40k Lore, Cataphractii! The Very First Tactical Dreadnought Armour!

[@Brutalyte616]

Cataphractii Tactical Dreadnought Armor: when your human tank is not tank enough, but the situation still does not warrant an actual Dreadnought.

[@redsampler2017]

well centurions fill that gap nicely..(well i think so)

[@redsampler2017]

@@Avarus-Lux truth!!!.. like them both anyways.. got 5 cataphractii terminators and love them.

[@jamiejones7730]

Every situation requires a dread

[@redsampler2017]

@@jamiejones7730 so in a spacehulk its perfectly handy to use a 4 metre high 3,5 metre wide adamantium encased giant to go trough small corridors??

[@jamiejones7730]

@@redsampler2017 absolutely just employ more ordinance to restructure the corridor

[@mr.butter1017]

Imperium: forgets technology invented yesterday. Also imperium: Yo, you 'member those cool horse people about 38,000 years ago.

[@robertnelson9599]

Stories survive better than knowledge.

[@Archon3960]

Cawl: Allow me to come with my brand new innovations. Mechanicus: HERETECK!! *Guilliman scoffing sounds* Mechanicus: Hrm, I mean, let's just see what he cobbled together...

[@LawofImprobability-2]

Methinks someone doing the writing for GW studied Classics.

[@martinjacobsen2992]

To play the devils advocate, much of the early stuff was Made/Refined/Influenced in some way shape or form by the Emperor..He might have decided to call it whatever the heck he felt was the coolest sounding. And he would certainly have known. He was even alive to see the Original Cataphracts.

[@mikkohernborg5291]

The irony of the game Mechanicus having an ad on Arch's video, giving him money via a circumspect route, after snubbing him for the promotion, is not lost on me.

[@fimbul_]

Arch: Rants about over-representation of Power-armor. Also Arch: Makes a video on Power-armor.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Tut tut tut, not power armor... MEGA POWER ARMOR!! (Yes, there is a difference) (I’m being sarcastic, I hope you realize.)

[@ArchYouTube]

tou fucking ché XD

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Arch (humble bow) thank you, mr Arch! And yes we might have a disagreement or two on certain primarchs, and some lore, but you are one of the best around and you have helped me get such a better understanding on the Lore, which in turn has just made my love for this franchise, (all 3 aspects in truth) grow more. So, thank you for the videos, and jokes about the chances of “a snow ball shoved up Satans ass”!! 🤣🤣

[@Thomas-fz9xw]

I'm just glad he got this out of the way, since we all know Cawl's "Primaris Super Cataphractii+" armor will arrive in a month or so.

[@myownmusic8182]

He's gotta milk that power-armoured teat, dude. Makin' dat monay

[@honestkyn718]

Terminator armor is my favorite kind. there's just something about these bulky monsters, the elite of the elite, being a slow an inevitable death...

[@Mario-kf3ej]

And none look more badass than Deathshroud cataphractii scythe wielding silent killers.

[@MizantropMan]

Siege Tyrant formation of the Iron Warriors Legion is a great example of that. They carried Cyclone rocket pods on their backs and were designed for breaking sieges. Imagine a group of the them, walking toward the enemy line, slow, but purposeful. A bunker? One rocket and it's down. A pillbox? No more damage than hail. Infantry countercharge? Not even a stepping stone. Flamers? Grenades? Razor wire, mud to the knees, permacreate trenches? All for naught. Stop one with a lucky shot, maybe a demi-squad through concentrated fire, so what? Dozens of them are coming form multiple points, raining precise misslie fire on your lines. And they are coming for you, step after step.

[@TheGreatThicc]

Until we remember that, somehow, Genestealers can stab through Terminator plate.

[@MizantropMan]

@@TheGreatThicc So can power weapons. That's why personal distortion fields are a thing. In a world of monomolecular blades, thickness of physical armour can only get you so far.

[@nervmeister]

Mario The Red Wake: “Am I but a jest to you?”

[@LordNithilus]

Reddit loons: We told you to leave 40k dammit! Arch and da boyz: You 'ave no powah over us ya puny gitz.

[@jackdaalfbrainork6392]

Nith all ‘ail warboss arch wazmakker

[@NetMoverSitan]

Letz krump 'em! Da boss 'as a pointy stik dat's missin' some headz.

[@MizantropMan]

Reddit always thinks that they are better than everyone else. There is as much trash on Reeeeeeddit as on Fakebook, Twatter and the like.

[@shotguncleric]

lol @ reddit thinking they run anything

[@NetMoverSitan]

@@shotguncleric So they can't run their own lives, yet believe that they can run the lives of others?

[@MizantropMan]

Fulgrim: "Ha! We're dug in and reinforced, nothing can break our lines!" Ferrus Manus and a THOUSAND of his most elite Terminators: "CHARGE!!!" Fulgrim: "... You know that I still have plot armour, right?" Ferrus Manus: "I know and I don't care!" They all died that day, yet it was glorious.

[@JohnWhiteHere]

Yes the Phoenecian killed his stubborn, silly, little loyalist brother quickly and elegantly. It was glorious indeed

[@matics453]

*YOUUUU ARE WE WEAKKKKKK...* -Ghost face of Ferrus Manus

[@HTWW]

@@matics453 Thank you, Brother. I know.

[@MizantropMan]

@@lostalone9320 Well, yes, they can be replaced, but in how long? Those lost at Istvaan were full forces of two Legions and the most elite elements of yet another, warriors and outstanding heroes accumulated over two centuries of fighting. When you witness the shattering of a beautiful crystal, you mourn it's loss, not brush it aside because "it is going to regrow eventually".

[@93Avenger93]

And then DoW 3 showed us these suits can make you jump several times your height into the air and do snazzy hammer flips with it! Truly “long lost technology”.

[@Slith3rdLegion]

Nah, that's just the Blood Ravens looting from the Aeldari, Druhkari, and possibly the Orks and allowing hilarity to ensue in their deep pockets full of Xenos and heretical shit. The result? Chapter master go *WEEEEEEEEE*

[@cryptosporidium1375]

Deluded Dimdoul gravy boos elp wit dere yumping ya git!

[@naomy1701]

@@Slith3rdLegion lol funny idea, but as far as most ppl are concerned, DoW3 isnt canon in any way, shape or form >_< and i agree. such an abomination shall be prevail under the emperors gaze! burn it with holy fire!!!

[@LethargicGM]

Something that has always bugged me about terminator armor, as described in novels, is that they are called virtually indestructible only to be torn through like paper not even two paragraphs later. Yeah, I get that they want to show how crazy dangerous some xenos and chaos slaves are. But if you have the termies get smashed only to have the more lightly armored guys save the day then why bother using them at all? It gets even better when the guys with no armor survive the same things the termie got killed by.

[@adrenjones9301]

Its the Worf effect, the best fighter being pummeled to show how much of a threat is being handled... by the actual heroes.

[@viorp5267]

Bad writing is bad.

[@JennyGormanRitter]

@@adrenjones9301 *misses a wide open shot to progress the plot*

[@VallornDeathblade]

It happens in Ciaphas Cain a couple of times, but that's usually against something like Genestealers who are quite well known as effective can-openers. The point of it in that case is usually to emphasize how absurdly lucky our Hero of the Imperium is when he survives situations like this.

[@jagerdergroe8604]

@@VallornDeathblade it only emphasises that the plot armor of the hero is even thicker than terminator armor.

[@kindatzeentchy5152]

Arch in 2016 (paraphrasing): "This was my lore video about tactical dreadnought armor, atleast in general. We will be getting into some more special variants, like the early horus heresy patterns, in a later video." Well, can't say the man doesn't deliver. The wait was worth it.

[@myownmusic8182]

He just forgot to mention it would be much, MUCH later, lol

[@18947ful]

@@myownmusic8182 later is like soon .... it is a bendable term. Ranges from "in a few seconds" to "Trust me, for the xth Time, I will do it later!"

[@17ryuzaki]

AdMech develops a new suit of armor and proceeds to try and make it the standard across the Legions because... AdMech, I guess.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

Ya because War of Mobility am I right?

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

Back then they were not the Adeptus Mechanicus. They were the Mechanicum. The AdMech were founded near the end of the HH by the Mechanicum loyalists.

[@lamb_link]

Γιάννης Νικολάου this man knows his cog boy history!

[@openaardvark419]

Also, because they failed to realize that you can’t have a single answer for every problem.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

@@openaardvark419 Konig Tigers do not a war win💪

[@Balevolt]

Cataphratii terminator armor also known as the best terminator armor

[@Balevolt]

Also ads on a Thursday?

[@Mario-kf3ej]

@Only Death still many times after deep strike it doesnt matter since you have to make charge using same rolls, also doesnt matter if you decide to be delivered via transport. And 4+ invu is no joke.

[@JulesFaraday22]

Cataphractii armor was the first mass produced best Tartaros armor is still King. It has the balanced speed of the Indomitus and a chunk of the defense seen in the C armor.

[@ej.crusing6130]

Best in filthy green

[@mechafanboy]

Hmm wouldnt "the best" terminator armor be the Tartaros pattern Terminator suit? It has all the protection of the indomitus pattern (although less than the Catapractii) with no movement penalty. It's like moving around in normal power armor with terminator plate protection without disadvantages.

[@MizantropMan]

Siege Tyrant formation of the Iron Warriors Legion is a great example of how terrifying Cataphractii Tactical Dreadnough Armour could truly be. They carried Cyclone rocket pods on their backs and were designed for breaking sieges. Imagine a group of the them, walking toward the enemy line, slow, but purposeful. A bunker? One rocket and it's down. A pillbox? No more damage than hail. Infantry countercharge? Not even a stepping stone. Flamers? Grenades? Razor wire, mud to the knees, permacreate trenches? All for naught. Stop one with a lucky shot, maybe a demi-squad through concentrated fire, so what? Dozens of them are coming form multiple points, raining precise misslie fire on your lines. And they are coming for you, step by step.

[@georgestauber2636]

The guards Manticore says "hi".

[@Blade40688]

And that is all before you add in the support from their non termi clad brothers in both infantry and artillery. Oh and I guess the solar auxilla count too, cheaper to have a regular guy eat a round than to fill in the bits of paint that might get chipped off

[@shootinbruin3614]

Seeing these suits lumber by the woman holding her baby was the highlight for me in Death of Hope

[@khatyure]

That and those Saturnine Terminators, hot stuff!

[@ConfusedGuardsman]

For me it was the guardsman who combat rolled between the two marines.

[@cthulhuthegreatoldone7045]

That video gave me fetish for Cataphractii

[@Deamon93IT]

Reminds me of "an elegant weapon for a more civilized age", because everyone old enough to recall how the Imperium was at the time of its adoption would agree (probably even the traitors, at least the ones who have a semblance of sense of self)

[@Nurriek]

I feel like Arch was trying to sell me a suit of Tactical Dreadnought Armour. 😂

[@VallornDeathblade]

Used Tactical Dreadnought armour. 1 previous occupant. Ignore the stains, they'll buff right out.

[@Hellsong89]

​@@VallornDeathblade Couple minor lascannon holes on abdomen area, perfect job for any DIY admech adept. Machine spirit attitude unknown, caution advised when using personal shield generators. Note: company is not liable any explosions happening for lack of prayers to Omnisiah

[@robertnelson9599]

I would recommend upgrading to the Aquilon or Allarus pattern, totally worth the price.

[@yeoldchief7711]

All you need is flack armour and faith in the Emperor to best any of mankind's enemies 😉

[@samchaleau]

Just saw the guy who’ve making Eisenhorn for TV compare 40k with Star Trek. Prepare for wokehammer: Intersector Eisenhorn. It’s gonna be bad

[@kangkong6795]

Disappointing but not unexpected

[@shank9167]

If they fuck up one of the best novel series I will be so sad. They might as well just not do it

[@MrFallenone]

Well how else do you explain 40k to normies ? They have no idea what grimdark is.

[@samchaleau]

@@MrFallenone It's pretty simple... and GW have covered this multiple times in the past: "In the grim darkness of the 41st Millennium, there is only war." Then continue with something like: "The Immortal Emperor sits within a golden throne on the Imperial homeworld of Terra, betrayed by his favoured son Horus he lingers on the border of life and death. Ruling through his proxies, his life essence supports the Astronomican, the psychic light that guides ships through the immaterium beyond reality. The Warp. Beset on all sides by countless hordes of aliens, heretics and daemons, the uncounted Trillions that make up the galaxy spanning Imperium of Man pray to the Emperor for Protection and Deliverance. Resolute, The Emperor Protects with mighty armies of Space Marine, Imperial Guardsman and Naval Forces that patrol the void. Ever vigilant, they stand against the enemies of Mankind. He Delivers Salvation to the masses through His Ecclesiarchy and The Mechanicus, a bureaucracy of religion, priests and spiritual power. Fanatically devoted, they stand ever vigilant against the Mutant and Heretic. He watches over his people through his Adeptus Arbites and Planetary Defence Forces. Imperial police and soldiery, mere men and women tasked with quelling constant surges of insurrection, heresy and criminality. Yet the most feared of his servants fulfill a more secretive role, one entrusted to a select and powerful few, they seek out the most dangerous enemy. The Truth. They are: The Inquisition." *Powerful outro music* There you go. Shove that into a trailer showing scenes from the show and you have access to an audience larger than the "warhammer" crowd without giving them a false expectation that it's "Star Trek". Alternately you can go with some mel brooks. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIawnJZ4mNl4bcU

[@adrenjones9301]

Meh, in the end, Plotarmor is the only one that counts.

[@baronofcinnamontoast3260]

Comes stock with Ultramarine insignia.

[@norbertdrage]

So sad, as true as it is. I’ll forgive GW if Cato Sicarius loses his plotarmour tho~ 🙃

[@tron-do7ii]

does your wardian Power armor protect you?

[@annelisemeier283]

Norbert Drage I CAST FIST

[@mattward4916]

tron 1112 it does

[@TheQuakeIV]

this video is a good balance, i like longer videos, but some feel like they are stretching a small amount of content too far, this is a nice dense piece of lore

[@thil2894]

funny when talking about terminator armor don't you think?

[@Morec0]

I disagree, but after last weeks tribute I cannot deny he deserved a break.

[@torcheddreadnought899]

Im just happy that arch doesn't repeat the same thing half a dozen different times in a single video.

[@strafe155]

This was unexpected, but not unwanted

[@youngthinker1]

I guess Kaldor Draigo looked at it and thought, needs more metal. Thus his Nemesis Dreadknight

[@timhurl1514]

youngthinker1 Kaldor Draigo*

[@youngthinker1]

@@timhurl1514 Thanks, I'm a might bit touched in the head

[@nemamiah7832]

Considering it's Draigo we're talking about, he prolly though something loike "NOODLES! THEY ARE WRIGGLING INFINITELY!" I mean, it is Draigo.

[@darkinnovator2479]

Didn't our dear Sons of Horus First Captain, wear a personally made and customised suite of Cataphractii, and what were the reasons behind that? Increased height?

[@phaedrosx]

Abaddon was pretty big for an Astartes, think he was of similar height to Horus but smaller.

[@MizantropMan]

Yes, he was too big for the mass-produced ones (if something so hard to manufacture can be called that), so it had to be made on-demand just for him.

[@darkinnovator2479]

@@phaedrosx Lol, Proto-Primarch Abaddon, huh?

[@222oree]

@@darkinnovator2479 More like warhammer deus ex machina Abaddon....

[@darkinnovator2479]

@@222oree Game's Workshop highlighting ever more the impotent importance of Failbaddon, huh?

[@helldrake77777]

First mass produced, but the Saturnine is both the FIRST to be and cooler looking.

[@bumblingbureaucrat6110]

The Saturnine Armor is fricking ugly. Looks like Humpty Dumpty.

[@helldrake77777]

@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 Hey, it's fine. This is not the Imperium. You are allowed to be categorically wrong. :)

[@bumblingbureaucrat6110]

@@helldrake77777 This is true, you are also allowed to like Humpty Dumpty Armor.

[@shanelord6036]

@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 I don't know I think saturnine terminator armor looks pretty slick especially with its interpretation in the death of Hope animation

[@alphariusomegon6711]

@@shanelord6036 Hot damn, that animation was slick and that big chunky boi was probably the most amazing hunk of angry Space Marine I've ever seen. Talk about a mountain of ceramite and adamantium. Makes me want GW to do a sculpt for them so I can have a walking bunker of them strolling around the midfield lighting up anything within like 20 inches.

[@MandoMTL]

M24 Asteroid Miner to M41 Astartes: " Nice suit mods bro, did your grandma paint them".

[@MADhorseKD]

Despite people flinging their shit your way, im glad to see you still pumping out these vids, dude :p I recently bought some 30K Mk3 templar brethren (imperial fists) to serve as some Black Templar chapter veterans/sword brethren (or whatever its called now, i havnt played since they had their own codex released). Just to have some MK3 relics in my army. Now im thinking of getting some cataphractii :p If only G-dubs would bite the bullet already and clear up that 'you will not be missed' crap Fuck it, i might just print them

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

I definitely have

[@raisttlyn]

All I can think of is that DoH scene. "Your fight is with me traitor"

[@Kharneth_Korn]

A heavy, unwieldy and bulky armor? TIME TO DO SOME SICK FLIPS! -Gabriel Angelos in his last moments before his fall to insanity

[@Doc_The_Outlaw_XIV]

Whenever i think of a Terminator and one of my friends asks me what does a Terminator usually weigh, in which I say "think of it like a Dude who weighs the size of a small car, inside of armor that protects him like a tank woukd it's crew

[@naomy1701]

a bit over the top id say, but if u downscale it by prob 1:5 then i guess the comparison should be understandable for someone that doesnt know 40k, even tho its a bit inaccurate still lol

[@Doc_The_Outlaw_XIV]

@@naomy1701 true, I just try to put it out simple

[@muninrob]

Small cars barely break a ton - that's a standard space marine's power armor. Your talking a large personal truck / small commercial truck for terminators. (Terminators also have more volume than a lot of small cars).

[@Thomas-fz9xw]

@@muninrob Eh, that's the confusing bit. You'd think they would weigh a ton, but most lore sources have even terminator armor weighing around .75 tons. Could just be that ceramite and plasteel are very light.

[@MrFallenone]

We dont know the weight of the materials used for the construction since they are fantasy crap so it can be whatever from 0,5 to 15 tons.

[@jameslyddall]

Arch thank you for your awesome awesome content. Came across your channel over the COVID lockdown and been going through your earlier videos. I adore your style, and presentation. My favourite one is the war for Armageddon and planetary defence. Would love some videos on the imperial ships if you ever get a chance, that’s one thing on lore videos I’ve noticed isn’t covered. Thanks again for the great content I thoroughly enjoyed your uploads.

[@krenick9900]

Terminator: "I CAST FIST!"

[@phaedrosx]

I'm pretty sure the Saturnine pattern was the first tactical dreadnought armor, not Cataphractii.

[@bumblingbureaucrat6110]

This is the first Mass Produced version though

[@trajanthegreat2928]

I think Cataphractii was the Mark III of terminator armour, with 2 older patterns. The oldest one fans have seen dubbed Saturnine.

[@stephenflint3640]

Cataphractii was likely the first "original" design implemented for mass production and use. Before hand, it was basically modified construction, engineering, and mining exo suits, with weapons platforms bolted on

[@dominusbalial835]

@Iron Hands Terminator I actually quite like It, some of the updated fan art of it looks cool. So do the suits in death of hope part one

[@Thomas-fz9xw]

@@dominusbalial835 The fan art actually makes it look pretty good compared to the original MK 1 models. I would love for some bright spark to make some printer files for it eventually.

[@18947ful]

"will fight its wars until the End of Days" The sad and also kinda awesome truth about the Imperium, its technology and the Galaxy in 40k. And that is something I love about 40k :)

[@kurtmorales7644]

I gotta remind myself that 30K Mechanicus was more open-minded rather than stagnant Toaster fuckers when Arch said that they experimented to develop terminator armor.

[@ornu01]

Oh, got a Mechanicus ad for this video. I wonder if Arch still hates them?

[@RioasPlays]

I LOVE learning more about the history of my favorite armor, thanks for this treat today Arch :D

[@Jaghatai_Kahn]

The litany of activation for a power fist is as followed: I CAST FIST!

[@trintovai8275]

I have no memory of this video existing, yet youtube said I watched it.

[@johnprice.2727]

Always loved terminator armor, hope to see more : )

[@commanderfarsight2351]

Gabriel Angelos: *DO A FLIP!*

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

It’s about time Arch!!! Time to discuss the armor of the time of Horus Heresy and the armor of choice for Failbadon the Armless.

[@ieatiron]

So many fucking mobile game commercials.... Holy shit, I think I got one for every minute of this video!

[@phsycotater3608]

man, I've been watching for like two weeks and I really enjoy this channel. I just got into Warhammer, and it's nice to see cool people in the community. As well as you standing up for keeping politics out of the hobby.

[@natalassblaster]

This is the best armor! I love the roman style look and how heavy it is

[@robertnelson9599]

Never thought Arch would continue The Terminator armor series.

[@94razors_40]

My day just got better!!!!! Thanks for the awesome lore Arch!

[@Lennert_hd]

Aaaah more lore. Never stop making those Arch, we love them!

[@justins7683]

What if scenario guardman regiment find a derelict fellblade tank would they be allowed to secure and possibly use it or shot just for even thinking they could attain such archeo tech

[@weston8963]

Your videos are such a good break from what is going on in the world. 40k is a break from 2020. What a world we live in. :) Keep up the good work.

[@tylerlawrence1997]

Cataphractii is my favorite pattern of armor. It looks awesome, sounds awesome, and has one thing the more well known dreadnought armor pattern doesn't. Tassets.

[@samnelson9038]

My thoughts exactly

[@paul-antonywhatshisface3954]

Say it with me arch vare (like hair)-- ee (like we)--unt(like hunt). Vare-ee-unt. Variant. Good lad.

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

Unt? It's more of an ent than an Unt

[@paul-antonywhatshisface3954]

@@justiceforjoggers2897 depends on the region of England I suppose. Bit southern fairies never gat anything right. Lol

[@chrisbingley]

It stems from the verb 'vary'. So it's pronounced vary-ant, you filthy colonial.

[@paul-antonywhatshisface3954]

And nah I'd deffo say more unt than ant

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

@@chrisbingley Filthy colonials say it correctly, silence Limey

[@ValosarX]

Literally was just looking up Terminator lore last night. This can't have been better timed.

[@Matt-md5yt]

they are pretty cool looking glad you covered these old school armor.

[@dcbluenose1873]

Thanks for the Friday treat, Warhammer Jesus!

[@007wmd7]

Perfect timing just finished doing some hard work, Now I have something to listen to while I grind steal.

[@Noxims47314]

my absolute favorite armor, no fancy gravis or indomitus nonsense here.

[@KeacePeeper]

So we now have 2 Videos on Terminator armor bzw none about the baseline Powerarmor?

[@agakrayna]

Yes man, short, informative and fun. This is the way to make these vids MAN. Nobody got time to watch 2 hours long vids

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

3:11 It could be just he historian in me but I love most of the 30k era armors. The armor studs the more Additional armor plates the gritty and rugged designs compared to their more streamlined counter parts of 40k plus the whole Roman legionary aesthetics with those leather straps on their shoulders and wastes just looks more appealing to me.

[@angry_zergling]

Yay more fresh lore from Archi Boi! Thank you Arch.

[@alphariusomegon6711]

Now we mustn't forget the biggest pauldrons. . .erm, I mean variant of Terminator armour, Saturnine pattern suits. Heck, even reading through the beginning of Horus Rising, the suits of Terminator armour draw an appearance similar to Saturnine plate, since it is described as having a massive suite of weaponry, including man portable heavy weapons mounted atop their massive frames, in addition to their massive plate of adamantium and ceramite protecting the squishy Space Marine inside them. Plus, the pauldrons on those guys are absolutely mad. I want for GW to actually make a proper sculpt of them so that we can finally have ultra pauldron squads, I mean. . .uber Terminators lumbering across the battlefield, laying down withering hails of fire, and then crushing some poor, bonehead Tau into paste. And of course, obligatory inferiority to whatever the Primaris version of them is, because that is how it works.

[@RevanR]

Out of all Terminator armor, Cataphractii is the one that have special place in my heart

[@RayLettner]

Been waiting for a new Terminator video for so long!!!! AWESOME!!!!

[@sk00b72]

I have a recomendation. You sir have a talent to explain in grewsome detail the roles and equipment of the 41St millenium. And I ask you if you wish to do a video regarding the special roles of the special units of the Astartes like the apothecary, chaplain, techmarine, ancient standard bearer from their equipment to their training to become one.

[@NetMoverSitan]

You've covered Terminator Armour, this is something specific. | 3:15 - Dangers that are much less discriminating. | 4:05 - Which would lead to the Sons of Ferrus Manus becoming closer than most to them, after their Primarch was lost to them. | 6:06 - So they weren't just for show? | 12:45 - Which would be more likely for the Iron Hands, as they exist now.

[@JulesFaraday22]

Can you discuss the aesthetically pleasing Tartaros terminator pattern as well?

[@JulesFaraday22]

Iron Hands Terminator I entirely disagree with you.

[@alphariusomegon6711]

@@JulesFaraday22 Saturnine is great looking as a stand alone. Tartaros looks like baby Contemptors, and is therefore cool. Cataphractii is gorgeous for brutal reasons, those lightning claws mostly. And Indomitus is the staple of rather a lot of armies. They are all great in my mind.

[@TheWarboss7]

Whenever I think of Cataphractii terminator armour my mind goes straight to that first episode from the Death of Hope 30k video

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

The Varangian Guard Space Wolves thumbnail art, is some of my favorite!!!

[@KingTigerGuy]

Now i just want the one for tartaros terminator armour, and then a full comparison of the advantages, disadvantages and where the compromises were made. I dont care how bad terminators may be on the tabletop, i will always field them cause they are by far the best looking power armoured big hoomans, regardless of type of terminator armour.

[@danielhanson2417]

Terminators in lore: I am slow moving death with impenetrable armor. Terminators on tabletop: oh god oh fuck, is that a stiff breeze?

[@Fen_Wolf]

Ha it took a little over 4 years but we got another terminator armor video still as always you knocked it out of the park Arch like usual

[@jacobduty28]

One of my favorite units for harvesting salt from my enemies on tabletop.

[@Lastburn]

I clicked so fast when I thought this was about Saturnine terminator armor

[@Ulvetann]

*Unstoppable terminator armor goes brrrrr.* Vindicare assassin points at terminators forehead.

[@KaiserAfini]

"My lord Cawl, we found a Warp portal inside Mars, leading to an STC marked with the seal of the Emperor himself. Its more advanced than anything we have ever seen, the template merely calls it the Praetor Suit. Archmagos, what are your orders ?" "Rip and Tear, until it is DONE !" Elsewhere in the Imperium, the Librarians of the Dark Hands knew the time had come for them to perform the duty they were made for.

[@Erikjust]

Question Arch where is the picture of the Mark 1 Terminator Armor, shouldn´t that be in the video also?

[@Sachiel1986]

yeah where is the rogue trader MK1 one?! the one that looks like the red M&Ms

[@Erikjust]

@Iron Hands Terminator Ohh i don´t know they kinda have their own charm to them, would be fun to see them back on the tabletop.

[@Erikjust]

@Iron Hands Terminator wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/6/68/OldTermies.jpg they don´t look like they do, but even so it would be cool, to see them on the tabletop in that lvl of detail.

[@thulsadoon]

@@Sachiel1986 The Saturnine Mk 1 Terminator Armor is now to be referred to as the Angriest M&M.

[@arnantphongsatha7906]

Always loved the ridiculous pauldron on these things.

[@omegon39]

My favorite thing in 40k 💞 great vid as usual

[@TheEldritchGod]

I just want to figure out a way to put a Space Marine in His Normal Armor inside a Mechanicus Imperial Knight. Just imagine defeating an imperial knight, it shutters, falls over, then out walks a space marine.

[@SnakeHoundMachine]

First Terminators! OH boy I can't wait to watch this video on the Saturnine pattern armor!

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

Well done as always young man...

[@TealWolf26]

Silly clarification: is it (cat-a-fract-ee) or (cat-a-fract-ee-eye)? I that 'ii' usually denominates a plurality while 'ius' is used for singular typically in Old Terran Latin.

[@MrFallenone]

Dunno the units is Total War rome refer to themselves as Cataphracts in plural ... but hey thats just game and the devs could have gotten it wrong.

[@TealWolf26]

@@MrFallenone it's possible. I'm not a 2000 yr old centurion so I'm far from an expert witness. 🙂

[@alphariusomegon6711]

I tend to pronounce it (cat-uh-fract-eye) as that seems to roll off the tongue more easily than the other potential pronunciations. That being said, if we would just stick to Saturnine pattern Terminator armour, we wouldn't be so confused on the correct pronunciation. I am of course, biased to that mark of armour as it is both ugly and beautiful and I cannot help but love it more than the rest.

[@Resident_Kriegsman]

I am quite pleased because I fucking LOVE the look of the Cataphractii armor

[@HyperK7]

You call Cataphractii the first tactical dreadnought suits, but then the Saturnite suits lumber down the hall.

[@derrabbit7289]

I love Terminator armor! Particularly Cataphractii with lightning claws!:)

[@lancepharker]

of course a Fist would have a thunder shield, I am only really surprised that they don't carry two. "Brother, it's like a wall, but I can take it with me"

[@gendor5199]

I now wonder if the Powerfist's powerfield works just from punching, like a thunderhammer, or if it can crash things by grabbing as well? I feel like often when I read about them, and a Inisiative of always rolling last means they need to grab onto something, but it makes more sense that they are like thunderhammers that the forcefield is activated by punching, right?

[@gregs1245]

Tactical dreadnaught for when you need to be able to walk through doors

[@jaimedelamotasanchis6205]

What about the saturnine pattern?

[@Morkai_]

Wasnt a mass produced pattern

[@MrFallenone]

There is so few of them they are not worth mentioning beyond the fact that they were the first prototype.

[@acole5975]

Cataphractii when the mechanicus made a slab of ceramite, plasteel and weapons move albeit it slowly.

[@accywacky2699]

"Utterly impenetrable to all but dedicated anti-tank weapons... So lets have the sergeants and squad leaders go into battle without their helmets on. . . "

The original name was the Tactical Fuck-Off armor, but GW did not think that name would sell.

[@HyperLethal0100]

Thank you arch ❤️

[@SgtThiel]

wasn't terminator pre old night? I remember Norm Queen Alix talking about how normal humans would use them and some old units being retrofited for astartes use

[@molarrolar4396]

It's a space marine if you multiply a few times by 4 but a dreadnought divided by 2

[@mangolad7731]

Given the current "new cool" on toppling down statues and hooligans in England going for their defense, one must ask: what reality is this that Orks are banding together to defend the Imperium, whose warriors seems to be uninterested on preserving? Orks were based on hooligans.

[@docartemis2878]

So, I’ve always liked the Tartaros Pattern Terminator Armor, but Cataphractii is also badass.

[@depthcharge126]

Arch, I just had a GW AdMech video game ad before your video, no joke

[@15DEAN1995]

i wonder if theres enough information for you to do a video on the "saturnine" terminator armor (i think that what you called it in the video you did on the death of hope fan animation)

[@MrFallenone]

No it is not. Go away. They are so rare it is worthless to talk about them.

[@alphariusomegon6711]

@@MrFallenone Hush, you go away. Your opinion is so worthless it shouldn't be listened to. That being said, let the man have his own preference. I myself love the Satrunine armour, because of the fact it is a staple from ye olden days of Warhammer, and one of the designs that you only see examples of from that artwork. Rarity is a prime factor in liking many things. This being an example of that.

[@riggergaming3049]

I don't know why, but when I saw the title, I was thinking the weird, goofy looking rouge trader mk 1 Terminator armor.

[@larandrew77]

This has gotten me to pondering.......Adeptus Astartes vs Battletech Elementals....or more specifically, Ultramarines vs Ghost Bears Elementals....just how would that play out?