Saw X SPOILER REVIEW (Post Credit Scene & Sequel Theories)

[@tmarie69]

It’s crazy how they never thought to make John Kramer the main character for the entire film. It makes so much sense.

[@oldmedstudent1750]

he literally is the main character, wtf. The movie is literally called Saw (Jigsaw)

[@Will_Rules]

​@@oldmedstudent1750 In the first movie he's pretending to be dead for the whole movie In all the others we have the detectives who die pr that dad from SAW 3 when he dies. Then we have Hoffman and the apprentices. Then in Jigsaw he only appears in flashbacks

[@oldmedstudent1750]

@@Will_Rules false. In Saw 1 there are other scenes that show him, you just don't see who he is until the end because he has a robe over his head. He plays massive roles in Saw 2 and 3. He is the only consistent character throughout the entire franchise regardless of flashbacks.

[@Will_Rules]

@@oldmedstudent1750 yes but he is not the main character or protagonist. He's more of an antogonist in those movies

[@carztau]

@@oldmedstudent1750the whole selling point of this film, is that this is the first saw film with John as the PROTAGONIST!

[@datglobetrotterlife]

Most hilarious moments in the movie: 1) John saying he is like a ‘life coach’ 2) the creative way to get ‘rope’ 3) Cecilia’s head popping out of the gas room 🤣

[@Absolutelyn000t]

I loved seeing John try to explain his "hobby"

[@gsmm4717]

The rope😂

[@illaxx8448]

Mine is “You guys are fucking sick” 🤣

[@PanoramicView-o5p]

Yeah I kinda giggled like yeah you sure are a life coach all right 😂

[@brianagillustration]

did anyone else absolutely lose it at the little go pro shot of Billy delivering the medical supplies on his trike? it was accidentally funny/cute.

[@MsDarra]

That Hoffman cameo was for the OG Saw fans. I loved it.

[@BmanTheChamp]

I think we all did. I know I got hyped.

[@doperagu8471]

I literally squealed lol

[@TheAmazingAdam]

I was disappointed he was just in one scene. Waited 10 years just for Hoffman to be BACK....for a reveal mid credits scene lmao. I need a sequel where Hoffman is ALIVE. Maybe he was the one who picked up Eleanor at the end of Jigsaw and he's been training Logan about the role. Revealing how he survived Saw 7 since he is an escape artist.

[@BmanTheChamp]

@@TheAmazingAdam Well, they're not there in the timeline yet.

[@doperagu8471]

@BmanTheChamp well Eleanor isn't in the timeline but Logan is in the timeline at the point of Saw X, but I think he would he in the military at this point, so it's likely Hoffman and Amanda don't know he exists.

[@starfishsicko]

Saw's biggest mistake was killing John and Amanda in the same movie. This just showed how much chemistry these two actually have.

[@cngotham4111]

True but trilogies was the thing back then.

[@DBlock_11x]

“Now everything is a franchise!” -Mindy in Scream VI lol

[@Stumme-40203]

Good thing Hollywood is running out of original ideas so they just throw sequels randomly in their franchises’ timelines.

[@swagman8011]

When Hoffman showed up in the end credits, my theater went insane and I'm hoping this gives us an idea for his future of the franchise, and he might get a prominent role in the next film like Amanda did in this film

[@mr.fartman]

WHATS BETTER; SAW OR TERRIFIER? 🤔

[@TAJP008]

Nah he's dead

[@ajieroumacapal8286]

@@mr.fartman terrifier is overrated. The looks is so ugly. The acting and actors are like from tv shows or youtube fan film, Its low budget. Cinematography is meh, art the clown is scary but is so over power that its become boring. I give the credit for gore but it look so fake unlike saw. Atleast its mid budget movie with good moral of protagonist/ antagonist and unique trap every film.

[@mr.fartman]

​@@ajieroumacapal8286I disagree

[@comatoasted82]

At the showing I was at the crowd was a 50/50 ghasp and owwww. It was cool. Not since the joker killing Murray had I been in a group where the whole theater was in a collected awe struct state

[@FoggyBadger]

When Gabriele had her neck broken, my theatre screamed, "NO!!". They made us actually care about one of the victims to the point where we cheered when she lived, and was sad when she was killed immediately after. As for the post credits... Biggest cheer of the movie. The second his face appeared, there was an explosion of cheers and applause.

[@joewas2225]

Yeah she seemed the most redeemable. I had a range of emotions going on. Wanted that doctor killed that moment.

[@DORAisD34D]

I wasn’t surprised when Hoffman appeared because this is a prequel after all, and we already knew that Hoffman and Amanda were working with Jigsaw at the same time

[@PanoramicView-o5p]

@@joewas2225yeah I felt so mad the doctor killed her

[@mccarko]

I think Cecilia killing Gabriella works as maybe a catalyst for Amanda to start making unwinnable traps. She clearly felt for Gabriella and Cecilia might be the first victim in all the movies that truly looked unrehabilitable and undeserving of a fair game.

[@mistydolphin2524]

That actually makes a lot of sense, kudos.

[@kitelanford]

An arguement I can see exists like Amanda being that terrified and finding out some of these guys are THAT ruthless to start with... perhaps that arguement is there that Amanda's emotions boiled up and well, doesn't take much to create seemly unwinnable traps... It's also a discussion that Amanda and John have about it... the game must go on indeed

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Poor Gabriela 💔 and yeah Cecilia is a piece of work, either pure evil or near pure evil with a ruthless will to live, kinda like Hoffman

[@justadude1477]

I think her making the girl go third showed that the test have some varying degrees of difficulty built-in

[@brandontsosie4514]

Her and the drug dealer in the third are two who truly make her see they jeed to rigg traps

[@nicloren2220]

the empathy i felt for him was actually insane he almost made me cry man. he showed his emotions and showed how he is vulnerable, how he is human. sometimes it is hard to forget that. but this showed his humanity and it didn’t do so in a way that tried to redeem him which is rare

[@Weej_LR]

every 3 minute trap in the movie is 3 minutes in real time. for matteo’s trap he said on the tape not to waste time, and he wasted nearly a full minute at the start refusing to do it. love the attention to detail on the clock by the creators

[@emmadc4008]

same with valentina's trap. she ended up doing what she was meant to but wasted time at the start.

[@DarkBaptism]

It's funny you mention that. Cuz I believe people hated in previous movies where they give the people in the trap like 3-5 mins and it feels like the waste most of the time before starting to play the game and it's like time isn't moving at all. I'm glad it's in real time on Saw X.

[@joewas2225]

I'm going to time it tonight & actually see. My 1st watch, I just wanted to enjoy it. Which I enjoyed it far more than I thought I would.

[@gilsonaburto1774]

@@joewas2225did you time it?

[@joewas2225]

@@gilsonaburto1774 Yep. The 1st trap wasn't even a minute. Diego was under 3 min. Valentina & Mateo was 3:16.

[@SamToseski]

There was also a detail I loved in this film. (Spoiler) When they removed Valentina’s intestine, Amanda was not disgusted picking it up & throwing it away.. Because for her test, she had to dig through her cellmate’s intestines to find a key. Kevin knows what he’s doing! 😃

[@platanous]

Is that really why she wasn't disgusted? I feel like by now she'd be desensitized anyway to all body parts.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Yeah she had grown callous to that and just tossed aside the intestines like it was nothing.

[@KJCK4]

The beginning definitely had me almost shed a tear just the look on his face when he believed he would be cured got me and that had me ready for these people to be tested

[@DemetriusGamez]

I feel terrible for Gabriela. Breaking her hand and foot, suffering from radiation burns, winning her trap, just to get killed by the doc. And I also feel like Kramer should have let Valentina slide. She sawed off her leg and almost got the amount of marrow she needed, he honestly should’ve stopped the machine but it is what it is.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

It's funny how I was telling my kids John should have given Valentina an extension on the deadline lol. She just needed a few more seconds

[@AyKrax]

Nah he told Mateo & Valentina don't hesitate & they both wasted almost a full minute & they were both less than 10 seconds away from surviving. This means John actually gave them more than enough time to survive but they just didn't listen.

[@DemetriusGamez]

@@AyKrax fair point

[@waveeyes]

To me Amanda was easily the best part of the movie. Both for her dynamic with John, and for how her personality here contrasts with 3 in which she doesn't think anyone deserves a chance for redemption.

[@doperagu8471]

Totally. It was great seeing her still have hope in John's "methods" - but I also loved how you can see her starting to doubt based on what happens in this game. Doubting that people can't be "saved." Also this biatch Pedersen deserved John's punishment more than anyone in his games. She was crazier than Jigsaw himself.

[@IWTBF]

It just felt like a SAW movie for the sake of it… The ending was poor. And it didn’t really tie in to any of the other SAW films. Good movie but felt let down how it didn’t tie in. 😢

[@gabrielelatorre22]

​@@IWTBFÈ un prequel, senza offesa, cosa minchia volevi sapere?😂

[@onlychild5213]

It would be great if they retconned the whole franchise and continue with this route I felt saw x was the 3rd best

[@ollehkacb]

​@@IWTBFwell technically this was mentioned in one of the films. He mentioned that he had found an alternative treatment.

[@RobertMere]

My theatre went nuts when Hoffman returned! The first time I’ve seen that kind of reaction for a horror movie in theatres

[@AnnaF33]

In my theatre people left😂 and remain only few and nobody cheering 😢

[@oldmedstudent1750]

@@AnnaF33 same. Half the people left before the scene, those who stayed didn't react to it. I was the only die hard in there.

[@BrandonCote-ei3rq]

​@@AnnaF33same here

[@wood1066]

​@AnnaF33 same except most people in my theater stayed, but nobody cheered.

[@AnnaF33]

@@oldmedstudent1750 same😂

[@MichaelPotter-rw6do]

I’ve been hearing everyone say that the ending trap was meant for John and Amanda, but what I took away from the “one way or another” line was that the blood-boarding trap was meant for Cecilia and Parker and the gas trap was just a plan b if they escaped. I don’t think the movie ever implied it was meant for John and Amanda. Even the trap itself is based on selfishness like the gas trap, because I would assume Cecilia and Parker would each try to blood-board each other to live. Just a thought.

[@nick22gamer]

I agree the concept of the trap fits Cecilia and Parker and the fact that when their life was on the line they would turn on eachother in an instant

[@rocketsfan6116]

I'm slightly confused and uncertain about this detail, even after seeing it three times.

[@oldmedstudent1750]

You're wrong because that's why the shackles had hand releases in them. They were designed to be released by the people wearing them. Also if it was designed for Cecilia and Parker, then John wouldn't have released Parker from his chains. There was also no cassette tape for that trap.

[@DrinkMoreCoffee]

Respect

[@brandonfoley6826]

​@@oldmedstudent1750Came to type exactly what this guy said, looks like I don't need to. It doesn't make any sense for the bloodboarding trap to be for anyone but John and Amanda... but honestly it doesn't make that much sense regardless.

[@BrabyTheCool177]

18:45 its funny cause when the credits started rolling lots of people were getting up to leave so i purposely said to my brother out loud "Hey lets stay for the end credit scene!" and people started to slow down and were looking at the screen lol

[@gazza1196]

I was one of them.feel a right idiot..I’m going back to see it tomorrow afternoon followed by the creator.gonna be great day.

[@Agirlnamedmikee]

Lol I said loudly "I Googled it! There's a post credit scene!!!!!" Everyone came back and waited 😂

[@BrabyTheCool177]

@@Agirlnamedmikee smart! 😂

[@blueturret5596]

I was honestly on the verge of checking out of the Saw series after I was left feeling disappointed by Spiral. But, Saw X brought back my interest in spades. Easily the best Saw movie since 1 and 2. I was genuinely shocked by how much character development was given to both John Kramer and Amanda.

[@mr.fartman]

WHATS BETTER; SAW OR NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET? 🤔

[@qwertyzillaofficial2969]

@@mr.fartmanThey have like nothing in common

[@ijionclifton9148]

Spiral was good tho

[@SpursBackOnTop]

​@@mr.fartmanthats not comparable but Mike and Jason run slasher genre

[@FaceFamous]

​@@SpursBackOnTop Love Mike Myers ..but Art the Clown ( All Hollows Eve ,Terrifier 1 and 2 ) is the go to now😂

[@ConnerTheWaffle]

I think this is the best route to go with the series at this point Sweet grandpa John Kramer and his quirky adopted daughter Amanda putting terrible people in traps lol

[@MaceDeMarco2010]

I agree!

[@theimmortalrain867]

Retcon Saw 3 and let’s get this. XD

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

We need to see John, Amanda, and Hoffman working together in Saw 11 and putting Cecilia in another game because she just won't learn.

[@tumbletooter9331]

Cecilia told Valentina the wrong way to use the saw, and she told Gabriella to do the leg first on purpose. She was sabotaging them.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

That is a cool detail that plays into the fact that Cecilia knew all along she was scamming Jigsaw- she WANTED John Kramer to go after her so he would kill off her accomplices and she and her money could get away with the money scott free. In fact you can even notice in Cecilia's board of victims, she rather noticeably undercharged John, only charging him $250K instead of her usual $450K.

[@chunli1758]

how were you supposed to use the saw? also i think it would be safe to assume she didnt anticipate the radiation canon thing moving after gabby so i think it made sense for her to say that there

[@mauricey4477]

Na that’s not true she was genuinely helping Gabriella as she would swing away from the machine when he leg was free

[@tumbletooter9331]

@@chunli1758 You tie the saw around the leg like a bow and do it all in one shot. It would take all of 15 seconds max when done properly.

[@tumbletooter9331]

@@mauricey4477 she would have dropped a lot sooner if she did her hand first. Also assuming the cannon would follow down that low, she could just kinda run around and dodge it. It makes much more sense to do the hand first.

[@GP15Connoisseur]

Saw X blew me away. It is officially one of my favorite Saw movies. While amazing, my only gripe is not seeing the eye vacuum trap in reality and Cecilia not dying… …which gave me an idea. Cecilia is the perfect candidate for the eye vacuum trap. Here’s why: - She’s shown John that she has a sickness inside her that “needs to be exiled”. - She has “sticky fingers”, stealing people’s money and accomplices’ lives. - She should also be given 30 seconds to break her fingers. Since she showed no hesitation fucking with John’s game or killing Gabriela and Patrick, she hopefully shouldnt show reluctance to break her fingers. - Unlike the dream sequence, I think Cecilia’s eye vacuum should be way more powerful. Not just removing her eyes, but large chunks of her brain too. In my headcanon, she chickens out like the custodian and dies. >:)

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

I think they left Cecilia alive to continue the story and kill her off in the next movie. So that possibility makes me be fine with her surviving for now.

[@midnightshadowrose-x8q]

Here's a theory for the next Saw movie that could also show Amanda's descent into thinking people can't be rehabilitated. Maybe Celcillia comes back and either A starts up a new scam under a new name showing she hasn't been rehabilitated or B tries to go after John again showing she hasn't truly learned her lesson. Heck why not do both? That way it explains her being super protective of John and it could show why she thinks that traps don't rehabilitate any more because the doctor is up to her old tricks.

[@3CFilms]

Great idea!

[@oldmedstudent1750]

I doubt Cecilia goes after John, but rather she just keeps on scamming and Amanda finds out and ends up putting Cecilia is an unwinnable trap because she thinks John's methods don't work.

[@midnightshadowrose-x8q]

@oldmedstudent1750 I'm definitely thinking she will start up another scam. The money was too good and important to her. John would learn about it because Hoffman could be keeping tabs on her. I think she might go after John for a couple of reasons. 1 is she is a very vindictive woman. She lost a lot of money and could've died in that trap. 2 is John is a loose thread. He knows too much about her past scam and can put her newest scam at risk. The third reason is what a great way for the hunter to become the hunted in a way sort of. Not to mention Amanda would be protective of John as well if he was put in that kind of situation. Shows more of a human angle of John as well, like a vulnerable side possibly.

[@Will_Rules]

​@@3CFilms "Out of all the men to cheat. You chose John Kramer" Will now live rent free in my head

[@Loch1210]

What makes you think she survives? Pretty sure he locked her in that room and building.She can’t even take her head out of that hole.It’s game over.I wish he said that

[@MissClickKatie]

The fact that i was genuinely heartbroken for Amanda with the Gabriella arc IS INSANE because i know what Amanda goes on to do in future movies :') Such an incredibly well done movie and honestly possibly my new favourite addition to the franchise

[@raymondfelicianorodriguez7806]

Yes! I was thinking the same about Carlos, especially since they said the ending will hint as to where the series could go next. The Battle of the Apprentices would be the best way (imo) to warp up the franchise.

[@raymondfelicianorodriguez7806]

Wrap*

[@chloroformxgirl]

well isn’t Mark and Amanda dead by now? The only one left would be Gordon, right?

[@richbandicoot]

@@chloroformxgirllogan

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

​@@chloroformxgirlwell Saw 11 can take place after this movie but before Saw 3 in the timeline.

[@edwardosquidawardo]

This was my first Saw movie in theaters. I’m excited for the next one, and can’t wait to see what they do next!

[@narukamizanagi8645]

I tried to bring the hype to the theatre when Hoffman appeared by shouting “WOOO” and it worked 😂 I too thought that the leg trap was insane and got a little angry that they died seconds before surviving. I was very pleased with this movie!

[@mr.fartman]

QUICK QUESTION: WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE HORROR MOVIE? 🤔

[@narukamizanagi8645]

@@mr.fartman Hmmm i think i would go with The Thing or Hereditary. This may be recency bias but dammit Saw X was that good so i’d have to put it up there too!

[@doperagu8471]

​@@narukamizanagi8645we must have the same taste in movies bc the thing and hereditary are 2 of my favorites as well. Also the original Halloween.

[@DORAisD34D]

I wasn’t surprised when Hoffman appeared because this is a prequel after all, and we already knew that Hoffman and Amanda were working with Jigsaw at the same time

[@adrienhughes6830]

Amanda was definitely my favorite apprentice. I was so happy to see her back, and to see more of her and John interacting.

[@FeRu.Raprodukcja]

You made mistake with Valentina trap: she had to suck her bone marrow from her femur bone not blood....This was the best and the most brutal trap in the movie with awesome realistic gore. Mateo trap was great also but his dead wasn't that great imo. Eye vaccum trap was great and I like that it was in John's head, expanding and showing Johns thinking process.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Thing is, she didn't NEED to cut her whole leg off- she just needed to reach the bone to suck the marrow out. Cutting the whole leg was a waste of time.

[@nick22gamer]

The practical effects in this movie were just incredible

[@IWTBF]

Yeah the wire threw the leg was intense

[@Icykrissy]

The eye trap had me swallowing my vomit!!! I almost walked out after it and I’ve seen all the SAWs since I was a kid!!! What a fucking intro

[@petempressorpethog4587]

​@@IcykrissyWeak lol

[@tyyoegel7373]

the thing that was so good about the pipe bomb trap is that it was so simple, but executed so well. the pacing and choreography of the whole thing was really good

[@kingdarrellthell]

That was actually a pretty good trap

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Your theory about Cecilia being the big bad wanting revenge on Jigsaw is really interesting. She was definitely shown as the one Saw victim that ‘breaks him’ like an arch nemesis. She is something else. The fact she was played by a Norwegian actress is chef’s kiss 😘 A villain that’s kinda badass that you love to hate. Poor Gabriela though they made her most likable out of all the characters reminds me of Anika from Scream 6 a character with limited screentime but everyone just loves and are sad when she died. 😢

[@scholageemusic9373]

Jigsaw predicted Ceclias move so it's pointless thinking she broke him lol

[@Jonesyyy12]

She didn’t break him though……😂

[@IWTBF]

It just felt like a SAW movie for the sake of it… The ending was poor. And it didn’t really tie in to any of the other SAW films. Good movie but felt let down how it didn’t tie in. 😢

[@scholageemusic9373]

@@IWTBF the movie was trash PERIOD

[@IWTBF]

the part Cecilia cut open Valentina and used her intestines for a ‘rope’ was a tad far fetched for even SAW if I must say so… ?

[@clintiacuone1703]

I really enjoyed the direction they took in this movie! Only thing albeit a petty thing I disliked is when billy rode out and we didn’t get the iconic laugh

[@Spartan87667]

That’s very true. We never got the laugh in this one, and that’s iconic in the series.

[@clintiacuone1703]

@@Spartan87667 it doesn’t seem like much and they did so well getting this one back to the roots of how the first couple of movies felt but the laugh would’ve been the icing on the cake!

[@marwan4358]

Very true!@@clintiacuone1703

[@padtrickkeys3261]

True, This Movie Made Me Feel Really bad for John Kramer And I still feel Bad And the Twist At The End Was Nice and the Hoffman Cameo was Great 👍 7.5/10

[@Stefan_Gerards]

the gigli saw trap had me wincing so hard, dude.. i'm okay with seeing a foot amputation like in the original, but seeing an entire leg getting amputated i just can't 😭 hoping they make another one set between 2 and 3 with both Amanda and Hoffman helping John!

[@oldmedstudent1750]

Yeah I watched it in the theater last night, and that was the only trap that had my stomach turning a little bit. I had to stop eating my chicken tendies for around 20 minutes.

[@sammitchell3657]

The bone marrow was disgusting

[@oldmedstudent1750]

@@sammitchell3657 I have watched all 9 Saw movies prior and this is the only time I ever felt like I might vomit.

[@galacticspecter4364]

I think they set up a really interesting sequel by having Cecelia survive to the end. She’s actually very crafty and manipulative throughout Saw X and is a great character foil for Jigsaw go up against.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Exactly, perfect protagonist or in this case antagonist for John because in this movie John was actually the empathetic character we were all rooting for. Cecilia meanwhile had no morals, was conniving, and a worthy foe for John.

[@therealfrankielou9027]

I remember when the first saw movie came out me and my dad went to see it... so goin to see saw x this weekend with my teenage son was the most meaningful part to me

[@SuperAz1981]

Bringing in Dr Gordon would actually make sense he has been working with Jigsaw since Saw 2 providing surgical expertise in his traps so having Gordon come back to help deal with another psycho Dr only makes sense

[@Will_Rules]

Saw 2 was the first time we saw him do something on camera. Technically he had been working with John since the ending of Saw 1

[@ThePilleroflightning]

He started working with John sometime after the ending of Saw 1. Though he was likely recovering in this time frame

[@bethberry7599]

Love the theories! I am a Saw Fan and I absolutely loved this movie! I felt for John Kramer so much it is ridiculous! I am here for Saw 11 bring it on! Carlos being an apprentice is Genius!

[@dklounge7082]

I like how the whole cancer treatment was the same treatment John wanted to get coverage from William Easton from Saw VI

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

Makes you wonder if William Easton knows it is a scam and wants to ‘protect/warn’ John from it in his own way

[@yeeeaaahmayneee3808]

@@Nicholas_Chen_he doesn’t for sure because apparently real doctor cures people in Norway which is Cecilia’s father,and conversation between John and William is about doctor in Norway

[@DarkBaptism]

I would like to think the only reason he needed the insurance to cover the surgery in Norway was becuz he lost all his money on Cecilia's scam. But the fact that he got all the money back in the end and gave it to Carlos blows my mind. He could have taken his initial $250k back and paid for the surgery in Norway the entire time. It seems like a plot hole to me.

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

@@DarkBaptism I think the conversation in Saw VI happened before Saw X.

[@delandaedwards9133]

John had money and LOTS of it. He wanted to use his insurance since he had been paying for it. Easton told him that if he sought treatment elsewhere, he would be dropped from his medical coverage completely.

[@Feenucks]

I love your idea with Carlos. Gordon, William, Logan and (maybe) Hoffman are all still alive. Carlos putting the four of them in a game would be brilliant. I’d like to see Saw 11 be between 2 & 3/4 with Cecilia coming back for revenge and finally dying, and then Saw 12 be present day with Carlos killing the other remaining apprentices to wrap up the franchise. Maybe we can get a streaming series or something afterwards where each season is a new set of detectives investigating a copycat who isn’t directly related to John (since Spiral made it clear that there have been several unrelated copycats since John died).

[@kierangraham1845]

When Hoffman showed up, there were a few "YEEEESSSS" in my audience. And I will admit, I was one of them. Great movie. I don't know if I like it more than Saw 2 or 6, but I think it comfortablly goes in at 3 for now.

[@PandaHead602]

Ppl for sure had to of cheered and applause

[@AngelFlayme]

If and when there is a Saw 11 (that will most likely be a prequel movie to fill in gaps for the franchise while still being "new" enough for non Saw fans), I hope that Celia gets a proper trap and hopefully one made by Amanda since Celia is a prime example of people not being "rehabilitated". I personally was not satisfied with her just hanging out and being left there. Maybe she'll be one the first victims of the infamous unwinable Amanda traps.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Agreed. I think they left Cecilia alive for this very reason. To possibly continue the story. She won't be "rehabilitated" and should find herself in another game where she dies.

[@cngotham4111]

If she doesn't get killed I'd be pissed.

[@JackSkellington__]

@@cngotham4111if she doesn’t die in the next one I’m so done. She was so evil bruh

[@heresjay6493]

saw the film last night. i will admit im not a HUGE fan of saw movies. but seeing saw x really made me appreciate the series 😭 amazing film

[@mikemullen472]

You're description is perfect. I loved it. Saw it last night.

[@jamespope7669]

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[@Everything_E117]

When John asked for help from the detective the theater went nuts

[@Icykrissy]

SAME AHAHAHAHA We just all knew which detective he was calling

[@Everything_E117]

@Icykrissy felt just as important as Andrew Garfield coming though the portal😅

[@tinksmith4964]

I genuinely fell asleep in the early to mid half for 20 minutes of this film, and it still made total sense... AND was probably one of the best saw film

[@DeadpoolAnimate]

Honestly it would be cool if Saw XI focused on John and Mark’s relationship similar to John and Amanda’s

[@thebacon3169]

Glad to see your audience was full of fans of the series, my theatre clapped so hard at the end it was an awesome experience

[@deaddogelmo]

Amanda also kind of killed Gabriella because of she went through her trial before Matteo they could have brought her to a hospital without Cecelia stomping on her

[@noahw7373]

That's very true

[@obitwokenobi9808]

The scene where John throws away his plans for next trap is so damn powerful. You can tell, early in his career as Jigsaw, John had some doubts about the dark road he was heading down and had the procedure been legit, there would've been no more jigsaw. But the tragedy is is that we know that can't happen. So heartbreaking.

[@dreamalitymangacreator5891]

Me and my buddy watched it in theaters I dressed as Billy the puppet and he went as the pig and we had pretty accurate/ expensive outfits and people flipped when they saw us and we got so many pictures and comments it was a fun day. And when Hoffman came at the end I lost it. This movie was fire for sure

[@homegrownhorror8465]

Hoffman’s manipulation and the beating she took from Eric would make anybody cold-blooded. Anyway, I love these reviews. Great video as always!

[@brandonbaka1375]

Was just browsing KZbin for a nice quality Spoiler Review of the movie and after accepting my fate I would may have had to wait another day or so for one, you come through with the hook up

[@mr.fartman]

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE HORROR MOVIE?

[@roquendroll]

Amanda might have started making unwinnable traps because of Cecilia killing Gabriella and putting John and ____ in the trap. To her, Cecilia is irredeemable.

[@yashee3421]

Thats acc a very good idea about the saw x sequel. And yes i would absolutely love to see a continuation to this story and to see costas mandylor back as hoffman playing a much bigger role. I feel like we need to see more hoffman amanda interactions that led to their sour rivalry and also the downfall of amanda after the nerve gas house game. Sadly after this i dont see much potential for future saw sequels. But I'll be honest 1-4 are the stories and continuity that people care about the most.

[@3CFilms]

Agreed

[@grahamburdick]

awesome review Chris! glad you enjoyed it. the first time I tried seeing this the leg trap gave the guy in front of me a heart attack and they had to stop the movie. crazy times in NYC this weekend

[@sidtheviciouscritic7292]

I just got out of the theater and I was hyped when Hello Zep played and when Hoffman came back with the coldest line of the film!

[@gogicore]

When the theme played I went wild

[@noahw7373]

Some "epic bad luck "

[@maze_58]

I think for the next one, the best way to explain Amanda’s descent into making unwinnable traps would be to use the hate she has shown toward Cecilia in the movie as a catalyst to use with Hoffman influence. Kramer wouldn't want to kill Cecilia because it's not how he plays. We know Hoffman is not scared to kill criminals with unwinnable traps, as he did before he was found by Jigsaw. Amanda would be torn between Jigsaw ideologies and the satisfaction of killing her. So when she would come back in the next movie not rehabilitated and wanting revenge, after some trials and error, Amanda would snap and Cecilia would become the first victim of an unwinnable trap. It would close the gap between saw x and the rest of the series and explain in a simple way how her views changed!

[@The3moFrankie]

I saw it yesterday before work and it totally made my day better I’m hoping we get more prequels and btw great video

[@mr.fartman]

WHATS BETTER; SAW OR TERRIFIER? 🤔

[@anubusx]

Saw.

[@brannondunlap3408]

Ok as much as im burnt out on Jigsaw apprentices, the Carlos Finale sounds amazing. In my opinion, because of the trap, he saw John in a different light than any of the apprentices. In a weird way, they share a bond.

[@dyshawnshine3644]

😂I had a good laugh when the couple were fighting for air at the end. She slammed dudes head on the table.

[@Travelbug71]

My laugh was when John told Carlos 'lets get you home.' I turned to my husband and said 'like that?? he's going to walk into his house covered in blood with a bag of money?' For some reason that made me giggle.

[@yourenotthatguy7051]

Yeah I agree. The next imo should explore more of Hoffman's involvement. Because out of all the characters he was actually a beloved one.

[@lewiss626]

The only time i had to look away was valentines leg saw trap. I genuinely couldn't look. I haven't looked away from a saw film since the needle pit trap in saw 2. Overall i think its a really good movie well done to all the team.

[@Ronyron3053]

I love the fact how Sax X ties in with Saw 3 with Amanda not wanting to let the collar of the doctor. And also when Amanda mentioned she was a murder and John said I despise murders, because of Saw X and what he saw.

[@bryanhernadezbarrera5588]

Carlos as the ultimate apprentice is just perfect to close the saw saga.

[@ThePilleroflightning]

Nah. Although I didn’t mind Logan and loved William Schenk, most people’s criticisms of Jigsaw and Spiral is with all of these new apprentices. Which would be hypocritical to then make Carlos one after a timeskip if that’s the main complaint.

[@ankitdas6620]

You forgot the Mexican cab driver

[@DORAisD34D]

@@ankitdas6620he is just a survivor

[@earthtones33]

​@@ankitdas6620Why is every saw survivor an apprentice now lmfao

[@graciemckenna8283]

Watched this last night at the movies and when I viewed this video last night after coming home I learned a few things that didn’t click in my head when watching the movie great video this is 👍🏻

[@Coophack6584]

I love that the Hideout room was a trap. You mean to tell me John and Amanda sat there the whole time 🤯

[@mr.fartman]

QUICK QUESTION: WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE HORROR MOVIE? 🤔

[@arianapadilla9351]

Saw it on Thursday, just got back from seeing it a second time. On Thursday my theater had less than 10 people, but a good 4 or 5 of us clapped and "woo"d when Hoffman showed up at the end!! I was so excited man

[@marcovandemale3801]

Was i the only one that didnt fully understand how the doctor knew that John was jigsaw? Like by that time was it public knowledge? Like john wouldve been arrested at the airport or something, other wise than that i freaking loved the movie and im happy to see so many people agree on that, hoping for a new movie🙏🏻

[@Justadrie44]

Jigsaws face was never revealed to the public up until saw 4 when he died. This takes place after the events of saw 1

[@marcovandemale3801]

@@Justadrie44 okay i knew i wasnt crazy lol thats really one of the only problems i had in the movie cause she straight up say jigsaw to his face and said she knew from the start

[@ashvsthestupiddead.7436]

@@marcovandemale3801 its probably cause when she was put in the trap seen billy and stuff ect its pretty obvious his jigsaw i mean she fucking seen the puppet on the news or paper probably cause jigsaw is known to the public just not his identity

[@joeschultz1681]

Hahaha I thought I was following everything until she threw in that line…I was like crap what did I miss now

[@ThePilleroflightning]

@@ashvsthestupiddead.7436I’m not 100% certain but I’m pretty sure Cecelia mentioned that she ALWAYS knew John was Jigsaw even before the treatment. She likely did that so she could get rid of her associates and get all the money for herself.

[@coolteen64]

I think it can make the saw franchise connect beautifully if they make Carlos turn out to be william from spiral , having Hoffman put him into protective custody after the events of this film, giving a lot more insight and reasoning as to why william had access to jigsaws engineering talents especially considering how close Mexico and California are to each other!

[@kingdarrellthell]

Man that would be nice it would make spiral towards the top of the franchise

[@giovannivalentin1951]

My mom figured out the black guy was in on it and we went crazy when Hoffman showed up cause man this movie was awesome we loved every sec and was hiding our faces 😂

[@marklouis1890]

Dude it was sick and twisted seeing Carlos in a jigsaw trap. I did not expect that I was hoping I'm praying he would survive

[@reputation8383]

Great spoiler review! I watched Saw X today, and absolutely loved it. One thing: I never thought the blood seesaw trap was deaigned for John and Amanda. I thought it was designed for Cecilia and Parker, with the gas trap room as a back up, just in case. Parker pponts out that if Cecilia was meant to be the last survivor, why was her trap a two-perspn trap. Just my thoughts, anyway. Great review as always, i hope we continue to talk about Saw X for some time to come.

[@joewas2225]

It was NOT designed for John & Amanda.

[@reputation8383]

@joewas2225 Yes that's what I thought too.

[@IWTBF]

@@joewas2225who was it designed for then?

[@joewas2225]

@@IWTBF It's never specifically said in the movie but Cecilia for sure is one of the people it's for.

[@IWTBF]

@@joewas2225 but how? Who was the other side for?

[@Twellveslugg]

This movie was great I love all the small details and Easter eggs. Especially with the previous saw films. Hoffman being sly mentioned then showing up was definitely amazing

[@TheManDaniel84]

There were cheers in my movie theater last night for the return of Detective Hoffman in Saw X

[@TheManDaniel84]

Saw 11 will be Dr. Cecilia end I think she will die in the twist of Saw XI by Wait for it A returning Dr. Gordon

[@zac5865]

nice setup, really loving the killer klowns decorations!

[@kitelanford]

20:36 - An arguement is there for Cecilia's story to continue but could see Saw 11's starting bit being involving her somehow... or a feel of Carlos having his own "Book of Saw" film but that's more my weight... Perhaps learning her fate could be related to the Opening action this time? Who knows

[@DarthEqualizer]

Great idea alex, gave me a similar idea that can never happen: John puts every single of his apprentices in a massive room where they all have traps. A final trap to determine who would be the most worthy to continue his legacy. You get hoffman,amanda,logan,dr lawrence,willaim, and then you could also add other villains such as dr cecillie,zep,and jill tuck.

[@alexemersongallegos8037]

That would be epic !

[@julixnfr]

Hopefully this movie wins a grammy. from props to traps it’s truly amazing. huge w from production and set workers

[@mrclaydawg92]

Grammys are awarded for outstanding achievements in the music industry. Maybe i missed the point of ur comment and u meant the movie had a good musical score.

[@julixnfr]

@@mrclaydawg92 i meant an oscar. i’m really fuckin stupid

[@mrclaydawg92]

@@julixnfr don't trip haha. I'm glad u enjoyed the movie 👍

[@julixnfr]

@@mrclaydawg92 yup. thanks man

[@greenmonkey2995]

Dr. Cecilia could come back making her own game to "rehabilitate" people. Now John and his apprentice have to put a stop to her. 😅 Great video as always.

[@JimiJames92]

I can’t believe anyone was shocked with Hoffman appearing! The line he says was literally in the trailer 😅 great movie though. Did leave me feeling confused as it was SO different to what we expect from a saw movie

[@MsJackie-v5h]

Just watched it an hour ago, and I personally can say that I loved it!! Definitely kept me drawn in, acting was so good from John and his helper…this movie makes me want to binge watch the whole franchise again

[@deadshot7062]

Ngl when I saw Hoffmann I was like “wow they somehow made his de-aging look way better than Amanda’s”. Also I kind of believe that when Cecilia killed Gabriela may have started to push Amanda into believing no one can change.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Exactly, it was a turning point for her

[@OfficialJuniorr706]

I was the only one at my theatre who gasped when Hoffman showed up! And I went to a premiere night lol Saw X was definitely worth it!!!

[@lordsuian677]

I loved what John Kramer did at the end of the movie with the little boy. That was my all time favourite scene🥲

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

Honestly, I really only had two problems with it: 1. John didn’t say “Game Over” at the end. 2. (This one’s REALLY a nitpick) I’m getting sick of media portraying intestines incorrectly. Otherwise, I’d probably say this was my second-favorite one. It’s close, but it’s not beating Saw III for me.

[@IWTBF]

It was nice to see a soft and human side to John. Telling Carlos not to pull the lever and how he wanted to protect him. I was wondering what would happen and my ❤ sunk when Carlos took one for John

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Telling him " you are a Warrior, my boy" was so touching

[@03jayez86]

I was amazed ! Great story line , SAW LOOKS BACK FOR THE TIME BEING 🤩

[@mr.fartman]

QUICK QUESTION: WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE HORROR MOVIE? 🤔

[@northwestkidmarc]

Thank u for this review your ideas are spot on i agreed with everything amazing video amd saw x was amazing fr 😊👏🙌💯

[@titaniumman02]

I think they'll make an X trilogy, with Saw XI having Hoffman and Kramer and then Saw XII having Gordon and Kramer. I could see a Fast & Furious type of thing where we spend a few movies leading up to the third movie.

[@mr.fartman]

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE HORROR MOVIE?

[@Christopher-115]

God I hope not

[@anubusx]

The Omen.

[@Blainprime]

Man I'd fucking love it. We need Gordan to show up fr

[@oldmedstudent1750]

Keep in mind that Tobin Bell is fucking 81. Sad to say but dude doesnt have a ton of time left on this earth.

[@Kel_po]

I think Carlos will be the one carrying on Kramer's work in the present, he should be an adult now right so it would make sense.

[@IronPaws89]

I don't really plan on seeing this in theaters, but can't wait to see what you thought of it!

[@blueturret5596]

I highly recommend seeing it in theaters. Being able to gauge the reactions of the rest of the audience and collectively cringe alongside them when things got gruesome was a pretty good time.

[@SmileyJoneso_o]

It is a must see in theatres!!

[@Justin_Credable]

But wait! It'll be mooore!

[@wandergaming7936]

4 times theatre cheered, when the movie started, Billy showing up, when hello zepp played and when Hoffman showed up

[@abeltesfaye_]

*(Spoilers in my review ahead!)* ⚠️ This movie was BRILLIANT!!! First of all, it is so special that Tobin came back to film this at almost 80 years old ❤ Since the movie focused a lot on Tobin & Shawnee, audiences were able to see just how masterful both of them are as actors & watching them come together again was so special! I just finished watching it and I LOVED IT, especially seeing a return of Hoffman 😈 Watching Tobin, Costas & Shawnee was also so special, especially to learn mlre about the relationship between John & Amanda ❤ I have nothing but gratitude for Tobin Bell, Shawnee Smith, Leigh Whannell, James Wan, Kevin Greutert, & the rest of the incredible Saw team for such a brilliant film! (Oh and a HUGE thank-you to Costas because that was my favorite part! I literally started clapping when he appeared on screen 😂)

[@rayyanchowdhury8306]

me and my best friends went and watched it. we were HYPED when Hoffman was shown at the end

[@UnstableYT-u7k]

I felt the actors deserved Oscars for their acting. I especially thought the girl who played Valentina be a future scream queen. Plus her death was the most painful to watch.

[@lucypalacios1364]

FR. Brutal as fuck

[@UnstableYT-u7k]

@@ElatenlThere have been horror movies that won Oscars. Silence of the Lambs have won for Best Picture.

[@Christianplus10]

Lmao

[@dannylopez1267]

Saw is back!!! My theater also went crazy once Hoffman came out and even when he was first mentioned during the phone call everyone already started whispering like oh shit he’s back and once he did the theater started clapping and cheering. Hands down a dope thing to see and be a part off.

[@dannyramirez2731]

I was never really a fan of the saw films before cause I never found them appealing but I really liked Saw X. I loved how I felt so emotional and conflicted at times. I’m not gonna lie a shed a tear or two. But I’m so interested in where the series goes from here. I’m excited but hesitant because the next one could be bad, but if it’s anything like this one then I’m in.

[@tylerk4641]

Movie was phenomenal. Was excited for it but did not know what to expect. When you have a 10th movie coming out in series usually it gets worse each move they make after first so for a 10th didn't know what to think. But then from hearing all the great and postive reviews from crtitics to it being first movie to get best reviews of any of the movies then first "fresh rotten " tomatos score of series i was thinking thats incredible and this will probably be pretty damn good. And it was great. Not only did it meet my expectations it exceeded it. The story and just everything about it and seeing the orginal characters of obviously John Kramer and then Amanda back and even seeing a bit of Hoffman it was great. Only complaint was wish we had more of Hoffman in it and if there's another saw movie for him to be in it more. He's my favorite character. But movie is great and definitely recommend

[@jackstevenson5796]

I was also pleasantly surprised with this movie and would argue its probably the best one since the first one. I think alot of this comes down to more screen time with Tobin Bell, a 30-45 minute backstory and who's in the traps and why as opposed to random flash backs and the actual twists and turns in the movie. I agree with you there needs to be more survivors of these traps though and I think the directors need to let go of this double edged sword where people complete their task but the blood doesn't drip fast enough or whatever. Once a movie fine but eye vaccum guy broke 4 fingers, Gabrielle survives to be killed later, Valery or whatever her name is, cuts her leg off doesn't get enough marrow. Matteo cuts his brain out, doesn't melt in time. Kinda counter acts that "do you have what it takes to survive?" Quote because clearly they do.

[@samhack3008]

broo your idea rocks, hopefully they somehow manage to add that into a movie

[@whitesabbath6581]

Saw X does the character study thing a million times better than Halloween Ends.

[@3CFilms]

Agreed

[@pinoyjona]

Wanted to watch the movie but I decided to wait and watch it on October for spooky month, especially since I had to pay for the bills that week and had to wait and sad I missed out the reaction of the audience. Gotta say, It’s probably my favorite or at least second favorite Saw movie. Love how they made us root John Kramer and Amanda, especially when Gabriela was killed, despite having her kidnapped and the reason she was in pain. I was even invested on how John get out when Cecilia uno reverse trapped John, despite being a prequel. And man, the post credits, I love we got Hoffman back and the infamous bathroom once more. One change I might have done, is have that imagination John had with that custodian and the eyeball trap real. Not with custodian, but more on one of the scammers or add an additional scammer, possibly one of the masked men from the van. Was liking the beginning of showing John looking innocent and sympathetic, as if he isn’t The Jigsaw Killer. At least with the context makes sense, making it passable.