40 Million People Rely on the Colorado River, and Now It's Drying Up

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@GTM9164
@GTM9164 3 жыл бұрын
farmers don't have water but I bet all those AZ golf course still do...
@hmu958
@hmu958 3 жыл бұрын
Pay to play. Food is so undervalued that farmers can't pay for water rights, use, or trucking that golf courses can.
@MatthewBaran
@MatthewBaran 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely stop the stupid golf courses. I like to golf but they're parasitically leeching water
@nyx7842
@nyx7842 3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna cause violence. When you have rich golfers take up most water while you are left to rot, doesn't seem like a recipe for success. Doesn't matter what your political leanings, it'll still piss you off.
@MatthewBaran
@MatthewBaran 3 жыл бұрын
@@nyx7842 eat the rich.
@MatthewBaran
@MatthewBaran 3 жыл бұрын
@Eidelmania still wasted water
@JupiterRadio
@JupiterRadio 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Navajo reservation, a community 2 miles south of Page, AZ. Lake Powell has been low for a long time and it's only getting worse. But a lot of people from Page or other "civilized" communities around here make fun of us Navajo for not having grass or pools. This is a desert. Water needs to be reserved for crops, plumbing, and drinking water. Not golf courses, pools, and "lawn of the month".
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 2 жыл бұрын
The white man has always been materialistic
@christopherd.337
@christopherd.337 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe PGA golf course should look into installing artificial turf on parts of their course's. The way football and most baseball stadium do. Just a thought. But these golf course should be regulated on how much water they are allowed to use. But won't happen because money talks.
@lelandthomosoniii4743
@lelandthomosoniii4743 2 жыл бұрын
Smart
@christopherd.337
@christopherd.337 2 жыл бұрын
@Sheps true true.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherd.337 many use reclaimed water- do you know what THAT is??
@JWhisp
@JWhisp 3 жыл бұрын
Golf courses and monoculture grass lawns especially in such a hot and arid climate is just an absolutely idiotic waste of water. Water for drinking and farming is much more important
@pudanielson1
@pudanielson1 3 жыл бұрын
70% of water is used for farming, in the middle of the desert
@russcollar5353
@russcollar5353 3 жыл бұрын
Not farming alfalfa or cotton or anything except vegetables. The very idea that someone would grow alfalfa or cotton in a desert is ludicrous I hope they all go bankrupt sooner rather than later. Poor idiots.
@nunya2954
@nunya2954 3 жыл бұрын
@@russcollar5353 - WHY are we growing anything in a desert/arid region?
@HondoTrailside
@HondoTrailside 3 жыл бұрын
It is always someone else's problems. Conserve water yourselves.
@marcussurleyadventures1928
@marcussurleyadventures1928 3 жыл бұрын
To have a farm in the middle of the desert is plain dumb
@garldeenlinche1418
@garldeenlinche1418 2 жыл бұрын
Abuse, not storing and plain polluting it has brought us to this point like Egypt Nile rive . Pumping water for golf courses, hotel water false, private pond for housing complexes, water for filthy rich to squander, easter for pools or for just anything not relevant to drinking or farming or bathing really isn't necessary .
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 2 жыл бұрын
and all those floods- you forgot to mention the floods.....
@axelramirez6730
@axelramirez6730 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny how you make really good points that make sense but there will always be that person in the comments and in life committed to fighting the cold hard truth out of pure denial. instead of fighting the problem itself
@llibressal
@llibressal 2 жыл бұрын
@@axelramirez6730 Farms use 80% of the Colorado flow. The problem isn't golf courses and swimming pools in the desert.
@axelramirez6730
@axelramirez6730 2 жыл бұрын
@@llibressal " I will fight these hard facts to the death! Because depleting water and dehydration is democratic propaganda!!" Lol ok bro
@burgrboyontheroof
@burgrboyontheroof 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like, building cities in the desert and then filling them with millions of people is counter intuitive, or something.
@ronandpatd5980
@ronandpatd5980 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@hanovergreen4091
@hanovergreen4091 3 жыл бұрын
:D :D :D
@navajodoll6320
@navajodoll6320 3 жыл бұрын
This is why natives wouldn’t create huge cities. Unsustainable. Wasteful . Bad for the ecosystem .
@yoshi450gmail
@yoshi450gmail 3 жыл бұрын
This is why natives collected rain water and didn’t waste more water in each flush then they would drink in an entire day.
@fatguy6153
@fatguy6153 3 жыл бұрын
@@navajodoll6320 No, natives most definitely had large cities, I don’t get why people assume that they were too primitive to establish their own civilizations. It is either racism, ignorance, or even both.
@xotiic4229
@xotiic4229 3 жыл бұрын
if you’re aware of everything going on around the world, and then see how fast this river is drying up, anybody with common sense can see how fucked we are
@LxneWxlf702
@LxneWxlf702 3 жыл бұрын
Lot of people dont see it...some people thinks its whatever, " they're going to resolve it "....in reality we are fucked and theres no point of return.
@theaustinomaster
@theaustinomaster 3 жыл бұрын
As someone doing a chemical engineering degree with focus on environmental sustainability it's sad to see a lot of ppl similar age to me thinking there's really nothing we can do to alter the course of climate change when that isn't the case, it just sucks because the large corporations that are responsible for so much of the emissions are part of huge lobbying groups with a lot of influence on government policies
@laurenz4528
@laurenz4528 3 жыл бұрын
Nah US water usage is just beyond mad
@xotiic4229
@xotiic4229 3 жыл бұрын
@@theaustinomaster if it doesn’t become an inconvenience for the big polluters and the rich, very little will change
@theaustinomaster
@theaustinomaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurenz4528 it compounds to make the problem a bunch worse, the Colorado is dammed so much which doesn't help the water levels but you'd have to be living under a rock to not notice the rise in global temperatures and how frequent extreme weather events are becoming
@squid_fish
@squid_fish 3 жыл бұрын
People move to AZ and all they want is AC, water, paradise green grass and “freedom”…it’s a desert.
@crowlsyong
@crowlsyong 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The problem is not the golf courses, it's the decision to actually live in a desert. It's literally drying up and they still won't accept defeat. Those who stay in Arizona will suffer the consequences of their actions. I feel bad for the children and wildlife.
@NevadaSmith2
@NevadaSmith2 3 жыл бұрын
My in laws left for Arizona ten years ago for said fReEdOm and it just baffles my mind. They have to get in their RV and head to the Oregon Coast every summer for 4-5 months because it’s simply uninhabitable in the summer in AZ.
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 3 жыл бұрын
According to the Census 2020 Phoenix has by-passed Philadelphia as the 5th largest city. Although Philly and its "collar" counties also grew ,the city still fell short. But, Phila. isn't going to go dry like Phoenix will. There are climate change concerns though. Parts of Phila. will likely be underwater sometime in the future.
@nosomnesmentitisunt2043
@nosomnesmentitisunt2043 3 жыл бұрын
FREEDOM should be first on that list without this you have nothing!
@johnbeh9795
@johnbeh9795 3 жыл бұрын
Most of that water is used in California not arizona.
@gladegoodrich2297
@gladegoodrich2297 2 жыл бұрын
Looking down at the river from the north rim I'm amazed how small it is. How can it supply water for all those people and farms?
@ryannechvatal9888
@ryannechvatal9888 2 жыл бұрын
Ground water is used as well
@marcosayala4828
@marcosayala4828 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t let big companies tell you to do your part in fighting against this when they’re about 70% of the problem.
@seibertsmiths
@seibertsmiths 3 жыл бұрын
Who do you think buys those big companies products?
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415
@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 3 жыл бұрын
Down with the corporations!
@kanethompson708
@kanethompson708 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@palehorserider1407
@palehorserider1407 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly climate is not changing its being engineered !!! They have been spraying the skies for years !! Look up Bill Gates been talking about blocking out the sun for the longest ! Chemtrails use to be a conspiracy theory till government came out and said we are blocking out the sun bcuz of climate change bs !!!
@davidbeaulieu4815
@davidbeaulieu4815 3 жыл бұрын
@@seibertsmiths people like you.
@AkureiNoKaras
@AkureiNoKaras 3 жыл бұрын
the first cutback should be businesses like golf courses, things that waste water. Farmers need water more than rich people need to golf or homes need green lawns when they build in the desert.
@JohnnyKarate44
@JohnnyKarate44 3 жыл бұрын
Agriculture uses 70% of all water usage. Don’t grow crops in the desert. I agree with you on all points, but irrigation in a DESERT is a bad idea.
@danielmartin7197
@danielmartin7197 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyKarate44 Agree. Specially high water use crops such as Alfalfa, that is just dumb.
@americanhero8606
@americanhero8606 3 жыл бұрын
Certain crops need to be banned or strictly curbed. Water reservoirs and underground well access need to be taxed in order to push the unproductive and wasteful water hogs to cut down on usage. Water is too precious of a resource to just leave untaxed and unregulated.
@bencera6067
@bencera6067 3 жыл бұрын
Yup cut the golf courses and other wasteful yuppy corporate BS.
@bigdog2352
@bigdog2352 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more but corps will go other places an make it a problem some were else
@hedleykerr3564
@hedleykerr3564 3 жыл бұрын
"When the well is dry you will know the worth of the water" Benjamin Franklin!
@TermlessHGW
@TermlessHGW 3 жыл бұрын
Also they should seriously consider doing something about people, in NYC only in the black neighborhoods, who open up fire hydrants and let tons of fresh water just run down the streets sometimes days at a time. Thinking about it what a paradox. Millions of people in the mother continent are without fresh water and yet here they are so wasteful...
@Mk101T
@Mk101T 3 жыл бұрын
@@TermlessHGW Chances are the water of the fire hydrant would have flowed through there naturally . You need to get hydrolically educated ... before you start thinking you can make water decisions. Geeologee baybee
@doobidoo095
@doobidoo095 3 жыл бұрын
CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2,500"C of heat energy. That is impossible. It also breaks the fundamental laws of thermodynamics. Methane at 0.00017% is a 600,000th of the atmosphere so it's even more impossible. However, the climate is changing. This is because of deliberate geoengineering programmes, in particular ozone thinning away from the poles. Though largely unreported ozone thinning effect is directly observable, this summer you can see a unnaturally bright sun just as we did last year. Under these conditions the pain felt when looking at the sun is not only from the increase in visible light but the much larger increase in infrared. (Look up at the sky and you will see a range of geoengineering operations in progress, these include chemtrail induced cloud or hazing, ripple patterns caused by HAARP installations, bizarre and unnatural cloud formations). Climate change is a programme to force change in accordance with the implementation of Agenda 21 /2030. Current events demonstrate this transition is well underway and will involve massive population cull through injected nanotech (re transhumanist programme). Agenda 21 also sees the permanent loss of all property rights with the introduction of universal basic income (ref NESARA/GESARA) and has/is being promoted by The World Economic Forum. 'You will own nothing and you will be happy' WEF In a depopulated world the surviving brainwashed and controlled population will be confined to mega cities. Carbon limits will be used to restrict consumption and liberty. Meanwhile the re-greened wilderness will be the exclusive playground of the ultra rich elite posing as conservationists. The CO2 hoax amounts to the theft of the world and the enslavement of humanity by a parasitic few. Welcome to the future! _________ I have included a debunking of 'accumulated heat' as it is so often used to explain how trace elements, so called 'greenhouse gasses', can warm the planet. Accumulated heat whilst sounding a reasonable explanation of how heat can build up is rather nothing more than gobbledygook. In fact it shows those using such arguments do not even understand what heat is. When we measure temperature we are measuring the heat energy a thing is losing. In short heat is a measurement of flow, the transfer of heat energy and this will always be in the direction towards the colder. For this reason a thing can never 'accumulate heat' in the way those advocating CO2 climate change describe. The temperature of a body is the measure of heat output, it can never be greater than the measure of heat input. Output = input. When a thing is warmed it is heated to an equivalent of the heat input. If this input is not maintained it will cool. Those that propose that heat can build up to be hotter than the total measure of heat input at a given time either do not understand what heat is or are being deliberately misleading. To illustrate, an object being heated by a flame can never become hotter than that flame, it's temperature cannot rise inexorably to the temperature of the sun for instance. Heat cannot be accumulated. When we think about it common sense tells us this must be the case. NASA and even Nobel Prize winning physicists have expounded 'accumulated heat' as the explanation how CO2 is able to warm the atmosphere. They claim that over hundreds of years CO2 has captured heat energy and this heat has 'accumulated' to produce a serious warming effect. As I have just explained, this is totally impossible and fundamentally violates all the laws of thermodynamics. That respected scientists should support such uneducated, unthinking nonsense is disturbing and only reflects that in terms of being able to think clearly about a subject they have no facility or inclination. These are the Dark Ages of science. Belief has outweighed logic or any critical thought. It tells us that we should not unquestioningly accept anything we are told, that experts can be fools. (NB: be aware of attempts to discard thermodynamics by talking about biology. Eg. 'It only takes a drop of arsenic to kill a person.' This would be somewhat desperate, muddled thinking. Clearly biological processes based on the reaction of a cell are not the same as the laws of physics/thermodynamics).
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 3 жыл бұрын
It will make gold look worthless
@danielservant0153
@danielservant0153 3 жыл бұрын
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@roberth3094
@roberth3094 2 жыл бұрын
The colorado river is not made, nor does it have the resources to supply 40 million plus people. Even historic snowfall will not be able to keep up with demand. None of the western water sources are able to keep up with the increased demand. The solution is to use desalination or pipeline infrastructure from water-rich states.
@randomguy1017
@randomguy1017 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy to think that in just 200 years this dam will be the site of the largest battle seen between the New California Republic and Caesar's Legion
@nearby222
@nearby222 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@hollow6189
@hollow6189 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Bergen98
@Bergen98 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a *Fallout New Vegas* reference? Very nice
@ExtractionConisuer
@ExtractionConisuer 3 жыл бұрын
Do you like the site of your own blood?
@Toaster-v1z
@Toaster-v1z 3 жыл бұрын
It could be long dried up by that time. I'd expect the war to be fought over the Great Lakes.
@blastfiend7478
@blastfiend7478 3 жыл бұрын
Same shits happening to our rivers here in Australia - the cotton industry has basically destroyed the Murray river and it’s ecosystem
@factanonverba7547
@factanonverba7547 3 жыл бұрын
That and cats
@chaitanyarao5546
@chaitanyarao5546 3 жыл бұрын
@@factanonverba7547 I find it hilarious and fascinating that Australia rages war on cats and emus. They even have the World's longest fence to protect against Dingos.
@johndough23
@johndough23 3 жыл бұрын
Disposable clothing...made to wear out and disintegrate on a time schedule. Those practices should be outlawed Globally. Planned Obsolescence needs to go ASAP.
@factanonverba7547
@factanonverba7547 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaitanyarao5546 they call them invasive species, but we all are. Cats rule, dingos drool
@shredderly
@shredderly 3 жыл бұрын
same happened with the Aral sea.
@snowmiaow
@snowmiaow 3 жыл бұрын
When l visited the Southwest in the 80s, they used water like crazy, trying to get the desert to look like Ohio. l found that disturbing.
@bhalps
@bhalps 3 жыл бұрын
did you also find it disturbing that the farmers think the water is better spent on their crops and their way of life than on humanity itself?
@MagicalBread
@MagicalBread 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhalps You have no idea how important food is. Food is a life line. It’s our fault that farmers have to grow so much because we Americans are greedy and ungrateful. We take everything for granted.
@bhalps
@bhalps 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MagicalBread I'm a specialist in Human Geography. Food cultivation in the SW is not as important as water. And just shouting into the air American's are greedy is BS. The farmers in California and the SW are the worst, they grow some of the least important most water intense crops, in a desert! Just look up how much water cotton takes, how much water avocados require, how much water almonds require. It's a joke, because California used to look like the Ole South with its orange orchards... which required virtually no water in comparison. Also do we need to grow cotton in the SW? No, we do enough of that in other areas in the US, where water is plentiful. Sure Vice news likes to say they're "alfalfa" farmers, but its that kind of propaganda and mismanagement that have lead the SW to be in this position. Hold the Farmers accountable for their mistakes in the SW
@apocalypsepow
@apocalypsepow 3 жыл бұрын
@@MagicalBread doesn't the us waste like 40 percent of their food.
@lexwaldez
@lexwaldez 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhalps crops that are heavily subsidized by taxpayers... it's a rational decision from their perspective, but it's morally bankrupt
@khakicampbell6640
@khakicampbell6640 2 жыл бұрын
"All of us are concerned, but I also have a lot of faith in the people working on the problem." lol 🤣🙄 I've long since lost faith in those people!
@coke8077
@coke8077 3 жыл бұрын
it’s almost like building farms and massive cities in the fucking desert isn’t a good idea
@sownheard
@sownheard 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like deserts get created by a lack of water
@Kektamusprime
@Kektamusprime 3 жыл бұрын
massive cities anywhere are a mistake, most societies/towns should never get over 3000 people
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 3 жыл бұрын
Dont blame the desert for human stupidity.
@lxndress
@lxndress 3 жыл бұрын
@Woody Woods lol precisely.
@linkspeaks
@linkspeaks 3 жыл бұрын
@@sownheard It was already a desert before the water shortage, that's a dumb argument
@patrickhealey7348
@patrickhealey7348 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely shocking that when you build massive city’s in a desert that water shortages will become a problem.
@dmannevada5981
@dmannevada5981 3 жыл бұрын
The cities aren't using the water. Cities like Las Vegas as part of Nevada, gets a 2% water allocation, and they're only using about 2/3rds of that allocation. So what made you think it was the cities...who told you that or how did you get that impression?
@bavondale
@bavondale 3 жыл бұрын
@@elira123100 You are the ignorant one. Dman is correct. The vast amount of water is used for agriculture. You can remove all the cities from the southwest and there will still be an issue. Farming, in a dry desert basin, is what is taking the water
@sterlingarcher7101
@sterlingarcher7101 2 жыл бұрын
@@elira123100 Stats literally show agriculture makes up anywhere from 60-80% of water usage depending on region, dummy.
@taurus8263
@taurus8263 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, so unexpected 🤣
@hallooos7585
@hallooos7585 2 жыл бұрын
@@elira123100 You clearly have zero clue on whats going on, it’s best for you to not say a single word here it’s clear that you aren’t smart enough to be here.
@MultiMojo
@MultiMojo 3 жыл бұрын
"We don't anticipate water levels below 950ft" - famous last words. Hope they have contingency plans
@daryl4307
@daryl4307 3 жыл бұрын
I remembered the first time i watched the film, "THE LORAX".
@dayglodoggy
@dayglodoggy 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for her to add "this year"
@happylittlesynth
@happylittlesynth 3 жыл бұрын
@J S Agreed. They are all fucked.
@Raysgarage90
@Raysgarage90 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sooo FAWKD :(
@mikehunt4797
@mikehunt4797 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks H.A.A.R.P.
@WayaWolf
@WayaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Not to be political, if there isn’t enough water for the amount of people who live in the u.s, then why is our government letting states decide what they want to do about abortion….
@ipwee
@ipwee 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that people have lush lawns in a desert is absurd.
@genyoder7566
@genyoder7566 3 жыл бұрын
Its called freedom. If you work hard and have your own property you should be able to have your own well on your own property.
@emceeboogieboots1608
@emceeboogieboots1608 3 жыл бұрын
@@genyoder7566 Suppose your neighbors sink deeper wells and grow cotton, making yours run dry?
@ipwee
@ipwee 3 жыл бұрын
@@genyoder7566 I have no idea what country you live in, But in the states, your property is subject to eminent domain. Besides that, Narcissistic behavior is nothing to be proud of.
@genyoder7566
@genyoder7566 3 жыл бұрын
@@ipwee not narcacitic its being fed up with the willingly ignorant fools handing America over to the globalist that want to depopulate it and steal th land. Imenent Domaine is an unconstitutional illegally concocted USA INC Usurpation by the shills in govt that don't get it that freedom is not up for negotiation ever! It is in the constitutions of every state and the nation that these rights are unalienable rights ! That means the Can Not be gone around changed taken away distorted unless proven in trial of your peers that you have tresspassed another man's rights, aka,, property natural or God given such as life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I am an American and I know I am free. This faux corporation is violation g all the laws of the land and the Nuremberg Codes set up so internationally they are not to usurp the right of any man woman or child, born or unborn! There diverting the rain and snow for nefarious purposes is not a light subject. Imenant domain laws are for _fools_ that gave up on the laws of this land.
@genyoder7566
@genyoder7566 3 жыл бұрын
@@emceeboogieboots1608 Americans need to start working together not looking for big brother to come save the day. That just invites problems like Iraq and Vietnam had by letting the C I A run its country for a while. WRK THINGS OUT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS YOUR SELF FIRST THENOF THEY DONT WORK WITH YOU YOU GIVE THEM NOTICE OF CIVIL ACTION OTHERWISE WITH TIME TO DECIDE TO NEGOTIATE A COMPROMISE.
@brianmacintire3064
@brianmacintire3064 3 жыл бұрын
The Colorado River is not "drying up". It is being sucked dry.
@sam-ww1wk
@sam-ww1wk 3 жыл бұрын
Yup!! Tired of people saying it's drying up. Uninformed news. Who are these guys. Probably from LA.
@LeesReviews69
@LeesReviews69 3 жыл бұрын
The Colorado river isn’t like a lake, it doesn’t get sucked dry. it is constantly being refilled. But there’s no freaking rain or snow to refill it.
@shaystern2453
@shaystern2453 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeesReviews69 When it's being drained faster then it can be replenished it is indeed being sucked dry. The river was at historically low levels, well before this drought hit.
@brianmacintire3064
@brianmacintire3064 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeesReviews69 It's a finite amount of water, and it's being sucked dry. There is no argument against that. Lack of snowpack only makes it worse. Water use is going up, snowpack has been going down. Rain doesn't do much for this river. It's driven by snowmelt.
@tedpreston4155
@tedpreston4155 2 жыл бұрын
Alfalfa and Cotton are exceptionally water-intensive crops. Growing those crops in the desert can ONLY work with copious amounts of irrigation water. Sand doesn't retain water in the root zone, so growing such thirsty crops requires regular irrigation. The flood irrigation methods that are so common in the desert are inexpensive, but they are also horrifically wasteful. Most of the water farmers flood across the sandy soil never reaches a plant's roots, because it simply runs deep into the sand. If farmers want to continue raising alfalfa and cotton in the desert into the future, they MUST adopt more efficient irrigation methods. In order to encourage farmers to adopt more efficient methods of irrigation, Congress has established funding to cover most of the expense of installing more efficient systems. And yet, even when taxpayers are covering most of the cost of efficient irrigation systems, and are also providing financing to help the farmer cover their small share, the farmers still won't update their irrigation equipment. They want cheap, plentiful water provided at taxpayer expense. They don't want to install sprinkler systems even when the taxpayers pay for most of that cost too. Why is it so hard to convince people that the benefits of living in a society come with responsibilities as well? The social contract is not a one-way street.
@FateTurns
@FateTurns 2 жыл бұрын
Because a large majority of people are taught to be selfish.
@tedpreston4155
@tedpreston4155 2 жыл бұрын
@@FateTurns You're right about that. I've traveled all over the world, and the most self-absorbed people I've met have been right here at home in the U.S.
@curiouscampbell5447
@curiouscampbell5447 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@cyrilsquirrel2874
@cyrilsquirrel2874 2 жыл бұрын
@@tedpreston4155 don't you believe it ,they are all over ..even mentioning to the middle class that their almond ''milk'' is unsustainable as a crop and is environmentally destructive will only draw a blank stare, that the fashion they discard daily is the same....but i will admit ,most of that farming is done in areas that are desert, which is crazy
@bassketchum
@bassketchum 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyrilsquirrel2874 all the real farmland has been bought out and put houses or mansions on by now.
@SolidGoldShows
@SolidGoldShows 2 жыл бұрын
No water for Farmers means less food for consumers and higher prices. It's coming! Be prepared...
@oldcountryman2795
@oldcountryman2795 3 жыл бұрын
Given that the Colorado river can’t support 40 million people *and* turn the deserts green, well DUH!
@markbrophy5454
@markbrophy5454 3 жыл бұрын
The river can easily support 40 million people, the farmers are using nearly all the water.
@kittenritty7959
@kittenritty7959 3 жыл бұрын
Especially since the petrified forest here and mass farming in the 30’s helped fuel the dust bowl and were getting rid of natural vegation for houses that will use more water. When it rains it’s gonna flood no natural barriers to stop the flow and take in the moisture.
@charleslindsay3201
@charleslindsay3201 3 жыл бұрын
golf courses and swimming pools in the desert-what's wrong with that picture?
@thedonketh3894
@thedonketh3894 3 жыл бұрын
@@markbrophy5454 obviously it cant support 40 million people. how do you think you feed all those people? through farmers
@crowlsyong
@crowlsyong 3 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho farmers farming in the desert. Golf course or not, these farmers are silly for trying to farm here. They had it coming, their intelligence is correlated to their suffering. Irrigation, killing soil, using pesticides, torturing animals, karma is catching up
@erwinbolink
@erwinbolink 3 жыл бұрын
The lady at the hoover dam sums up perfectly what is wrong with our perception. At 6:50 she says it has never been this bad but at 8:50 she doesn't think it is going to be a problem meanwhile the dam is getting closer to its minimum level. Thinking it won't be a problem in the future is exactly what got us in this situation in the first place.
@Herr2Cents
@Herr2Cents 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time stamps. The dam is a tool that seems to be doomed to stop working.
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 3 жыл бұрын
She's completely delusional. She will still be thinking it all will recover. It won't.
@xxsoulpatchxx3362
@xxsoulpatchxx3362 3 жыл бұрын
Denial and Hopium. Hell of a mix. LOL
@horus7732
@horus7732 3 жыл бұрын
I had the exact thought, the problem has been building up for years but it will magically be resolved and things will go back to what they were, magic!
@nicolea8205
@nicolea8205 3 жыл бұрын
@@yvonneplant9434 it’s how most Arizonans react when I tell them that I’m leaving this state before the water wars start.
@baddarkfaller4568
@baddarkfaller4568 3 жыл бұрын
she said, "i have faith on the people working on the problem." Who? The politicians? We're screwed...
@johngalt8279
@johngalt8279 3 жыл бұрын
People of faith, who are praying to Jesus for rain.
@greg1030
@greg1030 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngalt8279 LOL! Look to your own mind and actions to decelerate climate change. And stop reproducing like rabbits if you really expect to fight climate change!
@happygp698
@happygp698 3 жыл бұрын
She has faith in God.
@XM-qk5sh
@XM-qk5sh 3 жыл бұрын
These are the same people that haven't done anything meaningful in 20 years. That is some wishful thinking.
@Veeger
@Veeger 3 жыл бұрын
They've known this was coming and continued to carry on unsustainable expansion until collapse of water resources. Who are you able to trust?
@DeadChan-RIP
@DeadChan-RIP 2 жыл бұрын
I love how she is just not allowed to say what she really thinks. we will not get 4 years of snow. that's not how climate change works. has the earth heats up wet places get more rain and dry places get less. we won't ever see snowpack like we did only 20 years ago
@jakehildebrand1824
@jakehildebrand1824 2 жыл бұрын
Sure we will, just waot for the climate cycle to come full circle.
@ceirwan
@ceirwan 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jakehildebrand1824 We've disrupted the cycle. Right now we should be in a glaciation period, not a warming one.
@jakehildebrand1824
@jakehildebrand1824 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceirwan wrong. The earth is still warming up from the last ice age, meaning a warming process. Yes this process is accelerating, however if you look at history, that is not something that humanity has had any influence over. The last ice age marks the beginning of this acceleration, lasting significantly shorter than previous ice ages, and rate of acceleration has constantly and consistently increased at an exponential rate. Why? We don't know why, but we do know that we had absolutely nothing to do with it. Blaming ourselves for things that we are not responsible for is not going to solve anything. In order to solve climate related problems, we should instead be asking questions like; If humanity isn't causing this then what is?, what does the acceleration of the climate cycle actually mean? Will the process ever stop accelerating?will it ever decelerate? Or more theoretical questions like; Does the acceleration of the climate cycle mean that the cycle will end? And if it does end, does that result in a constant unchanging climate, or an unstable unpredictable and rapidly changing climate?. The most important question we should be asking thought is; How do we prepare ourselves to better adapt to the changing climate?
@jakehildebrand1824
@jakehildebrand1824 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceirwan technically you're not entirely wrong though, because if the cycle hadn't started to accelerate we would still be in a glaciation period, and that the fact that the process is accelerating does technically mean that SOMETHING had disrupted the process, so you are right in those regards.
@neal.karn-jones
@neal.karn-jones 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehildebrand1824 It is ridiculous to say that we have no effect on the climate. Yes, there was a little ice age, recently, and yes we could be seeing a normal fluctuation that is not totally caused by us. But to deny that we have any effect on the planet is just ignorant and dangerous. There is plenty that we can do to help - regardless of who or what is to blame.
@marktrinidad7650
@marktrinidad7650 3 жыл бұрын
The priorities of America is truly mindboogling. Military over healthcare, education. Golf courses over farmers. No wonder they are blaming and smearing other countries to hide their paranoia.
@Anthony-xv6tk
@Anthony-xv6tk 3 жыл бұрын
more like priorities of the rich elite ruling class. thanks capitalism!
@jjmo7383
@jjmo7383 3 жыл бұрын
America squandered $2 trillion for the Afghanistan war - a fiasco - enriching the military industrial complex while bring death and destruction to the Afghan people. Imagine if this money was spent on the construction of infrastructures that benefit the American people. Why? Corrupt and incompetent lawmakers.
@marktrinidad7650
@marktrinidad7650 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jjmo7383 Geez you're right the war on Afghanistan alone could have build an extensive continental hi speed railway all over the United States. And remember the cost is just on Afghanistan. Imagine if the cost could have included the war on Iraq, Syria, the Middle East, the money could have put the United States at the forefront of its competition with China.
@vardenfell971
@vardenfell971 3 жыл бұрын
golf courses over idiotic farmers.
@zachheisen5022
@zachheisen5022 3 жыл бұрын
@@marktrinidad7650 and what of that rail system? it would rust with no support because america already has an extensive air and ground transportation network.
@tima.478
@tima.478 3 жыл бұрын
When you consider the fact that this river has flowed for millions of years, untouched without any issues at all...we touch it for just a blink of an eye and it's virtually destroyed! This is truly sad.
@Automedon2
@Automedon2 3 жыл бұрын
That is true with everything. Humans didn't overpopulate for 200,000 years (because of natural diseases and famine) The more 'problems' we try to solve, the more we battle nature, the worse it becomes.
@blackjohnson5195
@blackjohnson5195 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, You heard from a Child, "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be done." Now get up and start dancing!!!
@jaygarcia6094
@jaygarcia6094 3 жыл бұрын
we?? i've never touched this river. More like YOU. Since you said we, Im guessing you had something to with it
@blackjohnson5195
@blackjohnson5195 3 жыл бұрын
@Heloise O'Byrne Understand. A run on the Banks is a Capitalist's nightmare. A nightmare at the dinner table too. The problem here is that the 2% get dividends every quarter. When stupid ass Reagan's trickle down ended up in multi million dollar Jets and Yachts, the expenses went to a new level. Hell, I pay 5 dollars for a decent loaf of Bread.
@Gustav4
@Gustav4 3 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that nobody can understand or talk about the real cause of this, it is not how we use the water that is the problem, the problem is that America's land is deteriorating so fast that it cant supply water to the rivers and also the health of the land determine the rainfall, so with degrading soils we are effectively reducing the amount of rainfall. Civilizations has failed through the past 10.000 years due to this fact and them not understanding the role of the soil. This is beyond politics or anything, it is too important for any ego or what ever to be in the way, lets sacrifices everything to spread this knowledge so we can start addressing this serious issue. We have to wake up or America is Fuc*ed. Make this the most popular comment if you are inspired to be the generation in history who changes this human error we have had since dawn of times.
@8arrows
@8arrows 3 жыл бұрын
“Faith in those working on the problem.” Who exactly is that? And how are they “working” on it?
@21xK
@21xK 3 жыл бұрын
She's got faith in Carolyn Goodman, selling the most compelling lie.
@shoersa
@shoersa 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that!
@OceanBlueKeys
@OceanBlueKeys 3 жыл бұрын
I literally said the same thing! I'm guessing there's a team somewhere out there driving tough negotiations with the climate as I type this.
@zombienectar
@zombienectar 3 жыл бұрын
rainmakers
@Skapo
@Skapo 3 жыл бұрын
@@OceanBlueKeys Well in a sense, yes. There is a lot of research going into stuff like carbon capture, sea water desalination, aerosol based atmospheric cooling, vertical farming, kab grown meats etc. Still nowhere near enough to match the scale of severity of the problem especially as we keep realizing how timelines for climate changes were actually too conservative, but there are some big resources going into finding solutions that can be scaled up.
@mcdirtywork
@mcdirtywork 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 43 years old from Philadelphia, PA and I have never, I mean ever, seen the Delaware River so low. Between Trenton New Jersey and Morrisville pennsylvania, at low tide you can literally see halfway across the river. I mean like the riverbed. I remember noticing about 4 months ago the jet stream which usually for the most part flows west to east, and mostly along the north of the US/ south of Canada. I don't know when it started but it was around 4 months ago that I noticed the jet stream still obviously flowing from west to east, but dipping and Diving like a roller coaster in ways I've never seen it, also dragging from Southern California into phoenix, New Mexico, Texas then shooting straight up. This is we barely ever drop of rain in the Northeast us while at the same time the folks in the Ozarks are being flooded, then again, then again. Controlling the weather to justify and fortify the global warming I've Been Told since 5th grade in 1992 would swallow Florida whole in 10 years, then in the year 2000 in college, then 10 years after that when 24-hour news/propaganda became a thing, and of course the following 10 years on your "smart" 📱...
@RichterBelmont2235
@RichterBelmont2235 3 жыл бұрын
First-rate country, third-rate farming technique. You can't keep doing this "strip farming" and wasting water resource forever. But then again, having green lawns and golf courses in the middle of desert is as equally as disconcerting.
@bustedknuckles6051
@bustedknuckles6051 3 жыл бұрын
What do you propose the farmers do differently?
@DJFRITTZ
@DJFRITTZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@bustedknuckles6051 transition to airponics and hydroponics where stacked farms can produce rediculously more food per sq ft of space and use a fraction of the water. This stuff isnt difficult to learn either. Having said that... we can do without those golf courses first
@thomasbingham2797
@thomasbingham2797 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@vlogcity1111
@vlogcity1111 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJFRITTZ you need a lot more capital and labour and different machines to manage hydroponics. These farmers don’t have the capital to make the switch
@Gustav4
@Gustav4 3 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that nobody can understand or talk about the real cause of this, it is not how we use the water that is the problem, the problem is that America's land is deteriorating so fast that it cant supply water to the rivers and also the health of the land determine the rainfall, so with degrading soils we are effectively reducing the amount of rainfall. Civilizations has failed through the past 10.000 years due to this fact and them not understanding the role of the soil. This is beyond politics or anything, it is too important for any ego or what ever to be in the way, lets sacrifices everything to spread this knowledge so we can start addressing this serious issue. We have to wake up or America is Fuc*ed. Make this the most popular comment if you are inspired to be the generation in history who changes this human error we have had since dawn of times.
@hellomynameisname4270
@hellomynameisname4270 3 жыл бұрын
golf courses should be considered evil under these circumstances
@johndough23
@johndough23 3 жыл бұрын
Yep the concept of the fairway needs to be renamed the dirtway.
@corkyvanderhaven3391
@corkyvanderhaven3391 3 жыл бұрын
In the valleys, yes
@tommakarov
@tommakarov 3 жыл бұрын
@@aman-qj5sx I doubt the rich will want to play on concrete fields
@skygge1006
@skygge1006 3 жыл бұрын
Stop blaming the golf courses sure they’re a problem but the main problem is the farming which uses 70% of the water and to add onto that farming plants like alfalfa uses huge and I mean huge amounts of the water farming in the desert is the large problem
@hellomynameisname4270
@hellomynameisname4270 3 жыл бұрын
@@skygge1006 you can't compare farming anything to jacking off our precious water supply onto arbitrary patches of mono culture that only serve to please the aesthetic perversions of some viking descended alpha male with a pension for leveling anything that stands before his gaze...
@GaiusCassius15
@GaiusCassius15 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel as though this video tries to make that farmer and her family seem like the good guys, but her and her farm are part of the problem. Your growing cotton in Colorado? Just as short sighted as the cotton farmers in Arizona and several other desert-like states. If we want our water supplies to become sustainable we cant have people wasting it on products that can be made sustainably in other locations
@charlesgarrett7766
@charlesgarrett7766 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the south is still the cotton capital
@johnb7046
@johnb7046 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, thank you. Water intensive crops in deserts are indeed part of the problem. With soil desertification, chemical fertilizers, water mismanagement and greed I honestly think we are heading to another dust bowl.
@ElevenAce
@ElevenAce 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you points but when you think about it we use cotton everyday. Like she's growing that for the economy. The other water uses are less useful. In another video the golf courses were using tons of water just so folks can hit a few balls??? And I'm sure there are other farmers growing food too.
@williamrose7184
@williamrose7184 3 жыл бұрын
During the dust bowl it wasn’t because of lack of water there was so much water there but they just didn’t know how to access it at the time
@masterdecats6418
@masterdecats6418 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamrose7184 they didn’t till the soil correctly. They literally planted, grew, and extracted without putting nutrients back into the soil.
@amimrie
@amimrie 2 жыл бұрын
water level is now below the minimum required to produce power.
@jamilwilliams5080
@jamilwilliams5080 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like farming in the desert is fucking reckless to begin with
@bidenadministrationischina5091
@bidenadministrationischina5091 3 жыл бұрын
It's how we survived over generations
@russelltackett4779
@russelltackett4779 3 жыл бұрын
Nasty
@eclipse369.
@eclipse369. 3 жыл бұрын
@@bidenadministrationischina5091 wrong You went where the water was.
@NiminaeOld
@NiminaeOld 3 жыл бұрын
Well it wasn't when there was water here.
@dennisp3314
@dennisp3314 3 жыл бұрын
AND - we are growing water crops (alfalfa, etc) in southern AND Northern AZ for the Saudis. To Export. Same reason we long ago started growing Cotton in Arizona for God's Sake.
@robertkerr9527
@robertkerr9527 2 жыл бұрын
My extended family moved to Las Vegas over 20 yrs. Ago and my sister to Boulder city. I've been to the hoover dam multiple times when I visited and each time I was shocked by what I saw. This has been happening for decades and nobody wanted to admit this day would come. No one should be surprised.
@zacharypeery4082
@zacharypeery4082 2 жыл бұрын
Boulder City is hell on earth I'm my humble opinion
@Bodezefah
@Bodezefah 2 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly.
@tyrone-tydavis5858
@tyrone-tydavis5858 2 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is you're part of the problem.
@robertkerr9527
@robertkerr9527 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyrone-tydavis5858 Ha, what troll. I live in Europe actually. And Las Vegas is just part of the problem. The water in the hoover dam is already low by the time it gets there because of poor management and its over use in Northern California, not Nevada. But already knew that.
@tyrone-tydavis5858
@tyrone-tydavis5858 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertkerr9527 So did you take your extended family with you or are they still there in denial as well?
@danielgomez1923
@danielgomez1923 3 жыл бұрын
Native Americans used to say "Don't exploit the land. Learn to live and coexist with the natural environment." Native Americans walked the talk.
@BFaluup
@BFaluup 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s too bad we don’t understand to a better degree the teachings of many of NA tribes they were truly connected to the land and were a part of it...southwest tribes fully adapted to and became part of the desert each tribe you can see their environment reflected through physical traits.
@jeannichols2459
@jeannichols2459 3 жыл бұрын
@@BFaluup If I'm not mistaken it was Siting Bull when he saw how the pioneers were tilling up the soil of the prairie made the comment they turn everything upside down. What a wise man he was.
@nygardenguru
@nygardenguru 2 жыл бұрын
People wouldn’t listen to the Indian with a tear in his eye
@magnus4346
@magnus4346 2 жыл бұрын
@@BFaluup The biggest challenge would be tolerating adversity and getting spoiled Americans to live VERY minimalist.
@daniel.478
@daniel.478 2 жыл бұрын
She said "she has faith in the people that are working on the problem" and that its a "concern"? Lady, we're screwed! Let's not brush it under the rug until it's too late because it's already to late! A dry and grim future awaits!
@reggieabdullahcarter8162
@reggieabdullahcarter8162 2 жыл бұрын
You’re correct
@SuperBlueeyes89
@SuperBlueeyes89 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yea 100% im in the thinking this world wont be here in 25 years might not even make it 10 years the way its looking. They seem to fix things but this is something that cant be fixed and not to mention the glaciers are melting at a fast rate. Were fucked to say tge least.
@johnlux6635
@johnlux6635 2 жыл бұрын
@laughing Atyou I read your comment. I'm laughing Atyou.
@hitts8928
@hitts8928 3 жыл бұрын
the earth is giving us so many RED FLAGS in a short amount of time, the future looks terrifying
@chazl9531
@chazl9531 3 жыл бұрын
Very terrifying and yet some idiots are still denying the obvious. Human activity is destroying our planet
@greatlakegirl3033
@greatlakegirl3033 3 жыл бұрын
Very terrifying
@SiiNTi
@SiiNTi 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think will happen?
@hitts8928
@hitts8928 3 жыл бұрын
@@SiiNTi of the temperature of the earth is increasing really fast past few years, so many countries this summer reached +50 degree Celsius (125 F)
@SmootherThanSilk
@SmootherThanSilk 3 жыл бұрын
@@chazl9531 Human activity especially motivated by greed.
@mckennabrock1865
@mckennabrock1865 3 жыл бұрын
I did my dissertation on this and this video is actually kinda problematic. For starters, it doesn't address the main reason we're in this state is because of the policy failure surrounding water in the SW United States. Water ownership is based on a chain of ownership based on ancient prior appropriation laws (ie first come, first served) from the pioneer days. The first in line (or the first who "laid claim" to the land) is able to use as much water as they need and whatever is leftover goes to the next person. The inclusion of the first lady in this video is misleading. She's likely further down the chain of ownership, thus not able to irrigate her crops. (Also, alfalfa and cotton are some of the most water-intensive crops you can grow. It's an incredibly risky decision on her part to grow these crops if she is that far down the chain.) There are people above her freely using as much water as they need; the water restrictions do not affect everyone equally. Another problem this video fails to address is that agriculture is responsible for the *vast majority* of water usage. Municipal use is minuscule in comparison. New developments and golf courses are not responsible for the Colorado River's dramatic decline in water flow. Water generally comes from two places in this region: the Colorado River and the aquifer. Farmers have ZERO restrictions on the amount of water they can pump from the aquifer free of charge. This has resulted in megafarms owned by places like China (no land to grow crops like alfalfa to feed their livestock) or Saudi Arabia (no more water to have agriculture) who build giant pumps to irrigate acres and acres of water-intensive crops to send back to their own countries. The last thing (and the most important) this video does not address is the amount of corruption that exists within agriculture and water policy. Farmers have zero incentive to reduce their water usage because they get heavily subsidized water and insurance payments for growing their water-intensive crops (it makes zero financial sense for them to grow anything else). Farmers vote for politicians who implement these policies. As a result, politicians vote down any legislation aimed at creating more sustainable water usage/limiting water use/setting restrictions on what types of crops can be grown in a drought-stricken area. It's an absolute mess and our politicians are entirely to blame. I really didn't like how this video makes it seem as if there is nothing that can be done.
@billpetersen298
@billpetersen298 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep sharing what you know, change is obviously needed.
@itsmeagain966
@itsmeagain966 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the the practical insight 👍 there are clear holes in our water policies that need to be addressed
@aliciaflores5052
@aliciaflores5052 3 жыл бұрын
As an ADWR employee, McKenna summed up everything perfectly
@chobai9996
@chobai9996 3 жыл бұрын
It's because they think it's just climate change, but never think of the nuances of how crises work. Also, anytime you mention the horrible things the Chinese Communist Party is doing you get labeled as a racist by these kinds of people
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 3 жыл бұрын
My City sells 5 parts Class A+ reclaimed wastewater for 4 parts Colorado River water. It is used to grow Cotton. She would have traded her allotment for more water(reclaimed). Now no allotment
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 3 жыл бұрын
growing cotton in the desert, no fucking wonder there's no water. that's how the aral sea dried up.
@scottedwards6578
@scottedwards6578 3 жыл бұрын
But there are people managing it we are so much smarter now 😠
@erwin887
@erwin887 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottedwards6578 that happend not too long ago mate
@scottedwards6578
@scottedwards6578 3 жыл бұрын
@@erwin887 and I met it's always the same thing Easter Island 2.0 people always think they are in control until it's to late then blame something else
@morninboy
@morninboy 3 жыл бұрын
that whole drainage system got redirected. STUPID PEOPLE
@darijus4094
@darijus4094 3 жыл бұрын
The soviet unions' government diverted most of the water to the farms and the aral sea didin't get any water
@thehazelnutspread
@thehazelnutspread 2 жыл бұрын
Alphabet’s Google is building more data centers across the U.S. to power online searches, web advertising and cloud services. These facilities use billions of gallons of water. In 2019 alone, Google requested, or was granted, more than 2.3 billion gallons of water for data centers in three different states, according to public records posted online and legal filings. Google is building many more centers each year. This is where your water is going.
@abetg2009
@abetg2009 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that golf courses in AZ were marked "essential" during covid lockdown.
@markbrennan8705
@markbrennan8705 3 жыл бұрын
Golf Course should not be essential farm land that needs water to grow food should be Highly Essential
@jays2551
@jays2551 3 жыл бұрын
golf courses shouldn't even exist, golf is a retarded game that wastes precious resources like water and arable land
@jerroldbates7015
@jerroldbates7015 3 жыл бұрын
@@jays2551 those wealthy retirees that always played golf back home, must have a lot of clout.
@bidenadministrationischina5091
@bidenadministrationischina5091 3 жыл бұрын
Fk golfers. They don't even use the water. It's just there for scenery , which they probably don't even notice in the first place
@andreblackaller3560
@andreblackaller3560 3 жыл бұрын
I think they might be dependen ding on who you are haha.
@katel3962
@katel3962 3 жыл бұрын
The problem isnt lack of water. The problem is farming in a DESERT, building homes and businesses in a DESERT, building lawns and golf courses in a DESERT. Respect Nature.
@xoxoxoxoxo7997
@xoxoxoxoxo7997 3 жыл бұрын
Especially Vegas
@Pixelsplasher
@Pixelsplasher 3 жыл бұрын
Those people living in the desert? They will simply migrate to greener parts of the US when the water runs out.
@enticingmay435
@enticingmay435 3 жыл бұрын
Phoenix is the fastest growing major city in the country and its literally in the middle of a desert. People from California and the East Coast are moving here in droves driving the housing prices to skyrocket to the point of it becoming unaffordable to the locals. The city is ever expanding into the desert with new suburbs with cookie cutter houses being built all the time. People take the resources that they have for granted and thinks that it’s infinite. It’s a build, build, build mentality that’s going to backfire massively once the water runs out. Let’s see how many people will remain once severe water restrictions are in place.
@Quellthathitta
@Quellthathitta 3 жыл бұрын
@@enticingmay435 facts I’m from Denver Colorado originally, but I’ve been in Phoenix for the last two years! I see it already transpiring.
@pilotactor777
@pilotactor777 3 жыл бұрын
Spoton Kate.
@RoscoRide
@RoscoRide 3 жыл бұрын
And they failed to mention Nestlé’s corporation using water from the dam In years past
@mrike5651
@mrike5651 3 жыл бұрын
They used up Florida's water in our fresh waters.
@Automedon2
@Automedon2 3 жыл бұрын
True, but they were producing water that people actually drink.
@erickeller162
@erickeller162 3 жыл бұрын
@@Automedon2 Water that used to cost cents per gallon they are now selling at 2 to 3 bucks per bottle?
@erickeller162
@erickeller162 3 жыл бұрын
@Will Smith You missed my point entirely. Nestle takes municipal water at huge discount rates and sells it back to you at an inflated price. Go look that up if you don't believe me, it's pretty common knowledge and I'm not here to argue about it with you.
@shariyahlevvi9142
@shariyahlevvi9142 3 жыл бұрын
@@erickeller162 Blue gold documentary spoke on how nestles was sucking lake superior water, bottling, selling it
@rickschuman2926
@rickschuman2926 2 жыл бұрын
Does not see the difference between evaporation and pouring out?
@campll121
@campll121 3 жыл бұрын
Farming in a desert doesn't seem like a great idea to begin with..
@farmerjohn6526
@farmerjohn6526 3 жыл бұрын
Where I live in the east...we have empty farmlands and tons of water
@greg1030
@greg1030 3 жыл бұрын
@@farmerjohn6526 Where I live in the east on overpopulated, over developed and obscenely over priced Long Island we have tons of water and practically NO farm land, for obvious reasons.
@clairedgaia3626
@clairedgaia3626 3 жыл бұрын
There is actually thpusands ofvyears of dryland farming in tandem With nature, by Hopi, Dine, Zuni peopleas and more. They did ceremonies to call on rain and protected, blessed their water. It is the big ag, greedy, manipulative, power over nature corporations destroying soils, making dirt lifeless, with no regard to water that contributes much damage.
@gringrin3979
@gringrin3979 3 жыл бұрын
Cactus Farmers.
@TheDoorspook11c
@TheDoorspook11c 3 жыл бұрын
Right
@pigjubby1
@pigjubby1 3 жыл бұрын
My parents moved to the desert in the 1980's. Every house had a lawn. A lawn in the desert was silly. When you build more homes in the desert you add more washing machines, more showers, more car washes.
@johngalt8279
@johngalt8279 3 жыл бұрын
....swimming pools, golf courses, water fountains...
@happygp698
@happygp698 3 жыл бұрын
That is the American dream.
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the government should ban people from living where they want to.
@carljohnson7168
@carljohnson7168 3 жыл бұрын
@@justicedemocrat9357 It's not that the government should ban people from living where they want to, but they should start restricting heavy water-depriving resources such as lawns and golf courses in areas where they are dry and receiving extreme drought.
@pulda015
@pulda015 3 жыл бұрын
@@justicedemocrat9357 don't ban people from living where they want, but they don't get to complain about a lack of water or flash floods in the wash that they built their subdivisions in.
@JWALL_
@JWALL_ 3 жыл бұрын
I live in AZ and I’ve always tried telling people the Colorado is drying up, and they are like “oh” and then never think about it again, we got water parks here and Vegas is even worse, and nobody wants to change
@nicolea8205
@nicolea8205 3 жыл бұрын
The people in AZ can’t admit that their city has problems. They just put their heads in the sand, glad to be leaving AZ hopefully soon, it’s way too crowded.
@akuma8841
@akuma8841 3 жыл бұрын
AZ is gonna turn into fallout new vegas
@beachdweller3378
@beachdweller3378 2 жыл бұрын
Terrible water management. Shameful to say the least. Enjoy the decline and higher prices folks. No rational solutions seem to be forthcoming but make sure you buy your electric car, that will fix everything.
@energiewender143
@energiewender143 3 жыл бұрын
2:50 Granddad getting ready to plant cotton - in Arizona. Arizona literally means arid or dry zone, and cotton has a bad reputation for needing huge amounts of water to grow. How can you call yourself a farmer and yet be so clueless about how nature works? How can those people feign surprise that there is no more water after consuming unsustainable amounts of water for generations?
@why-xr6lg
@why-xr6lg 3 жыл бұрын
Less money in farming drought tolerant foods to increase the local food supply and use the water for good.
@mrbear1302
@mrbear1302 3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't be planting so much cotton if people weren't buying lots of stuff made out of it.
@MC-tm2uy
@MC-tm2uy 3 жыл бұрын
They are both victims and perpetrators
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
You realise US money literally grows on cotton trees?
@offchance789
@offchance789 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the sooner these boomers start meeting real water adversity, maybe they'll switch to a drought resistant crop. Oh who am I kidding.
@Bloodylaser
@Bloodylaser 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is from Arizona. Let me tell you water needs to be an important issue in EVERY election here.
@PatheticTV
@PatheticTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@mehoff88 lmao Americans really be harping on about freedom then tell each other they can’t live where they do because they need water 😂
@dstyd
@dstyd 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who was born and raised in Arizona I understand. It's to hot for me so I left.
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
Water isn't a right..
@Niko-vh8jh
@Niko-vh8jh 3 жыл бұрын
@@PatheticTV 0 logic was detected in that sentence.
@danielmocsny5066
@danielmocsny5066 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware that voting creates water.
@lalah9481
@lalah9481 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you have faith in ‘the people working on this problem’ when they’re the ones who got us here?
@davidday9967
@davidday9967 3 жыл бұрын
She's referring to the people at the dam itself. Not the jumbo turds that sell the water off to farms in az and ca. Did you know it's illegal to collect rain in Colorado? Probably most of the south west but I know co for sure
@isaacb5968
@isaacb5968 3 жыл бұрын
Because she’s being paid to not look half as scared as she should be. “It’s…concerning.” GTFOH
@rub3nski
@rub3nski 2 жыл бұрын
solution=remove dams, youre not saving water this way it evaporates much quicker then running water
@JWhisp
@JWhisp 3 жыл бұрын
Why are we still farming in hot, arid deserts? Such a waste of water
@SocialContractActual
@SocialContractActual 3 жыл бұрын
Well now we are making water cooled server sites in the desert. We will never learn.
@MrBassmann15
@MrBassmann15 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no farming expert, but I think it has to do with logistics. It's much cheaper and faster to buy food right there in your state than to import it from either a foreign country or somewhere else further away in the country itself.
@pokeman5000
@pokeman5000 3 жыл бұрын
The same reason people put Nuclear power plants on fault lines/tsunami prone locations. People are D.U.M.B. Imagine living in a desert and being surprised theres no water.
@Monkeymahenmiester
@Monkeymahenmiester 3 жыл бұрын
Cheaper land
@carramrod8232
@carramrod8232 3 жыл бұрын
Because the lands are fertile. Old sea beds. Farming isn’t the problem. It’s over populated
@salkoharper2908
@salkoharper2908 3 жыл бұрын
Cotton is one of the thirstiest crops you can grow, it require thousands of litres of water for a small cultivated area. Its only really suitable to grow in hot climates with high rainfall, like the South Eastern parts of the US. Cotton is grown in Egypt, India and Bangladesh heavily too but only along rivers like the Nile delta and Ganges delta where there is huge amounts of water for irrigation. Its never been a native crop in a desert region anywhere in the world.
@CLAYMOR916
@CLAYMOR916 3 жыл бұрын
Damn thanks for sharing. I appreciate that fact man
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 3 жыл бұрын
That's why it grows so well in places like Mississippi that can get up to 100 inches of rain a year.
@danieljones317
@danieljones317 3 жыл бұрын
@@ralphlaguna5433 thank the government for that debacle. As a matter of fact, you can pretty much blame all our problems on our Control Freak government. If there is one unwavering constant with them, is that they ALWAYS make the wrong decision.
@danieloshea3326
@danieloshea3326 3 жыл бұрын
Almonds require a lot of water too
@danieljones317
@danieljones317 3 жыл бұрын
@@danieloshea3326 food overall requires a lot of water. Thank California for dumping huge quantities of water into the ocean to save some little endangered fish that's just going to die because of their drought.
@stormcamper
@stormcamper 3 жыл бұрын
Who would’ve guessed developing deserts could cause a water shortage?
@bandeano3870
@bandeano3870 3 жыл бұрын
that is certainly not the only reason, people are simply no longer economical with water. everyone wastes water and thinks it's their right because they pay for it. Go back in time 50 years and this was not the case.
@olivekimchi2307
@olivekimchi2307 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandeano3870 go back in time and the population of the earth will not even be close to 7.6 Billion.
@bandeano3870
@bandeano3870 3 жыл бұрын
@@olivekimchi2307 we are talking about america here, in 1970 the population of america was 205.05 million. The point I'm making is if you go back 50 years in time people were less wasteful with water. Nobody showered twice a day. Your clothes were washed when they were dirty, not because you wore them for half a day. Today almost everyone has a swimming pool in the summer. And these are just a few examples, there are many more.
@MrThenry1988
@MrThenry1988 3 жыл бұрын
Cities in the desert are not good. Big ones.
@marquisgrissom9129
@marquisgrissom9129 3 жыл бұрын
@@bandeano3870 maaaan. Take that dumb centralized oblivious disgusting comment about bathing and clothes washing and keep it within your circle. That's bottom of the toaden pole sht. If it doesn't rain where you from the you don't farm or need a lawn, Simple.
@TomKirkman1
@TomKirkman1 Жыл бұрын
It's not a drought - it's a desert. The lakes were only made to sustain 15 million people. Now 40 million draw from it.
@jeremykiahsobyk102
@jeremykiahsobyk102 3 жыл бұрын
If you're in the Southwest and you have a lawn, you're goddamn irresponsible.
@diffusesingularity2760
@diffusesingularity2760 3 жыл бұрын
yeah it is a waste of water and plain grass lawns inherently suck either way, but the blame does Not fall on regular consumers - that's the basis of ecofascism which corporations continually use to blame working and middle class people on their lack of responsible recycling and taking 4 minute showers as the cause of these environmental issues, when it is always wealthy corporations driving the irresponsible use of water and other resources.
@raypitts4880
@raypitts4880 3 жыл бұрын
which river do the bottled water come from deepest wells for nothing sold at a profit.
@emmaevans7011
@emmaevans7011 3 жыл бұрын
When we all start starving, it won't be just the farmers crying. I was in school studying hydrology in late 80's and early 90's. Topic of every conference was water shortage.
@helenclark7876
@helenclark7876 3 жыл бұрын
Yes we were as well
@morninboy
@morninboy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it is something I recall from the 80's. That was the surface water problem they presented. Then there is the aquifer problem.
@dominostabz8234
@dominostabz8234 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know taking all the water from a river to make a desert look like Florida would dry it up 🧐
@ToriBailey
@ToriBailey 3 жыл бұрын
It's not like Florida. It's a concrete jungle. It's all the humans consuming it. It's not going into the ground in AZ
@notapplicable328
@notapplicable328 3 жыл бұрын
That greenery was very artificial if you’ve been to AZ a lot of homes just have gravel front yards because grass isn’t fit for that climate. Stop trying to farm in the desert. You would think the dust bowl would’ve told us where in the US had soil suitable for farming.
@karstenhanson5095
@karstenhanson5095 3 жыл бұрын
@@notapplicable328 actually not true at all, I'm an Arizona native and there is millions of acres of farmland that is extremely fertile and suitable for farming. Its not like farmers are just trying to turn sand into crop fields here.
@dmannevada5981
@dmannevada5981 3 жыл бұрын
It' didn't. People living in that desert barely use a any water in the scheme of things...and I know you don't know where the water is being used. Hint: the water is being used to feed you...hello!
@dmannevada5981
@dmannevada5981 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToriBailey Yes, all the humans are using it...ACROSS N. AMERICA & THE WORLD. When the BOR's own data shows that over 80% of the water is being used to produce agriculture, agriculture that is feeding YOU, the rest of N. America & the world, obviously that "concrete jungle" isn't the reason for the water crisis.
@ayebing
@ayebing Жыл бұрын
Lake Powell is back at its highest level one year later. Almost like weather is cyclical
@Ba4x
@Ba4x 3 жыл бұрын
if you travel this country you can see the Western states really struggling due to severe drought. Towns like Mendocino and Point Arena used to have a lot of tourists but now they are struggling to keep their farms afloat.
@RekySai
@RekySai 3 жыл бұрын
This is why we have water treatment plants for water. You just keep recycling the water and injecting back into the system. This is common practice in all towns around me even tho ground water is abundant. Welcome to canada
@factanonverba7547
@factanonverba7547 3 жыл бұрын
"afloat"
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 3 жыл бұрын
@@RekySai Dont worry, when resources here diminish further US will get there. Until then, please take care of the environment 😂
@Partnerthedog
@Partnerthedog 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thiers one town in arizona that has 5 golf courses. 1 single town. In the desert. 5 Seperate Courses.
@siphious2911
@siphious2911 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Roseville/Sacramento back in 2016 and now is still in a drought because Folsom Lake and the state just keeps sending the water down south and selling it we keep giving it away now the residents are unable to use their boats, skis, etc,(horrible ik right the rich can’t use their toys) but fun fact there’s actually an old town at the bottom Folsom lake no clue about the backstory though
@_D1886
@_D1886 3 жыл бұрын
“Water, water, water....There is no shortage of water in the desert but exactly the right amount; a perfect ratio of water to rock, water to sand... There is no lack of water here unless you try to establish a city where none should be.” Ed Abbey
@SegoMan
@SegoMan 3 жыл бұрын
JWP congress of this and the west would not support large cities.. What did they do? Lol
@jaysoncolbert6187
@jaysoncolbert6187 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American and if I want to drink more water than I will, it's called manifest destiny
@jaysoncolbert6187
@jaysoncolbert6187 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecrappycoder ^ Assume their gender immediately
@emceeboogieboots1608
@emceeboogieboots1608 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysoncolbert6187 Cool, so no problems if other Americans consume your portion then? Being their manifest destiny and all...
@stevenh766
@stevenh766 2 жыл бұрын
A water shortage piece where you interview a farmer growing alfalfa *in the middle of a f'ing desert* and no mention of how water intensive the crop is? Great reporting, Vice.
@cowsmuggler1646
@cowsmuggler1646 2 жыл бұрын
That does not. It is you Thems avocados.
@gingerlyglasses444
@gingerlyglasses444 2 жыл бұрын
Lol yah tried to make herself look like a victim
@cowsmuggler1646
@cowsmuggler1646 2 жыл бұрын
@@gingerlyglasses444 It is your Them avocados. Got to go vegan. It is good for the environment.
@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑ
@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑ 2 жыл бұрын
They also forgot to tell you that the crops go to China, Korea, Japan for their dairy industry and to Saudi Arabia for camel races.
@mountainman5025
@mountainman5025 2 жыл бұрын
There were no cows or pigs in the story. I didn't see birds or chickens either. Lack of water is one way to get rid of seagulls though.
@williamdukeofnormandy1403
@williamdukeofnormandy1403 2 жыл бұрын
Stop the water steel. Save the Colorado river.
@Mralex97u
@Mralex97u 3 жыл бұрын
Growing alfalfa in Arizona should be the alarming problem
@whiteheart6827
@whiteheart6827 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@geed2643
@geed2643 3 жыл бұрын
Growing anything but cactus there shoul be. I was in Peoria last week and it was 118°. What can you grow efficiently in that kind of weather?
@razzy1
@razzy1 3 жыл бұрын
Ban meat in desert areas, they use a stupid amount of water, one mcdonalds burger is equal to 1000 gallons of water, but no one talks about that
@nosomnesmentitisunt2043
@nosomnesmentitisunt2043 3 жыл бұрын
@@razzy1 where arethe facts? I want to see any information you have! I believe we should live differently....
@jeremypriest4062
@jeremypriest4062 3 жыл бұрын
@@razzy1 your point is valid, but your math and reasoning are far from reality.
@gordb.2381
@gordb.2381 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a article in a science magazine in the early 80's which outlined the water woes. In it they described the Colorado river and how the people along it have historical water rights which exceeded the actual amount of water flowing down it. It showed the reservoirs in California drying up. 40 years later its news.
@Natescoop8800
@Natescoop8800 2 жыл бұрын
Right i remember reading as well as a kid in school in the early 90s...
@j.thomas7128
@j.thomas7128 2 жыл бұрын
Right.... that was most likely when California was attempting to renegotiate their water rights when expanding their DESERT FARMING projects. The state sponsored propaganda ala PRAVDA was everywhere!
@patfranks785
@patfranks785 2 жыл бұрын
The Colorado river doesn't reach the ocean. 🤦‍♂️
@dls951
@dls951 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Powell and Mead were full in 2000
@juliuscee4633
@juliuscee4633 2 жыл бұрын
@@Natescoop8800 i remember reading as a kidd in the early 00s..
@Madderthanjoker
@Madderthanjoker 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird seeing America struggle with infrastructure for something as simple as water supply. The most wealthy nation in the world can't even guarantee water supply in the future.
@majnubhai1943
@majnubhai1943 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, wealth definitely equates to intelligence
@aardeng
@aardeng 3 жыл бұрын
Would probably be a good idea for the United States to stop shipping its water to countries like China
@flarednight1455
@flarednight1455 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny that one of worlds largest population of climate change deniers are feeling effects of droughts first, Europe took all the water and flooded instead aaha. Guess the dust bowl is coming back for round 2, that or the native American curses are finally taking affect.
@Streghamay
@Streghamay 3 жыл бұрын
@@flarednight1455 There will DEF be a modern dustbowl. I say that will come about the same time as the dwindling power supply. For a country sure hell bent on giving renewables a bad name they sure are going to wish they had it when the dam stops producing enough power for everyone.
@yeehaw3792
@yeehaw3792 3 жыл бұрын
@@flarednight1455 It's funny because the US can't do anything about climate change. Everyone in the US could literally kill themselves and it wouldn't help the climate at all. All the industry is in China and India. As long as there are developing countries or industry of any kind there will be climate change.
@noiseshapes
@noiseshapes 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the fastest growing cities in the US in the last decade: Las Vegas and Phoenix, because the market is disconnect from nature.
@dennistyler8746
@dennistyler8746 2 жыл бұрын
And the ridiculous politicians allowed it to happen (greed).
@lamarravery4094
@lamarravery4094 2 жыл бұрын
Those two cities will be ghost towns eventually. You gotta have water.
@ItsjustK96
@ItsjustK96 2 жыл бұрын
@@lamarravery4094 absolutely agree . No water =no life
@johnlux6635
@johnlux6635 2 жыл бұрын
Most that water goes to S Calif. Las Vegas and Phoenix don't get a huge share.
@wanlittle
@wanlittle 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Vice missed a few points here. Majority of water in most of those states already go to agriculture. Maybe should have touched on growing water hungry crops in a desert. Alfalfa in particular uses more water than almonds.
@obake_neko
@obake_neko 3 жыл бұрын
That's not correct. If you compare the amount of water required to produce a metric ton of edible product, almonds are among the most water intensive crops. The entire above ground alfalfa plant is used for livestock feed and it's fast growing, yielding multiple cuttings per year. It takes ~3 years to hit the first almond harvest and you have to continue to water the tree throughout the year.
@agoogleuser7784
@agoogleuser7784 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being smart enough to call out Vice on their one sided argument. They are leaving viewers to assume that the Agricultural industry is innocent in all of this…..
@agoogleuser7784
@agoogleuser7784 3 жыл бұрын
@@obake_neko well he was just addressing what was shown in the video…. Your argument actually helps his. Seeing as the Central Valley of california gets its water from the same source and is heavily planted with almonds and other water hungry tree nuts lol
@bkabourou8554
@bkabourou8554 3 жыл бұрын
@@obake_neko alfalfa in the desert is idiocy just like pecans almonds avocado and oranges in southern California
@palehorserider1407
@palehorserider1407 3 жыл бұрын
Vice is part of the machine ! They are pushing climate change full force now ! CNN director got caught running his mouth and said climate change is the next hoax they are goin to push !
@TheBic4
@TheBic4 3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to start a banana farm in Alaska and act shocked when it fails and beg for a government bailout.
@deathmachineusa2689
@deathmachineusa2689 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start a moron school and be in shocked when it fails to Curtail foolish comments.
@jaelynn7575
@jaelynn7575 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathmachineusa2689 Why did you capitalize "curtail?"
@CamBowen25
@CamBowen25 3 жыл бұрын
Alfalfa is one of the most water intensive crops there is. I understand it’s used to feed cattle which goes to feed people, but alfalfa farmers are the ones using the most water in places like Utah. Not people watering their lawns, taking long showers, etc. Sure, people should be conservative in their personal use, but that’s not what is going to make a noticeable difference. We need to put an emphasis on growing sustainable crops if we want to change things for the better. Golf courses in deserts and growing cities in places with few natural resources is a major issue as well.
@Trolls-Be-like
@Trolls-Be-like 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend's dad is a doctorate in aquaponics. He's done some pretty interesting stuff. Like growing tilapia in a pool above ground. On top of the pool is a large tray of plants including (mustard greens, Jake, spinach... Tht get their water from the tilapia pool below. He literally has protein, plants and water cycling through to Dustin his family. He knows one day shut will hit the fan.
@MoAli-wm4of
@MoAli-wm4of 3 жыл бұрын
They need to plant hemp outdoor and fem cannabis under greenhouses
@peetydontpass8309
@peetydontpass8309 3 жыл бұрын
If ya wanna grow alfalfa move to Iowa.
@NAT-turners-Revenge
@NAT-turners-Revenge 3 жыл бұрын
We can shower together to save the planet 😐 no homo
@jfm14
@jfm14 3 жыл бұрын
Golf course are the first things that need to go. I agree that modern farmers need to adapt to the arid conditions in which they grow and transition to less water-intensive crops, but shutting down things like golf courses and waterparks and the vast lawns of the rich need to be our focus.
@gloriaterry333
@gloriaterry333 Жыл бұрын
What a difference a year makes, thank God we got a lot of rain this year. 2023.
@cubone44
@cubone44 Жыл бұрын
Was at the dam just last month. Looked pretty empty to me. 😂
@KNakanishi
@KNakanishi 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie: I have 0 empathy for farmers who setup shop in the desert. Y'all wanted to make it rich quick and chose to live in an unsustainable environment. You use air conditioning for 80% of the year. What did you think was going to happen 🤷🏻‍♂️
@akiko3688
@akiko3688 3 жыл бұрын
Get rich quick? Lol
@vardenfell971
@vardenfell971 3 жыл бұрын
@@akiko3688 his logic might have been lots of land up for grabs historically even though the land was crap it was prolly cheaper to sell worse crops in huge numbers and still make a buttload of cash
@Unveranosinmi
@Unveranosinmi 3 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho or farmers got bought out by those corps unfortunately
@golgo2888
@golgo2888 3 жыл бұрын
Natives are extremely rude I'd was respectful and they just straight out had a nasty attitude.
@morninboy
@morninboy 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch She has been there for generations. Probably came out of the dust bowl. Easy to have 0 respect for that opinion. Share it with your intellectual friends over a glass of wine some day.
@douglasgault5458
@douglasgault5458 3 жыл бұрын
I've been involved with Colorado River Water issues since 1967. The one biggest problem that's easy to resolve is to re- survey the actual flow rate of the river. As the original the water survey was taken in 1927 during an exceptionally wet year. That calculated the river flow at 9.5 million acre feet. Which was 100% higher than the actual flow rate of 4.5 million acre feet. With the California Imperial Valley claimed 4 million acre feet of water annually. So a water shortage such as this was inevitable. The river needs to be resurveyed and adjusted for actual flow rates. Where VICE INC did a huge disservice to its viewers By Not Mentioning this Fact.
@sujimtangerines
@sujimtangerines 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't only an exceptionally wet span of years they used to base their calculations on, but the fact that they blatantly ignored the scientist that tried to tell them their assumptions were wrong. LaRue was trying to warn them in 1922...and his numbers were closer to the correct, current average
@sujimtangerines
@sujimtangerines 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamest1375 Went back to the source bc I was like, 'I know it's been a few years since I read the article, but wasn't the compact signed before 1925?' I did have the year wrong; as early as 1916 LaRue figured out there wasn't enough water to irrigate the "the lands lying within the basin." What chapped my ass the first time I read it was that a bunch of other scientists agreed... And it wasn't a misunderstanding of the reports & whatnot. They were ignored entirely. At the time I thought that brand of willful denialism was a current phenomenon, but no. Inconvenient truths that get in the way have been dismissed for a long time. (Not including tobacco bc the companies knew the cancer causing potential, but lied.) We can only hope that kind of stupidity isn't repeated in 2026. *1925 was the Congressional testimony where he stated there wasn't enough water to meet the amounts in the agreement. Edited to add link I hope works: grist.org/climate/politicians-knew-the-inconvenient-truth-about-the-colorado-river-100-years-ago-and-ignored-it/
@azmartin1977
@azmartin1977 2 жыл бұрын
@@sujimtangerines So there was going to be problem even with out taking global warming into consideration, so really underestimating the annual flows originally and overpopulation is really the main problem.
@trohan6415
@trohan6415 2 жыл бұрын
The answer was written in the book "The Monkey Wrench Gang".
@leok8183
@leok8183 2 жыл бұрын
@@azmartin1977 no! Its definitely climate change! Ban SUVs! -Some Vice editors probably
@whitewaterphilosopher126
@whitewaterphilosopher126 3 жыл бұрын
“I have a lot of faith in the people working the problem” famous last words
@emilym2521
@emilym2521 3 жыл бұрын
And incredibly foolish.
@Hugh_Manitee
@Hugh_Manitee 2 жыл бұрын
So a twenty year problem just now gets attention? Could this just be engineered "evidence" of "global warming"?
@scarymsmary
@scarymsmary 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't really matter whether it is or isn't. The problem is there regardless, and nothing is being done to correct it from what I can see. :(
@aaronrodriguez7248
@aaronrodriguez7248 3 жыл бұрын
Who could have foreseen building giant cities in barren lands would inevitably cause some problems
@greg1030
@greg1030 3 жыл бұрын
Really?? Name me any city and its outlying districts NOT located in an arid or even semi arid region (e.g. NYC, Paris, London, Chicago, L.A., et al) that could have thrived if WATER were as scarce as it's always been in most western states. Indeed, water scarcity in the American west has long been common knowledge. Why else would that region get the most and the most frequent and biggest wildfires? But even with full awareness of how climate change is causing even more water scarcity throughout the west, with local politicians and municipal planning commissioners in their pocket, realtors, developers and Big Aggie can build and exploit water resources to their hearts content. Moreover, all three can justify more of what they do thanks to the bipartisan over immigration conspiracy which has imported > 45 million legal (plus millions of illegals) people here over the last 20 odd years, to expand their voter base and at the behest of their corporate contributors to keep consumption and the labor pool high and thus stagnating wages to well below inflation rates. Domestic Americans weren’t reproducing enough to make capitalists richer fast enough, so import enough millions to do so. Of course, more people will need more homes, food, supermarkets, hospitals, schools, and on and on. And enriched capitalists and those investing in their businesses also buy 2nd and 3rd homes in AZ, NM, MT, CO, ID, et al, driving home prices, mortgage and utility rates and/or property taxes sky high. So yeah, LOTS of people could have thus foreseen the expansion of cities in the already water challenged western states. It’s just that those who did and also foresaw the environmental chaos and soaring cost of living it would create have been powerless against those who made it all happen.
@petec5935
@petec5935 3 жыл бұрын
Who would of foreseen importing millions and millions of illegals would harm our resources and welfare school's hospital's etc.
@kirstinstrand6292
@kirstinstrand6292 3 жыл бұрын
@@petec5935 you can't be serious. Why omit Corporate America? Growers of Almonds, grapes, avocados, etc. ALL for Corporate PROFITS that requires abuse of water rights; leaving family farms, and people with limited water use. Please DIG DEEPER!
@edc1569
@edc1569 3 жыл бұрын
seemed to work fine for the first 60 years.
@greg1030
@greg1030 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirstinstrand6292 Employers and employees invest their capital and sell their labor to make money. And the more consumers there are the more products and services corporations and workers will produce to meet that demand, polluting, deforesting, heat emitting and raising ocean levels in the process. Blaming corporations and land developers for generating toxic and heat emitting byproducts, paving over vanishing green space and killing off wildlife habitats is pointless if humans-of any age, economic class, education level, ethnicity or location-keep dumping more and more new consumers on the planet at even much less than the current rate. And all the “green smart” consuming tips and renewable energy sources aren’t going to mitigate those consequences a whole lot, much less justifying more immigration and a global birth rate of >> 100 million/year since the early 60s, along with substantially and otherwise welcomed decreased average death rates.
@GeneralxGrievousx
@GeneralxGrievousx 3 жыл бұрын
We are literally seeing environmental disasters that you see in movies happen in real time in the last 5 years alone. The major wildfires in California alone are prime examples, they just keep getting bigger & record breaking year after year.
@jasper5000
@jasper5000 3 жыл бұрын
Siberia is also on fire right now, not to mention the Australian wildfires too. Humans are destroying the planet
@cookiekiller500
@cookiekiller500 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are so wrong it's scary. They were told in 1850 before cars and the industrial revolution NOT to build big cities out west because there wasnt enough water. They tried to cheat the natural order with the Hoover Dam. That calculation was based off of the.20 wettest years on the Colorado river in history. They got it wrong and now they are blaming "climate change".
@beenagoon6156
@beenagoon6156 3 жыл бұрын
@@cookiekiller500 it’s all over the world. Floods are getting worse and worse. Natural disasters are getting more extreme it won’t get any better
@GeneralxGrievousx
@GeneralxGrievousx 3 жыл бұрын
@@cookiekiller500 .... Yet the point still stands as yet another "manmade environmental disaster", so yes the point still stands. Just another consequence of human humbris.
@andreblackaller3560
@andreblackaller3560 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this man, it’s like a 90’s film
@marcuswardle3180
@marcuswardle3180 3 жыл бұрын
“We have no water!” What did you grow? “Cotton” That’s one of the most water intensive crops and she relies on dam water! Just look what happened to the Aral Sea.
@georgegerman9009
@georgegerman9009 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confuse now.. I thought sea levels are raising around the world. How can that be?
@n0m1c
@n0m1c 3 жыл бұрын
The alfalfa she was trying to grow is also water-intensive, and is mainly used as meat and dairy animal feed.
@alexbosworth1582
@alexbosworth1582 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgegerman9009 The Colorado River is not a sea.
@rodricksteal1729
@rodricksteal1729 3 жыл бұрын
@@n0m1c so go vegan
@markusbroyles1884
@markusbroyles1884 3 жыл бұрын
The Caspian is still there ~ YOU mean the ARAL sea... lol ... must be a dem...lol...
@GaryInSoCal
@GaryInSoCal 2 жыл бұрын
Lake Mead CAN EASILY be saved. Run a pipeline from the Snake River (due north of the Colorado River) to it, instead of letting those trillions of gallons of water run to the sea in the Missouri river. If the government can run a oil pipeline from Canada, it can EASILY run a water pipeline from one river to another.
@twagoner21
@twagoner21 2 жыл бұрын
you used so many caps IT REALLY MUST BE EASY! tell us more about this pipeline that could emulate the volume of the co river at normal levels. then again, wouldn't it be simpler to not develop/farm/golf/grow lawns in the desert? spend a couple hours in AZ and feel how all stores/restaurants etc run the AC and you'll see how little people there are thinking about resources. heads. in. sand.
@user-et4wt5fz8t
@user-et4wt5fz8t 3 жыл бұрын
The Colorado River is THE MOST dammed river in the United Sates, let’s talk about that. “The mighty Colorado” nickname extends from the fact that it was once one of the strongest flowing rivers in North America and now it’s stagnant, barely a flowing river at this point. In a reservoir like Powell, the amount of water that we loose to evaporation is laughable at best.
@Noxfumes66
@Noxfumes66 3 жыл бұрын
@@whatever12643 man contributes , sure…. But nothing new under the sun. Ever heard of the dust bowls? Farmlands , in the 1930s , turned into desserts….. and the population (pollution) was much lower , back then. Climate has never been stable. The Sahara was once green….. man wasn’t involved in that little trick….
@fifthcolumn388
@fifthcolumn388 3 жыл бұрын
@@Noxfumes66 the dust bowl was a bit our fault since if we hadn’t destroyed the plains grass with farms the soil would have been strong enough to withstand the drought as it had before.
@scowler7200
@scowler7200 3 жыл бұрын
So we need to bust the dams?
@Noxfumes66
@Noxfumes66 3 жыл бұрын
@@fifthcolumn388 …like deforestation is , in parts, responsible for much of the flooding we see today. We forget, however, that even China has seen worst flooding than what has occurred recently. Many seem to think that man is the only cause of what is occurring , and that all disasters are worst than what has occurred in the past. We have been sold that the end is near for , at least , since the beginning of the 20th century. We do need to , literally, clean our act. How about finding a way to REALLY recycle what we use. Electronics that are more easily upgradable, as opposed to disposable. Cleaning the oceans , would be nice 🙄. As for us affecting the climate…. Don’t think there’s much we can do about that. I’m wondering what the cost of trying to prevent the rise in ocean levels would be vs dealing with the actual rise. As you might know. People have built cities that have been found , under water, off coastal lines. So, nothing is new in water levels changing. Humans have had to adapt before. Underwater archaeology seems to be quite the “new” and interesting discipline.
@rainingwords5775
@rainingwords5775 3 жыл бұрын
@@scowler7200 YES.
@kari8187
@kari8187 3 жыл бұрын
I was at Lake Powell last week, it is tinier than when they filmed this piece.
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 3 жыл бұрын
It will come back - with a vengeance.
@applejuice5635
@applejuice5635 3 жыл бұрын
@@Milosz_Ostrow Why/how?
@elbarto4815
@elbarto4815 3 жыл бұрын
@@Milosz_Ostrow wondering why as well.
@mikespark72
@mikespark72 3 жыл бұрын
@@applejuice5635 I believe he means when there is another biblical flood???
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@applejuice5635, @El Barto - Much of the rainfall in the western part of North and South America is controlled by the El Niño/La Niña effect, plus the random undulations of the Jet Stream. In my lifetime I've observed that we get particularly wet winters about every 11 years, which roughly corresponds to the Sun's sunspot cycles. Drought conditions are upsetting while they last, but the rain always returns eventually.
@WLIYD22
@WLIYD22 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Vegas and Arizona and I remember them saying this situation was already bad before I left in 1996. Yet, the building growth was the fastest in the nation. NOT a single person did anything about setting building moratoriums and here we are.
@B7NZ
@B7NZ 2 жыл бұрын
Need to shut off the water to LA in the aqueduct, CA can get was from the ocean. Also get rid of golf courses in Las Vegas they can play on astro turf this is the desert, if they don't like it go on vacation or somewhere else.
@kenmelrac
@kenmelrac 3 жыл бұрын
Growing hay in the middle of the desert simply because of the long growing season is stupid when you require water from irrigation for it to grow!!
@coltondiehl535
@coltondiehl535 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is something people aren't talking about enough
@lilaclizard4504
@lilaclizard4504 3 жыл бұрын
yup! Logic should tell her to install a few fences & plant the native grasses that were there before whites & return the buffalo to the buffalo plains & she can grow them year round & sell them for a premium as "grass fed" without the need for any irrigation, just small amounts of drinking water for them (which they conveniently will deposit onto the plants with added fertiliser, therefore providing some irrigation too)
@lilaclizard4504
@lilaclizard4504 3 жыл бұрын
@ConfusedOilPainter do you realise even dirt from mines that has no soil qualities at all can be made to grow grasses with the right treatment? Here's an idea, before pretending you have a clue what you're talking about, why don't you go google image search "Australian cattle station" & see what the land that produces 5 million cattle a year looks like. If there was native grass there before, it can be returned again - IF she's a competent farmer (which I will admit she doesn't appear to be)
@joann5051
@joann5051 3 жыл бұрын
Fyi the idea of irrigating and farming in the desert came from the natives that lived here centuries ago.
@lilaclizard4504
@lilaclizard4504 3 жыл бұрын
​@@joann5051 They did it within their means though didn't they. Good large scale example of this can be seen in Mongolia, where people have lived happily in a cold desert for tens of thousands of years. In comes China & uses ground water in their neighbouring country for large scale, unsustainable agriculture & glamour projects & within a decade the wells in Mongolia are all running dry & threatening their continued existence in that tribal living & growing system that otherwise would still be thriving & would continue to indefinitely. Native Americans were no different
@teole6364
@teole6364 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, farming in the desert and pretending the water would last forever.
@rebeccaoprea9917
@rebeccaoprea9917 3 жыл бұрын
Israel does it .
@apeman9238
@apeman9238 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccaoprea9917 they use the dead sea to mine salt resulting in the "death" of the dead sea
@oldcountryman2795
@oldcountryman2795 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully these inefficient farms in the desert will never come back from this. This land is meant to be dry. It’s the desert.
@diablo55
@diablo55 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this may be one of the upsides of this situation, finally people may realize good production with “efficiency” as the sole metric is not sustainable
@why-xr6lg
@why-xr6lg 3 жыл бұрын
Ok not all of it is meant to be dry. It’s meant to be arid with riparian habitats along the lush rivers and streams. Dams have killed this landscape and terribly altered it. The ancestors knew this more and I wish I could have seen the beauty. I doubt it was completely dry and devoid of life. The desert was free and the water ways were free and grass grew.
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 3 жыл бұрын
The tree ring records and other fossil records tell us that the west coasts of North America and South America go through long-term cycles of wet and dry lasting centuries. That's a blink of an eye in geologic time. It will get wet and green again, though maybe not in our lifetimes.
@antred11
@antred11 3 жыл бұрын
@@diablo55 Except that what they're doing is the opposite of efficient. It is profitable, but only because the current price for water does not reflect its true value.
@shawncoleman669
@shawncoleman669 2 жыл бұрын
She refuted that statement of the Hoover dam becoming inoperable shortly. Too quickly. Which tells me they are obviously and with good reason panicking, they are more than likely trying to avoid widespread panic because the southern USA is about to become a wasteland again.
@jojothepolyglot1866
@jojothepolyglot1866 Жыл бұрын
Yes! She is not allowed to speak her mind and she said the truth at first and she backtracked and had to change her statement at the end..Hahahaha!
@stellapoulton9689
@stellapoulton9689 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Colorado. The river has never been so low and it’s sad. Lakes are closing because they’re too low, everything is dry. And nobody really talks about it
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 3 жыл бұрын
In 2020, I became more accustomed to ash falling from the sky than seeing rain.
@TEiAM808
@TEiAM808 3 жыл бұрын
its the beer and water companies raping your water
@Waxxumus
@Waxxumus 3 жыл бұрын
And Trump wanted the oil and gas industry to keep going strong. Keep polluting the environment and causing more global warming.
@SRMscott
@SRMscott 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because we were told climate change was going to put everyone under water due to the glaciers melting on the North Pole. Oops, what happened there?
@myagrimm4719
@myagrimm4719 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRMscott The glaciers melting will make sea levels rise which will effect the coast. Colorado, Arizona, etc are not on the coast.
@THEFIRE360
@THEFIRE360 3 жыл бұрын
Dust bowl #2 is coming right up. And the worst thing is, people are still moving there and building golf courses in the desert.
@mrike5651
@mrike5651 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus will come soon the world will be unprepared. Most will be left behind some will be lifted off the heavens.
@erickeller162
@erickeller162 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrike5651 Jesus isn't real, nor will Jesus help with the water situation.
@braincell4536
@braincell4536 3 жыл бұрын
@@erickeller162 Jesus will sacrifice himself again to bring the United States water
@erickeller162
@erickeller162 3 жыл бұрын
@@braincell4536 Yeah, except no.
@snaketiger00
@snaketiger00 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrike5651 get real, please. you are delusional
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 3 жыл бұрын
Patrolling the Colorado almost makes you wish for a torrential downpour.
@nearby222
@nearby222 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@lanusax
@lanusax 3 жыл бұрын
Brooo...
@adamtedder1012
@adamtedder1012 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe its time for millions to stop using the river. Maybe nuclear powered deslination plants. How can 40 million and growing expect to live off one river.
@rjd1564
@rjd1564 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe start with outright banning any golf courses and use the what’re they consume for farming, then focus on incentivizing private owners to set up gardens more in line with the environment that they live in, and try to shift farmland to less water consuming crops.
@rschloch
@rschloch 3 жыл бұрын
Well, now some Americans know how native communities living downstream did when we dammed the river.
@pkmkb007
@pkmkb007 3 жыл бұрын
And giving them electricity in return so that they can come out of mud huts and live in houses. I don't see why building dams is a bad thing?
@Niko-vh8jh
@Niko-vh8jh 3 жыл бұрын
@Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho Salmon is food nothing more. Nobody cares about them.
@Niko-vh8jh
@Niko-vh8jh 3 жыл бұрын
The water flow isn’t effected. Do you know how a hydro power plant works? It takes water, runs it through turbines then deposits it below the dam.
@EJ-bq1nu
@EJ-bq1nu 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkmkb007 Why do racists like you think that everyone else WANTS to be a parasite to the Earth. You want them to thank you for global warming and nuclear weapons too?
@rschloch
@rschloch 3 жыл бұрын
@@pkmkb007 it didn’t give ‘them’ electricity. It destroyed their livelihood.
@DirtyWorka
@DirtyWorka 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the old Sam Kinison bit. “You live in a fkn desert! There’s no water here! It’s sand!! Sand!!! Nothing grows in sand. Move where the water is!!!”
@jaelynn7575
@jaelynn7575 3 жыл бұрын
NO! Don't do that. We don't want 40 million people moving East.
@joeblow9126
@joeblow9126 3 жыл бұрын
He was referring to Ethiopia
@LK-pc4sq
@LK-pc4sq 3 жыл бұрын
100 years ago water flows in tuson and TREES were growing along the river banks. They are all gone!
@MrMemyselfandi415
@MrMemyselfandi415 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeblow9126 Go back and listen to it again. He said "we have deserts in America too A##HOLE...WE JUST DON'T LIVE IN EM". Well...he was mostly right...back then. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4K0Y5Wql86Xjac lol..."See this?....IT'S SAND...YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE IN 100 YEARS...SAND YOU A&&HOLES...SAAAND!!!"
@joeblow9126
@joeblow9126 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMemyselfandi415 thanks reply I just watched He screams so loud hard to understand him 😆 Every time I drive thru needles I think about him
@lotsoffish
@lotsoffish 2 жыл бұрын
There are currently 7.98 billion people living on this Planet, think that might have something to do with this?
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