*UPDATE* : As of the March 2021 edition of White Dwarf Magazine, the Exorcists have been retconned to being an Imperial Fist successor chapter, as opposed to a Grey Knights successor as they were previously stated to be within the story "Headhunted".
@mattfrost13803 жыл бұрын
Oof. Are there any other chapters who are descendent of the knights?
@godconvoy3 жыл бұрын
@@mattfrost1380, it was more rumor than fact that the Exorcists were genetically linked to The Grey Knights. Their in lore heritage is not well known, and not even all the Exorcists are given that knowledge. Perhaps they may or may not answer the Imperial Fists last wall protocol, as they try to remain secretive of their gene seed.
@abelbabel84843 жыл бұрын
@@godconvoy It was explicitly stated as fact in the novel, the bit was even read in the video. Pay more attention, brah.
@jackrogers57123 жыл бұрын
Meh. I don't really believe in the concept of retcons in 40K. More like the Inquisition altered some records to throw people off their trail. 😛 They'll always be Grey Knight successors to me.
@Zakvadr19955 жыл бұрын
Guilliman: “Ok... but... Why? They could be better than you and bolster your forces!” Grey Knight: “People already hate us because we are OP. Throw a Primaris in that mix and we’d break the game. Also, they’re too big for a Dread Knight!”
@Dawings215 жыл бұрын
So op that they got a point discount and still aren't relevant in competitive.
@watayukikimihyra71325 жыл бұрын
@Sean Martin Cowley 5th
@IamBlackToast5 жыл бұрын
“Too big for a Dreadknight” You say that like it’s a bad thing.
@chenli97785 жыл бұрын
Emperor: Didn't I order to replace Dread Knight with Centenarian?
@bentomoswall5 жыл бұрын
@Sean Martin Cowley The fluff edition v. DI
@rocketpod15 жыл бұрын
Because we need to release something next year
@tomstevens76605 жыл бұрын
lol agree,
@jorgdinkel26205 жыл бұрын
@rocketpod1 your vision was nearly correct :-D
@nrais765 жыл бұрын
Well, Grey Knights are in the next Psychic Awakening....
@Solkard5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a pretty straightforward answer. The Primaris were popped out battle ready. That means they would not have any of the special training or rituals needed to serve as Grey Knights.
@margar90215 жыл бұрын
ya but its been like 200 something odd years since the start of the Indomitus Crusade so they could definitely have gotten trained by this point.
@VoiceOfTheEmperor5 жыл бұрын
Plus they kinda just don't need them. They're good as-is.
@Tutorp5 жыл бұрын
Also, Grey Knights are rumoured to have gene-seed derived from the Emperor himself, which is part of the explanation as to why none have taken to Chaos. Are there even any EmPrimaris?
@PezzaHando5 жыл бұрын
Also grey knights are psykers
@SyndicateCrypto5 жыл бұрын
It might have something to do with how Malcador the hero shrouded the moon and then later it came back into reality or something. Maybe they have some special dispensation or something from the Sigilite. Because don't they have alike a box that they are supposed to open if the Emperor actually dies on the golden throne. The custodes gene stock is from the emperor not the grey nights. Grey knights were phased out of time or something by Malcador. Also don't they just recruit from the black ships directly.
@Ghostwolf823 жыл бұрын
Here’s a theory: Because the Grey Knights are kept so secret, Cawl didn’t know they existed, so he didn’t know to create any Primaris Geneseed for them.
@jaredhalbrook50982 жыл бұрын
But the wolves know.
@firesidecampingwithtoddkay85002 жыл бұрын
Maybe he knew of them but didnt consider them important enough to not purge from his memory for more room 😂
@pedropierre95945 ай бұрын
No, its probably that their geneseed is so closely guarded that Cawl could not acquire it
@Dingusmaningus2 ай бұрын
@@jaredhalbrook5098they also know about at least one missing primarch
@jaredhalbrook50982 ай бұрын
@@Dingusmaningus being the reason they are missing is probably why.
@eyeof3ndr3645 жыл бұрын
fifty eight seconds in and I see some Astartes looking like they're about to drop the hottest album of all time
@toxicmongerofthehatefulbro57455 жыл бұрын
You should see what happens during the Feast of Blades. The Black Templars have very sharp wit yet the Crimson Fists just spit poison.
@TaCo0oCaT5 жыл бұрын
you can type 0:53 and people can click at the exact time. But yeah, that album is going to be the best thing since sliced bread
@troopergio5 жыл бұрын
And here is the roster for the space marine heavy metal band known as Linkin Loyalists we have Brother Marcus (Angels Sanguine) on bass Brother Castor (Blood Angels) lead guitar Brother Landry (Blood Angels) on drums Brother Lloyd (Angels of Vengeance) on backup guitar and backup vocals Brother Chester (Dark Angels) Lead vocals Brother Lucifer (Guardians of the Covenant) Turntables and piano Make sure to pick up their new album Loyalist Theory dropping this July to a music shop near you!
@markrtoffeeman5 жыл бұрын
Backstreet Boys for life.
@jiado68935 жыл бұрын
Thirty-five seconds in, and I'm wondering why power armor has a six-pack.
@internetzenmaster89525 жыл бұрын
The title of this video is brought to you by the "Hey, wait a minute..." department of Matt Ward's mind.
@mattward49165 жыл бұрын
I don’t appreciate you reading my mind
@matics4535 жыл бұрын
👏
@Escalusfr5 жыл бұрын
@@mattward4916 agreed, nobody could stay sane after such a feat, juste the blueberry archivist reading the fucking hive mind...
@russellg50225 жыл бұрын
our spiritual liege...
@hectorandem29445 жыл бұрын
The Real Chaos God.
@nerowulfee92105 жыл бұрын
Custodian Guard: "Take primaris now, or else." Grey Knights: "Or what?" Custodian Guard: "Or we excommunicate you?" Grey Knights: "I`d like to see you try."
@ashfield43135 жыл бұрын
I think at the threat of being excommunicated by the Custodes, as if they have that authority of the Grey Knights, would cause a fight right there. I can just imagine the threat being said and behind an eye twitching Voldus opens up a warp portals from casting Gate to Infinity. All 100 remaining Grey Knights file through with a big ass Dreadknight crouching through a portal itself, posting up around Voldus like "I heard you talking shit about our boy here." The Grey Knights vs Banana Bois would ensue. If that's how the Grey Knights go out I couldn't be happier, speaking as Grey Knights player they are going to fade out of the game at some point and I would like an epic last stand of morals on a changing Imperium rather than being worn down to nothing on a battle of attrition.
@John-Stark5 жыл бұрын
@@ashfield4313 Or they die stopping Ahriman from taking Janus's Magnus shard
@CopperStateCustomAdmin5 жыл бұрын
@@ashfield4313 why are the grey knights being phased out? did you hear something? I'm kinda new to all this.
@Bleiser35 жыл бұрын
@@CopperStateCustomAdmin I have no idea why he said that. perhaps he is just a butthurt :D
@siyarg.49005 жыл бұрын
@@ashfield4313 pretty sure the Custodes do have that power, they're literally the Emperor's own (and are *THE* governing bodies of Terra as the Emperor's stewards but they dont do that job because 'Emperor is dying' depression and what not) nobody fucks with the Banana Boys and gets to walk away
@viewernewest5 жыл бұрын
The Grey Knights existence is a closely guarded secret. Blood Ravens after Kronus and Kauruva, hold our relics.
@khartog015 жыл бұрын
@Harkon Takala Gabe: "Thanks for the Primaris upgrades Cawl." Cawl: "What? I didn't give those to you!" Gabe: "Whoops, gotta go!"
@mattd69315 жыл бұрын
@@khartog01 And... is that the Emperor's golden throne you're sitting on? Gabe: Er, we found it...
@nrais765 жыл бұрын
@@khartog01 Officially, though, if I recall, Blood Ravens found Primaris highly suspicious, and have integrated them (at Custodes spear-point) but keep them out of all the secret club meetings, kinda like the Dark Angels.
@khartog015 жыл бұрын
They were suspicious but they also saw it as an opportunity to to further research who their Primarch is.
@FrstSpctr885 жыл бұрын
@@mattd6931 You forgot "perfect copy of the Golden Throne with no webway project modifications" and Gabe holding the STC to Golden Throne 0.1, from which the Emperor began the Webway project.
@abmong5 жыл бұрын
The Grey Knights have no Primaris because GW haven't got around to doing their models yet...
@The_Desert_Tiger5 жыл бұрын
I agree with this since they would need to make a cooler upgraded version of the GK's armour for primaris marines
@siyarg.49005 жыл бұрын
*REEEE IRL EXPLANATION*
@humphrey49765 жыл бұрын
I can’t work out if that’s heretical or not
@blingsing53835 жыл бұрын
@@humphrey4976 if there is doubt its heresy
@Drestlin5 жыл бұрын
truth.
@rudesthazard57695 жыл бұрын
I, personally, think there's something up with the Primaris Marines. The biggest redflag that they are bad news? The Lamenters Chapter got some.
@PainHarbinger5 жыл бұрын
And you know, Blood Angels ones literally ripping traitor Astartes in two with their bare hands. 0.0001% chance of deviation from expected parameters my arse.
@billgonnabillbillbill24155 жыл бұрын
Shit is going to go down quickly, if what u say is true.
@SarenSoran5 жыл бұрын
The poor Lamenter-Primaris bois, they are gonna learn what true bad luck means They should be equipped only with Plasma-Weapons, all of them :D
@casperchristensen83545 жыл бұрын
The techies on Mars just got a genebank of every chapter. Doesnt sound like chapter."personality" was given much consideration.
@mr420quickscops25 жыл бұрын
That confirms they’re bad news, nothing good ever happens to the Lambs
@spaghettimkay57955 жыл бұрын
Because apparently primaris marines are scared to use a melee weapon bigger than a power sword.
@elderfenris.75375 жыл бұрын
Now they can use power hammers
@Nianfur5 жыл бұрын
@@elderfenris.7537 Only in the bedroom, with other "battle brothers".
@PlaceHolderMechanic4 жыл бұрын
@@Nianfur oh no... no no no... dear emperor no....
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r4364 жыл бұрын
Does a power axe count?
@ZeroNumerous5 жыл бұрын
It seems more likely to me that Guilliman simply did not know the Grey Knights existed. Guilliman was only active for 100 years between 021.M31 - the Second Founding - to 121.M31 - Guilliman's entombment in statis. Malcador set up and established the Grey Knights in secret before the Heresy, hid Titan in the Warp during the Heresy, and the Grey Knights only reappeared during the Second Founding. In that time there is little evidence to point to Guilliman being told any, never mind all, of the Inquisition's secrets. Especially while he was busy preventing the Imperium from falling apart, and fighting the Great Scouring. I find it much more likely that Guilliman not knowing of the Grey Knights, and thus not telling Cawl to prepare Primaris for that chapter, as an explanation as to why there were no Primaris reinforcements for the Grey Knights. After all, the Grey Knights are willing to kill pious and loyal sisters of battle simply for an edge in battle against demons. It makes little sense for them to refuse help if it truly would assist their holy mission. Though, the actual reason is likely that Primaris Grey Knights would mean Primaris Terminators, and GW wants to reveal that later.
@robertnelson95995 жыл бұрын
I am surprised we have not seen primaris terminators or techmarines.
@somerandomguyfromthebeyond18215 жыл бұрын
I thought the Gravis armor was the Primaris equivalent to Terminator armor?
@matthuckabey0075 жыл бұрын
Very good observation...
@Bleiser35 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by saying "After all, the Grey Knights are willing to kill pious and loyal sisters of battle simply for an edge in battle against demons." ? Where can I find that?
@natasreficul86685 жыл бұрын
@@Bleiser3 A detachment of Sisters killed by Grey Knights, their bodies sliced open and their blood applied to the Grey Knights' armor, so the Grey Knights can be immune to the Bloodtide's effects (though some of the Sisters were immune with faith alone, make of that what you will). The Bloodtide was retconned in the most recent Grey Knights Codex to instead go down holding the line long enough for their Grey Knight allies to finish off the Daemons. Still losing, but at least this time they die with dignity. (1d4chan.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle)
@youngarchaeotech1895 жыл бұрын
Because Matt ward doesn’t deserve crescent rolls.
@mattward49165 жыл бұрын
😥
@youngarchaeotech1895 жыл бұрын
Matt Ward there’s no crying in crescent roles- I mean WarHammer.
@PvtMartin785 жыл бұрын
The answer is that GW hasn't made sculpts yet.
@stephenlopez41725 жыл бұрын
Facts right here
@Theunislb5 жыл бұрын
Listen for this is the truth
@e2rqey3 жыл бұрын
Also I'd imagine The Imperium realizes that it's probably a good idea to keep a gene seed based on the emporer's DNA as far away from the Tyranid as possible
@charlesman87225 жыл бұрын
Gillamun: Sons of titan Ive come to give yo- Grey Knights: *charging psy weapons with malicious intent*
@adaeptzulander29285 жыл бұрын
7:30 Sounds like the novelist didn't understand the lore and just picked the coolest sounding chapter.
@eeeh96935 жыл бұрын
Adaept Zulander lmao
@ZhysaytheBandit5 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest Grey Knights are loyalist Thousand Sons, and these are actually just ultra smurfs that were told they are from GK.
@sethbudziszewski20895 жыл бұрын
yeah pretty garbage piece of lore and a sub par story imo. botched lore right there.
@DismemberTheAlamo5 жыл бұрын
Its the last reason, im still waiting for the 40k "order 66" and the start of the 2nd heresy.
@Astorath_the_Grim5 жыл бұрын
:'(
@rhaivaen5 жыл бұрын
That would be plagiarism, but fitting. I'm playing XI'TH legion anyway, so no Primaris for me.
@zachzent82874 жыл бұрын
Execute order 66,000
@Mr.Doodlebob4 жыл бұрын
@@zachzent8287 "execute order 66" "Lawyers are saying we can't use that line chapter master" "Execute order 66,000, how's that?" "They say it's ok" "Cool cool"
@ruthlessasmr66624 жыл бұрын
Im convinced that they're actually going to stop something like that.
@GoldHaartGaming5 жыл бұрын
Inspiring, thought-provoking and amazing work by yourself and Stephanie Swan Quills. It is always nice to watch your videos as they always give us some fresh looks into different theories and get you thinking about them. Your (what if) series is Awesome. Keep up this Inspiring, thought-provoking and amazing work and I will continue to follow and enjoy your content. Thank you both. Respect and Friendship GoldenLion Dan
@jazeroth3225 жыл бұрын
for me this is easily the best theory channel for 40k.
@ZKtheMAN5 жыл бұрын
_Adeptus Notifcatus, _*_REPRESENT._* Let's be real, the Grey Knights don't have Primaris because they need to nerf Matt Ward somehow.
@szadekofnihon5 жыл бұрын
If the primaris marines are incorruptible , why the exorcist have them? they need to pass throught a possesion . With that in mind thats means they are of course corruptible in some way. And the second question I have is... ok, we asume that they refuse to recruit those new primaris , but they can be upgraded and "primarisized" like calgar did .
@maukka15455 жыл бұрын
Because 8th edition lore is absolute garbage
@indigodragon785 жыл бұрын
Because I think there's a 50% survival rate unless you're a main character.
@youtubevoice10505 жыл бұрын
Maybe to them, possession is like a cold that can be overcome without too much trouble?
@ashfield43135 жыл бұрын
@@indigodragon78 39% there's a 61% chance of failure for Calgar who was directly operated on by Belisarius Cawl himself. However, Primaris Grey Knights would be undoubtedly the strongest Astartes to exist, rivaling that of the Custodes probably 1:1 at that point. However, since there are roughly 100 left, assuming that we took a direct ratio there would be 39 Grey Knights left. We'll assume that Grand Master Voldus, Castellan Crowe, and Brother Captain Stern survive as they're the important named characters. That leaves 36 other Grey Knights. It would make them the smallest, most elite fighting force in the Imperium. That's not a bad thing though.
@Zretgul_timerunner5 жыл бұрын
@@ashfield4313 Ehm theres more then 100 grey knights though.
@brigandboy14255 жыл бұрын
Because primaris marines are actually an Alpha Legion sleeper project, and though the Grey Knights know this, they also know that no one will believe them over Girly-man.
@requited25685 жыл бұрын
Yup, we have just seen the first Chaos Primaris enter the fray. Havoks and terminators that match the size of the primaris are now on the field. Girly man and Cowed have been working with heretics and Xenos and only Alpha Legion could have possibly convinced Loyal Space Marines to let Girlyman insert his corrupted DNA into them. All this because Girlyman thought he needed a convoluted reason to make the leg armour not compress their legs.
@css17435 жыл бұрын
Best answer so far! 😂
@vladdrakul78515 жыл бұрын
Brilliant That is what I have been saying for a while now. Indeed I believe the return of Gulliman is part of a whole new era. Gulliman is resurrected thanks to the ELDAR and my favorite Alphas have always been the 'Grey Knights of sabotage, strategy and plausible deniability' while Gulliman is the opposite, straight forwards and open. Indeed I have stated the Ultras are the 'First Foundation and the Alphas the 2nd in terms of the Asimov trilogy, the Alphas must operate EVERYWHERE SECRETLY, The Ultras OPENLY in the Imperium, the the G.K. the SPECIALIST RESERVE SECRETLY. The dead Emperor needs to DIE, This is where this is all leading!
@johnduffy19984 жыл бұрын
The information is delivered to guilliman by omegon. Whether or not you trust the primaris depends on how far you trust omegon
@louisarius96724 жыл бұрын
@@vladdrakul7851 Riiiiiiight
@desupocalypse5 жыл бұрын
There wouldn't be enough SoB blood in the galaxy to cover them all.
@Matt-md5yt5 жыл бұрын
arn't they "perfect" though? also don't give Matt Ward ideas. he loves the Ultra Marines. also can you do some details on the Primaris Imperial fist successor chapter? they don't sound like Sons of Dorn to me
@mattward49165 жыл бұрын
Too late fellow Matt
@Zretgul_timerunner5 жыл бұрын
They are perfect any attempt at primarify marines of Grey knights whould be near impossible to do in an doable amount of time.
@PitFriend15 жыл бұрын
I’m still more confused why the Mechanicus hasn’t totally flipped out and declared all the Primaris hereteks for using new equipment not derived from sacred STCs.
@danishsyed10685 жыл бұрын
Pit Friend because Cawl got a do whatever you warrant from Big E and Papa Smuf you don’t argue with that unless you want the the brand of hectic on your ass
@CAP1984625 жыл бұрын
“The Codex Astartes does not endorse this action,” *puts £1 in jar labelled “meme tax”*
@salperagine8314 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute , all 20 legions ? Including the 2 missing legions ? I can see where this may possibly go . Grey Knights , just a smoke screen .
@Raptorrat5 жыл бұрын
From what I know about Cawl, with him wanting to use traitor gene-seed. He would love to get his hands on some grey knight gene-seed, to fiddle about with.
@christiantitular18594 жыл бұрын
I find your theories in regards of the Grey Knights very convincing and almost closely to the truth. Thank you for the EFFORT. Happy 2021
@knightzix_015 жыл бұрын
Because they dont answer to Guileman that much i think i understand
@laencleardale5 жыл бұрын
Yep. All the chapters report to Guilleman except Grey Knights. He doesn't want that power in the Inquisition's hands.
@gigamesh7805 жыл бұрын
Kaldor Draigo is already Primaris enough...he can already eat a sun, and maybe...spit it out if you ask nicely! (9_9)
@KadRSP5 жыл бұрын
Supposedly. I'm still waiting for the indigestion to hit him.
@Mr.Doodlebob4 жыл бұрын
@@KadRSP kaldor let's out a tiny toot and scorches half a planet 😂
@willrogers37935 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it’s because they’re still clinging to the delusion that they’re still the super-duperest Space Marines, and letting the new big bois join would force them to admit that they’re just exceptionally derpy, not super-duper.
@timoylumontad39205 жыл бұрын
Does that make them heretics?
@mattward49165 жыл бұрын
Timoy Lumontad no
@some_shitposting_idiot30235 жыл бұрын
It's funny cause considering the custodes exist they should have already accepted they aren't perfect
@timoylumontad39205 жыл бұрын
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Shots fired!
@timoylumontad39205 жыл бұрын
@@mattward4916 Hi Mr. Spiritual Liege.
@MetalKing14175 жыл бұрын
Another possibly- the Grey Knights have specialist equipment, including a model of power armor that may not have an equivalent in primaris form ready for use.
@r.m.renfield45415 жыл бұрын
I thought after the events of Watchers of the Throne the Imperium gave up trying to keep daemons secret because it would mean killing everyone on Terra who saw the Khornate invasion. Well, the Grey Knights were there with Guilliman, the Custodes and Sisters of Silence so maybe they're not so secret now after all.
@normalguy420695 жыл бұрын
Grey Knights can't get Primaris because it would make them playable
@pepsico68725 жыл бұрын
Love how the FBI has told us this
@jamesbenedict75165 жыл бұрын
@@pepsico6872 even the secretive grey knights cannot escape the eyes of the FBI
@danielc-s80565 жыл бұрын
Because Caul wasn't told they existed?
@PezzaHando5 жыл бұрын
He's been around for 10000 years and had a level of access that few others in the empire would ever have I'm sure he put it together
@KadRSP5 жыл бұрын
@@PezzaHando Maybe, but I don't think so. The Grey Knights are directly under the control of the Inquisition, and we know what Inquisitors like to do if someone learns something they shouldn't.
@PezzaHando5 жыл бұрын
@@KadRSP He also kept the production of an army of Primaris marines secret for ten thousand years, so a bit of knowledge about grey knights doesn't mean the inquisition know he knows
@nrais765 жыл бұрын
@@KadRSP Well, no. Its more like certain Ordo Malleus inquisitors work with them, and certain Grey Knights work with the Ordo Malleus. Kind of like the Deathwatch are the Ordo Xenos-ish and the Adepta Sororitas are the Ordo Hereticus-ish. That's my impression from current fluff. And its all Malcador's doing.
@professorsponge15545 жыл бұрын
I think Cawl just wasn't permitted to handle something as precious as the emerpror's geneseed. he had enough trust placed in him when he was given enough geneseed to create entire legions worth of spess marines. Imagine if he went full flabius bile with that kind of trinket in his clutches.
@uglyweirdo13895 жыл бұрын
Cawl: It isn't AI. Promise. Cawl Inferior: What? Yes I am. Cawl: Shudduuuuup. "IF"
@The_Desert_Tiger5 жыл бұрын
They could play it off that he has proven himself in making the primaris and given access to the emperors to make a GK primaris.
@indigodragon785 жыл бұрын
"Because Games Workshop can only make so many new models at a time."
@MrMysticphantom5 жыл бұрын
They would probably rather have an aspirant from the start and train/test it until it can become a primaris...rather than accept an outsider. the Primaris available have not gone through the selection, testing, cleansing, conditioning, training that even the most basic potential aspirants of the GK do. So probably they'll wait until they can MAKE primaris from little boys
@arturocardona1405 жыл бұрын
Adil Zia why are ‘little boys’ always your answer? They were made to reinforce badly depleted groups and not under normal circumstances where time and comfort are in abundance. You’ll have all the kids it takes to make you happy when we aren’t losing a war.
@MrMysticphantom5 жыл бұрын
@@arturocardona140 what a useless resource type 👿
@Unnatural095 жыл бұрын
I feel like the primaris marine gene seed will be "plot armour" stolen. So games workshop can sell primaris chaos marines.
@Andrew-yl7lm4 жыл бұрын
Chaos just have true scale chaos Marines now. They're not replaced, just remodelled.
@REA9875 жыл бұрын
Matt Ward has already made Grey Knighes OP as Warp, so not even GW dared to extend it further.
@TearDownGenesis5 жыл бұрын
Its because the Primaris are Heresy. Or they can't fit into the Knight's Armor.
@ChiefLibrarianLothric5 жыл бұрын
Both my brother, both
@oscarliljeby81825 жыл бұрын
I love how EVERY chapter says that they have even harsher and thougher recruitment trials than any other! Space-marine lore really are just word diarrhea. Nothing said on the subject seem to matter, or be consistent.
@blkbrdmntrvimes64385 жыл бұрын
Well only one other chapter forces aspirants to undergo demonic possession before being welcomed into the ranks..... Exorcists could be a spin off from the grey nights for similar tactics and doctrine.
@jamesm7834 жыл бұрын
I saw a video a while back. Long story short? one of their first trials involves prospective grey knights walking across a frozen moon, wearing nothing but some shitty robes and a psychic-sensitive collar that'll blow their heads off if they use their powers. to make things worse, there's pools of psychochemical mist that cause halucinations. they're made to trudge back and forth, and if they lose control of their powers for even a split second, boom goes their head. there's a few other trials and things I can't remember, but at the end of it, they get mindscrubbed. all their previous memories, gone. nothing but a blank slate for the chapter to work with. to become a grey knight is basically to go through hell and then die.
@ARIES53425 жыл бұрын
What is going to happen when the Primaris Marines, who have now infiltrated the other chapters, realize they don't need these lesser soldiers? Kurt Russell time? Perhaps the Tech Priests have kept the Grey Knights existence a secret, as a safeguard against rogue Primaris Marines? Adam
@TravisSwan4 жыл бұрын
All grey knights must be trained from recruit to a full battle brother. The Magos forgot to give them those gene seed for building the primaris grey knights.
@darkblood6265 жыл бұрын
They don’t need them. The grey knights are the original super perfect snowflake marines.
@mattward49165 жыл бұрын
I’m Matt Ward and I find this offensive
@AnonymousAnonposter5 жыл бұрын
Op is right, they are Mary Sues already
@Kainlarsen5 жыл бұрын
@@AnonymousAnonposter Mary Sues don't have to pass stringent trials that exceed even Astartes'. They're hardly given all that cool shit for free, are they? GKs may be considered OP, but Mary Sues they aren't.
@psychedashell5 жыл бұрын
@@Kainlarsen Mary Sues do pass those tests, they just don't find them challenging because they don't find anything challenging.
@Kainlarsen5 жыл бұрын
@@psychedashell I'd put that down to poor conveyance of the tests in literature, but the fact still stands, they do go through tougher tests than regular astartes. I think you're just looking to bitch about something Matt Ward likes.
@Dawings215 жыл бұрын
Probably because GW plan releases years in advance and GK are being held back for a Inquisition, Sisters and Admech update. Chaos have likely taken up a lot of their manufacturing capacity for a while.
@Chase14videos5 жыл бұрын
Question: Will FAQ 3 be the third in a row to nerf Grey Knights
@derrickbonsell5 жыл бұрын
GeeDubs is probably still working on them and will probably release them when they need to stir up excitement again. Hopefully the lore is "we've integrated your upgrades into our recruitment process" and not "oh hey, free troops."
@coraxcox92425 жыл бұрын
I just want the flesh tearers to report their own primerius in “accidents “ like the catachans and commissars 😉 “ you seem to be sending us faulty new guys “
@elsaltyboi30815 жыл бұрын
Does anyone knows what is the background music ?
@Lionheart405295 жыл бұрын
They dont have primaris because GW havent made grey knight primaris yet. That's about the real reason
@KordellCunningham2 жыл бұрын
I was genuinely surprised that the Grey Knights don't have Primaris support when I saw this video. With how secretive they are and the source of their gene-seed, it makes sense why they were excluded, as they didn't need some at the time. Since Primaris Marines haven't been tested on how resilient they are against the ruinous powers, it would make a good idea for a new novel, as long a great writer knows the Warhammer 40K lore well enough to make it work.
@matthewbrune54905 жыл бұрын
Be honest with you, prolly won’t get Primaris Grey Knights until Emps rises from the throne, until then, we’ll have to depend on Imperium Ascendant to show us how Primaris-Grey Knights will be. Hell, just them going by Silver Knights makes more sense
@NetMoverSitan5 жыл бұрын
0:34 - (monotone) All Hail Big Papa Ultrasmurf. | There's also a process to upgrade existing Space Marines into Primaris Marines, the first being Marneus Calgar, the Chapter Master of the Ultrasmurfs. | 3:15 - Tainted by the 5th Chaos God, Matt Ward...so, more intense than the Deathwatch?...ah, like after Angron caused some damage on Armageddon before Ghazghul Mag Uruk Thraka turned up on Wuldkilla. | 9:40 - Certainly with the Sons of the Lion. (e.g. 40K Bane)
@Aliexster5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to put my vote for 'The Grey Knights are the most elitist tools in the 40K setting' for 200 Remi.
@Lightman03595 жыл бұрын
It may have something for the Prims being too husky for Mk [REDACTED] Aegis Armor. That being said, with the new Primping process that Manny Cal-Gon, prince of Smurfs went through, new Grey Knights may start receiving Cawl's Bawls during recruitment [maybe as a reward for the highest scoring/most psychic recruit in each batch] receiving damaged Aegis suits repaired with blessed parts of Gravis Armor [Mk 11 A-Greg-is armor].
@nidhoggvomwalde22805 жыл бұрын
Primaris what? Oh these models I glued old sm helmets to, to get real space marines in size...
@duecepapoose17245 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea. Your my introduction to this universe and I’m hooked...this is my 15th 40k video today
@dawall38595 жыл бұрын
There's another possibility the gray Knights could all be primaris Marines already. The program had to begin somewhere. And it was begun a long time ago. The emperor could have made more powerful Marines he did create the custodies and the thunder warriors. So why not have the knowledge technology and forethought to create more powerful Space Marines. Maybe he had the knowledge on hand and for some reason decided not to do it. But somebody close to him dusted it off and got it going again. And then Papa Smurf found out about it and thought hey look more powerful soldiers I can use those. Someone founded the gray Knights as a reaction it was somebody close to the Emperor who had access to all of the secret special genetics programs to create the primark's. This old wrinkled psyker would have unlocked that and started work on something a little more robust for his own special forces units. Units that would later become known as the Grey Knights.
@robweb29285 жыл бұрын
That's retarded
@thedevilsadvocate7883 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that they just get around to it because they are already so scarce and hard to find that for a primaris and a grey knight to meet would be like a needle finding another needle in five haystack over '-' But I do not think the Grey Knights would be discriminating against the Primaris; any truly incorruptible astartes serving the emperor with the potential to fight demons is a potential recruit.
@ChrisWhitDnd5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a theory on Tau psykers
@magicalmagicmagician52235 жыл бұрын
The only psyker the tau have is farsight whose psychic powers are minuscule that even farsight himself barely know that he's a psyker
@lukasperuzovic14295 жыл бұрын
I think an average Human of 019.M3 (2019 A.D.) has more psyker potential that a whole colony of Tau, even the Farsight Enclave.
@dark7element5 жыл бұрын
The way I see it it is the changes made by Cawl that made Primaris marines resistant to chaos corruption, also make them unsuitable for induction into the Grey Knights. Unlike garden-variety librarians, Grey Knights use sorcery in the same manner as the Thousand Sons or the like (which is one of the biggest reasons they have to be kept so super-secret). It makes sense that the "genetic stability" of the Primaris also makes them less suited to wield the power of the immaterium to its full potential.
@Demolitiondude5 жыл бұрын
I've felt that the grey knights were a test run or are the psyker primarus.
@jeffersonian0005 жыл бұрын
Based on the novel The Emperor’s Gift, we see the actual process a Grey Knight recruit goes through after being selected. The process described is not unlike the process we saw the Raven Guard Raptors went through during the Heresy, which is the same process we are shown for Primaris. It could that the Grey Knights are already Primaris. Or not. Your last point though is flawed. If Cawl did produce Grey Knight Primaris, they would exist regardless of Grey Knight accepting them. Could very well be that Cawl was simply unaware of the Grey Knights’ existence until after Grand Master Voldus made him aware.
@internetzenmaster89525 жыл бұрын
To which Cawl immediate response was: "So can I have some of your geneseed to make Primaris Grey Knights?" Voldus [channels Dorn for a moment]: *_"No."_*
@40KTheories5 жыл бұрын
While it is certainly possible that Cawl could very well have created them, the Grey Knights could still have flat out refused to take them (making them one of the 6% of chapters who do not have Primaris for one reason or another in the process, especially due to the unique position of authority the chapter itself holds) so any Primaris created from their genetic template could as a result been simply "gifted" to another chapter with a shared genetic lineage (i.e: The Exorcists)
@Mahbu5 жыл бұрын
Also, I imagine that eventually we'll see Primaris Grey Knights. Just give it time.
@Shadowholocaust5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Grey Knights are aware of the gene seed used within the new breed, and knowing they contain stock from traitor prime archs the Grey Knights refuse to incorporate them
@Le-cp9tr5 жыл бұрын
Or GW doesn’t want to design new models of a group already divisive in the fandom. Derp.
@griffin56535 жыл бұрын
Really? One word, Ultramarines.
@journeyinto40k625 жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY5 жыл бұрын
oh, I'm sure Primaris Grey Knights are going to happen eventually.
@Lightman03595 жыл бұрын
Grey knights all wear Aegis armor, all either Terminator or Artificer make. Primaris can't fit into relic power armor and they probably can't make Aegis Pattern Mk X armor. While it does nothing tabletop in 8th, the wards on Aegis armor help them focus their powers and resist warp based energy, its like Magneto's helm or Juggernaut's armor
@truckerallikatuk5 жыл бұрын
You still missed the option of "Primaris are heresy"
@flakzuludeusex23652 жыл бұрын
If that ever happens to one primaries is selected and pass the things that are needed to be a Gray knight that will be a small pool and a rare one at that, plus as an added bonus they will make the Dark powers tremble of how powerful and more durable and less susceptible to mutations a primaries can be that will be an overkill in the 40k universe almost close to a primearc or demi-god if that will happen.
@jintarokensei33085 жыл бұрын
Because they know of the incoming wave of Primaris corruption.
@rawwset5 жыл бұрын
I think is a mix of thier secrecy, because why would cawl even know they exist. And they don't trust the new primaris stock yet.
@domvasta5 жыл бұрын
Did Guilleman even know about the Grey Knights?
@MiddleAgedGuy735 жыл бұрын
Awesome question
@Xer0sama5 жыл бұрын
I mean, one of them was a part of the team that helped him get out of his chair, so he probably got filled in at some point.
@ashfield43135 жыл бұрын
The Primaris project had been going on for hundreds of years, so I think that R. Girlyman and Cawl *didn't* know about the Grey Knights at one point. By the time that R.G knew about it there wouldn't be enough time for new Primaris aspirants with enough pysker ability to emerge (due to the 99% non-variation trait of the Primaris genes) to meet the GK standards. I still do not believe that Cawl knows anything about the Grey Knights and if he does it must be 2nd hand accounts in the best case - but more realistically he's only heard rumors through his extensive connections.
@Wimpiethe35 жыл бұрын
Because they fight chaos, they don't incorporate it. Yes, i'm running on my own prediction here.
@MadeInChina6375 жыл бұрын
What if the grey knights are all thousand sons? Would make sense as to why they didn't get any primaris.
@The_Desert_Tiger5 жыл бұрын
Cawl had all 20 primach gene-seeds so it could make them from the thousand sons gene-seed he had on hand.
@truemind10185 жыл бұрын
i could see it just being a case of them not getting to it yet. as it would take longer to get a primaris force for the grey knights, i say that its just a case of all new grey knights get the primaris treatment asp too buff up there forces overtime with particularly good/heroic knights getting the primaris upgrade.
@joshwongwai35325 жыл бұрын
Bro have you considered doing audio books for warhammer series? You have the voice and dialogue for it!
@joekws5 жыл бұрын
I can see them possibly getting primaris but they wouldn't be new battle brothers, instead I would suppose that they would upgrade existing grey knights like calgar got the primaris treatment. However grey knight troops don't have the same load outs as regular marines so either they released a new kit for grey knight primaris, which is highly unlikely or your not gonna see them any time soon. Not until the 2nd wave of primaris maybe whenever that comes.
@Zergboy25 жыл бұрын
The grey knights are loyalist thousand sons and belisarius cawl "doesn't use" traitor stock
@martinjoedickeint5 жыл бұрын
En par with Luetin09, as usual. Deep Lore, please never ever stop!
@PartOfTheGame5 жыл бұрын
>sees title Because every Adeptus Astartes is lesser than my Grey Knight's purity.
@Astorath_the_Grim5 жыл бұрын
How did Cawl out do your work in a few thousand years? I smell warp fuckery.
@Erebdai5 жыл бұрын
Another chapter lacking primaris marines is the bloodravens. Until Belasarious Cawl tests them and finds out they carry Magnus' gene seed. Lucky for the Bloodravens Cawl has plenty of Magnus' geneseed in stock.
@40KTheories5 жыл бұрын
The Blood Ravens do have Primaris marines. It's shown in the 8th edition Space Marine codex.
@mr.berardine16945 жыл бұрын
I can't stand Primaris Marines. They are Space Marine, Space Marines. It's silly. That effect could have been better spent elsewhere.
@Mr.Doodlebob4 жыл бұрын
Can we get mechanicus mechanicus? With a side of orky ork?"
@RecklessFables4 жыл бұрын
Primaris Sister Sisters!
@DarkinPunk5 жыл бұрын
It's possible that Guilliman is trying to subtly reduce the unchecked power of the Inquisition by denying them the upgrade.
@luthorcorp05 жыл бұрын
Video was 11:35 too long. “Because no Primaris Marines have completed the Grey Knight Trials.” Roll credits.
@KallahMari5 жыл бұрын
LOVE the new intro!
@WodenIstWotan5 жыл бұрын
Because the Grey Knights are overpowered enough 😂
@kingjonstarkgeryan85735 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you are not talking about tabletop
@AnonymousAnonposter5 жыл бұрын
Lore wise they are badass, tabletop they are garbage... But kinda good on kill teams
@kingjonstarkgeryan85735 жыл бұрын
@@AnonymousAnonposter Good to know maybe if I ever finish my Space Wolf army ( just bought a new model and predator tank while 80% of my miniatures are unpainted and unassembled) maybe I will pick up some Grey Knights for Kill team.
@Maeata5 жыл бұрын
I think they dont have any because 1: they are an all psyker chapter, 2: the grey knight chapters tenichally isn't suppose to exist. It's also cool to see that the exorcist come from the grey knight, in the SM codex I think they are still listed as unknown for their parent chapter
@hanng12425 жыл бұрын
tl;dw but my answer is that Primaris marines are heretical.
@TDBoedy4 жыл бұрын
I think the secrecy along with training and also hardware requirements for the aegis armor and all that. I do however think that after some time rather than add aspirants they will cross the rubicon before ever taking up fresh stock. Who will it be? I have no idea.
@ninjabreadman81665 жыл бұрын
*Because you cannot improve upon perfection!* Just kidding but could you imagine 🤣
@Bran_Redmaw4 жыл бұрын
It's because GW aren't ready to make a complete range refresh yet and they would have to make a primaris terminator analogue. They're in the process of making regular primaris range slowly which can be used in many different armies so will make them a shit ton of money.
@TB-ps6wc5 жыл бұрын
Cause GW doesn't want them to be good. Lol
@puttster35 жыл бұрын
Hey 40k Theories, is it possible that, the existence of loyalists from the traitor legions, had anything to do with the Codex decree. Its very existence would provide an out so these loyal men could continue to serve the Imperium, and escape scrutiny.
@darthrevan7045 жыл бұрын
primaris marines are the best marines
@matthuckabey0075 жыл бұрын
My Emperor, you have such an all encompassing grasp of the 40K universe it boggles the mind. Thank you for clarifying things in my process of creating a legion. Without your insights, things would be a mess. Aberration is abomination....