40 Team NHL Expansion and Realignment Proposal

[@ogreman-lll-957]

Why would tampa be in the Atlantic? When you can simply swap them with Columbus and that will reduce travel costs.

[@ElmerFudd16]

Beat me to it. This is the only problem I see.

[@ogreman-lll-957]

ElmerFudd16 yea then call the metropolitan the Atlantic and Atlantic northeast

[@krispyboi2519]

They already are

[@aaronlitzo1527]

Tampa is already in the Atlantic

[@ogreman-lll-957]

@@aaronlitzo1527 I know that’s why I am saying to move them to the metropolitan

[@chriswoodsofficial]

i dream of the day quebec city and hartford get their teams back, and i would LOVE to see anchorage get a team. Alaskan hockey would be BADASS!!!

[@daveizdebski]

Looking at the 24 Team Tournament we had here in 2020, that would be a perfect playoff format for a 40 team league

[@kyle1195]

Nah too many teams top 2 from each five team division would be perfect why have 3 teams from each div you’d have insanely mediocre teams make it already got too many teams like that in the playoffs.

[@cdubs2771]

I would love a team in Milwaukee

[@jasonhuibers2315]

Bettman hates Canada. Few places a new team could end up in Canada but never will. Bring back the Whalers. Good video but no way a Saskatchewan and Halifax team ever happens or does well

[@YoYo-hb9si]

I know so many people who want those teams its insane, it could happen but it's not very likely

[@jayarnie3934]

Do one on the National Lacrosse League. Would seem interesting and good. I like your league ideas.

[@robserrano8971]

I would add VICTORIA VOYAGERS TO PACIFIC, OKLAHOMA CITY GAMBLERS OR TULSA TWISTERS TO CENTRAL, WINDSOR AVIATORS ATLANTIC, AND VIRGINIA BEACH NEPTUNES TO METROPOLITAN.

[@EdV-et6qm]

Saskatoon or Halifax can't support an NHL team. THEY ARE TOO SMALL. Metro Halifax is just 430,000 and Saskatoon only has 330,000 and you can't rely too much on Regina (160 miles away) for 41 Saskatoon home games or other parts of Nova Scotia for Halifax either especially over a full 41 home games in Canadian winters to pay NHL ticket prices. PLUS you need to sell 1000s of corporate seats to make it work and sell 16,000+ tickets per game. You add the 1.5 billion US dollars needed to afford NHL expansion costs and building an NHL size Arena. PIPE DREAM Replace Saskatoon and Halifax with Austin, Texas (Pop: 2,25 million) and San Diego (Pop: 3.38 million). Both are fast-growing and affluent American cities with many large corporations, wealthy Americans and are 8-10 times larger in size than Saskatoon or Halifax. PS: Austin and San Diego have both been reported to be on the NHL watchlist.

[@friggo3869]

Smart

[@routliffer]

I don't think the NHL would split up Toronto Ottawa Toronto Montreal and Toronto Boston but other than that I love the video and I would love to see this!

[@tirabraddin2124]

Despite What Everyone Says... This Isn't A Bad Concept At All... I Like It

[@trevormcdermott]

some things have to be changed to reduce travel costs that won’t have any downsides.

[@mikerodrigues2906]

Hamilton and Quebec city must have teams

[@jasonhuibers2315]

I agree but Bettman hates Canada for some reason and Toronto and Buffalo complained they would lose revenue if Hamilton got a team from the blackberry owner who wanted it. Hamilton would do well and Toronto wouldn't be hurt by it. Buffalo would be alot of people from Niagara and Hamilton area go to Buffalo because it's cheaper then Toronto. Also Saskatchewan and Halifax are bad areas for a team. Quebec would be great to see again

[@johnholliday2510]

Yeah, let’s over expand and water down the talent so we have a league that’s not worth watching anymore. Great plan.

[@timtwoface]

Thats what people said when we expanded to 12 all the way to 30 and 31. The talent now is better than ever, just spread across more teams.

[@FunWithMemesFunWithMemes]

Water down? This allows more talent to enter the league

[@jareddudleythegoat7220]

This would add more talent to the league...

[@Mickelraven]

This is a concept I 100% agree with! Here's a timeline of how I think everything should go Phase 1 - Relocating teams: 2023 - Arizona -> Houston 2024 - Florida -> Quebec Phase 2 - 36 team NHL: 2026 - Salt Lake City and Milwaukee (Nashville moves to Metropolitan division) 2027 - Kansas City and Hamilton Phase 3 - 40 team NHL: 2031 - Halifax 2032 - Saskatchewan 2033 - Portland and Hartford

[@kyle1195]

Could happen probably be more like 30 years from now tho the NHL will be content up until four new teams want to join at the same time which could be 10 years from now

[@carlellis7708]

Yeah, Hamilton Isn’t Getting A Team As Long As Toronto Is There

[@krispyboi2519]

Buffalo was the only team who vetoed the expansion idea when it was brought up in the 70s (unanimous vote required) Toronto, the closer team, approved

[@EdV-et6qm]

Plus Ottawa with 1,430,000 people (4-6 times larger than Halifax or Saskatoon) and without Federal government buying tickets ... Ottawa is struggling a bit financially. How can Halifax or Saskatoon make money ?????

[@martinberthiaume5751]

I agree. Even Ottawa have been mentionned to be potentionaly be relocated in Quebec City if they don't have a new arena deal.

[@glassestarzan8702]

Halifax has the entire Maritimes it can support not just Halifax itself. Market it as a Maritimes team and that adds the nearby cities like Moncton, Dartmouth, and Fredericton, not to mention the provinces of PEI and Newfoundland to their fanbase. Easily it's a large fanbase when you realize they are all so close to each other and the only sport these people really know extremely well is hockey.

[@mattm8108]

Ottawa struggles because they don’t play in downtown

[@EdV-et6qm]

​@@glassestarzan8702 Fredericton is 4.5 hour drive away (436 km) with only 111,000 people. How many of those fan are going to drive 9 hours total in winter weather for a NHL game not 41 times a year ... Moncton is 260 km away or nearly 3 hours one way in winter weather and only has 158,000 people ... Sydney (Cape Breton), NS is 100,000 people and is 4 hours away (400km) ... how many of those will drive 8 hours round trip ... maybe 2 or 3 times not 41 times a year. PLUS the 900 million dollar Canadian expansion fee, PLUS the construction of a 16,000+ capacity NHL size arena PLUS find Billionaire OWNERS that want their team in Halifax plus pay an annual player salaries and staff year after year. SORRY Halifax/Maritimes is spread out to afford NHL. CFL and AHL yes but not NHL. Same for Saskatoon /Regina

[@EdV-et6qm]

@@mattm8108 True the Kanata location sucks and no Federal departments buying tickets hurts as much as in other cities most season tickets are owned by corporations. BTW, other struggling teams like Arizona Coyotes and Florida Panthers suck as well for example the Panther play over 60 km from downtown Miami OR over a hour by car.

[@friggo3869]

If the NHL were to add 8 more teams then this is my list of city’s that should have one: 1. Quebec City 2. Hartford 3. Houston 4. Kansas City 5. Portland 6. Regina 7. Milwaukee 8. Hamilton Honorable mention: 9: Mississauga 10: Kitchener 11: Montpellier (didn’t know they only had 7,000 people)

[@downnice95]

Travel would be a bitch but NHL in Anchorage

[@CreationForeverMinistries]

What about a team in Anchorage?

[@ogreman-lll-957]

2:51 - should be called simply the northwest division 2:56 should be called pacific division 3:08 should be Called central division just like all 3 other big leagues have (nfl had central for 65 years combined) 3:31 should be called south east as 4 of 5 of those teams aren’t even in the Deep South 3:47 Boston and Halifax aren’t french cities so north east would be better.

[@dodovomitory3496]

soulless

[@ogreman-lll-957]

@@dodovomitory3496 please explain

[@AgeCobra]

Nope Canadian teams yes.

[@noahgraves8799]

Save Hamilton for Atlanta

[@paf268]

You had me at Hartford ❤❤❤

[@timtwoface]

@@paf268 long live the Bonanza of Brass

[@The_Card_Squad]

Fun video. I would LOVE to get a team in Salt Lake City.

[@trevormcdermott]

Why hartford? Put a team in Oklahoma City, they have a perfectly good arena that the thunder play in.

[@glassestarzan8702]

Because Hartford has history in hockey, an established fanbase that has been clamoring for a long time and shows that it's a safer move with not too many insane risks. Keep in mind that a city the size of Oklahoma is a risky location as they have to also face the issue of getting a city of basketball fans into hockey as well.

[@videobrosproductions717]

Hartford actually had an nhl team

[@downnice95]

Southern markets suck for Hockey

[@mattmacneil3176]

Except for Tampa they have 3 Stanley cups the most in the south. (2004, 2020, 2021)

[@wrathofkrahn]

I love the guys who make their prediction that somehow markets like Halifax and Saskatoon would actually become part of the league...not ever going to happen, not even if Hell freezes over

[@traviro3329]

Why tf would Florida move if they’re just going to add another 8 teams in expansion. They can easily do it in Quebec City

[@jaylipinski1443]

The only one I don't see happening is Hartford. I know that everyone wants to see a return of the Whale, but the Northeast is saturated and if you bring in an additional team in that tight space, you're only cannibalizing the existing fan base. Boston and the NY/NJ teams wouldn't have it. I know that some might argue, the same could be said for Toronto/Hamilton, but its a totally different situation. Not sure what the solution is, but Hartford ain't it. other than that, I sort of dig it.

[@miked31784]

About Baltimore?

[@jaylipinski1443]

@@miked31784 Even less likely. Baltimore is only 30 miles from DC, and a short distance from Philly as well. Same concept. They're not going to cannibalize an existing fan base because it doesn't 'grow the game'

[@miked31784]

@@jaylipinski1443 Baltimore has both an NFL and MLB team. Why not an NHL team to go along with it?

[@chrissimmons9743]

So starting out, the only thing i don't like about this plan is jumping directly to 40 Teams. While the NHL could probably handle the jump better than the MLB if/when they even get to 32 teams, this isn't the NFL we're talking about. What i would do is split the expansion to 40 teams into 2 phases as follows (This example does not take into account folds, relocations, or division realignments) Phase 1: One new team per division Pacific: Portland Wolves Central: Houston Aeros Metro: Hartford Whalers Atlantic: Quebec Nordiques Phase 2: Same as phase 1, but with new teams (There will be more "_____ or _____" scenarios since i'm not an expert on where the NHL should go) Pacific: Utah Mormons (SLC), or Anchorage Blizzard Central: Kansas City Scouts Metro: Bridgeport, Providence, or (if the population increases fast enough between now and then) Manchester NH Atlantic: Atlanta Thrashers

[@mattm8108]

Atlanta won’t be getting a team again. The had TWO failures

[@chrissimmons9743]

​@@mattm8108 You say that like it'll literally NEVER happen. If there's ever an expansion to 40 teams in the first place it's not gonna happen till sometime in the 2040's unless Hockey popularity in the US explodes out of nowhere, so there's time for the sport to grown nationwide, even if it's at a slow rate. If Hockey in the US starts to get anywhere even remotely close to being as popular as it is in Canada, The South won't be as bad a place for hockey as it is now. Plus, the Thrashers failed because their owner was a piece of shit. If they get real ownership like the Packers, Mavericks, and Bruins, they will succeed.

[@TonysMusic1974]

No Quebec??? C'mon man!

[@timtwoface]

Pretty sure I included Quebec! I would love to see them back.

[@VTHokies1987]

Where in Saskatchewan? Based on the dot it looks like you are thinking Regina. Boo! Really bad choice there. It should be Saskatoon. It is a larger city, already has a well supported WHL team in the Blades and it’s easier to get to travel-wise. There is also the SaskTel Centre already there for the arena, granted it’s pretty small but it could work temporarily while a new arena is built close to the U of S and the picturesque Saskatchewan River. It has to be Saskatoon here.

[@michael-johnbrown2881]

Actually 40 teams sound like a good idea even though it will lower the odds of my favourite hockey teams winning the playoffs. But at least it makes playoffs season last longer and if any of my favourite teams win the cup it will actually mean something since there will be 39 other teams competing for a playoffs spot.

[@michael-johnbrown2881]

Quebec city can become there own team i like Florida Panthers Canadian teams just need better management. And better choice of players instead of picking no talent players get the best players in the hockey world but again i like my American hockey teams. But i agree Canada could use more teams to even out the shift but i don't think the states should give up there teams it's bad enough they lost the Atlanta Thrashers but the way i see it if i want Canadian teams to win the playoffs i would watch OHL hockey.

[@danielmoore8695]

Atlanta CAN support an NHL team, i don't care about what happened to the Flames in the 70's that was 50 years ago and not relevant. They put the Thrashers stadium in the wrong part of town(the Braves were in downtown ATL and they left for a reason) and the team was TERRIBLE yet the attendance was not that bad at all. If they put the team in either Gwinnett or Cobb County out in the burbs and the team was atleast decent then they could draw. Atlanta CAN support an NHL team and i will die on this hill

[@KingOfEmptyPromises]

I don't care how it happens or when. I just want the Flyers gone. They should be forced to cease operations. I'd rather see a team in the middle of Montana or Idaho than have the Flyers exist.

[@jaycob1830]

I’m sorry, but Hartford isn’t happening, too small of a market

[@soldadoDELmiedo5220]

When the wnba & nwsl expansion videos? Plz 🙏

[@dylansides6513]

At Saskatchewan and Halifax I was done. Not to mention Hartford. Get bent---those three aren't going to happen. I was fine with moving Arizona to Houston and Florida to Quebec City, but the 8 that would get to 40? Portland, Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, Milwaukee, Kansas City, San Diego, San Antonio and Memphis.

[@glassestarzan8702]

You may be right about Halifax but Saskatchewan? Birthplace of Gordie Howe and numerous other legends? A province with an arena, petitions for a team, and a middle class population that in the 60s when the Blues almost moved there, had thousands of contracts signed to buy season tickets? Are you joking? A province of over a million people that can easily be driven entirely through in 2-3 hours where hockey is a beloved sport can easilly survive. High population is worthless if there is no interest. Arizona has taught everyone that.

[@joeg8200]

And as for Hartford. They almost got the new team that went to Vegas. The NHL wants to return the whalers there as well as the Nordiques to Quebec, I believe they just wanna build up the west first. As you can tell from the map the east has a strong presence.

[@glassestarzan8702]

@@joeg8200 Saskatchewan is the perfect place to build the west I my opinion.

[@joeg8200]

@@glassestarzan8702 not gonna deny that. When my team was in trouble with possibility of moving. That was one of the places. I can see Saskatchewan getting the next expansion team. Only reason Vegas and Seattle got first was the money was there with owners. Vegas overall is about to be a sports mecca with them getting NFL. Also building a pro baseball stadium and basketball arena already.

[@glassestarzan8702]

@@joeg8200 I'm a huge fan of basketball and after the disaster that was the NBA All-Star weekend in Vegas, it is still gonna be hard for Vegas to enter the NBA, especially in the West with markets like Seattle and Vancouver both being cities Adam Silver has stated he wants to league to return to.

[@joeg3741]

Shouldn't the wild be in great lakes division under your pla

[@Kalastajahml]

Putin Novitšoks for Moscow is next expansion team.

[@fiver-on-yt0642]

@timtwoface Alaska won’t work, not enough wealth

[@moose7454]

Great work but what the fuck you can’t just move the Panthers

[@jedimasterdaniel9666]

Houston needs an NHL team

[@trevormcdermott]

Nah OKC

[@martinberthiaume5751]

I agree, bring back the Aeros from WHA, good history behind with the Howe's

[@joshuaellis4947]

Winnipeg is not a expansion team Atlanta relocated to Winnipeg

[@SupporterFBK89]

NHL 1 Tampa Bay 2 Boston 3 Calgary 4 Vegas 5 San Jose 6 Anaheim 7 Arizona 8 Florida 9 St Louis 10 Columbus 11 Seattle 12 New Jersey 13 Los Angeles 14 Toronto 15 Nashville 16 Buffalo 17 Montreal 18 Vancouver 19 Edmonton 20 Chicago 21 Dallas 22 Philadelphia 23 Washington 24 Pittsburgh 25 Ottawa 26 Minnesota 27 New York #1 28 Detroit 29 New York #2 30 Carolina 31 Winnipeg 32 Colorado 33 Montreal #2 34 Toronto #2 35 Portland 36 St John 37 St Paul 38 San Francisco 39 Denver 40 Austin 41 Houston 42 Atlanta 43 Phoenix 44 Indianapolis 45 Baltimore 46 Jacksonville 47 New Orleans 48 Oklahoma City 49 San Antonio 50 San Diego 51 Charlotte 52 Raleigh 53 Miami 54 Memphis 55 Tucson 56 Madison 57 Kansas City 58 Salt Lake City 59 Albuquerque 60 Milwaukee 61 Sacramento 62 El Paso 63 Fort Worth 64 Boise 65 Louisville 66 Cleveland 67 Omaha 68 Fresno 69 Baton Rouge 70 Honolulu 71 Cincinnati 72 Minneapolis 73 Victoria 74 Hamilton 75 Quebec 76 Regina 77 Saskatoon 78 London 79 Mississauga 80 Brampton 81 Kingston 82 Kitchener 83 Thunder Bay 84 Moncton 85 Greater Sudbury 86 Windsor 87 St Catharines 88 Fredericton 89 Kelowna 90 Halifax County 91 Kamloops 92 Prince George 93 Niagara falls 94 North Bay 95 Gatineau 96 Peterborough 97 Darnia 98 Lethbridge 99 Barrie 100 Guelph 101 Red Deer 102 Whitehorse 103 Charlottetown 104 Brantford 105 Sault Ste Marie 106 Medicine Hat 107 Nanaimo 108 Grande Prairie 109 Welland Ontario 110 Belleville 111 Chilliwack 112 Oakville 133 Trois-Rivieres 134 Vancouver #2 135 Los Angeles #2 136 Chicago #2 137 Hartford 138 Phoenix

[@GoalHornGeek]

Why did you put Carolina on there and then also put Charlotte and Raleigh? The hurricanes play in Raleigh....

[@sohailkarimullah4735]

I Geuss Back in 2018 The Warriors and Kings Returned To Seattle just before The Key Arena's Closure, but two years later The NHL Arrived And Created The Kraken

[@travisreed1730]

What if Louisiana got a team?

[@timtwoface]

Maybe one day, but there are so many other options first...I'd love to see NOLA take a crack at Baseball, though!

[@travisreed1730]

@@timtwoface the team names could be cool. Like Baton Rouge Barons, or New Orleans Creoles or New Orleans Voodoo or something.

[@HawklordLI]

New Jersey was not an expansion team in 1982, they were the KC Scouts from 1974-76 then the Colorado Rockies from 1976-82. Geez...do some research.

[@timtwoface]

Yes of course, but when did I ever say they expanded in 1982? I simply put the date they arrived in their current location. I didn't feel the need to give a full NHL history lesson in this one. This is what I typically do in all my videos to keep things straightforward. Thank you for watching!

[@gmbirb5319]

Would you please do MLS expansion :)

[@jarrettgordon837]

Phoenix has a population of 1.6 Million people. Yes I get that Halifax is a “small market” but with a population of 450K, how hard is it to put 18,000 people in the stands in Canada. Exception to Ottawa, their arena is no where near the downtown core

[@timtwoface]

Besides having a very cheap owner, the Senators' biggest problem is their arena location. The other 6 Canadian teams' home arenas are right downtown, but Ottawa basically plays in Sudbury. After 30 years they may finally have a fanbase and not just a city of half Hab and half Leaf fans, but with an arena in the boonies, even worse than Phoenix' situation, it's not helping. Frankly I think both Hamilton and Quebec City would be better markets than Ottawa, anyway. But I want Ottawa to work, too.

[@GypzyKing]

Saskatchewan lol yea right

[@mamoruchiba3301]

What about New Orleans?

[@martinberthiaume5751]

I don't think Saskatchewan and Halifax are big enough markets to support an NHL team. I do agree that the Florida Panthers (or the Carolina Hurricanes) should move to Quebec City in brand new Videotron Center with a large fan base. Arizona to Houston and bring back the Aeros from the old WHA, absolutely. I agree with a franchise in Milwaukee and why not bring back the Cleveland Barons, would make a good rival to Columbus. I am very happy that Seattle will get a team back (Stanley Cup champ in 1917) the Metropolitans.

[@GoalHornGeek]

At this point, only Florida and Arizona have a chance to move

[@johnnyarana1876]

Hopefully in 10 years they will add 8 more hoping Anchorage AK ,Milwaukee WI ,Oakland CA ,Kansas city ,Toronto ON, Quebec City QC, Hartford CT and Atlanta GA even though they lost a team two times 😂 most likely coyotes will relocate to Houston TX im hoping they are 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bx8ball]

Lego Yoda not really the problem with Alaska is the population you will never earn enough even for a minor league team

[@FunWithMemesFunWithMemes]

Oakland doesn't need a team

[@foxjumper7532]

Personnellement je crois pas que halifax et Saskatchewan peuvent avoir une équipe pareille pas la moitié des villes des États-Unis que tu as choisis...

[@foxjumper7532]

Go quebec go!!!

[@martinberthiaume5751]

Exactement, des marchés trop petit, selon moi, 3 équipes en danger pourrait potentiellement déménager à Québec (Ottawa, Caroline, Floride)

[@penguinsfan251]

Stupidity. Portland is not a big enough metro area to support both the NBA and the NHL. Neither is Milwaukee. The Panthers are not moving to Quebec. Fort Lauderdale is going to build a new downtown arena. There is not one city in Saskatchewan with the population size and corporate presence to support an NHL team. Same with Halifax. Hartford is too small . Hamilton isn't happening. All the Coyotes need is a downtown arena. So does Ottawa. The four cities that should get a team: Houston Kansas City Atlanta (yeah, you didn't count on Turner Sports to pay big bucks for the NHL, did you) One other Eastern time zone city.....Jeremy Jacobs owns the Bruins, has massive clout with other NHL owners and does not want Quebec.

[@timtwoface]

Well that's one man's opinion. I agree with you on Houston and Kansas City but if you really think Atlanta is getting a third chance at a team any time soon, you're dreaming. Portland very much can support a team. In fact, the NHL was looking at them at the same time as Seattle, as a back-up plan in the Pacific Northwest. At a population of 2.5 million, that's similar to Vancouver and Pittsburgh, and Oregon has deep hockey history. And they already have the arena, too. So I would consider Portland, especially, very possible in the future. You're likely right about Hartford, Halifax, and Saskatchewan, though if the right owner comes in for those two Canadian locations, it's still possible...of course, Winnipeg and Quebec City would be the smallest NHL markets and they're twice as big as Halifax and 3x as big as Regina or Saskatoon, but...Canada? Also I'm not suggesting Hamilton specifically would get a team but a second team in the Toronto area definitely would be possible. Corporate money and population in a hockey-mad market, it would work. If New York City can have 3 and Los Angeles can have 2, Toronto definitely could have 2. Heck, Montreal could even support a second one, probably.

[@EdV-et6qm]

Portland, Oregon has 3.4 million people in the greater Metropolitan area ... has decades of minor league hockey for example Portland Winterhawks. The average household income is very high at $71,500 .. would have immediate rivals with San Jose, Seattle and Vancouver and has an NHL size arena (MODA arena - capacity 18,200) already and an owner that has made multiple inquires on acquiring an NHL team. Bigger than Kansas, richer than Kansas, has a deeper hockey fandom than Kansas and an Billionaire owner already kicking the tires. Kansas has ZERO billionaire interested at this moment.

[@iansampson3076]

Here are my predictions as to which cities would get the next eight nhl teams to bring league membership to 40 Houston Quebec City San Diego Portland, OR Orlando Chicago Kansas City Baltimore Since it's possible that Vegas will end its working agreement with the Chiago Wolves, I see the Wolves playing in the NHL in an upgraded Allstate Arena in the future.

[@nhlcommish8085]

I see fastest growing city in America Austin Texas with San Antonio just 80 miles away ahead of Orlando or Baltimore and even hockey central Milwaukee with a new arena a head of the them. Salt Lake City with huge rich suburbs in a winter Olympic city as another possibility.

[@Fibr3Optix]

Sask will never have a team. Montana and Wyoming dont have sports teams for the same reason.

[@timtwoface]

Yes but the two metro areas in Saskatchewan are bigger than any other in the mountains/prairies region of the United States and Canada (north of Denver) that don't already have an NHL team. It would be very tight, but possible with enough corporate support. How does Green Bay manage?

[@DabBat]

Make the Kansas City one Kansas City, Kansas

[@michealjacksonsinnocent2488]

No Omaha team?

[@EdV-et6qm]

TO anyone who thinks Halifax or Saskatoon can support an NHL team ... argument against Halifax. Halifax only has a population of 450,000. Yes they love NHL hockey but those that say all of the Maritimes will support them ... think about how much can the rest of the maritimes help. FOR EXAMPLE: Fredericton is 4.5 hour drive away (436 km) with only 111,000 people. How many of those fan are going to drive 9 hours total in winter weather for a NHL game not 41 times a year ... Moncton is 260 km away or nearly 3 hours one way in winter weather and only has 158,000 people ... Sydney (Cape Breton), NS is 100,000 people and is 4 hours away (400km) ... how many of those will drive 8 hours round trip ... maybe 2 or 3 times not 41 times a year. PLUS the 900 million dollar Canadian expansion fee, PLUS the construction of a 16,000+ capacity NHL size arena PLUS find Billionaire OWNERS that want their team in Halifax plus pay an annual player salaries and staff year after year. SORRY Halifax the Maritimes are too spread out to afford NHL team. CFL and AHL yes but not NHL. Same argument applies for Saskatoon /Regina (they are 2 hours and 40 minutes apart plus winter weather and even combined they only add up 600,000 people ... not even 3/4 the size of Quebec City.

[@nietniet6684]

Saskatchewan has nearly the same population as Manitoba

[@nietniet6684]

Trust me, if Anaheim can keep a team, a medium sized city full of hockey fanatics can sustain one .

[@EdV-et6qm]

@@nietniet6684 Southern California has 30 million people living within 425km of Anaheim. Fredericton/St Johns and Sydney are within 440km of Halifax but that adds up to only 1.91 million potential fans. Southern has 15 times the population and make on average 33% higher salaries hence 20 times the MARKET SIZE. 20 TIMES Yes the maritimes love their hockey but the NHL is a business that wants to grow their market size ... so new 20X new fans are worth more than existing fans who already watch NHL and buy NHL merchandise already.

[@nietniet6684]

@@EdV-et6qm Bruh, have you seen the stadium of an Anaheim game? It's not pretty.

[@RandomYoutubechannel6388]

Cities that should get an NHL team Quebec City Hartford Salt Lake City Portland San Diego Kansas City Hamilton Houston Milwaukee Saskatchewan Atlanta Baltimore Indianapolis

[@ethang8515]

No offense but most of these cities wouldn't work, Houston shouldn't get AZ they should just get their own team. Quebec City should also get their own team, also Portland is too small of a market. Hartford is also too small of a market. Kansas City would fail, as it already did, and also why would they embrace another team they have the Blues. Why not Give Atlanta another chance. Legit Halifax is the only City on this list that works.

[@EdV-et6qm]

TO anyone who thinks Halifax or Saskatoon can support an NHL team ... argument against Halifax. Halifax only has a population of 450,000. Yes they love NHL hockey but those that say all of the Maritimes will support them ... think about how much can the rest of the maritimes help. FOR EXAMPLE: Fredericton is 4.5 hour drive away (436 km) with only 111,000 people. How many of those fan are going to drive 9 hours total in winter weather for a NHL game not 41 times a year ... Moncton is 260 km away or nearly 3 hours one way in winter weather and only has 158,000 people ... Sydney (Cape Breton), NS is 100,000 people and is 4 hours away (400km) ... how many of those will drive 8 hours round trip ... maybe 2 or 3 times not 41 times a year. PLUS the 900 million dollar Canadian expansion fee, PLUS the construction of a 16,000+ capacity NHL size arena PLUS find Billionaire OWNERS that want their team in Halifax plus pay an annual player salaries and staff year after year. SORRY Halifax the Maritimes are too spread out to afford NHL team. CFL and AHL yes but not NHL. Same argument applies for Saskatoon /Regina (they are 2 hours and 40 minutes apart plus winter weather and even combined they only add up 600,000 people ... not even 3/4 the size of Quebec City.

[@ethang8515]

@@EdV-et6qm True but it's not impossible but most of these are pipe dreams or are too small or failed markets

[@EdV-et6qm]

@@ethang8515 BTW, all of NB, NS and PEI combine for 1.93 million people while the Greater Portland Oregon (Primary statistical area) area is 3.35 million ... it's bigger than Kansas, St' Louis, Vegas, Columbus, Pittsburg, Nashville or Raleigh and it's North enough and has the Portland Winterhawks for the WHL and has among the highest Household income in all of the UNited States at $71,500 USD while the Maritime provinces average $51,000 USD per household.

[@EdV-et6qm]

I would love to see more Canadian cities in the NHL but only Toronto can have a 2nd team and maybe via relocation can Quebec City have a team. I think the Maritimes can have an AHL team, a 10th CFL team and maybe an extra QMJHL team.

[@EdV-et6qm]

NHL expansion fee is presently $900,000,000 Cdn and the only guy that wanted and can afford a team in Quebec City is former Separatist Politician Pierre Karl Peladeau. Former leader of the Parti Quebecois is a STRONG Quebec Nationalist ... which means he wants the Province of Quebec to break away from Canada and become a separate Country. The other 5 (Montreal will be neutral) Canadian owners would become the biggest blockers of giving him an NHL a team and was the BIGGEST reason next to small market that Quebec City got rejected years ago and only gave a team to Vegas and then again ignored Quebec City when giving another team to Seattle.

[@eastport7657]

Nice video but Saskatoon and Halifax are too small to support a NHL team. A NHL-European league seems a good idea.

[@Veliara84]

If your putting a team in Atlantic Canada why Halifax. Yes it's the bigger city, but then you can't draw fans as easily from the other 2 provinces in that area. Moncton is a more central location, which could drawn fans, from Charlottetown, Saint John, Fredericton, Halifax with a commute for most places being less then 3 hours. Halifax is the biggest city in Atlantic Canada but any nhl team in Atlantic Canada would require support from the surrounding areas to be successful and that's more likely if it's placed in a more central location.

[@miked31784]

No I don’t think Hartford deserves a team even though they had one there before. I think Baltimore deserves to have a team. Halifax is not a big enough market for a team either. Going back to Connecticut for a second, I think it would be cool to see Bridgeport get a team. Then, you would have 4 teams in the NYC media market and Bridgeport is the largest city in Connecticut.

[@WhatACoolArrow]

Mexico city? Hockey isn't popular in Mexico but it's also not popular in Arizona lol. And Mexico City has the population to support a team. Also the NFL has laid out a pretty good blueprint of marketing a league in Mexico.

[@NelvanaFan1971]

toronto can't have a 2nd team bcuz of the lightning winning the stancup

[@timtwoface]

I'm not quite sure how you are relating those two things...tell me more?

[@NelvanaFan1971]

Toronto never won the stanley cup since 1967

[@EdV-et6qm]

4th to 6th top candidates with Quebec City as a relocation team. (Milwaukee, Kansas City, Atlanta and San Francisco are 7-10 in no order) 4) Toronto 2nd Team: 6.62 million - Toronto is a vibrant economic city that is hockey crazy and can easily support a second NHL team, but there is no 2nd arena or billionaire owner in sight yet. Scotiabank Arena can be shared with the Maple Leaf’s to start and many rumors of a second arena have been in works for years without any approved plans. Maybe just a matter of time. 5) San Diego: 3.47 million. No NBA team and now no NFL Team and the AHL hockey team leading their league in attendance. The Rich economy, high household income and stable growth rate of 9.4% over the last 7 years - makes San Diego a prime for expansion city but unfortunately no NHL size arena in place but talks have started but no owner is in place. Medium Household Income (2019): $79,673 6) Salt Lake City: 1.29 million (2.76 million within 50 miles) - SLC is a fast-growing city of 12.7% growth, solid, prosperous economy with even faster-growing affluential suburbs of Provo-Orem and Ogden-Clearfield that add 1.33 million more potential fans under 40miles/70km away. Winter city and former host of the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics looks the part. NHL size arena exists in Vivint Smart Home Arena the home of Utah Jazz and minor league hockey. Can SLC support NBA and NHL at the same time? Medium Household Income (2019): $74,865

[@X5FK]

K so by Saskatchewan you are meaning Saskatoon? Because Saskatchewan is a province. That’s like saying Nebraska is gonna get a team and not mentioning which city. I’m curious because I live in Saskatoon

[@glassestarzan8702]

Keep in mind as a province of only about 2 million max your team would likely represent the whole province and not one team.

[@X5FK]

I’m just curious wich city. Saskatchewan has two big cities Regina and Saskatoon so wich one does he think gets the team?

[@X5FK]

Plus Saskatchewan only has 1 million people so as much as I want to see a team here it’s unlikely

[@glassestarzan8702]

@@X5FK I'm from Toronto and believe me it could survive as a provincial team. The market is there, fans, history, etc. The story behind how the Saskatoon Blues almost happened shows how Saskatchewan was ready to prove it could support a team

[@X5FK]

I know all about crazy bill hunter and the blues and believe me I’ve waited my whole life to see it happen

[@albullock4609]

Here is my top 10 NHL expansion picks 1. Quebec City 1st team, 2. Kansas City 2nd team, 3. Portland OR 3rd team, 4. Toronto/Hamilton 4th team, 5. Milwaukee 5th team, 6. New Orleans 6th team, 7 Halifax 7th team, 8. Hartford 8th team, 9. Cleveland 9th team, 10. Houston 10th team. But the NHL should get rid of a team in California are, too many. Then move Arizona's NHL team to a different city.

[@jordanclarke3170]

Saskatchewan is not big enough

[@mikerodrigues2906]

They get 70000 people to rough rider games

[@EdV-et6qm]

@@mikerodrigues2906 Rough Riders average 29,300 for ONLY 9 home games a YEAR at around $65 a ticket. IE Winnipeg Jets tickets are $180 game and that is 41 home games a year. HOW IN HELL CAN Saskatchewan afford today's NHL... $900 million Cdn $ expansion fee, 500+ million to build a 16,000 capacity NHL size arena, afford paying $99 million Cdn per year Salary cap plus all Arena and team employees PLUS find a BILLIONAIRE to pay for it all and want to keep it in Saskatoon or Regina and those cities are a 4 hour round trip apart ... can't expect fans to drive 4 hours in winter weather on weekday night 41 times a year maybe 3-6 times ???????

[@mikerodrigues2906]

@@EdV-et6qm how big is their stadium I could of swore I seen 70000 at a grey cup game . I could be wrong .

[@EdV-et6qm]

@@mikerodrigues2906 I don't doubt that they got 70,000 for THE GREY CUP game and yet average 29,500 for every other game in a 9 home game season BUT how does that prove they can pay $900,000,000 Cdn expansion fee plus 500,000,000 cost to build an NHL arena plus pay 100,000,000 per NHL season on player salaries (all these millions in Canadian dollars) and pay all the employees (scouts, staff, coaches, finance, marketing etc...) going forward indefinitely AND most importantly FIND billionaire owner or owners to pay for it all and want the NHL team to stay in Saskatoon or Regina.

[@glassestarzan8702]

Everyone in the comments is hating but I am loving this lol. Maybe make the team in Halifax a Maritimes team and it could work easily. Saskatchewan proved as a province they could support an NHL team because season tickets literally sold out when they thought the blues were moving there in the 60s. The people there have shown they can support a CFL team, what's stopping them from supporting a Hockey team. It's a province of >1 Million. I'm from Toronto so a Hamilton team is more iffy in my eyes considering numbers of Hockey fans have become slowly less with each generation in the GTA. Still Hamilton's metro population is large and even Toronto suburbs closer to TO like Brampton and Mississauga would probably view Hamilton as a team for the Toronto suburbs and support them, which is a huge fanbase.

[@kyle1195]

I like the way you think 40 teams 8 divisions and you go baseball style northern and southern leagues where teams rarely crossover to play their counterpart.

[@michaelrossi3985]

I don't see the 8 divisions of 5 working out, too many rivalries get broken up. Pittsburgh for example would lose its division rivalries with Philly and Washington, and to a lesser extent Columbus

[@gabemorrison9702]

Your division names are weak, and apparently you have zero interest in keeping a lot of natural rivals in the same division (in your 8 division format)

[@DonnaRocheBodyBy]

Does halifax have enough people to have a team

[@timtwoface]

As a regional team near 2 million people, its borderline possible!

[@EdV-et6qm]

To get 2 million people you estimating they drive 5 hours per trip or 9-10 round trip in Atlantic winter weather 41 times a year. Sorry Halifax and 60km around and then that drops to 650,000 only.

[@nietniet6684]

@@EdV-et6qm They're upgrading the rail system around the maritime area to make way for the container-ship, arctic gateway port in Sydney, fans will definitely be able to sustain it.

[@elperezozo04g]

Thats wired that you said 2 teams aré leaving ITS not true if NHL presedent did that

[@WhatACoolArrow]

Regina and Halifax? What year are you projecting this. Neither city is even close to big enough to support an NHL franchise. Also why Houston and Kansas City? Haven't we learned already to stop trying to force hockey into areas it's not popular. I do agree with: Quebec city Hartford Portland Salt lake city I guess a second Toronto team, if only to watch their fans hop back and forth between bandwagons whenever either team shows a glimmer of hope 😂

[@timtwoface]

If New York can have two, Toronto can definitely support two. Heck even Montreal could. As far as non traditional markets, the NHL has been very successful there, too: San Jose, LA, Vegas, Dallas, Nashville, and Tampa have all been great successes and are most definitely not traditional markets. That's why Houston and Kansas City are always on the radar.

[@MajorBoondoggle]

At this point, with only one FL team, why not just swap TBL into the metro?

[@nhlcommish8085]

Here is my list: Houston (USA 5th largest city and owner already interested) , Quebec City via relocation of an existing team already has NHL size arena waiting for tenant and HOCKEY CRAZY fans. Portland Oregon with hockey already established there, Austin Texas (fastest growing city in the USA with San Antonio just 80 miles away adding to over 5 million potential new fans) San Diego with new arena plans in place and No NBA or NFL and a population of over 3.3 million, Milwaukee located in hockey loving part of America and a new arena and Salt Lake City with huge rich suburbs that double the population of the city to 2.5 million with an NHL size arena and was the home of a Winter Olympics. Kansas City with an empty arena waiting for a tenant and a good size city and former NHL team history. Toronto 2/Hamilton is just big and hockey crazy enough to handle a 2nd NHL city. Toronto-Hamilton metro is over 7 million people.

[@nhlcommish8085]

People suggest Anchorage Alaska or Regina Saskatoon or Halifax Nova Scotia. Halifax is the biggest of the three at just 420,000. How is Any of the three going to afford the 700 million USA expansion fee plus built an 700 million NHL arena plus have over 18,000 fans in attendance for 41 home games year after year at NHL ticket price levels and even break even paying a 70+ million USA salary cap per year. You need 5% of the whole city to attend 41 home games a year after paying 2 billion dollars Canadian for a team and arena plus 100 million in player salaries in a city of 400,000 people. Yes yes Saskatoon fan will drive 3 hours at night through winter blizzards and pay $140/ticket for an NHL game in Regina but really how much can that help. Same for Halifax or Anchorage.

[@uzkhan9803]

New Jersey should move to Indiana

[@thattallguy9053]

Teams that need a NHL team 1. Quebec city 2. Milwaukee 3. Anchorage alaska ( Ik sounds crazy but might work ) 4. Houston

[@LucaC27]

Bro NHL Alaska would be sick.....and hey it can't be worse than the Coyotes

[@brodychilds8447]

Bro you missed the wild 😂😂

[@srikothur2845]

When I saw you move Florida (a top 10 metro area in the US) to a metro area (Quebec City) with half as many people as Broward County, I assumed that South Florida would get one of your 8 expansion teams.

[@PbG-uz1gx]

QC may have a lower population than Miami but I guarantee you they have more hockey fans and do we seriously need 2 teams in Florida??? I mean if you live in Florida chances are your either a Tampa fan or your a retiree and your a fan of whatever team you grew up with

[@krispyboi2519]

I would move Carolina to Virginia Beach/Norfolk, the canes attendance is plummeting and PNC arena isn't that good and just like New Jersey this team would be this states only pro sports rep and would be absorbed by fans, hell, Virginia Beach tried for expansion back in the 90's

[@GoalHornGeek]

Canes attendance actually went up because the team was terrible and it cost $70 to sit in the upper bowl to see a team not perform. Norfolk is just tourists and old people. The metro population of the research triangle region is still 500k more than the metro population of Norfolk and the hurricanes already have an arena and a fanbase in North Carolina that is centralized. Norfolk would be the most stupid idea ever

[@GoalHornGeek]

Raleigh is also faster growing and in a more rich market with more growth in corporate sponsorships

[@xenerith5536]

Why not have a team in New Orleans

[@ObiWannaBrick31]

Columbus in deep south LOL

[@TheProfessionalAmateur91]

ND should get a team. Minnesota should get another, and Wisconsin should get one.

[@bx8ball]

north Dakota would be better as a relocating team but the problem is that it won’t have enough income with the population very low and location

[@TheProfessionalAmateur91]

Sure. But I think Minnesota should get one of California’s teams. Lol There is no reason there shouldn’t be 3-4 teams between the Dakotas, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.

[@Finn8119]

Minnesota could support +1 team maybe and Milwuakee could support a team but no way the Dakotas could. Not enough people. Also no arena. I think the GTA gets a 3rd team before Minnesota gets a second team though.

[@TheProfessionalAmateur91]

Put around Fargo. The northern Minnesotans and Dakota fellas would love it!! But yeah. Never will happen. Maybe they never need fans again. And it’s totally possible

[@bx8ball]

california’s teams bring good revenue a more likely target would be the panthers or Ottawa

[@fatshibaballs]

Take out Arizona and puts in Utah? You are a strange man.

[@glassestarzan8702]

Arizona Coyotes operate at the biggest profit loss of any franchise in the league and have been a constant blunder since those moron commissioners relocated a Canadian team there to begin with. Stop beating a dead horse and move the damn team somewhere the population actually cares for hockey. Higher Population ≠ Better Market.

[@samborgensjr6456]

Hockey logic isn't what we call strange.

[@WhatACoolArrow]

Takes a hockey team from the desert and puts it in a place with mountains and cold winters, where they have hosted the winter olympics and actually care about hockey. Why does that strike you as strange?

[@dominicfiacco]

Don't move them to Houston, move them to OKC. I can't stand Houston because of the Astros 😆

[@Emmmiliy]

Still waiting on that EU expansion video

[@dodovomitory3496]

10 years ago they were saying it's gonna in 10 years lmao

[@deucalion4451]

What do you use to make the maps?

[@timtwoface]

Free basic map templates from Wikipedia!

[@nhlcommish8085]

Hamilton/Toronto 2 and Quebec City are the. ONLY two cities that CAN support an NHL team. A 1 Billion Canadian dollar expansion fee plus a nearly 1 billion more to build a 18,000+ state of the art NHL arena. A city of Halifax with just 420,000 people couldn’t afford it even with the half of the rest of Nova Scotia. Same applies to Saskatoon /Saskatchewan. Instead of Halifax and Saskatoon maybe Rich and fast growing Austin Texas and San Diego. By 2027 Austin will have over 2.7 million people plus San Antonio nearby and San Diego with no NFL or NBA has over 3 million and also have $$$. NHL has mention both cities as cities they are interested in.

[@captainjayhawk658]

Yes!

[@nicca8133]

Just give north Dakota something

[@davidricards5262]

Need more hockey teams in california because it's the golden state 🏄😎💰

[@johnnyarana1876]

Just one more....in Oakland

[@sensarmy]

no

[@johnnyarana1876]

@@sensarmy no your team

[@bx8ball]

johnny arana sports teams hate oakland

[@olianderson1194]

This is clearly a stupid video bud. The Florida Panthers ownership said they want the Panthers to be specifically in the state of Florida (Sunshine State). And why are you disrespecting the Arizona Coyotes exactly?, yeah that's what I thought. The Arizona Coyotes shown that they can keep their team in Glendale, AZ, and so did the Florida Panthers. Also there's some dumb locations in here such as Salt Lake City, Halifax, Anchorage and Hamilton. HAM: Hamilton already failed an NHL team (Hamilton Tigres) and they're not that big of a sports city. They only have one professional sports team (Hamilton Tiger Cats) of the CFL (Canadian Football League). If you put a team there they'd be instantly relocated in 3 to 5 years. ANC: Anchorage isn't a hockey city nor a huge sports town. They love their University Anchorage Seawolves teams (Hockey, Football and Basketball). Another thing is that they'd only have one or two season's in the NHL. HFX: Halifax has CFL, CPL (Canadian Premiere League) and QMJHL hockey (Halifax Mosseheads). They love hockey but it's not going to be a great market. I know people there and they tell me "We don't want an NHL team and we don't need it. SLC: Salt Lake City isn't even a sports town that much. They can barely keep Real Salt Lake (MLS) alive there. And University sports is all they need. I spoke to people who live there, I'm not even lying. And one last thing. I think you should re-do this video because it makes barely any sense at all. Thank you, bye.

[@PopeZyncis]

It is delusional to think that Arizona and Florida are stable franchises, there is almost a universal consensus that these franchises will be first on the chopping block. It’s a shame because I would like to see both markets retain their franchises, but one of them is going to Quebec City in the next five years. Just because the ownership wants to stay, doesn’t mean they will. The Coyotes have bounced around multiple venues in Phoenix and the city is getting tired of them, they are the likely first team that will move. You clearly are a Panthers fan and for your sake I hope you get to keep your team,

[@bebobebo4407]

I think the 7 Canadian teams should form their own league with up to 3 more teams since ice hockey is so big in Canada.