4 Ways I'd IMPROVE Formula 1's Most Famous Race

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Tommo

Tommo

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@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
If you're NOT a Monaco enjoyer, do you think there's any hope for the on track action to be saved? Go say hello to the Mystery F1 KZbinr n'all. 🙌 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJrHeGmjnbOpfsk
@finhaigh4063
@finhaigh4063 2 жыл бұрын
only if they make the cars smaller but I don't see that happening and I'm talking like mp 4/4 size car
@obud3777
@obud3777 2 жыл бұрын
No, there’s no hope for Monaco! There is no room for racing, it’s a procession
@stefandebeer9375
@stefandebeer9375 2 жыл бұрын
For the Top 12 one-shot quali, they go out in order of their championship position for example: 1st goes out 1st since they are the leader(and most likely to have the quickest car) and the lowest ranked driver that got into the top12 goes out last. Basicly the faster cars get "nerfed" by having the least amount of track evolution and the slower cars get "buffed" with having the most track evolution. Then during the race the faster cars will have to either overtake via strategy or actually going for a bold move which is a risk/reward-factor if they want more points.
@trains2936
@trains2936 2 жыл бұрын
@@finhaigh4063 that’s basically the 2026 cars
@darkmann12
@darkmann12 2 жыл бұрын
nah. kill it with fire
@elliot4805
@elliot4805 2 жыл бұрын
I think all the F1 teams should run special “historic” liveries in monaco to make it something to look forward to. a bit like throwback weekends in nascar.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Yesssssss
@gabriellarosa7159
@gabriellarosa7159 2 жыл бұрын
That already exists, The Grand Prox Historique de Monaco. It's the ACM who organizes it every year with original cars from every period of F1 (Pre-war, 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s).
@WiisardNic
@WiisardNic 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabriellarosa7159 Yes, but that's not entered by the teams, and isn't part of F1 as it is now.
@Madpiggaming
@Madpiggaming 2 жыл бұрын
that doesnt fix any of the actual issues with monaco though, thats like putting sparkles in a dog turd, all you get is a sparkly turd, the fundamental issue with monaco, is monaco
@garrettbedolli3014
@garrettbedolli3014 2 жыл бұрын
You killed me with the "safety car deployed due to your crying" Tommo, you are a treat
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@Avery_37
@Avery_37 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TommoMcCluskey 🚓
@matpk
@matpk 5 ай бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskeyjust run it anticlockwise
@gigaazzahrawani6456
@gigaazzahrawani6456 2 жыл бұрын
Constructor should make a special car for monaco based on renault twizy. That'd improve the overtaking opportunity.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
I raise you the Sinclair C5
@Alex58399
@Alex58399 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey I raise you the Daihatsu Midget
@cjt6634
@cjt6634 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex58399 ​ I raise you the BMW Isetta
@templetonthegood
@templetonthegood 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjt6634 I’ll raise you the Peel P50
@CGBG
@CGBG 2 жыл бұрын
I raise you all with the Fiat Multipla
@AshWood92
@AshWood92 2 жыл бұрын
Does Tommo ask himself a lot of questions in this video? Yes.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Another one
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey Does he answer his own question, why yes
@ryanmarshall1358
@ryanmarshall1358 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you for the most part in your idea for Qualifying, but make it more simple to have normal Q1 Q2, then a top 10 shootout. Just look at how it works at Bathurst, it such a spectacle watching each cargo out and getting to focus on each car.
@BlinkyBill_
@BlinkyBill_ 2 жыл бұрын
Except in comaprison V8's are slow....u dont need more than 1 lap to get your eye in....F1 i would assume u do squeezeing out half tenths each lap
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
I'd take that for sure
@74_pelicans
@74_pelicans 2 жыл бұрын
Supercars do it many races not just Bathurst
@rhyshutchin5
@rhyshutchin5 2 жыл бұрын
​@@74_pelicans yeah but it's more recognised for Bathurst being the biggest race in the calendar. Also the way Bathurst operates its race weekend is more in line with F1 than the other races in its calendar, with qualifying being on the Saturday and the race taking place on the Sunday. Most of the other supercars top 10 shoot outs occur on the same day as the race and there can even be multiple top 10 shoot outs for the 3 or 4 races that happen over the weekend
@74_pelicans
@74_pelicans 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhyshutchin5 do you watch Bathurst? Qualifying is on Friday. The only real difference is there is no Saturday racing to other weekends.
@Metaknight251
@Metaknight251 2 жыл бұрын
To further add on the one-stop qualifying, it would be really awesome to watch each driver have their own time to do an out lap, flying lap, and cooldown lap. You could even greenlight the next car to go once a driver crosses the finish line and their flying lap. I think this idea would be amazing for gps with little overtakes like Singapore as well.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think a degree of overlap would work. As long as the next car isn't released until the car before has finished their fast lap. Just in case they crash y'know. Could end up spoiling if you've got a brand spanking new set of tyres on.
@nytarT1
@nytarT1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey I think the moment the car on a fast lap crosses the 2nd pit stop line of end of the first sector the next car comes out the pit to do its outlap and with tyre blanket changes the car has to wait at the end of the pit lane for the green light
@duncachinoahimiha3889
@duncachinoahimiha3889 2 жыл бұрын
That’s basically how NASCAR did their qualifying until a few years ago. It was a real spectacle, especially toward the end of the season (they did reverse championship points if I recall correctly)
@Jk81_
@Jk81_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is with one shot qualifying the weather and track evolution ruin it depending on when you go out which then makes it an unfair qualifying even if they got to choose whether they go first or last.
@Metaknight251
@Metaknight251 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey 100% wouldn't even be that much longer than our current 3 qualifying sessions. If each driver takes about a minute per lap and takes 3 laps, it'll be about an hour for the whole quali
@damoncrossan3827
@damoncrossan3827 2 жыл бұрын
I've been an advocate of making q3 a 1 shot quali for years now I think it adds to the suspense of drama liberty media want to play on
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely for Monaco
@stiangjrvad9593
@stiangjrvad9593 2 жыл бұрын
the problem with having a one shot qualy is that drivers would comlain about the advantages that going last would have, and righly so thinking about track evolution, i just dont see it working
@LuminalSpoon
@LuminalSpoon 2 жыл бұрын
@@stiangjrvad9593 Just means there's more incentive to be quickest in Q2
@Brasidas.the.Spartan
@Brasidas.the.Spartan 2 жыл бұрын
@@stiangjrvad9593 I think it would be good because teams like Ferrari and Red Bull, that already know they will not be eliminated, would fight for having tge last run at the final 12
@wideboydave
@wideboydave 2 жыл бұрын
@@stiangjrvad9593 As Tommo said in the video, that's just more incentive to be the top of your qualfying heat... so you're qualifying for the qualifying... sounds good to me!
@blanckq
@blanckq 2 жыл бұрын
God I want one shot for Monaco so bad. Makes me think of turbo Trulli's pole lap in '04. More of that please.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
It was trulli magnificent
@rhysstuart7035
@rhysstuart7035 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey Underrated pun that
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the concept of one-shot qualifying. It gives every team whether big or small a good amount of TV time equally. You get ONE lap. If the driver messes up and has to start last, tough, don't make the mistake. Q1, Q2, Q3 is great, but I think I'd love one-shot qualifying. Everywhere not just Monaco. I loved your changes to the track too. Great work. 😁
@cordlxze9559
@cordlxze9559 2 жыл бұрын
A top 10 shootout like Bathurst (Australia's Monaco) would be epic!
@hunnerd4566
@hunnerd4566 2 жыл бұрын
NASCAR has a form of one shot (you get 2 laps tho) and it’s so great to watch, you get a real sense of speed when it’s just one car going for it as fast as possible
@abrarmuhtasiim6612
@abrarmuhtasiim6612 2 жыл бұрын
One-shot qualifying is probably the ideal qualifying format in tracks where the background is bland. I would rather see the sponsors of each of the cars than a bunch barriers, walls and fencing for a minute and a half
@san.deep_s
@san.deep_s 2 жыл бұрын
Track evolution would be a problem. And weather also for 1 shot qualifying
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer
@CammyTheSportsEntertainer 2 жыл бұрын
@@san.deep_s even the current qualifying has cons. No qualifying session is perfect. One-shot is just my personal favourite. A driver getting one shot. I love it. Changing of weather conditions can make it interesting. Even if it's only going from sunny to overcast as that would affect the behaviour of the track.
@Johnnyboi0001
@Johnnyboi0001 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect, just perfect! They could definitely do more in the harbour to make the track more interesting 😜
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Johnny!
@Nicolaj89
@Nicolaj89 2 жыл бұрын
Timetrial style qualy for Monaco would be epic in my opinion. Mandating a number of pit stops would also add an extra layer of uniqueness and could eliminate the need for track changes in my opinion. And btw. cars need to start getting smaller again, not only for the sake of Monaco but for the sake of many other tracks as well
@blueredlover1060
@blueredlover1060 2 жыл бұрын
At bare minimum they need to get thinner. The current F1 cars are closing in something like 1.5 meters (5ish ft). Maybe you can force them down to 1.2 meters or so. Thin out the width to allow for passing. Because I get the feeling the current aero rules will eventually have the teams getting even wider to compensate for the lack of effects off the cars. Idk of you could shorten the cars, but you should be able to thin them down. Maybe you would if you took the NASCAR fueling approach and mandated a limit on fuel cell size giving a stop to refuel, but that's honestly dumb.
@shadowmancy9183
@shadowmancy9183 2 жыл бұрын
@@blueredlover1060 I've heard that they're targeting a smaller and lighter car for 2026, and allowing refueling would help with that goal. Adding another layer of strategy is always nice as well- there's no predicting how much fuel someone put in their car at the start, so they might be loaded to go the full race with tires only, or they might've taken 1/4 tank to start on softs, planning for a two-stop with fuel each time. I don't want to force refueling, but it should be an option, and with it allowed, the whole debate about finishing under SC/VSC/Red Flag can be solved very quickly- neutralize the field, allow everyone to pit for fuel only, then a GWC as needed to the end. If there's one thing F1 could/should take from NASCAR, it's the overtime racing rules.
@Brizyy
@Brizyy 2 жыл бұрын
I already think Monaco has the most fun quali on the calendar and i think it sounds smart to go all in on making the quali as interesting as possible, this quali setup would get me mad hyped atleast.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
The hype would be real
@David_D.
@David_D. 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but the fact that the qualifying at Monaco is 9 times out of 10 more interesting than the race itself says a lot.
@felixtherien3813
@felixtherien3813 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how « qualifying » works in skiing and the fact that you only have one opportunity to shine for the race is really motivating for the athletes! I think it’s a great idea Tommo!
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Felix!
@fakee7744
@fakee7744 2 жыл бұрын
Love all 4 ideas! I think they could really make Monaco an interesting track to watch again.
@PauloHenrique-pb9jh
@PauloHenrique-pb9jh 2 жыл бұрын
with the portier cove completed, there's a great room for grandstands close this new turn. Is the most obvious necessity change they never tryed to see. And, a great TV spot, around this garden, like a second Lowes
@jbb6372
@jbb6372 2 жыл бұрын
i didnt expect to like this video, but i really do like the changes you have listed out ive been talking for a long time to my friends about monaco adopting an Bathurst 1000 style top 10 shootout qualifying model. very similar to what you have sugested with the f2 model i also think your proposed circuit changes are great and would see a lot more action on the exit of the tunnel with that extra speed and setup time.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Josh!
@FlufLord
@FlufLord 2 жыл бұрын
I also love the idea of watching hot laps in the case of one off liveries, which i want to see more of everywhere, but especially in monaco.
@scottrobinson4611
@scottrobinson4611 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Tommo, I'm really impressed with your suggestion #2, changing the quali format. What you suggested sounds genuinely very exciting and something I could see teams and drivers genuinely supporting if it were seriously suggested.
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Scott!
@oscarmadslien4853
@oscarmadslien4853 2 жыл бұрын
For Monaco only, F1 should do something similar to the Formula E Head to Head knockout quali with 1 lap qualifying tyres. It'd be kinda like one shot but bigger chances for upsets through the field - even backmarkers in FE sometimes got to the front row for a shock result. It'd also reduce the differences between each competing driver too
@thekingjackoz4542
@thekingjackoz4542 2 жыл бұрын
the best part of the day is when Tommo uploads
@caelanoconnor8663
@caelanoconnor8663 2 жыл бұрын
True
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Too kind
@alexhwa2017
@alexhwa2017 2 жыл бұрын
get a life😅
@MartiniPinball
@MartiniPinball 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty pathetic you’re day must be
@NegativePlayz
@NegativePlayz 2 жыл бұрын
They actually do that one-shot qualifying in the Australian V8 Supercars racing series. It's called the top 10 shootout and is the second biggest event apart from the race.
@skollbrod
@skollbrod 2 жыл бұрын
I believe someone made a video about changes and extending the track just before the last two corners. So turn left at rascasse and include more of the dock on that side, eventually coming back through a tunnel to end up at the start finish straight with more speed as well...
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
I know The Race mocked something up a while back. It's quite a drastic change, that won't add much in a way of overtaking opportunities IMO. But you never know!
@garchompy_1561
@garchompy_1561 2 жыл бұрын
on layout changes, there are definately places where the track can be widened. the pavements that are there could also easily be sunk in to the ground flush with the road surface in a lot of places allowing the track to extend further (such as the ENTIRE uphill section, downhill hairpin, and a few other places) . it may result in some lower traction parts around the edges where the asphalt becomes smooth brick, but if drivers can drop a wheel on the grass in a quick move they can do it there too. in terms of the rest of the track, id honestly like to see a return to the original layout (or closer to it at least) in some places. if you want a longer straight, go back to pre-addition of the pool section. out of the chicane after the tunnel, then a massive sweeping corner all the way to a hairpin on to the start-finish straight, alternatively you move the start-finish on to that long sweeping corner and then you give an incentive for ridiculous moves on that chicane, which would also let you change the layout on the old start-finish straight to bring back some more corners and remove the akwardness of T1.
@Max_Flashheart
@Max_Flashheart 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great one-shot qualifying and 2 pitstop rule - track changes might be great if practical.
@FormulaOneLeclerc
@FormulaOneLeclerc 2 жыл бұрын
My concern with splitting the grid is that in wet conditions or similar, the track will be different for each batch
@duranvt3856
@duranvt3856 2 жыл бұрын
There are some problems with one shot qualifying. track evolution and weather. Your argument is that the conditions is already different in the normal qualifying format, but I think that’s different. If people go out too late or too early because weather changes, it’s something the team could’ve prevented and there is strategy needed to counter for example rain after a dry start. If you do one-shot qualifying, it’s all luck when you start a session and when you go out on track in good conditions. If it has rained before the qualifying session, it would mean that Latifi would go even further in the back and the gaps between the first place and second place will get bigger aswell. This would make qualifying not fun too watch and it will cause a lot of controversy. The best solution for fixing that is to make drivers go on track and drive their only lap very close behind the other cars, but in Monaco there is no room for that. You know, both versions of qualifying aren’t perfect, but if I had to choose which one I would go for, I would choose the normal system. Even though it will be dangerously busy on track, the session is more about strategy and skill, instead of skill and luck
@aespejolc
@aespejolc 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Fair is what it is now.
@Hans5958
@Hans5958 2 жыл бұрын
He addressed it on 7:09
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 2 жыл бұрын
monaco grand prix was perfect few decades ago. they slowed down the track for security reasons. now we have improved security and now we have miami and jeddah, whitch are fast street circuit, we can get back to "old monaco".
@thescranstation2notbetter509
@thescranstation2notbetter509 2 жыл бұрын
That track change would be worse. The new hairpin would be a heavy traction zone which seperates the cars. It would be the same as the old abu dhabi turns 5,6 and 7
@joshw-g7999
@joshw-g7999 2 жыл бұрын
The minimum 2 stop is such a good idea. Personally I think they should just remove the nouvelle chicane, widen the "straight" by removing some grandstands, to encourage overtaking. Idk if it'll be a safety concern but I reckon the racing will be better. Also maybe removing swimming pool exit chicane and make it more straight , but idk if they can do that
@JonDoe-ln6nl
@JonDoe-ln6nl 3 ай бұрын
Gimmick. How about the option of refueling!
@mikey380sx
@mikey380sx 2 жыл бұрын
just sat down with my dinner. Good timing Tommo!
@SeanfromSydney
@SeanfromSydney 2 жыл бұрын
same! we got lamb and some caesar salad going!
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
What you having?
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeanfromSydney Ooosh
@mikey380sx
@mikey380sx 2 жыл бұрын
@@TommoMcCluskey I could lie and say something elaborate but honestly im having noodles haha
@WKBacon
@WKBacon 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikey380sx I’m having the same!
@denmarkYT
@denmarkYT 2 жыл бұрын
I love your track redesigns, please do more of them!❤
@rossie9651
@rossie9651 2 жыл бұрын
F1 really do need a Top 10 Shootout System Like Supercars (AUS) Would be such a great Spectacle
@iBoss818
@iBoss818 2 жыл бұрын
This video has so much yes. If they did all of this, Monaco wouldn't lose its prestige, its mojo or anything else. It would just be moving on with time and making changes for the better. ACM, please listen to this man!
@stefanaydon-white430
@stefanaydon-white430 2 жыл бұрын
“This is not a video game, its real life” This sir earned as a first time viewer my absolute respect.
@Icaru512
@Icaru512 2 жыл бұрын
what i think they should do is remove the nub on the beginning of the uphill and let the drivers speed up even more for some more action on the section before the 180
@digimanga
@digimanga 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think we can have everyone race in lawnmowers on sunday instead? 😂
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Quali on lawnmowers would be dope
@Allblue1
@Allblue1 2 жыл бұрын
Or go karts i always wanted this
@konos3951
@konos3951 2 жыл бұрын
Tommo, I like these videos so much more than your pre/post race videos because there's no chat to drag you down. I find myself having a good chuckle so much more often during these types of videos. Keep up the entertainment and don't let the turkeys drag you down!
@DJ_Drakon
@DJ_Drakon 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the split qualifying is not just an Indy 500 thing. Given how many cars are in Indycar races, they actually do split qualifying at every race and then the final 6 do a shootout for the top positions. Very exciting stuff.
@_autoverse
@_autoverse 2 жыл бұрын
Your vid popped up in my suggestion feed, first time I’ve watched your stuff. I agree with your critique of the broadcasting constraints and the ACM. Your suggestion for qualifying session sounds like it would keep drivers, spectators and the sponsors happy. General feedback: The visual style you’ve got with the transitions looks smart.
@mung710
@mung710 2 жыл бұрын
Any "circuit" that you have to make up special rules for, or fundamentally change, just to make watchable is no longer somewhere that a series should still be racing at. Either change the whole layout, or bin it for a new (older) track.
@JonDoe-ln6nl
@JonDoe-ln6nl 3 ай бұрын
Bingo!
@atbj23
@atbj23 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, also can extend the track at Rascasse along the dock to create another hairpin and eliminate the headaches around spinning/pitting there
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 2 жыл бұрын
monaco is know for its own television " tele monte carlo", in 90s they were broadcasting all races from all categories without any ad. they're passionnate of television as much as race cars. but few years ago tele monte carlo has been sold to a big company and is not located in monaco anymore. however, they still have talents and experience of producing race events.
@nathanthomas8222
@nathanthomas8222 2 жыл бұрын
Bin off the swimming pool section and the chicane after the tunnel. Straight blast from Tabac to La Rascase. Even better, revert back to the track as shown in the film Grand Prix. 45 second per lap but it worked in Bahrain
@sergiofletcher7567
@sergiofletcher7567 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hey i did a video on this earlier this year and we came up with exactly the same solutions, i had one more, you can widen the entry to rascasse by like 3 metres, which would give drivers an even bigger chance there.
@r1ckyy-
@r1ckyy- 2 жыл бұрын
1:44 hey, that's when my birthday is! I remember hearing out the news about the 24-races calendar a month ago.
@JZ0ver
@JZ0ver 2 жыл бұрын
I think I have heard some kind of joker lap too, that would be also nice to see alongside with your modifications!
@elliswellington4553
@elliswellington4553 2 жыл бұрын
This would literally fix Monaco. I don't think mandating a 2 stop would be something the teams would be happy with so can't see it happening. The track modifications are definitely a good idea,.and I would love to see one-shot qualifying around Monaco.
@TheAwsomeSawse
@TheAwsomeSawse 2 жыл бұрын
I think Monaco should be the one race a year that we put all the drivers into identical go karts and let them go at it.
@Ofitus21
@Ofitus21 2 жыл бұрын
1 lap shootout qualifying is awesome. I'd replace Q3 for a top 10 shootout... everywhere. I absolutely adore the all or nothing approach of 1 lap qualifying, and the fact you get to watch all laps... chef's kiss
@GarethDoust
@GarethDoust 2 жыл бұрын
V8 Supercars in Australia have done a top 10 shootout at Bathurst for years now and that would work an absolute treat at Monaco. Normal q1 & q2 and then run a top 10 shootout...each car gets one lap only, no other cars on track and no second chances.
@radiocontrolgreg
@radiocontrolgreg 2 жыл бұрын
Don't change away from Q1,2,3, just red flag any wrecks and mandate another chunk of time for final laps to be put in, kinda like NASCAR does green/white/checker to ensure the fans get show. This would means teams might need to refuel a bit if there's a couple of these red flag situations, but they will already be in the pit lane where refueling could be accomplished with a quick park in their garages. Love the suggestions on track layout changes, TV feed directing, and pit stop mandates.
@zaphod4245
@zaphod4245 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with 1 shot for monaco, but tbh I think just use the same system as we have now but replace Q3 with the one shot. Having the top 10 go in reverse order based on Q2 times.
@Connor_Spinks
@Connor_Spinks 2 жыл бұрын
Tommo what an incredible qualifiying idea!! Ive been vouching for a top 10 one shot qualy at Monaco for years, but this idea is even better!! They do a top 10 shootout every year for the Bathurst 1000, the biggest motor race here in Aus, and it's one of the highlights of the season. Man vs Track at the ultimate drivers track. If they did this at Monaco it would be one of the highlights of the entire season.
@AnonymousCaveman
@AnonymousCaveman 2 жыл бұрын
I do think now they have got the safety standards of the car, they are finding ways to make the cars smaller again and that's a major issue with the track. I agree to changing bits on the track but we need to get these cars smaller and focus on compacting the package.
@DiegoRuiz1991
@DiegoRuiz1991 2 жыл бұрын
Here's another great semi-realistic change (it'd be expensive): · Slightly reshape the dock so you can go from Tabac straight to the current 2nd part of the Swimming pool (we'd be missing the iconic fast left-right) to have another semi-possible overtaking opportunity
@eddaniell1324
@eddaniell1324 2 жыл бұрын
All good points, F1 could VERY eaisly incoperate erything except the chicane change (still do-able tho) but all other points added up would make a much more interesting race with little effort on the organiser's behalf! Yet another God Tier video from Tommo, we love to see it!
@danijelteslic8258
@danijelteslic8258 2 жыл бұрын
Love the quali idea, that would be absolutely EPIC! Also, Nouvelle chicane/roundabout combo, that would probably do it. Always loved Monaco on an F1 game, it is really fun from a drivers perspective (plus it's a game so of course there are some crazy overtakes) but IRL it's just a procession.
@cesaresteinle920
@cesaresteinle920 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommo I’m part of the Monaco enjoyers and was relieved when they announced the new deal. I really like your ideas (especially the quali) and hope the ACM and F1 will watch this video. Let’s hope for a long future to come for this iconic GP
@joet6619
@joet6619 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at the bigger picture of the entire City there is much more room to expand the track outside of the current track limits. The harbour section can be expanded, the upper section around the casino square can also be extended. They need to tweak the track layout to make the track longer.
@johndecoster3054
@johndecoster3054 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid, Tommo. Enjoyable editing too. Keep going, buddy!
@TommoMcCluskey
@TommoMcCluskey 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John!
@tothbenedek2028
@tothbenedek2028 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought about the roundabout many times. What I would do on the track is remove the sidewalk on the left of the first turn's braking zone, so drivers don't have to turn the wheel when braking. (There would be enough space to walk there anyway) Between turn 1 and Portier, there is nothing to do. I would also put the roundabout in the circuit. Longer track by 20 meters and better accelerating into the tunnel. And the key to have drs in the tunnel is to cut a little bit the turn in the tunnel, so it would not be that dangerous with drs. It is expensive, but neccessary. So now we have a longer track by 20 meters, better accelerating and drs. That makes the chicane a good overtaking zone and there would be no need to move the chicane back. The next thing what I would do is steal some space from the sea and make turn 13, 14 almost completely straight. Turn 15, 16 would not be on the place where it is now. The track would keep going on the part where there is grandstand now, and there would be a left-right chicane before turn 18. Some space from the sea would be needed for that, but it is possible. The last change on the track would be the removing of turn 19 and make it a flat out, so there would be more speed on the main straight and it makes turn 1 a better overtaking zone. And as I said turn 1 is even changed a little bit for overtaking. I would hold two practices on Thursday, Friday would be free. On Saturday morning there would be the first qualifying. 10 drivers first, 10 drivers after. In the afternoon there would be the fast-12 just like Tommo said. I would not make the Monaco GP a 2 times pit stop race. What I would do is make the Monaco GP also 305 kilometers long, just like every single race in the calendar. It would be a long race, but come on... It's Monaco. In the past it was 100 laps long with slower cars. That 305 km distance would make the teams change tires two times anyway. It is 260 kms now and 78 laps. That 305 kms would be 92 laps, so then why shouldn't we complete 100 laps?! Of cource the 2 hour race limit and the 3 hour event limit would be off in Monaco. Let's make Monaco as great as Le Mans and Indy 500. Monaco deserves to be a great race in the triple crown. (Sorry if I wasn't clear somewhere. English is not my mother tongue.)
@Telecasterland
@Telecasterland 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, you have me. This quali idea is literally perfect. Slight track adjustments good too.
@markbildner2163
@markbildner2163 2 жыл бұрын
Love your Qualy ideas, but I'd go one further. Make the entire weekend a Qualy tournament, with brackets. Award full points. Just fast cars ripping through the old town, 100% at the limit. Also regarding qualy fairness, Indy 500 has a format.
@Marco-ce8kr
@Marco-ce8kr 2 жыл бұрын
Race weekend: 4 days. Qualifiyng under the scheme of one pilot for each team into 2 groups as you said: Three laps for each pilot, 1st out lap, 2nd fast lap and the 3er the qualifying lap. Two races of 35 or 40 laps, first one with the inverted order of qualiying with points according the position obtained as incentives (10, 9,8,7 and so on) maybe on Saturday afternoon. The 2nd one with the results of the first one as the grid on Sunday with full points. There is so many ways to improve this race weekend in Monaco.
@carcrazyguysa4059
@carcrazyguysa4059 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe qualifying where each driver gets a chance to have the track to themselves with one out lap and one flying lap.
@Drenwickification
@Drenwickification 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree but I think with the chicane it needs to be made wider as well. It just seems too tight to really be a proper overtaking spot, if they were going to create new harbour to move it down then make enough room so it can also have more space going through the chicane for overtakes, maybe don’t have a barrier right on the inside so cars can slightly jump over the kerbs
@heihangli3821
@heihangli3821 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like some sort of quali format akin to the MotoGP qualifying could work in Monaco. Split the quali groups using aggregate time of the FP sessions, then the top 2 in Q1 could progress into Q2. It limits cars on track whilst also encouraging the drivers in Q1 to push for Q2. That could work no?
@rhyshutchin5
@rhyshutchin5 2 жыл бұрын
I think Monaco could take some inspiration with our (Aussies) Bathurst 1000 The whole grid has a 1 long qualifying session (30-45mins I reckon) and then the top 10 go for broke in a shoot out for pole, with the other drivers 11 downwards retaining their order from the large qualifying session. The way the Bathurst 1000 have their top 10 shoot out setup is nothing short of exhilarating. 1 car getting full coverage completing their lap, but! Whilst their on the 2nd half of the track coming to an end of the lap, the next car is already on track warming their tires and preping so that when the 1st car finished the coverage pans straight to the next car seconds before they start their lap. No ads or unnecessary breaks in the broadcast, just straight action the whole way through the shoot out (unless there's a crash of course)
@B.SpeedRacing
@B.SpeedRacing 2 жыл бұрын
I like your top 12 shootout idea. I'm from Australia and this shootout idea is what we use for our biggest race in Australia called the Bathurst 1000. the top 10 shootout is crazy to watch and I think the shootout idea would be brilliant for f1.
@carlettienne2596
@carlettienne2596 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video with some interesting ideas although I think chain bear also made a video and also suggested some changes that I'd prefer tbh
@vatsaldvora
@vatsaldvora 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work mate. Agree with all of your points 👍🏻
@ChrisJones-hv7mo
@ChrisJones-hv7mo 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a split for initial qualifying. A Bathurst-style top 10 shootout would also do very well as you implied. Yes, #10 to #1 depending on previous times. Each driver would be on the track about 6 minutes but you can overlap out and in laps. If all runs smoothly you get about 35 minutes of shootout. As for track layout changes, seems fine to me. Just sell a confiscated Russian mega-yacht and you have the funds to relocate the chicane. ;->
@MAINFRAMELaboratories
@MAINFRAMELaboratories 2 жыл бұрын
Spa and Monza are so great because they have historical value AND are an amazing racing track. Monaco literally just has historic value.
@pranc236
@pranc236 2 жыл бұрын
Great ideas tommo. Quaily format would be cool. Move the chicane also would be great. Id like to see them open up floor designs and make the cars smaller. Like 85% of the current size. The point of ground effect is to create the downforce from the floor so we have less aero wash, so let the teams develop better floors!
@samturpie1756
@samturpie1756 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly just building more harbour would help a lot. Could easily make the track wider, the chicane would work much better if it was a little bit wider. Tabac and the swimming pool section could be made quicker and end up with heavier breaking for the final few corners
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd 2 жыл бұрын
Quali definitely needs some sort of change for Monaco. I am happy with a one-shot job, but I think that the FE quali could spice it up a little, with the "duel" format. But they're still essentially alone, at least during their runs. I am not in favour of DRS appearing in the tunnel. It's a safety issue, especially with the modern cars which can run even closer. But a few track changes would be a good thing. Chainbear did an interesting video on just that subject (iirc it was only that, but it complements this video really well). Tbh, despite Graham Hill's last ever race at Monaco being the first one I have any memory of (and that in "snapshots"), I wouldn't miss it.
@gre4ny214
@gre4ny214 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of 2 mandated stop through all races then we can have tyres that they can push on
@OVmoney
@OVmoney 5 ай бұрын
Slight adjustment: have an A and B group for Q1 but let the teams decide which car is in which group that way you add a bit of tire strategy, intrigue, and F1 commentary to those that believe in track evolution.
@huwmo
@huwmo 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I feel that would bring back some hype to Monaco is a mandatory throwback livery doesn’t matter if the team has been around for ages like Ferrari or are newer like Haas all they have to do is work with the sponsors and choose an era of cars other than cars post 2010 and make a cool livery for the race as a one off
@bayandaimran
@bayandaimran 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, Monaco needs a new street circuit track layout. The roundabout is a good idea, but I think it needs a complete new track layout on different streets of Monaco but hey I think your suggestions are better than mine Tommo
@KingWeir
@KingWeir 2 жыл бұрын
They should add a joker lap(s), that adds in more strategy and intrigue.
@corydiamond511
@corydiamond511 2 жыл бұрын
Supercars do that qualifying for Bathurst . The top ten shoot out is a highlight of the weekend . Its a little different as the main qualifying is done on Friday then the top ten shoot out is Saturday so it gives the teams time to alter the car . But still ,, it’s exciting
@walterclements7968
@walterclements7968 2 жыл бұрын
with qualifying i'd say do it 50/50 based on the standings in the WDC. Builds up the tension as the fastest drivers are later. There will have to be a long enough break so that the track is not warmer for the better drivers to make it easier for them
@pablohabibefigueiredo7142
@pablohabibefigueiredo7142 5 ай бұрын
Your idea (add the roundabout + moving the nouvelle chicane) is great. I believe the chicane could be moved way more ahead. There is a lot of space behind it for safety...
@jagadishtsgowda
@jagadishtsgowda 2 жыл бұрын
I would say qualifying in general can be improved by making slight modification to your idea. 2 groups of 10 cars race around in 2 different slots and separate the top 5 and bottom 5 from each group. The bottom 10 now fight in a session to find the order in P11-P20, and top 10 will fight for order in P1-P10. Total 4 sessions may be 10mins each. It will be exciting and even teams ending up in P11-P20 will make some effort to stay as higher as possible And track evolution is also somewhat taken care of
@Ballaam
@Ballaam 2 жыл бұрын
Alternative to your "extend the straight to the chicane", perhaps remove the fairmont hairpin. I feel like it puts cars in single-file which doesn't help with the run down to the chicane. The unfortunate downside is that looking on google maps, there's no easy way to do this. Ideally though, you'd have the right hander of mirabeau that would be less of a right-hander as it goes straight for the right-hander before the tunnel. Could also be interesting with the elevation change being somewhat substantial. Additionally, since mirabeau would become a kink rather than a hard turn, that straight effectively becomes longer and could become another overtaking spot...
@VirtualGobllim47
@VirtualGobllim47 2 жыл бұрын
There is ONE THING in the Monaco transmission that is great, since there is little space the camera's are put higher and you have a better angle to see the track, normally the camera is almost parallel to the track and you can't see what's going on
@theunreadcomment9834
@theunreadcomment9834 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly I recommend watching Chain Bears video on this topic, he also had some good ideas. I think that Monaco, to remain 'special', needs to be a special one off annual event in the middle of the season, rather than a standard race, given the trouble with overtaking. Maybe something like a time trial challenge. Another place which I think the track could be changed is between the swimming pool section and rasscasse. If you remove the second chicane at the swimming pool, because its slow and clunky and the run up to rasscasse is just 1 car wide, then swap the grandstand over to what is currently the track and have the cars run where the grandstand is now, then you get a quick run out of the first part of swimmimg pool with a straight down to rasscasse where someone following may be able to make a move in the braking. I would also like to see more of an interactive element in F1 generally with the cameras. You should be able to splitscreen so you get the broadcast cameras on one part and maybe also have up to 3 other cameras on the go too, so you can pick and choose what action you want to watch at any point
@salim_abid_
@salim_abid_ 2 жыл бұрын
I added my comment before the ending of the video, I do love the changes you’ve made, Perhaps the roundabout change and my suggested restructure of the harbour so we can have a proper overtaking opportunity with plenty of space to make a move and less collision risk
@sr71sr71
@sr71sr71 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoy these ideas. This would make the race a lot more fun, adding more driver challenge to this and in the end, making a better product! Well done!
@danielwakelyngreen8675
@danielwakelyngreen8675 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with this. It would be so good to watch each driver. It would be tense. Make the sport more fun interesting
@fraserposford144
@fraserposford144 2 жыл бұрын
As for the track changes themselves, I like the sound of those as well but I imagine safety becomes a factor with all of them. It's tricky carrying so much speed through such tight, narrow streets, a potential accident waiting to happen with the lack run off available on the circuit.
@MalloryMinerva
@MalloryMinerva 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea: go with the roundabout idea from the video, but also abolish the nouvelle chicane, that way you have a properly lengthy straight, with a DRS zone. That way, you get DRS overtakes.
@_Razpberrie
@_Razpberrie 2 жыл бұрын
For qualifying they should do like a shoot out where every driver goes out alone and has one chance to set a lap. Base the order on championship position. Its good for sponsorship as well because every car has full lap coverage and adds some unpredictability and higher stakes by only having one chance.
@crazycoasterboi8176
@crazycoasterboi8176 2 жыл бұрын
I think a one shot quali could work here and at sprint race weekends. I think if they gave each driver two shots at a lap (reduce mixed up grid from mistakes). Then once one driver crosses the line, the next one is sent on their warmup lap to reduce time between laps Ex: Lap one: Tsunoda warm up Lap two: Tsunoda flying lap Lap three: Tsunoda cooldown and Stroll Warmup Lap four: Stroll flying lap Etc
@D_4_N_
@D_4_N_ 2 жыл бұрын
in 1 shot qualy, could send them out in reverse championship table order, with the leader going out last. makes being ahead in points pay dividends by giving a slight track evolution advantage.
@ENW08
@ENW08 2 жыл бұрын
two-group split qualifying isnt just the indy 500, its all of indycar. on road courses they run two groups, then the fastest 6 of of each group move on to round 2, then the remaining top 6 shoot out for pole in round 3. its a great format and real fun to watch honestly the groups are decided by the drivers’ final times in practice 3. even positions one group, odds the other, and the fastest practice 3 driver decides which group goes first
@derosiflo6524
@derosiflo6524 2 жыл бұрын
more artificial land is being built above the ocean before the tunnel. maybe it'd be possible to extend the track to there (basically instead of your roundabout-extension idea). ofc depending on what buildings there are, if the safety measures can be applied, if it'll be big enough etc. A classic hairpin would work to make another hard braking point maybe
@bpinsf
@bpinsf 2 жыл бұрын
Ditch the Nouvelle Chicane entirely and continue the straight all the way to Tabac. Start without DRS, but if there isn't passing, add a zone starting at the exit of the tunnel with the detection point at the beginning of the tunnel.
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