3rd Party Sega and the 6th Generation - Complete Series

With Dreamcast gone, Sega embarked on a new journey as a 3rd party developer and publisher during the 6th generation.
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Episode Notes:
1. All games captured on real hardware.
2. This is a compilation from 3 different videos on the subject. I wanted to bring them back because I am doing more 6th generation content soon.

[@LucciClubStudios]

Jet set radio future is a certified hood classic

[@UltimateGamerCC]

it was good, but it felt less like a sequel and more a remake, a remake that didnt change all that much.

[@happyspaceinvader508]

What does “hood classic” mean?

[@modernretrorenaissance2520]

What’s better than a new Sega Lord X video? A Sega Lord X video that’s over an hour long! I would listen to him narrate all things Sega all day long.

[@Pythoner]

"I would listen to him narrate all things Sega all day long." That's my problem

[@warehousedave7937]

Favorite Sega developed game for each 6th gen console: *Gamecube -Beach Spikers.* - Very addictive multiplayer AM2 arcade port superior to the arcade version with tons of extra content. *PS2 - King of Route 66* - Overlooked sequel to 18 Wheeler both developed by AM2 and again the PS2 version has much more content than the arcade. *Xbox - Jet Set Radio Future* Not much to be said if you like style and music and Tony Hawk games and especially if you liked Jet Grind Radio. Classic!

[@michielkroder4031]

Beach Spikers is a great shout! But Gamecube also had the first (and still best) Super Monkey Ball and F-Zero GX, which are both monumental classics!

[@positivevibrations5103]

Great list! Forgot about that beach spikers game.

[@Chamele7n]

the 6th gen literally makes me explode. PS2 XBOX GCN ugh so good

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

23:45 That's the music that plays when John Connor is in the Afterburner cab in Terminator 2

[@charlesortiz1059]

Love it all! I rather see Sega on other platforms than not seeing them at all. Keep them coming love watching your posts.

[@Animated__Freak]

What you said about Shinobi really sums up my feelings for a lot of SEGAs titles for this generation. Looks great, but man I wish this was on Dreamcast. It's just that you can tell there is some Dreamcast DNA left in these games and it shows in gameplay and graphics. I wish SEGA would've ported some of these to the Dreamcast while acting as a third-party for other consoles. And then move over to being 100% third party when the 7th generation kicked off. I understand that SEGA was not in the financial position to do that, but it's still a shame because I truly feel the Dreamcast had so much untapped potential left after it's very short life span.

[@revsimonearly]

You are Our Lord over at the Saturn Junkyard! We love your output (particularly Saturn related!) and thank you for your consistently excellent videos! 💙👌😁

[@TehScorpion]

Great video as always. One small thing though, though Yakuza/Like a Dragon was not popular in the west during this era, I'd say since Yakuza 0, that it's become fairly popular.

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

Sega of America did not know how to market the series. In fact SOA was really stubborn that japanese-centric franchises would always fail in America.The same mindset existed since Kakinski days,you can see that in the book Console Wars. Atlus franchises going to Sega changed that.

[@Afgrahamistan]

I can remember reading about this Yakuza game on /v/ here and there, so I managed to pick up a copy of it on PS2 for just $5 in this bin they always had in the back for games they didn't have space for (this was well after the 360/PS3 were out so they didn't have shelf space for last Gen anymore). Was absolutely hooked from that point forward. Same store I found God Hand at too. Absolutely loved both games.

[@429bigblock]

I love the focus on Sega consoles and content, but I'm happy to hear you talk about any games really. The way you break them down and organize your videos makes them so easy to watch. keep it up!

[@oldmanretro949]

I just picked up Out Run 2 on the Original XBOX for 40 bucks last week 🎉

[@kalofkrypton]

I have to say that gen 6 was my absolute favourite period in gaming. While Sega bowed out of the hardware market Sony, MS and Nintendo were pretty much at the height of their respective powers for my money; and as a young adult with very few responsibilities and relatively high amounts of disposable cash - it was a great time having those three consoles. One of my favourite gaming memories was the one (and only one!) time my friends and I moved a couple of huge CRT tvs to one of our house shares to play Halo 2 linked up.

[@timgeorge8637]

I can't explain why, but to me, Sega's PS2 output feels like Saturn era Sega, their Xbox output feels like Dreamcast era Sega, and their Gamecube output feels like Mega Drive/Genesis era Sega. Feels like we really got the best out of every part of Sega during the 6th gen. Sad that version company now no longer exists.

[@Diskoboy1974]

I literally bought my OG Xbox on launch day for Jet Set Radio Future and Gunvalkyrie. But since it would be a few months before both were released, i enjoyed my time with Halo, Project Gotham Racing, and DOA 3.

[@lap456]

About 95% of those games I never kenw about. Looks like my Mac will be doing an eumaltion based hidden jam finding mission.

[@cMARVEL360]

I gotta say it. 28:53 In Low income Urban Areas of America. Jet Set Radio Future was one Amazing Graffiti Game. At the core it was all about thr Tags and Pieces. Me and like 6 other friends used ro gather up at my house practicing our hand styles with Pen & Paper and taking turns playinf Jetset, and replicating our stuff in the game. It was an amazing Alternative to the usual Perception of Graffiti at least in Los Angeles where it was seen and made to feel like baby Gang Bangers for us non Caucasians. The reality is na! We dont want to Gang Bang we just like Getting Up! This was a great reinforcement of how some of us just wanna have fun and be Funky while we are living our lives. It wasn't so serious to say Marc Echo's Getting Up. Which itself was a Fantastic slice of Graffiti History with actual Pioneers of thr Craft. But at the time it took itself too seriously and Jet Set was a Fun ass Alternative to that.

[@Wuggyboobeaufuf138]

I have that Japanese version of Nights which is quite good!

[@gammaphonic]

45:34 love that running animation. He’s definitely done a big ‘ol dump in his big boy pants.

[@ForeRunnerODST]

3rd party Sega in 6th gen is my second favorite era of theirs when it comes to games (Saturn being first). So many great games on each platform. The birth of Yakuza, god tier sequels to past games like Outrun 2 and JSRF, other new IPs like Billy Hatcher and Gunvalkyrie. Despite going third party their creativity soared in that period (only to fall into a rut once 7th gen started). I’m hoping their new “super game” initiative will lead to a similar renaissance

[@leeg12000]

Definitely lookin' forward to your Yakuza reviews in the future big-guy. Great video as always 👍.

[@pliniomsann]

Great idea for this video. I enjoyed a lot. Could make one only focusing on Sega franchises from previous generations (Shinobi, A Beast, the Sega Ages stuff , etc)

[@jamiemaloney1552]

I'm always looking for cool games I haven't tried before. This list gave me a few new ones. Thanks!

[@angryretrogamer7313]

Some of the best games of all time. Excellent choices and well done thank you

[@TheMLBHatCollector]

The PS2 had a massive game library. Sega did a lot of good games for the PS2.

[@McBerts522]

Sega lord should do a sega games video on the the PSP.

[@SegaLordX]

Working on it.

[@oldmanretro949]

YEAH 🎉🎉🎉

[@McBerts522]

Awesome

[@G.G.___162]

Great idea! Would love to see that too

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

PSP had some great fantranslations of Sega games: the two Yakuza Black Panther games,Valkyria Chronicles 3 and Phantasy Portable 2. As Sakura Taisen 2 will be translated to Saturn in a few years I hope someone port the SS translations to the PSP (there is a compilation of Sakura Taisen 1 & 2 on it)

[@G.G.___162]

After hearing some NiGHTS music in the background, I'm thinking: How cool would it be to see an orchestra perform the sound track live in concert!? Would be so much fun to experience

[@treefroggy]

SEGA Bass Fishing Duel is my favorite!

[@WooMaster777]

Thank you for these great videos! 😄😁

[@SomeOrangeCat]

I see people complaining that Sega should return to the hardware market, but this compilation is a perfect example of why they have no incentive to do so. being third party equals less risk, more potential reward.

[@judah_macabe]

It's hard for us who grew up really just Sega and Nintendo, but at this point Xbox has had a longer console life than Sega had (23 yrs vs 15 yrs, North America consoles). At this point anyone who worked at Sega on their consoles have long since moved on or retired. What we do miss is their unique games like seaman, cho cho rocket, space channel 5, etc etc, as well as the awesome arcade ports like crazy taxi and house of the dead, among many others. If Sega could recapture some of that unique magic they'd bring back what has been missing in gaming since 2001, without the need for a full on console.

[@DDRmails]

true... blind fanatism

[@UltimateGamerCC]

yup, as much as i would love to see them come back with a vengeance, they are more interested in making money, than burning it, like they did with the 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast.

[@slickrat]

Even Nintendo has no chance to compete and left the home consoles market, let alone Sega. Say what you will but in my eyes the Switch is only portable (not home) console that happens to have a video output to the TV.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

talk about copium, that's military grade, Nintendo created a Console that is both for Home AND Portable, yet you shortchange the holy hell out of it. i love SEGA, but you need to tone down your fanboyism, it's getting to dick-riding levels.@@slickrat

[@foreignhorrorandmore-uf2zl]

Great work as always!

[@The_Soulbutcher]

Wow this video showed me so many PS2 games from Sega that I didn't know existed. And I thought I stayed very informed of what Sega was doing during the 6th gen. I guess the magazines I collected didn't tell me everything. Now I have some game hunting to do.

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

Look at the quality of those games on GC,PS2 and Xbox.From rpgs,fighting games,rail shooters,racing games,new franchises... Sega was the same Sega from previous generations. Leaving the console market did not kill Sega,the fusion of Sammy did it. Just in a few years they would abandon everything that was not Sonic and Yakuza.

[@nr2676]

Fortunately Utsumi did some revivals from those abandoned Sega franchises in 2017-2023. Most of them were outsourced (Valkyria Chronicles, Shining, Streets of Rage etc.), but someone of them were developed by Team Sonic (Phantasy Star 2 Online, Sakura Wars, Samba De Amigo) or RGG Studio (Virtua Fighter, Super Monkey Ball, probably Jet Set Radio). Yeah those revivals were definitely low budget, and ended not that good like original games, but - they are trying. Let's hope in Power Surge initiative we well get more ,,good'' revivals from classic Sega IP's.

[@BrusqueLee]

Genesis Collection on PS2 was a banger. Gain Ground was far and away my most played title there.

[@kudratortikov1204]

Amazing video! Thank you!

[@gfhrtshergheghegewgewgew1730]

that sega ages2500 columna looks good to me, i'd play it

[@aschraub9897]

Phantasy Star Online remains my favorite game of all time too this day! I still play on the private servers

[@StillTheVoid]

Thank you so much for this compilation. An outstanding SEGA list that yet again encourages us gaming veterans to reconsider when shopping for retro titles of days past. Sega Lord X is still my go-to SEGA source. Can't wait what's in store for 2024. 🤘

[@joesshows6793]

Need to do a Wii sega games video. Mad world was too much fun back then!

[@johnknight9150]

My main issue with more modern (especially 3D) Sonic games is that target-and-shoot-yourself-towards-the-enemy mechanic. I've never found using it fun (where's the game??) and I'd much rather strip it back to bare bones and then design the enemies and levels to suit the simpler control mechanics. Sonic is always at its best when it aims for elegant simplicity.

[@BobbyHo2022]

There was a Sega ages collection w lots of games on 1 disc released in north America that wasn't featured here.

[@revsimonearly]

Thanks

[@SegaLordX]

No problem. Thank you for your patronage.

[@darinherrick9224]

Beach Spikers is the greatest volleyball game ever made. Fantastic gameplay. Create your own character. Train your character. It’s so much fun.

[@Aragorn7884]

In "some ways" OG XBox is like a Dreamcast 2

[@hpickettz34]

Sega made more games on ps2.

[@rh8560]

Seem that way

[@nore5888]

@@hpickettz34but the feel, the controller, the games

[@patrickwooton966]

There are 4x as many games for the ps2 in general.@@hpickettz34

[@SRC267]

For some reason I feel the GameCube is the DC2

[@dragline7287]

F zero and super monkey ball 2 were my best sega games of that era. Panzer dragoon orta was also great since I didn't know anyone with a saturn to play the original panzer dragoon games

[@WhatIsMatter101]

F-Zero is a Nintendo franchise and done by AV who acted as 3rd party developer with quality testing and publishing done by the Big N. Sega's only participation is in the arcade game F-Zero GX. Sega will simply bury the F-Zero if they owned it. Just like Panzer Dragoon.

[@jd-py5nm]

This is my favorite generation outside the SNES genesis etc and sega was killing it at this point

[@JohnnyWednesday]

it must have been loads of fun working on the updated 3D versions of the classics - games even then were so much more complex - it would be lovely to just make a simple, fun game.

[@fedupN]

Wooooow, Vampire Nights! Damn, that reminds me of my old friend. We put in some time into that cheezy little gem. Also, GUNGRAVE! Loved that and GG: Overdose. Dont think Id ever go back to it, but as a younger lad loved it.

[@segaboy128]

This era of sega games so many awesome gems!!

[@Cafeman_2D]

Here are some index timecodes. 1:54 PS2 Vampire Night 2:40 PS2 VF4 3:27 PS2 GunGrave 4:07 PS2 Shinobi 4:48 PS2 Aero Elite 5:20 PS2 Virtual On Marz 6:12 PS2 Nightshade 6:44 PS2 Shining Tears 7:33 PS2 Astro Boy 8:10 PS2 Blood Will Tell 9:07 PS2 Shining Force Neo 10:01 PS2 Outrun 2006 C2C 10:47 PS2 Yakuza 11:37 PS2 Genesis Collection 12:17 PS2 Shining Force EXA 12:55 PS2 Sonic Riders Zero Gravity 13:32 PS2 Iron Man 14:17 PS2 Incredible Hulk 14:55 PS2 Yakuza 2 15:40 PS2 Sonic Unleashed 17:00 PS2 Altered Beast 18:06 PS2 NiGHTS Into Dreams 18:45 PS2 Thunder Force VI 19:32 PS2 Virtua Cop Elite Edition 20:04 PS2 Sega Rally 2006 20:31 PS2 Sega Ages games 27:40 XBOX SEGA 52:26 Gamecube SEGA

[@kokotheclown2588]

Thx homie u a real one

[@volvoguy804]

Such a long one. Much appreciated.

[@captainzib]

Surprised the ps2 port of F355 Challenge wasn’t covered

[@JamesMSmithsDeadYouTubeChannel]

As someone who likes SLX but hates hour-long videos, this really helps out. Living proof that not all heroes need to wear capes...

[@lemmenmin7676]

спасибо тебе, а автору канала - нет

[@AndrewTime9106]

6th gen. What a damn fine time. My favorite and honestly the strongest console I believe to have ever existed.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

I had quite a few of these early 'Sega as a 3rd party' titles. Sonic Heroes, Otogi: Myth of Demons, JSRF, Sega GT 2002, F-Zero GX, Outrun 2, Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast, Shinobi, NightShade, as well as the annual NFL and NBA 2K games. Hopefully modern Sega explores more of their IPs with that recent announcement.

[@Bloody-Butterfly]

Whenever someone says a game is “repetitive”, I know I’m going to like it.

[@johncraw8572]

Awesomeness video please do more thanks 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Bowen_Landry]

Awesome set of games.

[@theengineer9910]

what a treat !

[@eppskevin]

I guess an anime was built from that dororo game. As there’s an anime with the very same story

[@kubuspuchatek19833]

I’m impatiently awaiting the remake of Shinobi which will be hopefully released this year.

[@sitrep123able]

Let's sit back and appreciate that most games here are 60fps

[@polycube868]

Yep which the 7th gen has way less 60 fps games.

[@darinherrick9224]

One thing I think confuses a lot of people is Outrun 2 and Outrun Coast to Coast actually have different track lists. The Xbox Live Outrun 2 actually has the tracks from Coast to Coast. Also the Xbox version (NOT the Xbox Live) version of Outrun 2 has unlockable tracks from SCUD Racer (SEGA GT arcade game).

[@projectmayhem6898]

Thanks!

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

The PS2 Shinobi game is fun, played theough half of it recently (save got deleted in emulator sadly) i still havent played Nightshade but plan to soon, even if its a step back.

[@doubledragon912]

Great video!

[@Johnlmooring]

This just shows the potential Sega really had. Sega was a great company that just hit a bad string of luck. The college hoops series and NFL 2K series were my favorites. I’d love to see Sega release a system to rival the PS5 Pro and Series X Pro whenever they are released.

[@sneakyskunk1]

What I would not give to get my hands on the Nights ps2 port!

[@oscarperezdearce2163]

Looking forward for a complete review of Bayonetta series when 7th generation reviews comes in

[@boredstudent]

One game by Sega I enjoyed on the PS2 that was Japan exclusive was Initial D Special Stage. I actually have a physical copy of that game and made a slight modification to my PS2 in order to play it since the console is region locked. But it's based on the Initial D Arcade Stage series. Initial D Arcade Stage Ver. 2 specifically. I also played Shinobi. Not a bad game. In my opinion, the Xbox had the beat Sega titles. Panzer Dragoon Orta which was what sold me to the Xbox, I had the bundle that came with Sega GT 2002 and Jet Set Radio Future. I didn't care much for Sega GT but I really enjoyed JSRF. I also have Shenmue II which I still play occasionally. As a kid I was really happy when Sonic Adventure 2 was coming to the Nintendo GameCube because I didn't have a Sega Dreamcast and this was my opportunity to finally play Sonic Adventure 2 I also had Sonic Adventure DX and the Sonic Mega Collection.

[@johnnada6855]

You gather all this and you can safely see what the second half of the dreamcast would have been, of course with some downgrade, sega needed a console like the xbox but better made to be able to still compete, yet they did release lots of great games

[@tionik06]

Loved it

[@matthewbarrios1028]

This was hinestly my favorite generation and time for Sega games. The Dreamcast has amazing Sega made games and they carried that to the Xbox and GameCube.

[@clayton33]

I remember renting Shinobi for PS2 at Blockbuster back in 02

[@princegroove]

Sega was never a serious hardware competitor because of too much internal competition between the US and Japanese business units. Glad they stuck to their forte - great games!

[@WhatIsMatter101]

Aside from that, they didnt even have a solid plan. And when they did have their one win in the West, they didnt even know how to secure the final lap versus the SNES.

[@HansBoopie]

I love all of my old Sega consoles, but I’m happy they can put all of their effort into making games as a 3rd party developer instead of putting resources into new hardware. The only way I want Sega to release new hardware is if it’s a Saturn or Dreamcast mini, haha.

[@kalvinravn8431]

Very, very well done.

[@jackofallgamesTV]

I remember seeing Sega Derby in my Truck stop. It had 10 stalls and was always busy. I wonder if A) it would lose the whole loint of the game by porting it home, and B) if it made sense to bring it home, if it ecer did come home. That was the last Sega Arcade game I saw in the wild.

[@fritzthecat8158]

Aliens infestation for Nintendo ds is my favorite post console sega game

[@chrisducati26]

That's a great review! I think you forgot the excellent ps2 Virtua fighter 1 10th anniversary edition japan

[@geesterfunk]

Would love to hear your take on the mega 95 from hyprkin dude, i'm sure you will once you get a hands on.

[@imafreakinninja12]

I think probably the best thing for Virtua Fighter was SEGA going third party. They should have included VF 3TB on the VF4 disc. Then we could play that game with a decent controller layout.

[@Gaming_since_the_eighties]

If it wasn´t for exclusive games from Sega like: Crazy Taxi 3 Jet Set Radio Future and Panzer Dragoon Orta, i wouldn´t bought an OG XBOX. This is why the OG XBOX was also known as Dreamcast 2.0

[@christianweber9089]

The Series X is the Dreamcast 5. I miss PGR Racing Games, the Original MSR was on Dreamcast.

[@mercster]

Mmmmm, Record of Lodoss War. Thanks for the mega-video, Lordster! SEEEEEEEEEEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[@mercster]

"Put companies like EA on notice, that the days of easy success in the sports genre were over." Well, it was a good try anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@mukiex4413]

I’ve been watching Dororo on Amazon… kinda wanna check that PS2 game out

[@michael-zg5fq]

Wish we could have a collection of these games on PS4 PS5 and switch, even if they're released digital or multiple volumes

[@PhakhaphonSirisonthi]

You’re legend.

[@DDRmails]

most "shining" fans hate post Camelot games, i kinda understand them, but still if not famous series is living - its not so bad as be forgoten. so i decide to play all of them to check... Shining tears its fine game for 7.5\10... shining force NEO its what i gonna finish maybe today and after 70+ hours of play and grind i can say - its easy 9\10, cant wait to check next lol, a couple day ago i found chanel on YT where a guy shows all build of cancelled VECTORMAN 3... where be seen how developing goes wrong from decent 3d platformer to HALO.. and that IRONMAN is so look like it was maded on those builds) When i saw that HULK gameplay i even through screen could feel it - this game was a base to PROTOTYPE 2009 game... maybe not engine, but scripts for sure

[@ronpopeil6346]

Thank you SegaLordX! I have an electric car (a Polestar 2) and when I am at a public charger, I load up your videos on the car's center console KZbin app. I intentionally wait to watch your videos when I need to do at least a 30 minute charge, so thank you for making that process much more enjoyable.

[@iraford5788]

Great.

[@BMK_KING]

NBA 2k2 on ps2 was so good. Also outrun on 360

[@adidas20zero]

Yeees sir...

[@joaogabrielgama4925]

It would be cool to see these games ported to where they should have originally been. Dreamcast could have had an even better library.

[@johndd9140]

I was gutted when they stopped supporting the beloved Dreamcast, but very glad they survived as a software powerhouse 😁

[@Canadian_Gamer]

Oh this should be good.

[@mjdf122]

The Original Xbox is the Sega Dreamcast 2

[@christianweber9089]

Exactly 😊 I think that, too. The Controller Gamepad is inspired by the dreamcast Controller.

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

Sega lost too much money by the time 2000s came around. Only a high executive who founded sega and have saved up some fortune and was willing to give it up and inject into the company managed to keep sega alive as a software maker and publisher. What is left of sega own in house development team among her arcade and console domains who didnt quit the industry or left for other comoanies continue go keep sega alive at that time until a lot of them have grown old by now and have retired already.

[@zoharsoto8103]

shinobi,panzer dragon,sonic dx,2 awesome 6 gen

[@chrisw8069]

Wasn't Dragon Force for the Playstation 2 gettingan english translation?

[@SharifSourour]

Yakuza did succeed in the west, it just took a long time and didn’t really start until around yakuza 5 and yakuza 0 to pickup in the west.

[@SegaLordX]

Right, but at this time, it was not a success at all.

[@nr2676]

Yakuza 0 and Valkyria Chronicles Steam port for 20$. Before that both franchises were basically unknown outside of Japan.

[@SharifSourour]

@@SegaLordX yes if you meant that time, that makes sense.

[@gracekim25]

Yay PS2❤

[@nr2676]

Again you ignoring Sakura Wars V: So Long My Love, which was first game in series published in NA/EU (yeah by NISA, not Sega but this is Sega franchise). This game was last released game in NA/EU on PS2 (2010), not counting sports games like FIFA, NBA, PES etc.

[@mayamanign]

OG Xbox IS Dreamcast 2.

[@crazedlunatic43]

I always thought GameCube was the true successor to Dreamcast. But who said you could only have one true successor? Both Xbox and GameCube were the main true successor’s for Dreamcast.