#36 Winter test of VW e-Golf 24 kWh part 1

First part of the winter test. On this part, I travel south to Kristiansand and back. I didn't hit any snow. But at least I got to test the car on motorway and some twisty roads.
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[@JohnDoe-vx3z]

I want this as station wagon with a 60kWh battery.

[@KalleKilponen]

6:05 You can actually use the maxidot display (the one in the middle of the instrument cluster) to display anything you want even during navigation, just hit the back button (right thumb) and then scroll to the menu item you'd like. If you still want to see turn by turn navigation, hit the Nav button on the center stack twice, that brings up a turn by turn window on the left side of the center touchscreen.

[@RubenKelevra]

Hooray, thanks for the extended test :)

[@martinuteng1403]

My 2016 e-golf gets 14.5 kw/100 in the winter (-2'C) time on a trip like Oslo - Skien. 10.8 kw/100 in the summer (+18'C).

[@37Zbig]

What a thriller, what a suspense. Glad you made it to the other charger Bjorn

Thanks for great videos Björn! Any time on when you can do test on the new E-golf with the 35,8KWh battery?

[@overtaxed3628]

I would trade my vw golf diesel (dinosaur) for that e-golf any time, nice vid as allways Bjorn, keep it up.

[@petersachs764]

Having a MK5 Jetta TDI in the USA means exactly that will occur with my $13,000 buyback (or at least partly so).

[@albi2k88]

Speed dependent volume adj. was even in 90's VW stereo, there was knob called "GALA" to adjust this function.

[@iPhone-wn3wb]

That’s my dream car, it looks and works amazingly, and the total emissions are lower than with traditional cars, with no local emissions

[@pete9b]

Brilliant Blørn, thanks for the video

[@allerton12005]

Another great video Bjorn, but didn't you know that in D mode you can alter the regen by flicking the gear lever sideways left or right to increase or decrease from coasting to full region

[@deili1]

Kan du skriv på den oppsummeringa ka de koster å lade på stasjonene eller per mil å kjøre turn som du kjører.

[@sergeyyevtukh388]

Bjorn' street food, whohaaaa ;-)))))) I like your video still, thanks a lot!!! And you totally worth the support on patreon, done deal !

[@Muskar2]

You can get stronger regen by pushing the gear stick to the left while in D/B mode (and to the right for weaker regen). That's what the + and - means, as seen on the gear stick at 21:05.

[@sab0nes]

Cool video. I'm deciding between the Chevy Spark and the 1st Gen eGolf, about 2016. They have the basic same range. But the Spark is really small. I'm 6'3" stood next to my coworkers cat it's tiny the regular Golf I fit in fine.

[@bluefoxtv1566]

The noise you hear from the charger is most likely the switching of the power supply the is used to convert the AC in to DC for the car.

[@Darkturbo960]

i like the videos you make!

[@petersachs764]

I've been waiting for a this video for months now. I have a 90 mile round trip commute from Worcester into Boston. Level-2 chargers are available but often full. Level-3 is still a bit of a detour in Chestnut Hill or Marlboro Simon Malls and soon Interstate 90 rest stops. With the continued upgrades in Massachusetts and the 35.8kw model out later there is a pretty good chance this car might be in my future.

[@hanswurst1660]

Is there one place to look for chargers in your country?

[@pallibj]

Very nice video Bjørn. And I like the Golf. Except the laptop batteri in it 🤔

[@thomasverby5831]

When will you test the VW e-golf FL? :)

How did you make so fine and steady walk around the car in the begining of the video? I really liked it.

[@ashgob5256]

Hej Björn! Om du skulle rekommendera en entry elbil som INTE kostar 1milj kr. Vilken bil skulle du rekommendera då? Tycker du det är värt att köpa en elbil idag eller ska man vänta på större konkurrens i elbilsbranschen? Model 3?

[@bew245]

Thing to remember this car is is really is an interim step before the ID etc go into production. VW may have been a bit slow off the starting blocks with a fully dedicated EV but generally speaking EV take up has been fairly slow and by waiting a while, they will probably benefit from improved battery technology right when sales start ramping up and they have the car to catch those sales

[@sosedated08]

Great Job!

[@funev4240]

Isn’t back to back DC fast Charging supposed to be really bad for the battery?

[@olley7692]

Hvordan kan jeg overtale foreldrene mine til å kjøpe en Tesla😂👍🏽 forslag?👌🏽

[@GrahamWathey]

Looks like a good option for Golf fan boys. By the way, what do you use to create your animated maps?

[@chriso.3324]

Nice Video! How did you realise the flight around the car 1:25... With a drone or someone helped you?

[@justcharge1261]

When the e-Golf is fast charging with low speed, it could be the battery pack, there is going to warm after several fast charging sessions. So it slows down, because there is no battery cooler. It is the same problem with af Nissan Leaf. /Jan

[@deili1]

Kansje legge inn hvor mye tid du bruker totalt på lading

[@aaronz9687]

E golf looks like a pretty good car. Analog battery percent gage? What was vw thinking? The problem with CCS charging is that my state only has eleven chargers. Obviously Norway pretty much has the entire country covered with both kids of DC chargers.

[@roysfreestuff]

Bjorne, I enjoy your vids. I leased a 2019 e-Golf SE (no fun LEDs inside) and love it in San Diego, but my first Thanksgiving trip to Vegas (333 miles) had me cursing my car and lusting after Teslas. Last summer I drove 1,957 miler RT into NorCal from SoCal, about 30 recharge stops. VW limits L3 charging to 1 in 24 hours. I ran into this daily over my 2 weeks. After much frustration I found this detail in the manual or spoke to someone at VW. You didn’t seem to encounter this in the 24 kW or the 35.8 kW models. Thoughts?

[@leslielucci3182]

What is the lifetime of the battery? And how much does a new battery cost?

[@therandomtester9561]

Bjørn oh Bjørn, you have to do more research! This is by far the first generation Golf EV. Not very well sold, but they had the "Citystromer" for many years. Started in the 70's with the MK1 Golf actually ;)

[@funkydunky1671]

Bjørn, do you read user manuals for the cars you make reviews for? You may show some obscure settings and/or non obvious tricks. Doing that while charging may be a good way to spend time.

[@aaron___6014]

Funky Dunky he's a programmer, so he is probably more curious than most.

[@F0NIX]

One intersting thing with the touchscreen that you did not mention (at least that I could hear) was the ir-sensor strip below the touchscreen. As soon as you moved your hand in front of the screen, the menu bar in the bottom popped up before you had touched the screen. And when you moved your hand away the bottom menu disapeared. Nice feature when the screen is so small (compared to the Tesla). I wonder how sensitive the sensor is? Like if you sit like an "cruiser" (or whatever they call it today), leaned back and way down in the seat so you hardly see over the dashboard and have one hand over the gear shift and the other over the top of the steering wheel :) Would the screen detect if you wiggle/move the fingers (in beat to the music), or do you need to get closer before it detects your hand? I also hope they change the color of those interior lights, probably a easy fix with todays LED's.

[@MannidonnaXT]

Where is Part 2?

[@narc1408]

I'm pretty sure that german cars have the fuel cap/ charging port on the right to keep you out of the traffic if you're at the side of the road. Japanese cars on the other hand have it on the left, not to keep you in traffic, but because they drive on the left side.

[@SuperLaugh20]

Haha, Bjorn has his own shop at 5:02

[@AaronStarkLinux]

Part 1??

[@lucasjonland]

hvordan er det å bo i Norge

[@Trades46]

I laughed at the E-NV200 @ 37:20. I imagine it might be worthwhile to review it during the warmer summer months. The size of it could be a big payout for larger Nimber tasks, but then again you have the Model X with the trailer...

[@petersachs764]

Will there be a part 2? Btw, you should pay Lil' Jon samples over the backround music. ;-)

[@pallibj]

At 1:03:04 you are right. I have charger several times on these two and the other one seems to charge faster than this one. I, like you, get around 30kwh from this one but the other one seems to charge around 47kwh. At least while charging my Leaf 30kwh.

[@mrdsn189]

e-NV200 Test Pleeeeeease!

[@taztaz79]

When will the Opel Ampera-E be released in Norway? You have to do a review of that one! :)

[@bjornnyland]

I have no idea. But I will review that car too :)

[@tubertue1]

taztaz79 Norway will be the first market for the Ampera E. First deliveries are planed for June. Dealers already got a lot of orders.

[@kingken0460]

I just got this car and for city driving and short tire it’s good but longer drives kills the range.

[@rofferos239]

That collision warning comes randomly at our two Skoda cars.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

what?? .....another video ...yay : )

[@boba6776]

I enjoyed the video. Do you get the feeling that life is too short for an E-Car? You seem to spend much time charging and you need to carry a large supply of food and hot drinks:-)

[@BSC4PE]

How did you do the rotating shot of the Golf?

[@bjornnyland]

DJI Mavic Pro ftw! It is much smoother than using DJI Osmo.

[@BSC4PE]

Bjørn Nyland no wonder it was so smooth. Such incredible devices, drones. I kinda want one now.

[@93AR155V6]

@12:50 Signs is Björn´s fastfood and perfect match, lol.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

In the next week or two I will fulfill a longtime dream of mine and buy my first electric car! But! I only have around $15000US to work with, so that means used. Luckily (or unluckily depending on how you look at it) most EVs depreciate in value quite fast, so really nice used ones can be found with low miles, one owner, etc. I've really been trying to locate a 2017 egolf because that was when they got the much larger battery (35.5 vs 24kwh), but it has been impossible to find one in that price range. Close, but not quite. Anyway, for the way _I_ drive, even 80-ish miles of range with average use will be fine for the vast majority of the time for me. On the rare occasions that I need to go further there is always the quick charger on the way there and/or back...

[@ayasinsk]

32:45 All German cars have gas caps on right side.

[@deili1]

Setter virkelig pris på filmene dine ev å tesla er mine største interesser

[@funkydunky1671]

36:40 what is the meaning of green number plates in Norway?

[@ajzarnel]

Funky Dunky those are non passenger cars, like delivery vans.

[@therandomtester9561]

Anyone can buy those cars, does not have to be a company. The rules has changed, earlier you could by for instance the Audi S/RS4 estate with green plates. In same periode other estates and 4x4 (Pajero, Patrol etc) and pickups was normal with green plates as well. Taxes on cars here are crazy high. With a van with green plates, you pay about 20% of the taxes. Must be max one row with seats (2 or 3 normally) and fit a box of a given size in the rear.

[@funkydunky1671]

Rayner Bønå, if you buy the van and later install the second row of seats, is it a serious crime or merely a ticket?

[@therandomtester9561]

As long as the seats are secured propperly with seatbelts and such, they most care about the taxes. For the e-NV200 I'm not sure, as electric cars have no taxes, yet. But if you do that with a fossil car, I think.. you get a ticket pluss you have to pay the seat-taxes. For a NV200, the backrow-seats will be taxed at around 100.000 NOK (startprice of diesel-van is about 200.000 NOK, and just over 300.000 NOK for the NV200 Evalia). For a Toyota Land-Cruiser, I think the seat-tax is more like 300.000 NOK. 1 Euro is around 10 NOK. This tax is reduced as the car gets older, so a 5 year old car you may only have to pay half of that.

[@001Winnetou]

In my opinion you should do also short videos, like reviews. I want to know useful information about e-golf, kia, zoe and hyundai but I do not have 1h time. I think you just need to cut this video and have 2 videos, long and short. It will definitely help you to grow the channel!

[@bjornnyland]

Short video reviews of the cars is coming. I just have to finish the last one, BMW i3 94 Ah, before I can fully compare these models.

[@rmicai]

44:15 is poker illegal in Norway?

[@ivarandreassen3209]

If you gamble with money when playing poker...then yes..that is illegal in Norway.

[@Xantec]

id also imagine part of the e-golf's problem is its weight being made from steel and aluminium

[@mewtwo255200]

Dude that burger. I want it.

[@apkungen89]

You are doing lots of energy usage comparisons between all the cars except for tesla now a days. It would be great if you compared them to a model s and an x as well. Mostly so that people understand how efficient the model s is and how bad the nedc cycle is, because the model s real milage is a lot closer to the nedc in percentage than what the Leaf is for example. With the Leaf, in my opinion, you get only around half of the NEDC range in real conditions, but with the tesla you can get almost 70% of the nedc.

[@stealthhack]

battery can be modified with new cells, in the future, DIY style!

[@vdivanov]

The battery packaging in the e-Golf is rather tight, one of the impressive factory conversions out there, it would be hard to do so. At least VW should allow the older cars to upgrade to the new pack.

[@stealthhack]

It's all about the BMS system and higher energy density cells, that will come in the near future, and they will come i am sure of that, no matter how will look like OEM or DIY(open battery compartment, remove old, insert new).

[@vdivanov]

Higher density may require better thermal management and this pack has none. Hope you are right.

[@anima322]

BMW i3 has low beam LED optional and high beam always Halogen! Ioniq also... ZOE has only Halogen (new Z.E. 40 Zoe better Halogen) Soul EV Xenon afaik

[@cwclifford]

Looks at fuel prices, "ooh Circle K...I should fill up my car".

[@sketchpro12]

should've gotten an SEL with heatpump, and 7.2 KW charger .... But yeah, it's not really a long range car....yet.

[@eliots7218]

I like how he overtook another Tesla

[@InsideAsia]

14:42 lol funny expression

[@mcopanzan]

"Mmmmm Big Sausage" hehehe ;)

[@2ftpmarco]

12:14 Electric car ASMR

[@Steffen_]

The problem is the Heavy Weight of the Car. Thats one point why the Range is so bad. The E Golf is heavier than a Stock Golf with a Petrol Engine.

[@bjornnyland]

That only applies for the 100 kWh version. The other ones with 40, 60, 75, 85 and 90 kWh battery packs don't have this weakness.

[@JPetr94]

Some extra 100kilos over 2.0tdi/tsi - no big deal. In addition, axle load distribution is way better in E.

[@Biskawow]

clarkson and may pretended its near impossible to travel 100 km in an i3

[@bjornnyland]

The 33 kWh version, right? I expect at least 150 km range on that one.

[@zahlex]

I really don't get why VW doesn't do a small redesign of the Golf VII and make a "real" EV with something in the 60-100 kWh range and Battery under the floor. I'm sure the market ist there.

[@zahlex]

Yea, but thats an investment that has the power to decide if VW will be still there in 20 years or not. The two biggest markets (China & India) of VW will drain to other companies if they don't come up with a real EV in the next 1-1,5 years.

[@Steffen_]

VW can build better E Cars but they wont. The Problem is they spent too much Money and Time in Petrol Engine and Gearbox engineering. They have make much more Money with the old Engines before they will start the E series. And before that they also will sell more Hybrid Cars.

[@matthewjones8736]

Come on where is part 2. Okay I am in China and time Advanced but come on release

[@DeMolayman3308]

Go back to North Cape!!!

[@gordonmcmillan883]

So, battery and range are terrible, otherwise OK 8-)

[@gordonmcmillan883]

36Kw is an improvement, get VW to call me when it gets to 100Kw 8-)

[@bjornnyland]

That's incorrect. Model S consumes about 5-10 % more energy than an Ioniq. And Model S weighs 40-50 % more. What increases consumption is mainly drag, not weight.

[@bjornnyland]

***** Two times is +100 %, not +50 %.

[@apkungen89]

dzonikg - Well that is how it is. The model s uses only slightly more energy. I'd guess 10-20% difference between Ioniq and the model s but I have only driven model s on short test drives so I think Björn knows this better. Id guess when ioniq uses 170Wh/km the model s would use 210 Wh/km, no way the model s would use 340Wh/km. You are definitely incorrect.

[@bjornnyland]

Filip Bjurling He used imperial :P That will translate to about 200 Wh/km for Model S.

[@Trades46]

After dieselgate VW has a lot of catching up to do in EV to make up for it. It is nice to know the E-Golf is getting a larger battery, but the i3 even with its 33kWh seems to be a more attractive car due to carbon-fibre construction, thin low rolling resistance tires and more power (even if it is more expensive). Still if VW would actually SELL them here (VW hates North America, even more after EPA *laughs*), I get a Golf GTE in a heartbeat.

[@abedin1]

Haha... i think ill hold myself to Normal GAS CAR, at my job they have the leaf and in a cold day we get so bad battery cause the temp and heatin that all of us panic hahahaha. Man why doesent the norweians wait to apply new technoloy ...but yeah i love your channel Bjørn :). goood job :)

[@rasalas91]

your videos are sooooooo looong - how about some short videos with your conclusion (What did you like and dislike and stuff like this) ;)

[@rasalas91]

[Use your Brain] it's not about concentrating for that long, it's about wasting time or having the feeling of wasting time. if you skip you might miss the important parts...

[@gazerding7525]

Golf GTE is a much more sensible Golf to drive on trips like this. Until I can do a full day of driving in an electric car I will stick with my Golf TDI. Tesla is to expensive to even consider for me.

[@wodenoftheangles3339]

Even with the new pack (with real-world range expected at around 130 miles) the Golf just is no where near as appealing as the Model 3..

[@aaron___6014]

new music please.

[@jur4x]

What looks great on this e-Golf is it's classical climate control knobs rather then integrated into touchscreen menu like some other manufacturers do. And those shortcut buttons around the screen. Nice that at least some manufacturers keep things simple.

[@JakobFischer60]

The 2017 model will have 36 kwh and then comes the version with the kreisel battery. Then it really starts. So nice that the norwegians became the richest country in europe by selling oil and now they blame the other countries for not having electric cars.

[@stefanherzberg1630]

Inches? You live in Norway - I'm sure, you're not using the imperial system there. Don't support that nonsense and please use the metric system.

[@krazYFaic]

Don't swear children. Don't say shit... say shiiiiit.

[@sennlich]

tesla model 3 oder Der neue IONIQ Elektro

[@stefan.r]

Aber der Opel ist vom Design schon gewöhnungsbedürftig, erinnert sehr an einen Van. Dann lieber doch den Ioniq.

[@Nickrapper73]

Why so many people like the interior of the vw golf? That analog instruments are so from yesterday. in my opinion the interior of the ioniq is much more valuable and much more stylish.

[@House_Of_Cards_]

This car is like a fucking bad joke. Obviously made to please regulators.

[@Xantec]

its a VW, it'll fail on the emissions test lol, even though its electric !

[@Trace32]

E-Golf sucks..