The real world power consumption (8 hours light use + 2 hours gaming) is really good addition to this review. I hope you keep do this to every CPU in the future.
@shreyasdharashivkar802710 ай бұрын
4 hours gaming + 4 hours light use would be better
@kinano1310 ай бұрын
i hope to keep doing this too 😊
@RobBCactive10 ай бұрын
Come off it, this light use working day tends to be on an office not a gaming PC. Just putting the office PC to sleep when AFK changes the idle anyway.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Definitely expect something similar in reviews where it really makes a difference like here. Suggestions are welcome too about other use cases. But thinking I might just make a tool/sheet for people to make a similar calculation based on their own use. Can't cover every use case though.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
@RobBCactive I know that a lot of people use their gaming PC for work during the day. It won't apply to everyone, but it's not a niche case.
@dukejukem884310 ай бұрын
I feel like Intel judges the power consumption of their products based on whether their lights still come on and don't flicker in their facilities. If the lights still work properly then it's not consuming too much power 😂.
@user-bt6zj1uu7m10 ай бұрын
too funny🤣
@jerryshort63808 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jeroen57367 ай бұрын
yea funny, and Amd is using monkey on a bike generating power, lol
@imperfect_smile10 ай бұрын
Nice review as always, however I think you should have added the 7800X3D as in some games it had shown to be faster than the 7950X3D, I would have also liked to see the 13900KS compared to the 14900K.
@Need4FPS10 ай бұрын
Take a peak into der8auer review, some of these cpu's are listed in his comparison
@skywalker199110 ай бұрын
7800x3d is faster , yes she should have used this cpu and it's only $370.00
@earlygamer910610 ай бұрын
13900ks is the same as 14900k. There is one tech KZbinr that compare them
@jonathanoxlade425210 ай бұрын
4k gaming well might aswel not bother with intel for 4k gaming then 10% is kinda shit lol Plus who runs 1440p 4k is where its at now don't need such a hot chip its full of hot air look at it 10% performance at 4k if it was 50% improvement fuck it might aswel not bother with a intel system if that's all its gonna pruduce 10% 4k boost lol yet the 7800x3d is the perfect 4k gaming cpu it's cheap and it works sure might lose 10%, lol but 10% is not worth the price for 4k might aswrl spend more money and get the 5090 when it shows face because bits stupid now 10% boost yet a 2k gpu may offer 50% boost it sucks to say this but £750 for a 10% 4k boost vs 2k for a 50% boost Is having both any better just to have 60% lol not realy just buy a gpu don't bother with cpus it's pointless they have reached there bottle neck for performance at 10% 4k next cpu 12% 4k next one 15% at 4k why bother
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Can't test both tons of games and tons of CPUs, it's just not possible in a short time period. Make sure you're subscribed for the i7/r7 followup.
@InnocentiusLacrimosa10 ай бұрын
Good and honest review without resorting to hyperboles. I really appreciated the mixed workload approach to power consumption also as that is how most pcs are used.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Glad you think so, thank you!
@deneguil-161810 ай бұрын
Thank you for including deep dives in power consumption in all of your reviews. Lots of people may not care about them but it makes a real difference when one part is significantly more expensive to run while also being harder to cool for marginal improvements in performance. Especially for production work like in Blender, Intel is indeniably better in a lot of scenarios but the power required is so huge it makes it hard to like. Hoping the chiplet architecture comes to desktop from them soon, a low end meteor lake i5 apparently beats the 7640HS while using 15w instead of 45w so it's promising
@somebodyrand0m-sr208010 ай бұрын
There will be no meteor lake “i5” remember Intel changed their branding of CPUs to core 5.
@Minecraftrok9999 ай бұрын
@@somebodyrand0m-sr2080it's still the same thing. I believe their new marketing is however more misleading, because core count is a totally different thing than product line branding and I will refuse to say "core 5", when it's actually a 6+8 core configuration... It's just bad. They could have called it anything, yet chose "core", a word that already has a meaning.
@darrendavies110210 ай бұрын
Not a five minute job to do all these tests. Your amazing thank you for sharing your findings truly important for ua all.. thank you x
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Basically lots of sleepless nights. Glad it’s appreciated! 👊
@SIPEROTH9 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters Do you do all this tests alone? If you have no team and you pull threw alone then i tip my hat to you cause that is a lot of work.
@wijnandvanderweij506310 ай бұрын
Great review!! So happy with my 7950x3d now even more... especially when considering AM5 will last till 2026 and have at least 1 generation (maybe 2) of new cpu's
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
But you're 2% slower in gaming. How will you cope.
@acidxtrx977910 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters i think with 4 bottles of Paulaner beer and a bottle of red wine... :P
@wijnandvanderweij506310 ай бұрын
@@acidxtrx9779 😋
@wijnandvanderweij506310 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters lol... probably when I take a look at my electricity bill :)
@cyberpunk5910 ай бұрын
Mate, have you ever tried using project lasso?
@hagueian10 ай бұрын
Wow, being a Dutch 4K gamer and light application user for the rest of the time makes this review absolutly amazing. Thank you so much for your work!
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lewis2138810 ай бұрын
You know there’s a problem when a chip potentially draws more power than my 3080ti Xc3 Ultra with a 104% power limit 🤣
@furieux674210 ай бұрын
And my pc with games 3070 + 12600k control 1440p showing 330watts. XDDDD Intel really suck..😂
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
It's a feature, not a bug 😅
@rumbleshakes7 ай бұрын
I'm looking to have heavy use for 12+ hours, but I won't be unplugged much or for very long. The only thing I'm scared about with the intel is getting too hot in general.
@rodhester216610 ай бұрын
Another great video.. I dont know how your channel does not have a million subs. So professional and cheerful all the time. cheers.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👊
@nay0r10 ай бұрын
i have a 13900k already so i wont be bothering with an upgrade, hopefully next gen new socket will be way better next year, great review as always
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you! And I really hope so, they desperately need something on a better node :-/
@nay0r10 ай бұрын
@@N_N23296 you could be right, i read somewhere a while back the new socket was meant to be now so i feel like 14th gen could be intels way of doing a gap filler to give them more time to do "15th" gen
@Kapono515010 ай бұрын
So glad I went with AMD. That power consumption is just insane
@TronTonics10 ай бұрын
That's something broke people say.
@Helios.vfx.10 ай бұрын
@@TronTonics run it for more than 60 hours non stop.
@Helios.vfx.10 ай бұрын
Even tho I don't like the current AMD gen. It's indeed way more efficient than this Intel gen. I did hope it'd be better. Kinda sucks.
@Kapono515010 ай бұрын
@@Helios.vfx. For gaming, you really can’t beat the 7800X3D for 349 on Amazon. I think it went back up tho
@Kapono515010 ай бұрын
@@TronTonics That’s a very intelligent comment, you really got me there
@m4nc1n110 ай бұрын
I do not understand how you do not have millions of subs. You are experienced, thorough, easy on the ears and easy on the eyes (just saying no offense, lol). Keep up the good videos!
@SIPEROTH9 ай бұрын
It is a very competitive field now our days. Is not like the old days. You have to work for a lot of time and slowly fight for that subscribe number.
@Letheon.10 ай бұрын
Always the first channel I come to for CPU reviews. Going up to 4k is really useful for some of us in terms of our real world use cases, and I seriously appreciate the time and effort you take to provide that info, thank you!
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Always happy to hear it's appreciated, thank you!
@Guwapo7710 ай бұрын
May not be the first, but she is certainly in my video review suite.
@iancurrie884410 ай бұрын
My first reaction was 370 Watts?! Ridiculous! Then I realized that my GPU uses more than that... This is aweful. I feel like 150 for CPU and 220 for GPU is my max in the future. Things are just too difficult to keep cool and quiet.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Yeah buy most GPUs at least scale well with their performance as well.
@EarthIsFlat45610 ай бұрын
It's much more difficult to cool a CPU because of how tiny the die is. It simply can't transfer heat fast enough to the IHS. A 240mm radiator can easily keep a 450W GPU under 70℃ but not even a 420mm radiator would be able to keep a 450W CPU from reaching 100℃ and thermal throttling.
@hugo49i6 ай бұрын
So the 7950x3D would be a better choice for video editing+gaming+recording+streaming pc? (I mainly play Fortnite)
@pickletullio10 ай бұрын
Love all the LEGO botanicals sets you use as props 😄
@francischabot141210 ай бұрын
I like that more and more reviewers are testing a lot of games. It makes the outliers a lot less impactful. Back in the days people would benchmark 5-6 games and call it a day and a single outlier would skew the results a lot.
@semtexxl402310 ай бұрын
7800x3D should be included. It is faster than both on average (7950X3D has core parking problems) and in a lot of games significantly better. The best gaming cpu to date no doubt also for the fantastic price. Period.
@OrlandoCaba10 ай бұрын
LOL, for real. I'm really thinking about buying a 7950x3d to see if I could optimize it to work as well as a 7800x3d. I also understand you need to go by out of the box performance for a review but the 7950x3d needs some tweaking and that is what makes pc gaming fun and rewarding. FYI: I currently own a 7800x3d and I LOVE it.
@ghostcreeper_10 ай бұрын
@@OrlandoCabaIf you want the 7950x3D to be better youll need process lasso, which is pretty simple to setup
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Physically impossible to test more CPUs with this many games/resolutions before a launch. Make sure you’re subscribed for the follow ups that will ft the i7, r7, etc
@dawienel114210 ай бұрын
I don't think Intel can get the technical fastest gaming CPU award, The difference is just too small so it simply depends on review methodology, game list and if you include the 7800x3D in your review.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
We’ll see what happens soon. R7/i7 are up next.
@dawienel114210 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters thanks, can't wait to see the review.
@1SaG9 ай бұрын
Power draw seems a bit scary on these newer Intel chips - and not just on the i9. I just upgraded from a 12600K to a 14700KF yesterday and with default BIOS settings and no OCing whatsoever, that thing drew up to 330 Watts peak in one CPU benchmark. Cinebench 24 wasn't quite as ludicrous but still pretty ludicrous at 270 to 300W. Since I'm on a 240mm AiO and not about to upgrade to a 360 just to run benchmarks, I went into the BIOS and reduced PL1 and PL2 to 253W (default on my board was 4000-something/no limits) and things got a lot more manageable with temps staying below 80°C - and performance only dropped very slightly in CPU benchmarks. Funny thing is that, according to XTU, going higher on the power-limits didn't result in performance gains. I let XTU set PL1/2 to 300W and max current to 400A ("quick auto optimization") and according to XTU's internal benchmark, results were identical to the lower, 253W, setting. Temps and power-draw went up though, so I just left it there and slightly raised the current limit to 360A. Even at the medium, 288 or 285W preset on my board, max current would've been 500A. Should've done a bit more reading, I guess, since I never had anything faster than i5 level of performance.. :D
@Minecraftrok9999 ай бұрын
Is that below 80°C in gaming or even benchmark? I'm thinking about getting the i9 or 7950x3d and basically for the i9 I'm afraid of thermals (have good airflow and meshed side panel with the option for extra fans supplying straight fresh air to the radiator), but only space for 240mm AIO. And for the 7950x3d I am afraid of Ram compatibility, as it seems that it struggles with high clock speeds and potentially high capacity. And I want 96GBs of DDR5-6000
@JynxedKoma8 ай бұрын
What were your temps on stock for the 14700K whilst gaming roughly?
@chiphopper7 ай бұрын
Real world power consumption was exactly the thing I missed in ALL other reviews!! Thank you very much for this. 7950x3d it is!!
@andrevanniekerk471110 ай бұрын
I know it's not something that is standard, but did you set PL1/2 in the bios? As far as I could see the motherboard provides more than recommended power for the cpu
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I didn't set any manual limits no. Which is how most boards will act out of the box. Technically Intel lists an unlimited target somewhere in their docs as well iirc.
@mumbakayoba308210 ай бұрын
damn Amd and the power efficiency
@maxdema1159 ай бұрын
This definitely is one of the best channels. It deserves more subscriptions than many other KZbin channels out there.
@sephiroth45439 ай бұрын
7:03 is the reason i bought the 7950x3d, beast and i can upgrade easily in the next couple of years. I was always an Intel guy but they really are struggling with temp and manufacturing process and it drinks juice. I like how efficient the AMD chips are
@fatclemenza764410 ай бұрын
Great review in your usual informative, non-pretentious manner. Had to laugh about the last couple minutes though.... you were saying all the right things, but your tone, body language, and last few words were very telling of your real feelings about this product! Awesome! :)
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you! And I guess it was pretty obvious 😂
@ryanhoward229 ай бұрын
im building a PC and i just puchased a rog stix 4090 and intel 14900k. I was going to get the 360 kracken elite AIO and 10 lian li infinity fans. I plan to buy the lian li 011 dynamic evo case. Do you think that will be enough to keep temps under 80? I see so many builds with this so figured it would be fine, but I've seen mixed opinions. I plan to use my PC for gaming and streaming. Eventually i will edit videos for youtube, but for now gaming and streaming. Would appreciate your feedback!
@TechTesters9 ай бұрын
It should be fine. Gaming CPU temps should be under 80C generally, CPU workload under 80C isn't going to happen unless you limit the power draw (~253W Intel Spec should be easy enough, 350W+ is going to run any regular AIO at its limits). It's also not horrible if it runs a bit hotter than that.
@ryanhoward229 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your response. Needed the peace of mind. I will continue with my build. Any advice on ram? I just purchased gskill trident 7200mhz 48g 2 sticks. How do you go about limiting the power draw? Do you have a video on that? Is it necessary with my build and what I plan to do? Whats the max temp for the 14900k that I should be concerned about if it goes over?@@TechTesters
@Enilyks_10 ай бұрын
Great video but i would of added in the 7800x3d as well for gaming comparison.
@skywalker199110 ай бұрын
7800x3d is king , even 14900k couldn't beat it . Just watched hardware unboxed video , and $370.00 cpu is kicking Intel ass big time.
@Enilyks_10 ай бұрын
@elcactuar3354 get a life
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Can't expect lots of games, multiple resolutions and then tons of CPUs as well, how much time do you think we get to test pre launch? :) Get subbed for the r7/i7 followup :)
@MrSmitheroons10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! People may not care about power consumption, but like you said, the cost of the coolers, the trouble of worrying about your cooler and PSU being enough... That's meaningful to me, personally. I am biased since I care a lot about power consumption, though. And yeah, you can run this CPU cooler by tuning it. But if you lose any of that 3% gain over the 13900K, what's the point of spending more? So, I hope these are actually better-binned or better-built CPUs, where the efficiency lets you hit good performance even when undervolting or setting a lower wattage limit. Otherwise this really is just a higher factory overclock, which would be silly as the basis of an entire refresh line. The added E-cores lower down in the 14th gen CPU stack are the only stand-out thing that could make a large difference compared against 13th-gen. But that's not in every part, only a couple get more E-cores. Anyway, it's still going to be some time until Arrow Lake, so yeah, intel wants to stock those shelves with higher-priced CPUs for the holiday season... Oh well. Like you said, at least it doesn't perform worse than 13th gen. (Unless it turns out harder to tame to lower wattage than 13th gen, in which case it would actually be a worse product for me, since I care about efficiency. I doubt it, but those out-of-the-box numbers are actually concerning, so I'll believe it when I see someone try and tune them. I won't buy it just to mess around with it, I don't have extra money to waste on 3% performance gains or "for science".)
@Solrac-Siul10 ай бұрын
What I really appreciate in the review is the power consumption values at higher resolution, since independently of AMD or Intel, most reviewers just strap the power at 1080 normally with a 4090 , what does not represent actual use for more than 90% of the audience of those reviews. Going from almost 300 watts at 1080 to 160 at 4k is like halving the consumption . ps, I also advise anyone that buys either the 14900 or the 14700 to fiddle with the bios settings and limit power, particular in Asuss and MSI mb, and if possible undervolt , since apparently that will result in negligible performance loss (that can even be 0 at higher resolution) in exchange of temperature drops of up to 20 degrees and around 30% reduction in consumption.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thanks! And undervolting will definitely be something to look into for this chip, but that'll require a lot more time that you just don't have pre launch.
@jimmyjiang341310 ай бұрын
For Arrow Lake, Panther Lake and later, I would rather like to see a drastically reduced power consumption in all workloads and reduction of both PL1 and PL2 boost power at the same performance, in the sake of efficiency. Idle: SoC tile only. Full performance all tile on only at TDP.
@JynxedKoma8 ай бұрын
With 15th gen for desktop including the new AI NPU's, that is very likely. But for the desktop version of 15th gen, you'll have to wait until October 2024, as they're only being released in for mobile (laptops) as of today.
@jimbo12110 ай бұрын
Ridiculous that they got these things to market with those power consumption results wow. I'm still rocking my 9700k at 5ghz and now feeling the upgrade pressure from games. I think I may go AMD for my first time ever.
@dex4sure3619 ай бұрын
Its just like Haswell and Haswell refresh in 2013-2014.
@gurpindersinghmuttar5 ай бұрын
Hello Techtesters, as per this the Amd 7950x3d looks more convincing, but have also heard the amd v cache still has many stability issues as it get confused when to use v cache and when not... I mostly do gaming and my intel 8th gen is still working very well so planning for 15th gen upgrade but looking at such power consumption it is now confusing to go with intel
@P_OmSa10 ай бұрын
There are only two kinds of computer hardware reviews on KZbin: *Nada's* and everyone else's. You always take the time to compile and present all the information people need to make purchasing decisions, and it is much appreciated by all your viewers, everywhere!
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliments! And same to Garrus, nothing wrong with being mentioned in the same sentence as HUB either.
@hershy10 ай бұрын
Shouldve tested with 7800x3d
@dawienel114210 ай бұрын
Its very sad to see 7800x3D not included here.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Can only test so much in a certain amount of time. It's coming soon.
@dawienel114210 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters Thought as much, next time hopefully.
@christinacarter255010 ай бұрын
Interesting video! 😀🤘🏼
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@stand35510 ай бұрын
This surely gives the AMD FX-9590 a run for its money!
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
At least this has competitive performance 😅
@TQHouse5 ай бұрын
Thank you for having the most straight forward display of new gpus and cpus.
@TechTesters5 ай бұрын
Glad you think so, and thank you!
@danielabbott93129 ай бұрын
An extra 30$ a year is not significantly more expensive to run also intel idles at a lower wattage than amd, so while it does consume significantly more power when boosting overall it is more efficient.
@andynonimuss629810 ай бұрын
Higher memory speed support is one important advantage with the 14900K.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
They first said that during the briefing? Mentioning ddr5-6000 as the standard. But then the final specs still list 5600. We’ll have to see if there really is any difference or not.
@maegnificant9 ай бұрын
Thank you for including 4k data! I hope next time you can include the 7800x3d as it is faster in gaming than the 7950x3d, specify the RAM you used and limit the power of the i9 to Intels official specs, as it is just draining power through most motherboards
@boredtuna00110 ай бұрын
Cooler manufacturers are banging their heads against the wall after witnessing this...
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
They're probably rubbing their hands knowing you'll have to buy more expensive coolers :D
@user-if4rb3yk2j4 ай бұрын
URRAAA for Intel I9 14900K i bought the I9 14900KF and i don't regret it is a powerful CPU, everything i throw at it, it goes so smooth and with 128gb of ram what doesn't lol keep up the good work on this videos of urs
@Waldherz10 ай бұрын
So, the first stock 6ghz CPU that actually maintains those 6ghz for more than 5 seconds. For someone who has been waiting for thos mythical 6-11ghz Pentiums back then, this is nice to see ^^
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
They have that going for them I guess. 😅
@Waldherz10 ай бұрын
? I think you dont understand my only semi serious comment on Intel reaching their 6ghz goal which they wanted to have reached over 15 years ago xD@@N_N23296
@JynxedKoma8 ай бұрын
I got 6GHZ on a Quad core back in 2007... for like five seconds during a bios overclock using the stock intel CPU cooler, until my entire system bricked as a result.
@Adrian-lr5xq9 ай бұрын
How do some of these reviewers do their benchmarks and power consumption tests? Lol i'm on a 4090 with a 14900KF and in Cyberpunk the power usage is 80-105w, These numbers are way off.
@Oblivionplayer123456 ай бұрын
I think it would be interesting to also see the performance impact on games that are heavily modded and a little older, such as Skyrim
@xellaz10 ай бұрын
Awesome review! That's a lot of games tested! Thank you for including the 4K benchmark. I don't care what others say that there is a GPU bottleneck at this resolution. I game at 4K 240Hz and I like to see how different CPUs perform at this resolution on a variety of games. 👍 I'm still on a Ryzen 9 5950X and RTX 3090 and have no plans upgrading anytime soon. I thought I might go Intel on my next build seeing how good in performed and even beating AMDs current best.... until I saw how much power it needed to consume to achieve those FPS. 😅 Keep up the hard work! You're my favorite female tech reviewer! 😘
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you! And happy that the 1440p/4K stuff is appreciated too!
@nochancecw10 ай бұрын
Great stuff! I think Intel is in trouble with AMD's next version. But it's nice to see AMD forcing competition.
@Cogniciones10 ай бұрын
At this point we need Intel making better cpus or Amd will become Intel from 7 years ago
@nochancecw10 ай бұрын
@@Cogniciones Intel goes low and sucks, Nvidia buys them up and down to only 2 players in the field ;). Haha. Worse case.
@dapperdan81710 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. Did not know the power draw is that big. Btw. Any new monitor reviews around the corner? Could not find a single review thats detailed like yours. Still waiting for the perfect 4k display...
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I have a few really nice monitors coming up! Not 4K but definitely interesting alternatives.
@SupraSav10 ай бұрын
intel must have investments in the energy sector with these power numbers.
@AWG0NE10 ай бұрын
Hey SSD QUEEN 👑 i want to know which SSD, how TB, model and brand u used for this test bcuz i am planning from long time to buy ssd for games. and tell also much all 35 games total size.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I'm using the Transcend 250 4TB drives for the game library. Not sure exactly how much space the games take together, but it's close to 3.5TB iirc.
@mikesaini52588 ай бұрын
hi there- I like your video but just some feedback I bought the i9 14 and it is a noticeable upgrade to my i9 13 when I play CPU strapped virtual reality Sin racing titles on this Pimax Crystal headset… iso muvh more responsive and much smoother a…especially when you are spinning out it seems to sync up an extra couple of frames in that quarter sec and it feels less nauseating. It’s generally smoother when you look to the side and see other cars and scenery as well. Everything is running stock, so just giving you my thoughts about it. I’m obviously not affiliated with Intel and I I’m definitely gonna go with the full AMD in my next build …using asus hero maximus and 4090 latest speed/latency ddr5. Anyway, just wondering your thoughts because I realize that the frame rate differences are the same across bench test - do you think it’s the VR? Latency and frame rate improvements.
@TheMISBlog10 ай бұрын
Very detailed , this was very helpful
@tsage840810 ай бұрын
I enjoy your reviews. Your English is excellent. How did you learn to speak English so well? Love the Netherlands!
@cikou80768 ай бұрын
Hi. I want to build a pc: i cant choose between intel 14 gen i7 or i9 and amd 7900x or higher. Main purpose is application development( heavy workloads). I also want to game: i play most of time batlefield 2042. What do you recommend? And wich gpu with the ryzen? Thnkyou
@niravramdarie989810 ай бұрын
What about temps, is it impossible to cool like the 13900k?.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Depends on the cooler eh. A good 360 should just hold it
@niravramdarie989810 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters like a Thermaltake TH360 or Corsair H150i LCD XT?.
@TurboPersonalTraining8 ай бұрын
First off amazing video! I’m building a 14900k with the RTX 4090 and need a monitor. I do edit in davinci resolve and game also. I need a monitor! What do you recommend/ what monitor was tested here?
@TechTesters8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Really hard to say, the perfect monitor still doesn't exist. OLED is great for gaming, but there are still burn-in concerns. I love my LG 38GN950 for work, but the plain IPS contrast is disappointing in games vs modern OLED panels.
@Johan-nt3wx10 ай бұрын
Beautiful as always!!!
@gexxrider9 ай бұрын
Want to change my 10700K for 14TH Gen or 7950X3D, but but I'm totally lost in my choice. I do video editing, photo editing, gaming in 4k and 1440P with a 3080 and streaming on Twitch. I have a custom water cooling circuit with a 480mm rad. Temperature is not a problem. I play around 2 hours a day and 2 hours of retouching etc. What would you do in my place? Knowing that at around 100€ the two options are similar. Thanks for your great review, you win a new sub 🙂
@TechTesters9 ай бұрын
Both are very good at both, it'll really come down to how many hours of on-time / light use time you'll do as well (where Intel wins a bit), and how much your power costs as well (AMD becoming relatively more interesting as power rates go up). Also going AM5 will let you upgrade your CPU next year, maybe even in two years. 14th gen will mean a future upgrade will require a new board. But I don't really think there is a wrong option there either.
@md.monirulislam277510 ай бұрын
If " a750 and rtx 3050 is the same prize..which one is good choice considering cuda cores, driver optimization,future supports etc. I will do graphics disign using photoshop,illustrator,maya,blender,3ds max...Thanks.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
3050 is by far the safer choice. But if you can get a higher end Nvidia card I would definitely try to do so.
@sarata_777910 ай бұрын
Does it make sense to run 14900K with DDR4 (64 GB,4x16, 3600 C 16)?
@InnocentiusLacrimosa10 ай бұрын
Yeah, RAM has an impact, but you can still run DDR4 on these and not lose a huge deal. That particular DDR4 is pretty average though so maybe you can try tuning it a bit.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I really don't know, not sure I'll test that combination any time soon :D
@TheManXL10 ай бұрын
Greetings from Belgium. Nice review. The cost per kwh is very useful:)
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jasonluvisi4 ай бұрын
Power cost really isn't the biggest concern where I live... it's the heat. X3D chips getting the same or better performance but also being 10-15C cooler when gaming is why my boys are running AMD. Performance per degree Celsius is my biggest concern with multiple gaming systems in the same room here in AZ.
@antoniohagopian21310 ай бұрын
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@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
😅
@johnnydoe360310 ай бұрын
Love the Thumbnail 😂👍🏽
@coskunbayraktar617910 ай бұрын
Yaptığınız inceleme için çok teşekkür ederiz. Türkiye'den selam gönderiyorum. 👏
@vio36679 ай бұрын
👋
@DJaquithFL10 ай бұрын
All Intel needed to do was to add some additional P-cores (10) and more Cache .. I mean how difficult could that have been? Essentially this is an i9-13900KS+ (+ 100MHz).
@DJaquithFL10 ай бұрын
8:23 .. 👍😎 love -that- all the chart(s) and WOW that was a lot of work with all those benchmark tests. Kudos 👏
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
It is an absolutely insane amount of work, but happy to do it and happier to see it's appreciated! Thank you.
@syncrod10 ай бұрын
So this is the same as that time they released incremental updates (7980XE -> 9980XE -> 10980XE)
@mgaming710 ай бұрын
If you were upgrading from 9700k what works you get. Price not an issue. 14900k or AMD 7950X3D?
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Buy depending on your use case / power cost. I think the 7950X3D is generally the way to go. Both are super fast, sometimes Intel a bit faster, sometimes AMD a bit faster, etc. But AMD runs so much more efficient and you need less of an overkill cooler. If you use your CPU for work and gaming a lot, AMD makes sense imho. But if you use your PC all day every day for light work, and then only game / do heavy work a little bit, Intel will make more sense. Either way you're in for a big upgrade :)
@xPhantomxify10 ай бұрын
Interessant om te zien dat de i9-14900K niet heel erg verschilt van de i9-13900K in gaming performance, maar qua power consumption wel aanzienlijk groter is. Ik ben benieuwd naar je i5 14600K review, want ik zat eraan te denken om een i5 13600K CPU te kopen, maar aangezien nu de 14th-gen Intel CPUs zijn aangekomen, ben ik benieuwd naar de verschillen. Mijn huidige CPU is een i5 6600K, dus tijd om te upgraden, haha.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Soon! 😅
@osardegozar258110 ай бұрын
Actually, you can reduce maximum power consumption significantly without losing performance by approriately adjusting LLC and AC/DC loadline. If you do so, 12900K, 13900K, and 14900K turn into efficient CPUs for light and moderately demanding tasks owing to their number of e-cores.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
You can definitely tweak them for improvements, might be something for follow up content. But 10nm Intel won't magically outperform 5nm TSMC/AMD in terms of efficiency.
@osardegozar25819 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters I agree. That's certainly correct at such a general level, and I was not contesting such a general statement in any way. I qualified situations/use cases where 12/3/4900K can become efficient. Let me elaborate what I suggested a bit more: a voltage curve tuned 12/3/4900K can be efficient in such a situation as processing light-load tasks in the foreground and processing moderate or somewhat heavier tasks in the background, leaving them to e-cores. For instance, you may work on a WORD document while converting your PPT slide into an .mp4 file in the background. You may browse the web while running an app in the background that performs demanding calculation on data constantly received from an external source.
@EpicListening710 ай бұрын
Why the 7800x3d is missing from the list?
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Can't test this many games on 3 resolutions and then do a ton of CPUs as well. Get subscribed to not miss the i7/r7 followup soon-ish.
@squidigin95158 ай бұрын
Wait, higher resolution = less power use? How does that work?
@TechTesters8 ай бұрын
More GPU limited / lower fps at higher resolutions = less CPU use
@squidigin95158 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters ooooh I see
@moomoo553710 ай бұрын
Why not 7800X3D as the best gaming CPU?
@lelouchabrilvelda179410 ай бұрын
If you add the fastest GAMING CPU 7800x3d The 14 gen are not selling well. And become a useless cpu on the market.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I decided to go for a lot of games, you can't do lots of games and lots of CPUs. 7800X3D and 14700K will go through the tests in the coming days, so make sure you're subscribed for those future updates.
@semtexxl402310 ай бұрын
@TechTesters Honestly, I don't see much value in doing this, sorry. HW unboxed correctly showed comparison between the 7800X3D and 14900K for gaming right away and as expected the 7800X3D is faster. 14700 will not change anything. Intel CPUs are not CCD based. I think at least not showing that comparison right away you are doing Intel a favour.
@Matlockization9 ай бұрын
Your charts don't show colour bar identification. Although, power draw on idle was something I didn't know.
@azxtra83818 ай бұрын
Techtesters, as always, thanks for your detailed honesty and helpfulness.
@NihilistSolitude6 ай бұрын
Processor work wonders on ck3 used to take 5 minutes to load now it under 30 seconds with over 100 mods
@devonmoreau10 ай бұрын
Great review!
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@sweeleangloh10 ай бұрын
Nice, another truthful review!🤓👍
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👊
@brad40589 ай бұрын
I have a 13900KS and it also does 6 GHz out the box. What's the difference between this one and the KS?
@TechTesters9 ай бұрын
Maybe 1% and slightly improved manufacturing quality. Maybe. Oh and maybe APO, but they're pretty quiet about that part atm.
@Aaron-zl5gq10 ай бұрын
Lower then expected % gains over typical previous gen refresh while also consuming more power that’s just insane
@xzx10 ай бұрын
Why are you testing modern processors in Windows 11 version 21H2, which today is not even supported by Microsoft and is considered outdated? In addition, in this version there were problems with the operation of Intel processors with E+P cores.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Oops. That’s a copy-paste oversight on the parts list, I’ll add the exact Windows version when I get back later but W11 was fully updated at the time the (re)tests started, so about 2 weeks ago.
@WiseGuy368310 ай бұрын
Really good, really thorough review. The power consumption part is a very good thing to point out. It's why I opted to go AMD as I use my PC mostly for gaming and art creation. All my light tasks, I use my laptop or phone for.
@MrDragos36010 ай бұрын
I say that the 14th gen is not an update option if you have the 12nd or 13rd gen. I see that you use an ASUS motherboard, have you disabled their AI Overclock ? I had mine on and it made the cpu draw up to 450W in very small bursts and push all P-cores to 5.8Ghz. After I have disabled it the max power draw doesn't go over 300W at all and it's cooler. I use the system for software development, mostly Electron apps. Soon I will get a 4070ti and will try some games, I am really curios how much power will it draw at 3440x1440.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Definitely not an upgrade worth spending a lot on, only if you're on older stuff and need the upgrade. And we don't test with AI Overclock, it's not a default option and it'd just be another variable.
@MrDragos36010 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters My mobo, ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI, came with the AI OC enabled by default, had to disable it after I saw the high power usage and high temps
@greenbow788810 ай бұрын
Were those power consumption figures Intel figures, or did you leave Asus Muliticore Enhancement on? ... Asus Muliticore Enhancement boosts power above Intel power specs.
@vwmic3206 ай бұрын
So for flight simulator it’s better to buy AMD, correct ?
@roki9779 ай бұрын
With little Rysen undervolting Intel draws probably 3x times more in games. Its like having rtx 4070 in there but its only 14900k sucking ....
@ronm658510 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Thanks! :D
@kohta209 ай бұрын
This was the most positive and rational review of these CPUs! I agree that they should have called them 13th gen refresh with a different suffix letter. They are still good CPUs but compared to the previous they aren't the jump we expected. Best part about these CPUs releasing is they will make 13th gen cheaper!
@TechTesters9 ай бұрын
Not sure if it's "positive", but I'm glad you think it's rational :D
@kohta209 ай бұрын
compared to every other review I've seen this is crazy positive! @@TechTesters
@Alan-Dawson10 ай бұрын
So I just got a RTX 4090 second hand on Ebay and It's pretty crazy. Now my i7 9700k Is a bottle-neck at 1440p. Dilema... do I switch platforms my next upgrade?
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
You're definitely going to see a lot of gains with a current gen CPU versus a 9700K, in most games anyway. I still think Intel or AMD can make sense depending on your use / power cost / climate / et cetera. But AMD/AM5 does mean you can drop in a future CPU upgrade or two still.
@GustavoNoronha10 ай бұрын
The thing about APO is I very much doubt it's really a feature bound to the new CPUs. It is very likely a software solution that is only turned on for the new models to make people have at least one reason to buy them.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I'm 100% sure that is going to be the case.
@cracklingice10 ай бұрын
14th is definitely worse than 11th. Yes 11th lost 2 cores, but 10th couldn't even use the freaking M.2 slot on the boards because 10th gen had 16 PCIE lanes while 11th had 20 PCIE lanes. Although in a very frustrating intel move, both generations only support 3 devices as 11th gen and up supports 4x + (16x OR 8x + 8x) while 10th supported 0x + (16x OR 8x + 8x OR 8x + 4x +4x).
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
I forgot about that 10th gen SSD headache, jeez. Still think the CPUs themselves were generally the better gen though.
@DatAsuna10 ай бұрын
It's kinda crazy that the difference in power consumption between this, and say, going just 1 tier down to the second most expensive AMD could be most of the cost of your next future cpu upgrade if you live in europe.
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Pretty much. Lower tier CPUs are up next ;)
@paulsuyosa374610 ай бұрын
I have an I5 13400f. should I upgrade to I514400f? will it be worth it or just buy a better GPU (currently running on RX6600)
@TechTesters9 ай бұрын
Your money will be better spent on a GPU upgrade than a 13400f -> 14400f "upgrade"
@paulsuyosa37469 ай бұрын
@@TechTesters Thanks will do !
@volcalstone10 ай бұрын
Thanks for including higher res as most people will not be gaming on 1080p especially with a 4090. I went with a 13900K a few months ago as I knew the 14th gen wasn't going to be much of a change and will be at a higher price as well. Intel isn't going to discount the 13th gen that much as that will alienate their 14th gen CPUs which would be a nightmare for them. I wanted to initially go with a 7800X3D or 7950X3D but I wanted to run faster DDR5 ram speeds. AMD was having issues with their RAM this year as well so I just didn't want to deal with it even though I like their lower power usage vs Intel which I'm not a fan of. It was just a little more to get a 13900K for me over the 7800X3D and when you balance out the higher cost of the M/B + RAM overall for AMD it was around $75 more to go Intel. The 7950X3D is a much more expensive CPU and I didn't want to pay that much to have less gaming performance than the 7800X3D.
@Cornholio_X10 ай бұрын
I was already disappointed before 14th gen has launched. The 14th gen should be Meteor Lake for desktop, not Raptor Lake Refresh but it was canceled due to problems. If it was Meteor Lake, i would have upgrade my pc. I can wait for another year to upgrade. Hopefully the 15th gen (Arrow Lake) has a better, efficient cpu than this but also rumored it has no Hyperthreading anymore but who knows?
@TechTesters10 ай бұрын
Time will tell, but they really need something good next year.
@ricardoelectronicsrepair9 ай бұрын
it simply because their doesnt have capacity yet, the only fab intel have on node 4 and 3 is in finland that just ramp up the mass productions for meteor lake (intel4) laptop and granite rapids (intel 3) for server. next year, there is 2 new fab on arizona schedule for next year on intel 20a(2nm) for arrow lake.