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[@Wiredebikes]

Russ, NUMEROUS "Russ is Right" subscribers reached out to me today and politely explained how foolish I have been for not providing a bike to you for review! The team at WIRED would be honored if you would consider providing a review for our newly designed Cruiser model. I understand your hesitation to test the 41mph speed of this beauty....however....I must demand that you allow the WIRED Cruiser an opportunity to fight for the King of the Hill status!! All eyes will be watching this epic event, pitting the Cruiser against the Deer 20 for the ultimate title! Production models will be available in few weeks and I could provide you one then. Steven

[@RussIsRight]

Well, that is very kind of you. Obviously, I am indebted to my loyal viewers once again. While you know my stance on the 40 mph bike just from watching this video, I would be honored to give your new bike a fair and honest review. I know that many of my viewers have been asking me to do this, but as you know from watching the video today, I leave it to the manufacturers to reach out if they want me to work with them. So, sure, I would be happy to receive the Cruiser in exchange for a video review. Please email me at [e-mail] to go over details and exchange further info. Once again, thanks for offering your new ebike for review. - Russ

[@paulketchum6819]

Hey thanks Steven @WIRED for providing Russ the new Crusier model for review. Russ, looking forward to your review of the WIRED in the coming weeks. GREAT to see both of you working together!!

[@Nemonurwingy]

It’s going to be a sight to behold how much that bike will be King of the Hill by. I do think there’s a good chance Russ will like the bike a lot. It’s not radical in its styling, and put it in Class 2 mode and he can go to the botanic gardens with that kind of battery capacity. Congrats Russ, I’m looking forward to that review. We appreciate Wired reaching out.

[@mastrbuilder]

Most impressive, shout out to Russ and Wired for stepping up to the plate! Looking forward to that review.

[@paulketchum6819]

@@Nemonurwingy Agreed. I expect the Wired will exceed 20 mph and be the new King of the Hill. Russ is going to love this bike and will be his new long range bike.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Exactly...15 mph is 15 mph...it is all about respect to other people and not riding dangerously....

[@MumfordJim]

Yes, Yes, Yes ….. It is a bicycle and you should pedal a bicycle. A throttle should be used for an emergency. I do understand that some use it for starting from a stop. Personally I don’t. My personal opinion.

[@hawksnest8635]

@@MumfordJim when your only 50lbs more than the bike you're riding and have a Cadence Sensor, i find it better if i start off with throttle.

[@troluc6204]

Hi Russ, So glad that Wired reached out to you buddy… I am one of the folks that suggested to them your channel might be a good fit especially with the new design due to the long range aspect (2100wh should easily get you around 65-75 miles of range going 18-22mph like you do) I hardly comment as I’m a TV watcher and I just subscribed tonight even though your videos get sent to me every Mon Tues Thurs and Sat. My wife still has her Magicycle Ocelot Pro but I sold my Magicycle Cruiser last year and bought the 2024 Wired Freedom and I really like it! The power is there when you need it especially up a hill as you will soon see when it hits 22mph on the hill test!! Just program for a slower start (for your safety) on PAS but you should still have full power under throttle which helps get you out of tough situations… The new Wired Cruiser will be my next bike as having dual suspension in a step thru is just awesome - I’m sure you will enjoy and make dozens of videos with the Wired bike because it really performs in many ways other than just raw power. Take care,

[@RussIsRight]

Thank you so much!

[@paulketchum6819]

@troluc6204 I too contacted Steven the owner of Wired highly recommending Russ and his channel. So happy Steven reached out to Russ and he accepted the invite. I think both will benefit from this relationship. Russ will love the new design and long extended range of the Wired Crusier, which I ordered last week. I also have the Magicycle Crusier Pro love the bike!

[@troluc6204]

Congrats Paul on the new Cruiser bike order (no doubt it will be sweet!) and yea I still have my original Magicycle Cruiser Pro bike up in Idaho where there are some really fantastic trails…

[@paulketchum6819]

@@troluc6204 👏🏻👏🏻❤️

[@blintzkreig1638]

I do not watch your videos for speed tests so much. Just enjoy watching the scenery on the trails.

[@stanpurves9677]

I am 71. I am no longer young and reckless and don't have the need for speed. However, with that being said . I still am not willing to drive around in an underpowered VW bug or a 50cc scooter. There has to be a balance. I would like to have speed and power at my disposal when a situation requires it. Such as steep hills and pulling away from a standstill situation. Also power and quick response time and when trying to avoid unsafe conditions. Just because you have it doesn't mean you have to flaunt it. At the end of long ride or pending bad weather, it's nice to know you can cruise back home safe and sound. For the past three years I have been riding a heavy 26 inch wheel ebike with 48v, 20AH battery with 18 amp controller, with a 500w rear hub motor. I find this to be just a little underpowered. I feel a few more volts and a lot more amps, and perhaps a larger motor would help with performance. Be wise, stay alert ⚠️ , watch out for the other guy and motorist and ride safe.

[@ByteMyWire]

Looks like I see the E-Bike company near you is offering their new updated Cruiser to you. I ordered the Freedom inspiring version in early April and will be getting the new model as well. Why did I order that bike with all the choices out there? It fit what I was looking for. Top Speed is just a bonus. I wanted a fat tire bike for mostly cruising paths. I wanted it to look mostly like a mountain bike, without the lean over rider positions MTB's generally offer. I plan on using this bike as a Adventure bike. The main reason I bought it is for fun. It just looks fun. I'm 60 now, have raced BMX and toured thousands of miles on nothing but pedals. I could pedal faster than a Class 3. I've hit 55MPH on 1" tires, which was terrifyingly fun, descending out of Yosemite, passing 3 cars in the process. I'm just gonna cruise this bike, not terrorize trails like I'm in sort of mini version of Isle of Man TT on the bike path. LOL 😁

[@Larrys-Views]

I think you're right about not pursuing a 60v bike. I'm 69 and I have one but not the brand near you. I've always been in to speed and I use to race dirt bikes. The company would want to see constant fast speeds and off road dirt style riding. Russ, you do great at what you do, don't change and chance getting injured.

[@Nemonurwingy]

I have an EUC that’ll go 40ish or above depending on charge, but I rarely go 35, usually 30 or less most rides. I do like that no hill will knock me below 25 and I can accelerate like crazy if I want to. The main times I go fast is if I encounter a 35 mph road that I need to go on to get up to the next neighborhood road, but I don’t want to go full blast most of the time. I go fast mostly just to be safer and to get off that road as fast as possible. I’d certainly buy a faster ebike in the right circumstances. I can confirm the reasons why having a more powerful bike might appeal, but would add hill climbing. You don’t have to go fast if you don’t want to, but it’s nice to have the power available sometimes.

[@davidfarm8095]

Need to watch area 13 post on New Federal Law on ebikes?! Urgent deadline! Need to use link and let CPSC know your views on ebike rules that can effect us all. There link on Area 13 post. only 7 days left to respond. Need smart people like you Russ and your views to respond.

[@kirkjohnson1389]

I'll unlock any bike to go as fast as it can go but that doesn't mean that i will go faster.

[@herado3798]

This is return to your site in almost two months. I was in a car accident that left me in a coma. I got ran over by a propane truck. I was in my bmw z+4 sports car. It wasn't: pretty. Now I am home recovering. I can't wait to get to ride my e-bike. Watching your video make me want to work harder, so I can ride my bike. Thank you.

[@RussIsRight]

Very sorry to learn you got hurt in an accident! My first thought was that you were on a bike, but apparently it was in your car. Still, being in a coma from the accident is very serious. Take your time to recover from your injuries. If you are doing any kind of physical therapy, work hard on it. I did two years to rehab my replaced knee so I know that continual work helps. Take care. Let us know when you are back on your bike.

[@pedrofernandez8729]

Russ is Right is one of the most serious and respected e bike channels on YT. No crazy riding, no modded e bikes that go 50 mph, none of that crap. Just facts and enjoyable riding scenery.

[@RussIsRight]

Thanks!

[@paulketchum6819]

Russ is the "Grand Master Flash" of ebike channels on YT. I attribute much of my ebike education and enthusiasm to him.

[@pedrofernandez8729]

@@paulketchum6819 I wish I had discovered his channel before I bought mine, I certainly would have not screwed up like I did, but also back then, there was much less to pick from.

[@paulketchum6819]

@@pedrofernandez8729 Agreed! I made my mistake the same way. Now I know better😂

[@curiousrelic]

Totally agree. Speeding will definitely get our e-bikes banned on local trails. 20-25mph is fast for me.😎 But obviously much slower on local trails.

[@Gary_Snook]

I am interested in E Cells 5 star plus they ships to Canada. I would not unlock to go 40 mph, 28 mph is fast enough on any bike. I bet the new King of the hill would be E cells 5 stars.

[@ebike_tinkerer]

I'm going to come at this a bit differently. I have my 750w mid drive "bike trail" ebike. I built her for torque to move my fat butt up big hills. I've just ordered one of those 40mph+ more style bikes as well. Not for trail riding, but for use in the Streets for commuting and errands. I don't plan on going over 35, but having the extra power with the hub motor should help her me up the hills.

[@plummjk]

I would not ride an ebike 40mph. I’m 76 yrs old, I sometimes reach 25 mph on my Ocelot Pro and at that speed it would really hurt if I went down, if I recovered at all, so Russ, I pretty much agree with you!

[@UncleJam5624]

I think the speed seems excessive to you because you live in area with pretty flat terrain beside the little speed bump you ride up in the park. 😀 The area I live in has few trails and a lot of inclines and hills. So do you want to go up a hill at 4-5 mph with a lot of work with a 750 watt motor, or 10-15mph with a more powerful bike. Plus class three bikes are not allowed on most trails in Michigan.

[@dannyorourke8434]

I agree with you. I would like to get up to speed faster. I'm not worried about top-speed

[@UncleJam5624]

The DNR of Michigan said the most complaints they receive are from e-bikers exceeded the 15mph speed limit.

[@HappyTrails50]

I think Wired Freedom is named freedom for a reason. Freedom to choose the class you are riding in by setting speed limiter in settings oneself rather then being regulated by manufacture. A big bonus of these more powerful freedom to choose class bikes is you also gain torque , wanna go up that hill fast then you want freedom. My wife and I have two Magicycles cruisers and Himiway both known for good torque but still limited by small controller and customer regulated speed limiters reducing to European like standards every quarter it seams. If your a commuter and it’s only safe to flow with traffic hope you have the Freedom to do so. Wanna rip around your own property at your own pace then you want the Freedom to do so. Me, for my next bike as Mel Gibson said best I want “FREEDOM” Wired of coarse.

[@Lori-rg4fu]

You have the best e bike videos for people looking to buy a bike

[@RussIsRight]

Thanks!

[@Lori-rg4fu]

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[@RussIsRight]

😊 Thanks!

[@Fro_20]

Russ my friend. I am 45 years old and live near the Fox River trail. The "W" brand bike is awesome. I own one. I have fully unlocked mine for of road hill climbing. You can toggle the power thru the display. When I am on the trail I only ride 15 to 17 mph top speed as I love ebikes and don't want them to have a bad name. I'm just saying just cause they have the power does not mean everyone is using them for evil. The power is up to the user. Thanks, buddy keep ebiking.

[@davidgraham2673]

I also have the beast. They have upgraded it, yet again. It gets a free second battery, under the back rack. It gets 4 piston 203mm hydraulic brakes. New better quality from brakes, and oh yes.....a 45 Amp controller, and a 3,000 watt hub motor. There's even more, but that's the quick rundown. YIKES

[@brucefiander3458]

There is nothing like the sound of an ocean to help one remember or forget. I feel the same with riding ebikes. It has a way of clearing the head. Russ in answer to your question, no I would not buy a high speed ebike. If I want speed I can choose to ride e-motorcycles that are now in the market. In the spirit of ebiking, too many regulations would loose my interest in biking. I can live with ebike Class 2 and be fine. Speed becomes marginal with Class 3. With regards to stability, the mass of an ebike at some point would fail at high speed, not to mention the hazards we would be creating with the public out for a stroll. So thumbs up to keeping ebikes slow and trail safe👍

[@blintzkreig1638]

I always loved walking through Deer Grove when I lived up there. No paved trails there back in the 70's.

[@jarmelbarnett6922]

Hi Russ, would I try the “W” bike that will do 40 MPH? Yes I would unlock it. When I was younger, I loved riding fast on my bicycle. I’ve ridden close to 50 MPH going down hill and I rode with bike racers. Now in my 70’s, I’d like to have the ability to ride faster when situations dictate ie: out running dogs, getting out of the way of cars and maybe even some people. I would not ride at that speed routinely, but at a speed to keep up with traffic. I agree that keeping up with traffic is much safer. I am more of a street rider. Thanks for the platform to share our thoughts. I too live in the Chicago area and may try the “W” bike.

[@kenslavikrealtorkellerwill6671]

Great discussion Russ. With speed comes higher risk for damage not only to the rider but to what ever you crash into. If you do not have insurance your could be paying out a lot of money to settle damages. Furthermore, rider reaction times are compromised at higher speed resulting in less time to make maneuvering decisions that will keep you out of harms way. Where I ride in rural Chester county PA, there is always a chance that a deer, fox, rabbit, squirrel, opossum will dart out in front of you as you ride. At higher speeds you are likely to hit them if they run out in front of you. Your total weight -bike and rider- are likely to become unstable and you loose control and are having a wipe out. At slower speeds you have a better chance of maintaining control or avoiding the animal completely. Lastly, if you are a heavy rider and/or ride in an area that has extensive hills, then the added power of 750+ watts will make it easier to get around.

[@wawalker1]

I think 28 is fast enough. Mine is unlocked to 28 with PAS 5 and peddled and 20 throttled. You need a bike to outrun the dogs!

[@Marilynlovesebiking]

Hi Russ. That Wired ebike cruiser looks beefy and cool. Comes in interesting colors. I can see using the speed on a busy street to get yourself off of it faster. Me, I do not like doing much over 20mph. But I do not ride busy, city/town streets. You have excellent reviews, so I can see why companies would want to send you an ebike. But I would like a bike with a lot of power since it is very hilly around here and my bike struggles a bit. I get up them but not as fast as I would like.

[@RussIsRight]

We will have to wait and see how I will approach the Wired Cruiser as to riding it. I doubt I will do its maximum speed but who knows for the test. On a daily basis, no way. I will talk more about this issue in a future video.

[@bobmorris6599]

If I were thinking about an ebike that would do 40mph, I'd also be thinking about a motorcycle. In fact, before I bought my first ebike, I was looking at small displacement motorcycles but got an ebike for the exercise. About ebike classes, we should drop them and just set speed limits for ebikes.

[@trsdamocles]

its not the speed, it's the torque to get there(hill,hills, hills). Where I ride the bike(wallke h6st) dips down to 6mph with pedaling up hills. Usually, torque comes with wattage unless it is shunt modded. The only ones that do super awesome on hills are the duals but they need 40ah of battery for distance.I want e-cells or wired for single motor.

[@Joerides7]

I want to get a 40mph bike, but I'm waiting. There's an upgrade war between E-Cells and Wired right now. I'm sure there are some upset recent customers of both brands with all the changes between shipments of these bikes.

[@TheCaptain756]

Understand where you are coming from Russ. I rarely go more than 23-24 mph on my class3 that can throttle to 28. However as a new ebike purchaser, had these bikes been available when I bought mine, I would give them serious consideration and not just because of their speed. Still happy with what I have 3 years later, but the list of things it doesn’t have keeps getting longer. Maybe new regs will tame the wild west of ebikes. Good vid, good topic!

[@user-iw9iv1hy1x]

I’m interested in the new E cells

[@jfly2249]

Too bad it’s not competitive with the Wired Bikes anymore. 1000 extra watts hundreds of $$ less expensive and Wired innovates whereas e cells is an unethical company that doesn’t pay taxes and blatantly copied Wired. Going to be lots of availability of Wired Bikes soon where you will wait months for an inferior model from a loon.

[@user-iw9iv1hy1x]

@@jfly2249 I don’t know why you people repeat things you heard instead of things you Know. Wire or wicked ( first name ) took a spin off on e cells super monarch bike which were around before wicked started .

[@jfly2249]

@@user-iw9iv1hy1xe cells is a fraud who never thought of making a 60 volt bike for $2000 before Wired. There is no market in 2024 for $5500 AWD e-bikes so in desperation, e cells copies Wired drivetrain exactly and is reusing an old frame not designed for a high powered rear hub. The back dropouts look suspect as hell. E cells doesn’t collect taxes because the owner is a crook and doesn’t think he needs to. The way they have trolled is shameful and the e shills crew of DC DC AT is laughable. Wait about a month when Wired has bikes in stock and you have a 75 day wait for a more expensive, far less capable bike from a psycho. It’s over. By the time they copy this design, Wired will be upping the ante again.

[@bigguy1403]

Hi Russ...New to your channel. I'm 66 and my wife is 56 and we've ridden many a bike but decided to buy our first Ebikes yesterday. There 1000Watt fat tire 4" rated at 35 mph and my wife got hers up to 37mph so that was good but we're like you not into the whole speed thing but it's nice to know you can if you need to. I'm 6'4 285 lbs and I got mine to 27 which was fine by me. I'm going to get to 245. I started at 315 and in 30 days lost first 31 lbs. Great diet and exercise. So anyways we were out on the bike trail in the park by us and within 10 minutes got passed by this skinny ass women who screamed out get off the trail saying no electric bikes and I caught up to her and replied you dumb b***h that sign is for motorcycles and razors that this is a bike! My wife was like Wow....getting to unlocking the speed limiter yes 100% I would. Thanks for great video.

[@mastrbuilder]

Russ, keep doing what you are doing. I have an Ariel Rider Kepler. Some have gotten that bike to go as fast as 40. I have had it up to 35 out of curiosity and that was way too fast for me. I typically never go above 25, more than that is too scary for this 68 year old dude. I mainly bought this bike for the 108Nm of torque. I ride on hilly trails and streets the ability to go fast is a just a bi-product for me.

[@paulketchum6819]

Ariel Rider makes a great line of ebikes, they're one of the best.

[@cherylnewell9912]

Learn something every day

[@victorrood8219]

hi russ get your hands on a 5 star duel motor very nice ebike but too fast for me im more for range.

[@Bloodburn]

I wonder, was anyone around in the forest to hear that tree fall? lol

[@RussIsRight]

😜

[@southernebiking]

BTW. my understanding of the class three is, there is no throttle. A lot of Ebike companies have said that a class three can throttle up to 20 mph. Most states, it is listed as a pedal assist only, no throttle. I also have discovered that the 750 W is the peak limit, not nominal. I’m actually getting ready to do a video on why this would be important.

[@laplantemichel709]

If WIRED were sold in Canada i would buy one and i would definitely max out settings and try it out ,but wouldn't run max speed to often as i dont run my midrive max speed to often (30+)but it's good to have imo.

[@RicLevine]

Russ, you are right...of course...that we older folks (70 y.o. here)...well...those of us who want to be around a few more years...are not interested in 40mph bikes. I agree as well that, the more those bikes (and faster riders) show up on trails...more regulations will not be far behind.

[@billbetts847]

Way to go on weight loss!! Keep up the good work!!!

[@MumfordJim]

Call it something different (maybe a motorcycle). Require a license for it, with plates and registration. Helmet required. This way bike paths can choose to restrict these.

[@fernandapacheco6558]

Hi Russ! My Ebike has a top speed of 15mph but I have it unlocked so I can do 20mph. There is a trail near me that I do ride on and it allows all Ebikes and has a speed limit of 15mph. When I'm on that trail I do keep my speed locked so I won't exceed the speed limit, however lol I think I'm the only one that does it because people just fly right past me and either yell at me or give me the evil eye for going "to slow" even though I'm doing the limit lol. I would like an Ebike that will take me up to 28mph but not much faster than that. In my opinion anything over 28mph is crazy and if someone wants to go faster than just get a motorcycle.

[@tonygiancoli9626]

I generally go 13-15 mph on the bike trails as I like getting some range, too. However, to me, the biggest speed culprits on the American River Bike Trail (32 miles long from Sacramento to Folsom) are the analog road bikers. Those dudes are regularly going over 20mph & believe the trail belongs ONLY to them. They hate, equally, ebikers, hikers, mothers with strollers, runners, walkers, horseback riders... everyone. Granted, the dudes, mostly kids, going fast on their Surron's give ebikers a bad name, but, other than those, the vast majority of bikers out there now are ebikers, which I know just grinds the gears of the wanna-be Lance Armstrongs wearing their racing kits on a suburban multi-use trail.

[@paulketchum6819]

@@tonygiancoli9626 Agreed! I live in Sacramento too, been on that same trail and used to live nearby on Arden Way and Fair Oaks Blvd😂I got the exact same impression being looked down upon by the spandex guys with my ebike. Glad to hear the vast majority are now ebikers getting those analog road bikers all bent out of shape🤣

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

And fishing and music videos...😁

[@jfly2249]

Many people want high powered bikes so that they can safely keep up with traffic on suburban roads. 750watt is ridiculously underpowered for a fat tire bike if there are any hills or a slight breeze and 28mph is too slow and puts you right in the crosshairs of suburban traffic. The original classifications were arbitrary and are clearly outdated given changes in technology. The Wired Cruiser or Freedom at $2000 for a 2100 watt hour battery with a 60v 3200 watt peak motor is just as home on the bike path as on street. I never ride over 35mph personally, but I want to accelerate quickly when needed for safety. Don’t ride like a jerk and ride slow and be courteous on bike paths when near others. It would be a shame to see a new form of EV eliminated by a bunch of Karen’s.

[@ArmandGirard]

If you want something that goes faster than 28mph, then get a electric motorcycle.

[@tomreece1058]

Good point about being fast enough among traffic. As a former motorcyclist I'm often spooked about how slow I am on my 750-watt e-bike.

[@paulketchum6819]

@jfly2249 Agreed! I just ordered the Wired Crusier in black for the same reasons.

[@jfly2249]

@@paulketchum6819You won’t believe how good these bikes are. You will never want to ride a normal 48v bike again.

[@paulketchum6819]

@@jfly2249 Hey thanks looking forward to it!!!

[@paulketchum6819]

Hey Russ, you finally went off road around that fallen tree🤣Anyway, lots to talk about on a great topic. Yeah I just ordered the Wired Crusier and yes it does 40 mph but I purchased it bc of other reasons; second 60A integrated battery on the rear rack for extended range, 56T 11/28 flywheel to reduce ghost peddling, BMX style handlebars, rear air suspension, updated color display and the all new step thru design. The rear hub motor is relatively quite even at high speeds and with 153nm of torque will provide the acceleration I want, especially when competing with cars. Will I go 40 mph? Probably not!😂But low 30+ mph yes and prefer 22-28 mph. The Wired Crusier is UL certified not just the battery but all electrical components. Ebikes are not all about speed and throttling past 40 mph. I wanted a quality ebike with great design, and 2 integrated batteries. This met my needs all with no price increase from the previous models. Out the door price low $2,400 with tax, insurance and shipping. I highly considered the Ariel Rider Grizzly V3 with dual batteries but was $1,000 more and the Wired was a better option. I'm glad you said you would take one if offered. I certainly hope Wired provides you with one to review bc you would provide an honest, informative and detailed review. I believe your demographics would be interested in this. But it doesn't mean that you would have to go 40+ mph on Rand Road🤣Simply ride your ebike the way you want to, what you feel comfortable at and just enjoy it! Just my 2 cents😂Great video as always Russ👍

[@RussIsRight]

Good points.

[@paulketchum6819]

@@RussIsRight Thanks!

[@johns5504]

Russ, someone just came out with a Video of a bike from some company near you that did a duration test in PAS three, between 20-22 mph and got almost 40 miles. Now this guy is younger but weighs 225#, close to your weight. Now, since I am a smidgeon older than you and own that bike, like those speeds too, its worth the look imo

[@ArmandGirard]

The Federal government's definition of electric bicycle classifications from the very beginning never allowed a throttle on a Class 3 bike. It's the manufacturers that tried to redefine what a Class 3 bike was by allowing a throttle to only assist up to 20 mph. We currently have very little government regulations of e-bikes but if more bikes are sold that go faster than 28 mph it is eventual that government (most likely at the state level) will come out with more restrictive regulations. We are starting to see this in some states where they require registration and insurance for Class 3 e-bikes. As for trail riding, almost all trails here in Florida have speed limits but not class limits. I can ride my Class 3 bike (which does not have a throttle) on a trail as long as I don't exceed the speed limit.

[@theflyingfinn6057]

Had to laugh! I went to the store yesterday and in the bike rack was an electric motorcycle with no pedals and had a sticker saying class 2 - 28 mph. Who are they trying to fool!

[@RussIsRight]

😳

[@bennyhill4228]

Personally as someone in my mid 50's i prefer distance over speed, although if i was still in my 20's i would probably want speed 😆For instance one of my Bikes has a 1000w motor with a 20ah battery, and i use the limit wire on the controller to limit the power, but it can cover a fair distance on a single charge. Edit...to add, here in the UK, we are limited to a 250w motor 15.5Mph and Throttle is banned, but many people do use bigger motors and throttles, there is talk that UK may increase Max Motor Power to 500 W in the near future.

[@Joerides7]

Faster the better for me. I've owned motorcycles most of my life, so speed on two wheels is no issue for me. I've gone as fast or even faster than these e-bikes you are talking about on my regular road bikes. Mountain descents in Colorado up to 50mph, 40mph downhills in my area all the time. I ride most of the time on my local country and gravel roads. Nobody cares how fast you ride on those roads.

[@johns5504]

Did you get pulled over?

[@Joerides7]

@@johns5504 I haven't been, but I've seen other road cyclists pulled over a couple of times. Doesn't happen too often though, at least not in my area.

[@AKCobra1120]

Yes and no. Yes I'd buy a bike with that capability, and no I wouldn't unlock the top speed. I'm quite satisfied with the speed of my 750 watt bike, but what I would like is more hill climbing power. Like you I'm a heavier guy in my 60s,but unlike you I live in a very hilly area. I have no interest in going 40 mph, but more power on hills would be nice. As for the ratings, as usual they're way more complicated than they need to be. I don't really see what difference a throttle makes. Class 1 - 250 watts or less. Class 2 - 250-500 watts. Class 3 - 500-750 watts. Class 4 (requires a drivers license) - 750-1500 Watts +. Class 5 (Requires a motorcycle license) - Over 1500 Watts. You could adjust the numbers of course, but you get the idea. That is simple, universal, and would make sense instead of this over complicated mess we have now. How I ride: On the streets, if I'm riding for a workout I keep it in PA1 and pedal. If I'm riding to get somewhere (like to a trail), I put it in PA5 (roughly 25 mph with me riding, capable of 28 with a lighter rider) and throttle. On trails I ride in PA1 and peddle, and PA1 on my bike is about 14 mph.

[@leerosing4388]

I have a duel motor bike 250 watt in front 350 in the rear wheel . I believe 96 NM of torque. 26"0 with 4" fat tires generally ride at 15mph

[@tonysmith5507]

Absolutely ... Torque over h.p. wins the day every time you might have to get a high H.p. bike just for the Torque especially with older heavier people . larger batteries or multiple batteries is a plus .😉

[@FPD194]

Russ, I agree with you, I would not ride above the 28 mph. I think it may be unsafe at 40 mph, not so much from your riding skills, but time to react when riding with vehicles or unfamiliar roads. Also, don't need to give the ebike haters more ammo!

[@richarddkearney]

I have no interest in getting an ebike that violates bike rules that allow me to travel in areas where bikes are allowed. In my state, if your ebike doesn't classify as class 1 2 or 3 then you have to register it and pay taxes and insurance on it and are not allowed on sidewalks or biking paths. Besides that, when I'm going downhill and my speed gets above 30, it gets a bit scary due to me imagining how painful wrecking at this speed will be.

[@ebikeengineer]

We really need to discuss motors. What makes a motor 750W? Is it the max capability before it burns out (some think this)? Is it the nominal rating that the motor can run continously as long as it's fed (most fall in this camp)? For the latter doesn't a 2KW motor fall into that catagory as long as the controller doesn't feed it more than 750W? Heck I've run Bafang 250W geared hub motors at over 600W with no issues, and I know other tinkerers that run them in the kilowatt range with some mods. I'm really getting over this whole Watt limit and we should be focusing on speed limits. For example my 26" 750W Bafang mid drive (44T chainring) can move me up my street at 12mph with full throttle, It takes a 1200W 24" hub motor to move me at the same speed on the same hill (in both cases I was using a 52v battery). The latter bike's controller also put out 13 more Amps. I doubt the same hub motor, limited to 750W, would have gotten me up the hill (which is the whole point of e-bikes).

[@dogmom9928]

40 mile an hour. thats not a bike... glad you dont ride that fast. thats Russ for the nice trail ride.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Great idea....retest Deer after big weight loss...

[@dennisbrown3652]

Everyone wants more power. For the average rider they don’t want to ride that fast. Most of us older people are out for the lesser rides not the speed or power. It’s getting to be an over kill on these new power bikes. I’m sick of these manufacturers pushing power and speed. We are riding bikes not driving cars.

[@stellar808]

“I’m built for comfort, I ain’t built for speed….” (Howlin’ Wolf) 40MPH on an e-bike! Not even. City wide speed limit here is 35mph, 25mph in school zones. Trails on the GreenBelt, Class2 OR 20mph. “Safety is job 1”.

[@Larrys-Views]

I wanted to comment about unlocking. Compare bikes to motorized vehicles. Let's say max speed limit is 55. It's up to people if they want to do 55 or 85 and up to the law to stop it. Actually, I'm sick of government regulations. I guess the real problem is, idiots flying by people walking on trails. When riding on the roads here in Indiana, the same laws are for bicycles too. You obey stops signs, etc. and you can get fined for speeding especially in school zones. There are just too many non compliant people riding bicycles.

[@oh7gsxr1000]

I would like to get a faster ebike not so much because I wanna ride 40mph on trails but more so for riding on the street.

[@southernebiking]

I advocated long ago for anything that is not a true class one class two or class three to be nine something different or the regulations were coming. Here we are. The general public feels like all E bikes are super fast. Basically motorcycles with an electric motor. Of course that’s not correct. But that also is irrelevant that it is not correct. The regulations are definitely on their way. Hopefully it won’t go the same direction as drones, were three wheel off-road motorcycles from decades ago. I will also add there is a huge misunderstanding of what a true class of ebike is.

[@kmtnbike1117]

Most of those 40 mph bikes components are so mediocre that I wouldn’t trust riding them and think I could stop or hit the first big bump and have no control. That said I have a 40+ bike I built with top of the line components and trust it to stop on a dime if need be with suspension that is well over $1500 to withstand just about anything I hit. I ride most of the time at around 150w pedaling with a max pas set at 350w and throttle 1000w. Bike is capable of 5Kw but rarely ever use accept to get off busy roads. Just be respectful and we all can enjoy our e-bikes for a very long time. Cheers

[@jfly2249]

The thru axle and 4 pot brakes on 203 rotors on the Wired bikes offers more safety improvement than any bike Russ owns. A fat tire bike without a thru axle in 2024 is very dangerous in comparison.

[@RussIsRight]

@jfly2249 I have several bikes with through axles and four piston brakes.

[@kmtnbike1117]

@@RussIsRight Funny thing for me is I have 2 e-bikes and just bought a carbon fiber Cervelo road bike that I pedal faster than any of my e-bikes. Amazing how little effort it is to move an aero bike that weighs 18lbs. Can’t say that about my e-bikes unless under a bit of juice⚡️

[@blown9646]

Pedaling 32-34mph is awesome, wind permitting. Dont think theyll give ya one if you dont rip it, Russ. Also, why not have your phone gps on at same time

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Class thing i never worry i ha v e class 2 sticker so that what i got lol

[@laplantemichel709]

Not sure ebike wheels are made to sustain 40mph unless you have sealed wheel bearings .What you find mostly on the front wheel is single ball bearings ,so not great .

[@plummjk]

Russ, is it possible to convert the Ocelet Pro to a torque sensor as a Opposed to the included cadence sensor that it comes with? Thanks

[@RussIsRight]

Not that I know of.

[@kenboyb]

I have the Ecells triple crown 3000 Amazing bike and yes it’s fully unlocked!!

[@jfly2249]

At $5500, buy a car😂😂😂

[@dennisbrown3652]

The laws will change. Ca only allows bike motors rated at 750W. These power guys will ruin the bike paths for others to ride.

[@hawksnest8635]

where can i find your review of the Engwe E26? I looked back as much as i could. Thanks

[@RussIsRight]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/raTVcoN3jcuFaac

[@hawksnest8635]

@@RussIsRight thank you

[@randymcgill7981]

40 mph is ridiculous on a bike. An open invitation for regulations. I'm content riding 11-13 mph, while the bike is capable of 28, and when I was first looking for an e-bike speed was one of the main things I was looking for. After i got the bike I found going 20+mph not to my liking.

[@Marilynlovesebiking]

Are you selling the Deer 20 or keeping it? I need to go ride one. I really like the looks of it.

[@RussIsRight]

Keeping it for now. It's a great bike! 😊

[@Marilynlovesebiking]

Good to hear.

[@clintnelson8785]

i wouldn't do foury

[@dennisbrown3652]

No ! 😅

[@hawksnest8635]

I would have to disagree with speeding up on a busy road without a bike lane. I drive for work a lot, and a slower bike is much safer to pass then one that is almost at set speed limit.

[@cherylnewell9912]

Well my bike will go 29mph if i throttle and pedal. I have not unlock my bike, so i guess i have class 3

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Need to carry a chainsaw...🤔😉🤣😂

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Post mph let it go

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Just like a car or motor cycle should be stopped at 71 mph

[@vendettarules1]

40mph for a bike is too fast. It's not structurally solid enough for those speeds. If ya wanna go 40mph get a scooter!

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Great video and intellectual discussion! 💪🦵🚴‍♂️

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

You just demonstrated how important weight is to ebike speed! 💪🦵🚴‍♂️