3D VR180 with a Dual GoPro Hero 12 Gimbal Setup

[@livinagoodlife]

Amazing. I’ve just got the Quest 3 and am blown away by some of the 180 content on there, so obviously the next step was to look into rigs. The Canon R5 is too much but this I can do. Thanks!

[@treadmillgamin]

Thank you!! This is exactly what I am looking for! So many people just say it can't be done, this is some amazing info.

[@ibi_sum]

i do same with two dji osmoaction

[@ohsebseb]

Hi great setup! Can you please share any 3D VR videos you’ve made with this as I’m considering getting something similar and checking out the options. I look forward to you posting the videos edited with mistika! Thanks!

[@yoshinakamoto3162]

! Hello, my dear friend. Please tell me and, if possible, show me the whole installation process. How to glue it all together for KZbin? Thank you. From where, where and how to insert the file of the left eye and from where, where and how to insert the file of the right device/camera? And how to process it all? It would not be bad with examples and if there are other options, then a comparison. I can't find anything. Please help me. Thank you very much. As always, a huge like! .

[@scy7697]

Good job! I have used two action2 and have an even smaller 8k vr180 camera...

[@yoshinakamoto3162]

! Hello my dear friend. Show me how to connect two files from different cameras and in which program to make VR 180? Thank you very much. ?

[@tmswood78]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpqTnKaFpJxqm7csi=EmAnDdTnOwH6Lymo

[@BenSake]

Action videos would really benefit from VR. We need to get this working. I guess the synchronization is the main challenge. Is there any USB C tool for that? Also for the gyroscopic stabilization, we might need to stabilize both videos using gyro data only from one of the cameras. But in that case, the mount would need to be very solid.

[@mainelyhobbies]

Sync is the easiest piece of the puzzle where you can just show the timecode to the cameras at the same time and have frame precise sync. I heard someone is making a tool to use 2 insta 360 x3 cameras, and it allows their flow stabilization.

[@thereisnomouse]

@@mainelyhobbiesFirst of all kudos for your experiments 😎 Did You kept a link regarding the 2x Insta360 x3 setup ? Thanks

[@JB-fh1bb]

I'm suddenly curious on the quality of Gaussian splats captured from a rig like this 😲

[@asher.merkava2088]

please tell me what camera settings you do for better VR180 recording on every gopro?

[@ibi_sum]

and then use adobe premiere sbs 3D videos... with sync audio external... and you?

[@hungrymantisvr]

Just got the rig and am experimenting! We will be attaching it to a drone because we found hand held/ gimbal a bit too rough.

[@gmartinezm]

What is the post production process? do you have a video? Would be great to learn how to do the full workflow... thanks!

[@TS-oh2nc]

Hello, could you tell me where I can buy this rabbit cage for fixing two cameras. Is this customized for 3D printing?

[@jsonslim]

Nice! Do yoy have the actual vr videos somewhere?

[@forrestbrennan8211]

Thanks for sharing! Can you turn off all internal stabilization on these cameras? Otherwise they might each stabilize slightly differently and make some headache inducing stereo.

[@mainelyhobbies]

Yes, hypersmooth has to be off for the full field of view anyway.

[@forrestbrennan8211]

In some of the earlier versions of the Hero there was slight stabilization happening no matter what the settings were so glad to hear that's not the case anymore.

[@GetACustomOne]

I'll probably be making this rig so.thanks.for posting tbe stl file. What's tbe deal with the media mod rig - how'd you space that one out? Is there a kit for that ?

[@NickGilham]

Interested to see how this turned out. Been renting the Canon R5C and the dual fish eye lens for work. I like the result, but processing the video takes forever and the quality is only okay.

[@mainelyhobbies]

Right now I havent had anything cool to make a video from with it.. its freezing outside lol. I have one video on deovr but I believe you need to pay their subscription to see it in full quality. deovr.com/by44zw

[@tosvus]

@@mainelyhobbies thanks I'm gonna have to check that out. Without seeing the result, this seems to be best quality solution that is not outrageously priced.

[@christianlamb]

So this can be done with any 2 gopros? What are the most challenging parts of filming 3d 180 with 2 gopros?

[@tosvus]

Good setup, though I'm a little skeptical about actually filming while using a gimbal. I can see people getting motion sickness very easily from that. (at least for 180 vr in a headset). Did you try the 5.7k mode or if not, could you make a sample for it? Would love to see how they compare in my Quest 3. If you could upload to a file sharing service, that would be amazing, as I have software on the Quest that can display these in full quality.

[@mainelyhobbies]

Slow motion is fine in my testing. I dont have a sample for you, though with movement. Just that stationary 180vr drum video on deovr i posted in another comment. 5.3k wouldn't work when I tried to export. I think 5.3k times 2 is too high a resolution??

[@tosvus]

@@mainelyhobbies Interesting, I will definitely try to check out the deovr video. I haven't really done the math, but I've seen a wide range of resolutions used for 180 videos.

[@Pascal.91]

Thank You! I´m also trying to set such a thing up right now with my Osmo Action. But can you tell me the distance between both lenses? And it would be really interesting to see your cutting workflow because now you've the stitching problem. Really thank you for your answer

[@mainelyhobbies]

They are 64mm apart because that is my PD. I think 65mm is standard for "most people". "And it would be really interesting to see your cutting workflow because now you've the stitching problem." not sure what you mean - I showed the cutting, but I didnt show the stitching here. I used a tutorial video posted by Hugh Hou I think it is.

[@Pascal.91]

@@mainelyhobbies yes but how you managed it to get one VR180 3D Video out of it. Because you've two round videos you get. But the stitching process means you unfold the round video to a square one but even then you only have a VR180 without the second eye

[@thedevleon]

Is there some footage you collected with this you can share?

[@mainelyhobbies]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZXYfJaQgJxob5Isi=LogTYbYS4Xd_WBCx I posted one my other channel where it gets copyrighted.. trying to keep this channel copyright flagging free. I am working on a new tutorial video.

[@Horizen92]

What is your gopro settings? im taking it underwater to film some vr180 underwater shot. Also not sure if u encounter frame blending from the footage when trying to align them together. like at certain frames the number will be off then few frames later it back to the same again. Format that im going with, not sure if its correct. Log 8:7 , 4K , 50FPS Max Lens Mod 2.0 - OFF Stabilization - OFF For the Image Sharpness do u set it to low? Also ur shutter,iso, white balance...

[@seanspinballbuild1209]

Inspired by your video I have done this with a single GoPro 12 with the 2.0 lens. In my case, I am just using OWL 3D to make an AI stereoscopic video. The quality is actually quite good. I do have 1 issue. There is a lot of warping from the lens that isn’t straightened correctly. Is there a setting I need to change? Using 4k with 8:7 and max lens turned off.

[@mateuszlucky2082]

How you connect these two videos in to one vr 180 ?

[@mainelyhobbies]

Did you see this video yet? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpqTnKaFpJxqm7c

[@mateuszlucky2082]

@ I didn’t see it. Going to watch! Thanks !

[@enjoyvride]

Thank you, very interesting material, for now I film mostly static but maybe it would work. Do you have any VR videos from this rig?

[@mainelyhobbies]

First one I made with motion was a fail with poor GoPro manual exposure settings. I'll try again this week but there isn't much for interesting scenery or activity around here currently. I'm Mainelyhobbies on deovr as well. I have one video there playing drums with a stationary dual GoPro setup.

[@enjoyvride]

@@mainelyhobbies and how do you work in post?

[@mainelyhobbies]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpqTnKaFpJxqm7c This is an unlisted video I made for someone who emailed asking.

[@Corfra]

Very nice video, thank you for that! I have the same setup. 2x Gopro 12 and 2x MediaMod 2.0. My problem is, how do I stitch both videos in Premiere? It would be great if you could make a video on this topic, thanks in advance!!!

[@mainelyhobbies]

Premiere cant. Mistika can, check the comments i posted an unlisted video on that process.

[@Corfra]

@@mainelyhobbies Thank you 🙂

[@AntonioCatalá-j7c]

Is it possible to play the recorded video content in Apple vision pro?

[@mainelyhobbies]

Yeah, its a standard video format kf .mp4. I dont have one though so I couldnt tell you what app to use or if it does it built in. Worst case deovr must run on the vision pro.

[@AntonBarcelona]

WOW! Cool stuff! WIll buy this also! Can you say something if the mod lenses iw worth to buy? Because its 177 vs 151... not so much... I wold love if you can show the diference with mod and without if it possible

[@mainelyhobbies]

There are other videos demo'ing the lens mod 1.0 and no lens mod.. its not worth doing on those setups.

[@AntonBarcelona]

@@mainelyhobbies Thank you! Can you tell me please what settings shold i use for good vr180 video? I mean if this is 4:3 or 8:7 etc... Also i see the image is round on lcd sceens is this what the lens mod do?

[@mainelyhobbies]

​@AntonBarcelona it is 8:7 and turn off stabilization and set color temp and iso manually so the cameras match. Don't tell the gopro you have the max lens mod on and you'll get this circular video to work with. 4k 60fps

[@AntonBarcelona]

@@mainelyhobbies wow! thats cool... but dose it mean that if i can just use this feature as it is without lenses and it will work? Because when i activate the max view (i dont have lens, just a hero 12) the fov looks bigger so i can manipulate the image and make it vr180... am i wrong here?

[@mainelyhobbies]

I dont think the fov is much wider, the cameras is probably just stretching it. Max lens mod 2 is the way to go.

[@pj4ever1978]

I have printed case, I have bought 2 cameras and 2.0 Lenses. First of all I need to not turn on Max Lens Mod 2.0 mode and choice 8:7 aspect. But what about combine in Premiere? 50/50 % split screen?

[@mainelyhobbies]

You will need mystika to put them together. Hugh Hou has a tutorial.

[@pj4ever1978]

Thank you. But I have spend half life using Premiere Pro, and I never used Mystika before. Maybe I can combine film using Premiere?@@mainelyhobbies

[@lordoftheengines]

Did you have to scale the print? I pulled it into my slicer and it’s like 1cm.

[@mainelyhobbies]

@@lordoftheengines Yes, I think it had to be 10x scaled - I didnt make the file and ran into that same thing.

[@Gargahel]

Great ! is there the same rig for GOPRO 11 in .stl ? thx

[@mainelyhobbies]

The hero11 has the same dimensions.. but i didnt think it was compatible with the media mod 2.0 so it may not be worth using.

[@Gargahel]

@@mainelyhobbies my bad, I m looking for Gopro 9

[@camilorestrepo6940]

What do you think of using 2 Dji action 4? Will the fov reduction be significant compared to the quality of the image gained? Thanks

[@mainelyhobbies]

I think there is a huge field of view difference.. so with the hero 12 and a media mod 2.0 you aren't telling the camera the media mod is installed so you're literally getting a full circle within the frame. Meanwhile the osmo action 4 is going to be cropping and doing its thing cutting out a big chunk of the field of view

[@petersvideofile]

Is the time drift on both cameras close? If you do longer 30 min vids will either camera start to drift more than the other?

[@mainelyhobbies]

There is no drift while recording. That would only happen if a camera started dropping frames. The drift comes when the cameras are idling, so it's good to resync with the time qr code just before recording.

[@petersvideofile]

Great! I was afraid that since the main clock oscillator wasn't temperature controlled it would have a high ppm drift. People attempting the same with gopro 10 and also go pro 11s were getting around 5-6 frames drift every 40 mins or so... The hero12 though seemed to hold sync better. I wonder if they put a tcox in it for lower ppm. The go pros have rolling shutter, so any fast moving stuff will probably have desynced rolling shutter artifacts but you can probably compensate by just using shorter shutter time or something... Thanks for sharing your work!

[@mainelyhobbies]

Something definitely changed with the hero12 making it much more accurate.

[@switch2324]

Does the hypersmooth work when the camera is set to 177 degrees? Would be nice to get some VR walking videos but probably only worth it if the videos are stable.

[@mainelyhobbies]

No there is no hyper smooth in this mode. Really all hyper smooth does is crop , so you would lose field of view anyway. Also, I suspect if the two cameras aren't perfectly calibrated you might see issues with hypersmooth anyway, similar to how you need to have them in manual mode so they don't have varying color temperatures.

[@switch2324]

@@mainelyhobbies That is a shame. Would of been nice to have a VR bike video in the forest in 3D. Maybe with a gimbal, but then the weight would be a problem. Wasn't sure if there would be a way of synchronising the stabilization in post so that they match but have no idea how you would go about achieving it since it is a very niche use case.

[@mainelyhobbies]

Biking is one of the most vibration inducing activities... so much so that it's used as examples for stabilization quality on many action cameras. I don't think even a gimbal could save it from motion sickness haha.

[@switch2324]

@@mainelyhobbies I used to have a chest mounted feiyutech gimbal that worked well for mtb, it was just combersome to wear and a very fidly to setup and only ever tried it with 1 camera.

[@forrestbrennan8211]

Is the STL file dimensions in CM? Inches seems way too big.

[@mainelyhobbies]

Yeah the person who made it didnt set the dimensions right... i had to scale it either 10x or 100x.. i cannot remember exactly but one of those will make sense

[@dtaylor7798]

Wow Cool! As a result, can we get VR 180 8k 60 fps?

[@mainelyhobbies]

Its 60fps and 4k per eye.. i dont know if it technically qualifies as 8k but typically people call it that in vr.