price. A 50 acre lot sold for 230k near me, and it even had a conservation easement that restricted building

[@HeyImAndrew...]

And Now For Something Completely Different Where is CT are you?